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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 583
Date: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 8:35 AM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Tach to Speed chart
From: abatt10347_at_dml_aol.com

2. Re: Cam removal for performance grind...
From: srubano_at_dml_optonline.com

3. Re: Cooling problems
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

4. Re: DMC Prices
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>

5. Anybody from Connecticut planning to attend the open-house?
From: "Jeff" <Gr8old1_at_dml_aol.com>

6. hyperactive antenna
From: gus_at_dml_austin.rr.com

7. RE: Cam removal for performance grind...
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>

8. Re: Cooling problems
From: gus_at_dml_austin.rr.com

9. Re: Cooling problems
From: "Ryan Foster" <westiething_at_dml_hotmail.com>

10. Latest DeLorean CLub of Oregon newsletter posted
From: knut.s.grimsrud_at_dml_intel.com

11. Re: Re: Dead Market?
From: fjk143_at_dml_aol.com

12. Re: DMC Prices
From: "David Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

13. Re: Tach to Speed chart
From: theshovel1224_at_dml_yahoo.com

14. Re: Cooling problems
From: theshovel1224_at_dml_yahoo.com

15. DeLorean Meet
From: "marvin" <marv_at_dml_printeddrinkware.com>

16. 4th speed fan switch
From: "Ryan Foster" <westiething_at_dml_hotmail.com>

17. Re: rain leak
From: "Joseph Molino" <foxmul_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>

18. Re: Cooling problems
From: "Joseph Molino" <foxmul_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>

19. Re: 4th speed fan switch
From: "Joseph Molino" <foxmul_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>

20. Re: Cam removal for performance grind...
From: srubano_at_dml_optonline.com

21. Re: Cooling problems
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com

22. Re: Reluctant downshift.
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com

23. Re: Cam removal for performance grind...
From: "B Benson" <delornut_at_dml_peoplepc.com>

24. Re: 4th speed fan switch
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com

25. Re: Cooling problems
From: sprins_at_dml_businessnet.net





Message: 1
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 11:31:33 EDT
From: abatt10347_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Tach to Speed chart

Sean,
Check out the Resources section on the DML main page. There is a chart for 
tach to mph.
Looking forward to Memphis!
Bruce Battles
Vin # 06569


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:33:51 -0000
From: srubano_at_dml_optonline.com
Subject: Re: Cam removal for performance grind...

The Delorean is a Dual cam. Removing the cams will require the 
removal of the following items: The rocker arms, cylinder heads 
(since you have the remove the head bolts to remove the rocker arm 
assembly), timing chain cam sprocket, air intake assembly and other 
small misc. things. You will then have to re-set all the timing's on 
the timing chains unless you have a special tool that will hold the 
chain in place while you remove the head (mark the sprocket and the 
chain with a straight line so you know how to line them up). Look in 
the workshop manual and you will see a picture of the tool. You will 
also need a tourqe wrench and a special degree dial tool (you can 
also use a protractor) to set the tourqe for the head bolts. Again 
you can see a picture of the tool in the work shop manual.

When removing the heads from the block...BE VERY careful. The 
DeLorean engine is a "wet bank" engine meaning that there are cast 
iron sleeves in the block for the pistons. They are just sitting in 
there and are held into place by the force of the heads. There is a 
small paper ring gasket that is under them (mating surface of the 
sleeve that goes to the block) and they come in different thickness. 
If you just pull the heads off you may risk taking one of the sleeves 
out along with it and that would be BAD! You'll then have to remove 
all of the sleeves from that bank and replace the seals under the 
sleeves. Those paper seals will tear if the sleeves come out. It 
separates the oil from the coolant in the block. The reason why you 
would have to replace all the sleeve seals in the one bank if only 
one came out is because you won't know what thickness the original 
seal was (they are also used as shims) and if you just replace one 
then it may either be thicker (causing the sleeve to sit higher than 
the other two) or thinner (causing the sleeve to sit lower than the 
other two). Either way will cause the new head gasket not to seat 
properly. Rock the head back and forth gently until it breaks free 
from the block. Once it feels free carefully lift up on it while 
watching to see if any of the sleeves are sticking to the head / head 
gasket. Usually the head gasket will stick to the block...which will 
be a good thing. I have rebuilt my engine in my Delorean so I know 
every inner working part in it. It is not to difficult but it takes 
patience and a lot of care.

If you need further assistance or have any questions email me.

