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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 590
Date: Saturday, June 16, 2001 4:39 AM

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There are 9 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. "rippeled seats" (was Vin 173???)
From: "Michael" <>

2. Re: Hot Start frustration

3. Re: Paint removal

4. Re: Air Metering Unit

5. New Insurance site.
From: "Scott Mueller" <>

6. Re: Automatic Car Wash boo boo

7. [ETDOC] JULY 8 MEET at Biltmore Estate, Ashville, NC
From: Aaron Posey <>

8. Re: Air Metering Unit

9. RE: DMC Prices
From: "Scott Mueller" <>

Message: 1
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:05:43 -0400
From: "Michael" <>
Subject: "rippeled seats" (was Vin 173???)

Mike and others,

Your seats do look like they are in excellent condition, but not "like new"
condition.  From the factory, the seats did have a bit of a ripple effect.
For comparison, check out the 2 links below. The first one is from Mike P's
car, and the second one is from my former car

Mike Pike:  (original seats,
Mike Babb:
(replaced seats - about 1000 miles on them when the picture was taken)


Michael C. Babb

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Pike []

Unless there is something about the replaced leather
seats - mine are original, and I don't have a wrinkle
in them... not a blemish.... these so called new ones
are always beat up looking...  [snip]
You can see pics of my seats at:

anyhow, I just wondered because I see lots of people
claiming new seats, and they look like crap to me.



Message: 2
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 00:27:18 -0000
Subject: Re: Hot Start frustration

You need to determine if the problem is ignition or fuel. With the 
symptom you described the majority of the time it is the fuel 
accumulater at fault but a bad impulse coil or ignition coil could 
also be the cause. The next time it won't start hot pull a spark plug 
wire and see if there is any spark while cranking.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., badgeman46_at_dml_h... wrote:
>    My DeLorean won't start once it has been shut off from operating 
> temp. I have been trying to figure this one out to no avail. I 
> replaced the accumulator, which helped it in cold starting, but not 
> hot starting. I just finished getting a new fuel pump installed. The 
> old pump was corroded away to nothing, and it would have died soon, 
> but alas it did not solve my hot start problem. Any Ideas?? 
> -Jay


Message: 3
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 00:38:12 -0000
Subject: Re: Paint removal

To restore the door you don't have to replace it. Even with some 
damage and holes from a dent puller it can be repaired. It would 
require removal and shipping to someone capable of such repairs but it 
would be a lot cheaper than buying another door. The bigger question 
is what other damage there is and how badly you want to return the car 
to the origional finish. Even if there is no damage to a painted car 
not only would it require removal of the paint and fixing any damage 
but it will also involve regraining as the surface was probably sanded 
by a random orbital sander so as to give the paint job a "bite". The 
best way to go about this would be to remove the panels from the car 
and chemicaly remove the paint. IMHO if the paint job is in fair shape 
leave it alone unless you have a lot of time or money. The person you 
need to talk to is Dan Deutch (I probably misspelled his name) as he 
had a BLACK car with a bad paint job that he tried to repair and one 
thing lead to another and now the car is stainless again.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Jay Jones <JayJones_at_dml_F...> wrote:
> I made a discovery. You guessed it, Bondo in the holes from a dent 
> I wanted to cry.  I was planning on removing the paint and getting 
it back
> to the stainless steal that we all love.  I can't afford to buy 
another door
> right now.  The metal looks as though it would only be some slight 
dings to
> it. In other words if I did remove the paint I don't think it would 
> bad, (not great or even possibly good, but not bad


Message: 4
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 00:48:40 -0000
Subject: Re: Air Metering Unit

I am guessing you have a major vacuum leak. You say you have a "hollow 
plug" on top. If you are referring to the place where a tamperproof 
plug is supposed to be that is the spot to adjust the mixture screw. 
Make sure it is sealed against vacuum. The metering unit doesn't 
really do much at idle as the idle motor controls the amount of air, 
the fuel distributer is just putting the minimum amount of fuel into 
the motor. Check the 3 brass screws on the intake plenum are LIGHTLY 
seated closed and the idle micro switch is being activated by the 
throttle spool at idle. There is supposed to be a vacuum layout 
sticker on the underside of the engine cover.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "J Rowe" <rowejj_at_dml_n...> wrote:
>     I've got a question about the air metering unit. I haven't been 
able to get my car started
> at all this week so I went out fooling around with it this morning. 
Heres what I found. It 


Message: 5
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 20:34:58 -0500
From: "Scott Mueller" <>
Subject: New Insurance site.

