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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 597
Date: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 5:53 AM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Idle Problems
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

2. Re: Re: door dings caused by window regulator
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

3. Re: Vinyl Door molding
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

4. Re: hesitant DeLorean
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

5. Re: oil pressure guage
From: gus_at_dml_austin.rr.com

6. Re: how hot is too hot?
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

7. Cooling System.
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com

8. Control Pressure Regulator rebuild advice?
From: srubano_at_dml_optonline.com

9. Frequency valve and RPM relay
From: Jan_at_dml_vdWouw.Demon.nl

10. DeLorean Seat Covers on Ebay.
From: gwgjr26_at_dml_yahoo.com

11. RE: Vin 502 pictures, anyone???
From: "Michael" <michael_at_dml_babbtechnology.com>

12. Delorean Sighting
From: "Edward Pryor" <fasted98_at_dml_hotmail.com>

13. Re: Advice on tuning my engine
From: William T Wilson <fluffy_at_dml_snurgle.org>

14. Re: Dead Pedal Install
From: gerenpreiss_at_dml_netscape.net

15. Re: Nationality of DeLorean
From: "Chris Parnham" <chrisparnham_at_dml_cwcom.net>

16. Re: East Coast/Midwest DMC repair facilities
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com

17. Low Mileage Delorean for Sale
From: squire_at_dml_mossyback.com

18. Trapped in a DeLorean?
From: "Joe Thome" <joethome_at_dml_jps.net>

19. Re: out the window?
From: theshovel1224_at_dml_yahoo.com

20. Re: Nationality of DeLorean
From: milestwo_at_dml_aol.com

21. Re: out the window?
From: "Payne" <bpayne_at_dml_macnet.com>

22. Re: Vinyl Door molding
From: "Payne" <bpayne_at_dml_macnet.com>

23. Re: out the window?
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com

24. DeLorean Car Show
From: kkoncelik_at_dml_aol.com

25. Re: Idle Problems
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:59:57 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Idle Problems

Your surging idle is caused by either a problem in the fuel (acceleration) enrichment circuit or an out of tolerance CO mix adjustment.

DMC Joe

www.dmc.tv 

"We're here to help you"

DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>

DeLorean services.com

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jack Singer 
  To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 8:28 PM
  Subject: RE: [DML] Idle Problems


  I am sorry if I missed this one but here is my problem:

  The idle on my D starts out at 1000, then quickly goes from 500 to 1000 and
  back and forth and continues every time I get to a light.  It almost feels
  like it is about to die out.  I changed the coil and coil wire as was
  recommended by a friend but that did not fix it. Any ideas PLEASE!

  Jack.
  5823








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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:09:13 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Re: door dings caused by window regulator

We have installed several hundred heavy duty window motor/regulators from DeLorean One, Swedish Automotive, Kapac, DMC Houston, and PJ Grady with absolutely no door denting problems. 

Virtually all damages related to window motors is caused by improper installation procedures. Keep in mind that there is nothing about the window motor operation that would cause denting of the door panel.

DMC Joe
  
www.dmc.tv 

"We're here to help you"

DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>

DeLorean services.com

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net 
  To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 10:33 AM
  Subject: [DML] Re: door dings caused by window regulator


  If this is as big a problem as you say the simple fix would be to glue 
  a piece of sheet metal (cold rolled or s/s) about 4"x4" to the inside 
  of the door to prevent distortion.
  David Teitelbaum
  vin 10757


  --- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_a...> wrote:
  > I have the heavy duty window regulator in my passenger door, and I 
  just
  > confirmed today that it is responsible for putting a dent in the 
  door skin.
  > I started this thread before suspecting that the dents were only 
  caused by
  > the OEM window regulators since I have seen several DeLoreans with 
  the same
  > dents in the doors.
  > 
  > Anyway, I HEREBY OFFICIALLY COMPLAIN THAT THE HEAVY DUTY REPLACEMENT 
  WINDOW
  > REGULATORS SOLD BY THE DELOREAN VENDORS HAVE A DESIGN DEFECT 
  ALLOWING THE
  > TUBE TO PUSH AGAINST AND DENT THE DOOR FROM THE INSIDE.  I'm not too 








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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:42:45 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Vinyl Door molding

The body moldings, called rub strips, are sold with an adhesive backing, and can be peeled off for service or replacement. If you are re attaching a previously installed strip use 3M Emblem Adhesive, follow the directions for professional results.