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Aaron King" <floodle_at_dml_s...> wrote:
> I am going to get the cams in my engine a performance grind, and I 
was 
> wondering if removing them (and reinstalling them) is too difficult 
for a 
> beginning to intermediate mechanic.  If not, has anyone done this 
before?  
> Any hints, tips, or tricks?  My experience has mostly been in fuel 
system 
> fixes, and I haven't really touched the block yet.  Also, I have 
seen 
> differing statistics regarding whether the DeLorean is a dual cam 
(per 
> cylinder bank) or single cam engine.  Could someone clear that up 
for me?  
> (The reason I ask is, I'm being charged by the camshaft)  Horray 
for better 
> performance!  Well....a little maybe.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Aaron King
> Kirkland, WA
> vin#1217
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 12:07:05 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Cooling problems

Sacha,

It is extremely unlikely that your water pump is not circulating coolant through your cooling system unless the drive belt is detached. The most common cause of rapid overheating is due to a broken water pump drive belt or insufficient coolant level. Check to see if you have at least 1" of coolant in your header tank when the engine is cold.

Your are using the incorrect method to test your cooling fans. To test the fans simply unplug the two connectors at the cooling fan thermal switch (M:15:01 fig. 61 item# 1 workshop manual) located in the coolant return line on the driver side of the engine compartment. Insert any value blade fuse (any fuse from your fuse block will work) into the two connectors, turn on the ignition; both fans should activate.

DMC Joe


"We're here to help you"

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Web Site: <http://www.deloreanservices.com"> DeLorean services.com
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:22:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: DMC Prices


When asked about price (value) of a DeLorean, I always
start by quoting the price from DMC Houston for a
warranteed, reconditioned car; ie, $29,500.  This give
a frame of reference the questioner can understand. 
Then I start talking about trailer queens, daily
drivers, and "hurts", pointing out that , yes, there
are $8-10K cars out there and if you are a good
mechanic with $5-6K to spend on parts, then one of
those $8-10K cars MIGHT be a good deal.  

BTW, if addtion to Ebay, I think we have to consider
the impact of BTTF.  On the one hand, BTTF made our
cars very recognizable to a whole new generation of
potential owners.  On the other hand, those movies
trivialized our cars to the point of making them
appear as  a "Disney-like" creation.  Thus, not to be
taken seriously as a collector/special car.

My 2

Dick Ryan
VIN 16867  

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:31:05 -0000
From: "Jeff" <Gr8old1_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Anybody from Connecticut planning to attend the open-house?

Hi all, just looking to see who else on the list is from CT or nearby 
who is planning on attending the open-house event in August. I am, 
and am trying to see what i need to do to make the trip a smooth one. 
I've never gone to any dmc events before, actually this will be my 
first "vacation" ever! So anybody who can provide some good info 
regarding flight booking and vehicle rental in the Houston area, I 
would much appreciate some info. My only problem seems to be that car 
rental agencies require a person to be 25. I'm only 24! Thanks for 
any help.


-Jeff

future DMC owner.
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:57:55 -0000
From: gus_at_dml_austin.rr.com
Subject: hyperactive antenna

Driving yesterday I could hear this "click-click-click" as I drove, so
I turned off the radio to hear better.  Hmmm, sound went away, oh
well.  I turned the radio back on, and the noise came back!  I
repeated this a few times before I concluded that my power antenna was
not shutting off once it reached the top if it's travel.  Yech!

Does anyone have any ideas or solutions, besides the $169.50 one?


Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
4695




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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 09:44:46 -0400
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>
Subject: RE: Cam removal for performance grind...

Complication depends on your skill level

They are overhead cams, so you will need to remove the timing chains.
The DeLorean is a 12V motor, so there is only one cam per bank. 

Make sure your cam grinder knows that the DeLorean is ODD FIRE, The
PRV-V6 has been produced in both odd and even fire configurations.


Please share your results with the list.

Marc


-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron King [mailto:floodle_at_dml_subdimension.com]
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 7:59 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Cam removal for performance grind...


I am going to get the cams in my engine a performance grind, and I was 
wondering if removing them (and reinstalling them) is too difficult for
a beginning to intermediate mechanic.
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:11:59 -0000
From: gus_at_dml_austin.rr.com
Subject: Re: Cooling problems

Sacha,

You're quite right in assuming that water is not circulating.  You can
be sure by checking the radiator pipes under the front of the car,
which I'm sure are cold even when the engine is overheating.