I just looked at a site that offers insurance for DeLoreans.

I inputted my information and received a quote in minutes.

The car is insured for an "agreed value" and the yearly mileage cannot
exceed 5000 miles.

Lelandwest has DeLorean listed.

Just thought I would share this with the list.

Scott Mueller
DMCNEWS 002981
DOA 5031


Message: 6
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 22:15:25 EDT
Subject: Re: Automatic Car Wash boo boo

In a message dated 6/15/01 12:41:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, writes:

> . I normally wash my D _at_dml_ the do-it-yourself 
> car wash with the high presure sprayer. When I wash my car, I do lift 
> the louvers and scrub and spray the engine cover and rear-inner 

Be careful how you do the louvers.  The two rectangular mini louvers at the 
lower edge are neither glued nor molded in place.  They're held in by a type 
of black caulk, which I discovered after I got too close and blew one out 
onto the roof of my D while at a car wash!  No damage, fortunately. 8-p

Wayne A. Ernst

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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 19:40:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: Aaron Posey <>
Subject: [ETDOC] JULY 8 MEET at Biltmore Estate, Ashville, NC

Hey all-

Ok...Looks like things with the meet are proceeding quite
well. JULY 8, 2001, Biltmore Estate Meet of the ETDOC.

SO far, it looks like I have at least 7 confirmed cars
going to be there. I would like to get as many as possible
so if you are in the area of Ashville, NC do not hesitate
to come. Also, if you are an enthusiast please come by,

We will park right up in front of the home for a very nice
photo opportunity.  I would like to start lining up the
cars around 9-9:30am. Then we will tour the home, grounds,
winery, and eating lunch at the The Bistro restaurant
there. Afterwards, we will leave for a road tour around the
city of Ashville at approx 2:30-3pm.  I will post more on
the road tour when I get more info...Scott Cagle is
handling that part!

Their will be a cost to enter the Estate, which will be
$27.25 (normally $35). To get the discount, just stop by
the Group Sales Office, instead of the Reception Ticket
Area, prior to entering the gate to purchase your ticket--
just mention you are with the DeLorean Group.

If you have any questions, visit, (for directions and pics), or email me at


Aaron Posey

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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 03:14:47 -0000
Subject: Re: Air Metering Unit

What do you mean by a Hollow plug? Is it a hole? If it is just a hole 
it's suppose to be plugged up otherwise you will have a major vacuum 
leak. If it's just a hole you'll need to plug it, this is the access 
to the CO set screw inside the metering unit. If you lost the plug to 
it, I have heard of a few people using golf "T's" in it's place.


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "J Rowe" <rowejj_at_dml_n...> wrote:
> On a side note, there is also what looks to be a hollow plug 
between the air metering unit 
> and fuel distributor. Is it supposed to be like that or is there 
supposed to be a screw or some-


Message: 9
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:20:29 -0500
From: "Scott Mueller" <>
Subject: RE: DMC Prices

So, How much did D1 charge you? When did you purchase it?

Scott Mueller
DMCNEWS 002981
DOA 5031

-----Original Message-----
From: Trevor L Johnson []
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] DMC Prices

Yes They do exist, I should know, I own a DeLorean One Built DeLorean. 
It took about 5 months after the down payment. Superb Machine. Smells
new, Drives New, Runs like it is right off the showroom floor. I have put
about 5k miles on it since last September. Worth every penny. There are
several that are sold every year, but the time required makes the wait
approximately 4-6 months.


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