DMC Joe
"Check Out Our New Web Site" www.dmc.tv 

"We're here to help you"

DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>

DeLorean services.com

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Murray Fisher 
  To: DeLorean 
  Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 9:59 AM
  Subject: [DML] Vinyl Door molding


  I am getting a small dent removed from the door of my D, on July 9th.  The
  owner of a large Body shop here, formerly did body work on DeLoreans as part
  of the original QAC facility and is familiar with this work.........however
  they will use a relatively new technique on this one.....they have a machine
  that has several "fingers" on it that are epoxied to the metal and will PULL
  the metal out versus pushing it from the backside.   When the job is done
  the contact points are heated and the expoxy lets loose and it is ready for
  texturing......

  This is a quite small dent, ( 1/8 inch deep and tapering out a few inches)
  but noticeable, and I have been putting off having it done for a couple
  years, although it is fully covered by insurance.    One question he asked,
  was whether I knew HOW that side door body molding is fastened.  Is it
  cemented to the stainless, as we both suspect or are there bolts or
  fasteners of some sort.    How is it removed and can it be recemented back
  on?  He would like to take it off to facilitate this dent removal and it has
  a VERY slight bend in it too, which would come out when it is put back on.

  Can someone comment on taking this Vinyl body molding off and putting it
  back on? Adhesive?

  Thanks.

          Murray Fisher
          Vin: 05962 Lic: DMC-XII
          Washington State





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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:42:05 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: hesitant DeLorean

Brian,


Check to be sure that the vacuum lines and electrical connector at the vacuum solenoid switch are correctly connected.

DMC Joe
  
www.dmc.tv 

"We're here to help you"

DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>

DeLorean services.com

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: lovdmc12_at_dml_aol.com 
  To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2001 3:39 PM
  Subject: [DML] hesitant DeLorean


  After washing my DeLorean the other week, I took it for a drying off drive.  
  The car felt funny and sputtered a little during acceleration.  When it got 
  up to around 3000 RPM's it was fine.  It cruised along at 70 MPH with no 
  problems.  I assumed something in the engine compartment had gotten wet.

  Another week went by, and I took it out again.  I had the same problem, so I 
  check all the sparkplug wires and all were sealed tightly to their plugs and 
  the distributor.  I checked and found no signs of water in the plugs wells 
  either.

  I took the car out Saturday morning and again it hestitated during 
  acceleration until 3000 RPMs then it once again steadied out.  However, while 
  cruising the interstate, it began to sputter and jerk aa little at 70 and 75 
  MPH.  It didn't doi it all the time just sometimes.  The car also idles a 
  little rough, I mean the car shakes.  The tach shows it idling around 1000 
  RPM, but the engine isn't running right as the car has never shaken before 
  during idle. 

  I'm wondering what the problem is.  Is it possible that it's the primary 
  pressure regulator?  I'm trying to get her back in shape to go to the ETDOC 
  meeting at Biltmore, so I don't have but a few weeks to figure this out and 
  get the car fixed.  Any suggestions from the list would be greatly 
  appreciated.

  Brian
  VIN 1597





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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:25:57 -0000
From: gus_at_dml_austin.rr.com
Subject: Re: oil pressure guage

FYI...

My old guage pegged at the top all the time, too.  For some reason, it
no longer does this with the high-output USADMC engine.  When cold, it
pegs near the top, and when warm it cruises in the upper/middle of the
range and idles near the bottom.

It probably helps that I'm using nice, fresh synthetic oil and not
that rancid, 60-million-year-old gunk.  :-)


Gus Schlachter
Austin, TX
4695


> 
> This is the way the stock O.E.M. oil presure gauge seems to work.
> You can watch the oil pressure with a mechanial guage to verify the 
> engine is O.K. If you want the oil gauge to be more responsive
> contact Marty Maier. He is selling a sending unit that will make
> the gauge work like it should.
>   David Teitelbaum
>   vin 10757




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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 14:44:35 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: how hot is too hot?

Even under extreme conditions the temperature gauge should not go beyond the 220 mark. Have you checked your cooling fan operation?

DMC Joe

www.dmc.tv 

"We're here to help you"

DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>

DeLorean services.com

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Christian Williams 
  To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 12:44 AM
  Subject: [DML] how hot is too hot?



  Over the last couple of days though, I've driven the car quite a bit in
  the middle of the day. The air conditioning isn't working, so of course
  I'm hot, but the car has been running hot as well. Usually, the temp gauge
  sits somewhere between the 220 mark, and the tick mark below it (160). In
  the sun though, the temperature goes just a little above 220, and today
  got half way between 220 and the next higher tick (240).