Most likely you have air in the cooling system that must be bled out. 
Now might be a good time to get one of the Magic Bleeding Systems from
your favorite vendor, or you'll have to do it the hard way: bleed a
little from the thermostat, wait for the engine to cool, dump
collected fluid back in, repeat.

If your relays are in the stock configuration, then the cooling fans
are not supposed to come on with the A/C.  My car was modified to do
this, but I'm not sure if the FanZilla does this as well.

Your fans should come on if you ground the signal wire of the
otterstat (I think...pretty sure).

You don't need 12V on your water pump, it is driven by a belt!  And
frankly, you don't need the cooling fans that much, either.  As long
as the car keeps moving, I've never needed the fans to kick on unless
the A/C was running.  You will need the fans, but bleeding the air out
is the more immediate problem.


Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
4695





--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Sacha Prins <sprins_at_dml_b...> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm experiencing cooling problems with my new DeLorean. It overheats
> 10 minutes just idling...
> - The fans never turn on (even when I turn on the AC).
> - I doupt the water pump works at all...

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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:21:55
From: "Ryan Foster" <westiething_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Cooling problems

Sacha,
I just went through the same thing. My delorean wasn't cooling right either. 
I drained and flushed the coolent, replaced the thermostat, (it was stuck 
closed), Refilled the coolent with prestone silver antifreeze then purged 
the system of air. very important, air builds up in the thermostat housing, 
and can cause an air lock.
I checked my fans too, they wern't coming on either so we pulled the wires 
from the thermol switch located in the left side engine compartment , Then 
made a jumper wire, plugged the wire into each wire from the switch. turn on 
the car and the fans came on. They should also come on with the A/C.
  In my case someone was playing with the wireing in the relay area and 
wired one of the diodes backwards. which caused the fans not to come on.
That should be a good start.
  Ryan- vin.#16301

>From: Sacha Prins <sprins_at_dml_businessnet.net>
>Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
>To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [DML] Cooling problems
>Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:48:14 +0200
>
>
>Hi,
>
>I'm experiencing cooling problems with my new DeLorean. It overheats in
>10 minutes just idling. This makes me believe the cooling system doesn't
>work at all.
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:11:23 -0000
From: knut.s.grimsrud_at_dml_intel.com
Subject: Latest DeLorean CLub of Oregon newsletter posted

The latest issue of the DeLorean Club of Oregon Newsletter has been 
posted and is available at http://www.dmcnews.com/faq/n_back.htm

      Knut





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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 13:39:39 EDT
From: fjk143_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: Dead Market?

Good cars sell for good prices only to good buyers.  The task, if you have a good car, is to find a good buyer and they exist regardless of economy.  The internet specialty sites may work to get the car sold at a less than good price.  If your car, whatever it is, is as good as you say, spend $500 to $1000 and put it in DuPont Registry where serious and qualified buyers look.  If it is a parts car, go the eBay route and take what you can get and run.

Fred
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:48:41 -0000
From: "David Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: Re: DMC Prices

Some interesting stats based on the currently posted ads at 
www.dmcnews.com:

Currently there are 49 ads posted, all have appeared since January 1.

46 of the ads have an average price of 17,500, with a median of 
16,900. Highest is 25,000, lowest is 11,800. (I left out the one for 
$65K Australian). No way to tell what has sold at what price, 
sometimes the posters tell me, sometimes they don't. It's probably 
safe to assume that the actual selling prices are a few percent lower 
than asking prices. 

The other 3 are for non-running "project or parts" cars, with an 
average price of $7600. 

The thing that interests me is the quantity available, This 
represents 100 cars per year coming onto the market via this forum, a 
pretty small percentage of the cars out there but maybe a large 
number for a relatively limited-interest vehicle. If you look in any 
of the other common ad places (Hemmings, AutoTrader etc) the numbers 
are similar (Some are the same cars!).

In any case, the law of supply and demand is what determines the 
selling price of such things, not any artificial setting of prices. 
It is very difficult for any small group of people to drastically 
influence an entire collector-car (or most any other) market. Maybe 
eBay is the "purest" forum, but I suspect that the low-priced cars on 
ebay are actually overpriced for condition, and often sold to people 
who don't know any better. This is sad, because they end up 
disappointing someone. I've never seen one there that was such a 
fantastic deal that I would go running for my checkbook.

It's also interesting to note that several of the DeLorean vendors 
have told of significant demand for well-restored, warranted cars in 
the upper 20Ks to lower 30Ks, enough to keep them busy. 

At any rate, the most significant issue right now is probably, as 
David T pointed out, the economy. People will definitely defer 
optional luxury items such as this during uncertain times. 

Not sure what else to conclude, I'm sure there will be more 
discussion. 

Dave Swingle




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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:06:58 -0000
From: theshovel1224_at_dml_yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Tach to Speed chart

There is a chart at this address, but it only
goes to 85 mph.  It does tell you numbers you
can multiply by to convert rpms to mph, though.

http://www.dmcnews.com/Resource/rpm2mph.html

1st gear -  6.50 mph per 1000 RPM
2nd gear - 10.63 mph per 1000 RPM
3rd gear - 15.84 mph per 1000 RPM
4th gear - 20.71 mph per 1000 RPM
5th gear - 26.63 mph per 1000 RPM

John Yeoman





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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:11:01 -0000
From: theshovel1224_at_dml_yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Cooling problems

After you get your fans & water pump working,
get a self bleeder from DMC Joe, and if you
can afford it at that time, a fanzilla.
These two additions will help keep your cooling
system working properly.

John Yeoman





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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:12:07 -0400
From: "marvin" <marv_at_dml_printeddrinkware.com>
Subject: DeLorean Meet

Last Reminder - 
Arrangements have been made for excellent weather in Canada
DATE: weekend of June 16,2001

PLACE: London, Ontario, Canada

WHAT: show and shine and get together, includes a cruise around town, park and show Saturday in the Park, Sat nite dinner, dance, Sunday car show late in the day (over 250 cars)
COST/ REGISTRATION: zero, zip, nothing - you pay for your own lodging, meals, etc.

FREEBIES: souvenir patio glass custom printed for this event to all who show, and a casino bucket with goodies, promo stuff, etc.

CONTACT: me
Marvin Stein
vin #4239
tel: 519 - 434 - 1666
fax: 519 - 434 - 7071
res: 519 - 438 - 7174
cell: 519 - 852 - 1667
email: marv_at_dml_printeddrinkware.com
web: printeddrinkware.com
Printed Drinkware Company
924 Dundas Street
London, Ontario, Canada N5W 3A1


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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 19:08:39
From: "Ryan Foster" <westiething_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: 4th speed fan switch

I know this might sound silly, but the fourth speed on my fan doesn't work.
1. Could this be a bad switch?
2. could this be a bad fan motor?
3. any other ideas this could be?

Thanks for any help!

                         Ryan- vin.#16301

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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:29:48 -0400
From: "Joseph Molino" <foxmul_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>
Subject: Re: rain leak

I have the same thing even though I have all new door seals.

Vin 2850
Joseph Molino

----- Original Message -----
From: <jake_at_dml_ragingbull.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 7:14 PM
Subject: [DML] rain leak


>
> well the car was outside today and we had some pretty average rain.
>
> i've got a leak, but doesn't seem to be the door seals, in fact i
> thought it was the windshield, but it doesnt seem like water could
> get up under the ridge.

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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:35:07 -0400
From: "Joseph Molino" <foxmul_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>
Subject: Re: Cooling problems

Dear Sacha,

Try bleeding the system first.  If there are air pockets in the lines, the
coolant cannot circulate and therefore would not trip the fans (they are
thermostatically controlled).  Try this first.

Joseph
vin 2850
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sacha Prins" <sprins_at_dml_businessnet.net>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 7:48 AM
Subject: [DML] Cooling problems


>
> Hi,
>
> I'm experiencing cooling problems with my new DeLorean. It overheats in
> 10 minutes just idling. This makes me believe the cooling system doesn't
> work at all.
>

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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:33:42 -0400
From: "Joseph Molino" <foxmul_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>
Subject: Re: 4th speed fan switch

make sure the knob is on the right way first.



Joseph M.
vin 2850


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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:30:48 -0000
From: srubano_at_dml_optonline.com
Subject: Re: Cam removal for performance grind...

DOH! I meant to say it is a single cam...one cam on each bank...not 
dual on one bank...sorry

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., srubano_at_dml_o... wrote:
> The Delorean is a Dual cam. Removing the cams will require the 
> removal of the following items: The rocker arms, cylinder heads 
> (since you have the remove the head bolts to remove the rocker arm 
> assembly), timing chain cam sprocket, air intake assembly and other 
> small misc. things. You will then have to re-set all the timing's 

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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:31:03 EDT
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Cooling problems

In a message dated 6/12/01 9:46:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
sprins_at_dml_businessnet.net writes:

<< should I put 12V directly on
 the individual fans and the 12V connection on the waterpump? >>
 
Sacha,

     What do you mean by putting a 12V connection on the waterpump?  It works 
by turning with the belt from the crank pulley.  If you tried tripping the 
otterstat switch that is on the drivers side cooling line, and the fans still 
don't go on, then there has to be a problem either at the fans themselves or 
in the electrical compartment.  Maybe you still have that blue relay in 
there.  If you do, you must remove that and put in that "temporary" wire 
modification to make the fans go on.

Later,
Nick
1852
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 20:33:14 -0000
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com
Subject: Re: Reluctant downshift.

It does sounds like you need your shift linkage adjusted. Procedures 
on how to perform the adjustment are in the workshop manual. If the 
plastic clutch line were the culprit, you would have grinding when 
going into gears. You may want to take the car back to the shop the 
did the clutch replacement. When my local DeLorean mechanic replaced 
the clutch, they of course had to drop the tranny. But when they put 
it back in, the two mechanics had my car on the lift and shifted thru 
all gears (with the engine running)to check the linkage adjustment. 
But since you replaced the shift assembly, you would need to 
naturally need to perform an adjustment anyhow.

One quick question: How exactly did your shift assembly break? While 
it is a part that does see frequent use, I don't imagine that it has 
a good deal of stress put onto it's parts.

-Robert
vin 6585




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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:41:12 -0500
From: "B Benson" <delornut_at_dml_peoplepc.com>
Subject: Re: Cam removal for performance grind...

You don't need to remove the timing chains if you have the proper tool to
hold the timing chain gears in place after removing the bolts that attach
them to the cam. You will have to remove the heads as the cam goes through
each head. Remember that the cams are surface hardened and your grinder must
know what he's doing or you'll end up with soft cams. Experiance would be
the rule of thumb here.

Bruce Benson



> Complication depends on your skill level
>
> They are overhead cams, so you will need to remove the timing chains.
> The DeLorean is a 12V motor, so there is only one cam per bank.
>
> Make sure your cam grinder knows that the DeLorean is ODD FIRE, The
> PRV-V6 has been produced in both odd and even fire configurations.
>
>
> Please share your results with the list.
>
> Marc





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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 16:39:27 EDT
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: 4th speed fan switch

In a message dated 6/12/01 4:25:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
westiething_at_dml_hotmail.com writes:

<< I know this might sound silly, but the fourth speed on my fan doesn't work.
 1. Could this be a bad switch?
 2. could this be a bad fan motor?
 3. any other ideas this could be?
  >>
Ryan,

      If its just 4th speed, then I think it might be the relay that controls 
the 4th speed that is bad.  Since 3rd and 4th speeds are controlled by 
separate relays, I would swap those 2 relays and then see if 4th speed works 
and 3rd doesn't.  If that happens then replace that relay and you will be 
fine.  

Later,
Nick
1852
<A HREF="Http://members.aol.com/njp548">Http://members.aol.com/njp548</A>



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Message: 25
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 21:30:11 -0000
From: sprins_at_dml_businessnet.net
Subject: Re: Cooling problems

Thanks DMC Joe and others who responded to my question,

I may have forgotten one tiny detail about the car, it has been
garaged for 8 years so things might have gotten stuck in the meantime.
Furthermore I just found out (through a FanZilla leaflet) that the
FanFailBypass was wrongfully connected (previous owner mistake?). This
probably caused the otterstat trick to fail which I tried this
afternoon. Tomorrow I'll (again, with correct FanFail wiring) try the
otterstat trick, and if that still doesn't work I'll try shorting the
FanRelay and FanFix contacts to give my fans juice (individually),
just to hear the fans spin.

Then I'll try to install the DMC Joe self-bleeding-kit which I still
have laying around. This may be a bit tricky since the BAE turbo kit
which is installed on the engine is a bit in the way.

My guess however is that the thermostat may be stuck (from 8 years
storage) causing the free flow of coolant to be obstructed, I'm
wondering how probable this is, and how problematic this may be. Can
the thermostat/pump be repaired or would I then need a new thermostat?
I'm guessing the pump usually lasts a lifetime.

Sacha


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> Sacha,
> 
> It is extremely unlikely that your water pump
> is not circulating coolant through your cooling
> system unless the drive belt is detached.

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