  Christian








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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:50:13 -0000
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com
Subject: Cooling System.

With both fans running properly on my car, my cooling system barely 
goes above 220. My car has the 3-layer radiator, new pump, 
thermostat, stainless overflow bottle, radiator cap, new hoses and 
the overheat protector. It does have a slight leak on the y pipe 
under the manifold. And my car is a dailydriver in 110+ weather in 
the summertime. When the A/C runs is the only time the temp creeps 
above 220. And even then, it still touches the 220 mark. The cooling 
fans normally kick on _at_dml_ 220, and will kick off _at_dml_ 180 or so. The 
only time I've ever had the temp go any higher was when the water 
pump shut off (broken belt).

Right now, my left front cooling fan has failed. To avoid slow 
cooling, and to keep performance, my otterstat has been bypassed, and 
a switch installed. This way my fans are fused to always run when the 
engine is on. I don't run my A/C right now because it will heat up my 
car too much. But with only 1 fan on constantly, my car runs cool.

If your car starts creeping up to 240, then I would say there is a 
problem. The first thing to check is how tight you alternator belt 
is. If it's loose, it could be slipping. Which in turn would not spin 
the water pump as quicky as normal.

-Robert
vin 6585




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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:03:25 -0000
From: srubano_at_dml_optonline.com
Subject: Control Pressure Regulator rebuild advice?

Ok, I think I have a faulty control pressure regulator since I have 
the same pressure (3.5 bar) cold or hot. I am going to attempt to 
take it apart to see if I can fix it. At this point I have nothing to 
loose since I have to get a new one if I don't attempt to fix it...or 
I get a new one if I screw it up and it doesn't go back together. I 
know that a few people (I don't remember which ones on this list) 
have successfully done what I am about to do. Is there any advice, 
instructions, knowledge you can share with me? If so please email me.

Thanks,

Steve





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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:48:30 -0000
From: Jan_at_dml_vdWouw.Demon.nl
Subject: Frequency valve and RPM relay

Hello again,

First of all I would like to thatn everyone that responded to my 
previous question about my backfiring engine; I will pass on the info 
and hope they can solve it at the shop.

When I got my car out of its home (http://www.cartainer.nl (only in 
Dutch, sorry!!!)) I noticed a ticking sound by the engine, this
turned out to be an arcing spark plug lead on the left bank, I put it 
back the right way, so the ticking is solved now, but the engine
still backfires.

Since I had gotten a tip that concerned the frequency valve I decided 
to look where it was located (may seem dumb, but I really didn't
know). Well I found it, but finding it made me doubt wheter it
actually works or not: I read the section in the Work Shop Manual on 
the subject and did some searching in the archives; according to
those the FV should be buzzing at 70Hz, with a changing dutycycle 
between 20% and 80%.

70Hz should be easy to hear or feel I would think, but I DO NOT hear 
nor feel it buzzing... Supposing it does not work; what effects could 
this have on engine performance? If I understand the explanation
right it would cause the engine to run lean, not rich as mine is
doing. Or am I completely wrong here???

I also found out that I will have to check the electrics to my fuel 
pump some day soon: as I reported earlier it does not shut off
throught the Inertia Switch, today I discovered that it even runs 
without the RPM-relay in place: if I put the ignition to II the pump 
starts humming and keeps doing so untill I turn back to I or 0.

Could this have some influence on the ECU too? The RPM relay does
give it some signal, so it wouldn't surprise me at all...

Please answer me ASAP, as my appointment with the shop is less than a 
day away now... Thank you VERY much in advance,

JAN van de Wouw
Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

#05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000

check out the Delorean-Files at:
http://www.deloreanfiles.nl/
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:55:49 -0000
From: gwgjr26_at_dml_yahoo.com
Subject: DeLorean Seat Covers on Ebay.

DeLorean seat covers for sale on ebay.  Grey leather OEM.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5925
70382







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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:58:19 -0400
From: "Michael" <michael_at_dml_babbtechnology.com>
Subject: RE: Vin 502 pictures, anyone???

Interesting. . . .This e-mail below worked . . .was it to the same address
that you got fatal errors?

Michael

Michael C. Babb
MCSE, MCT, MCP-I, CNA, CCNA, Network+, I-Net+
mailto:Michael_at_dml_BabbTechnology.com
home: 919.303.0058
cell: 919.270.2488

-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Singer [mailto:jsinger_at_dml_i-c.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 8:26 AM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DML] Vin 502 pictures, anyone???

Michael,

I tried to send them but your email bounces back as a fatal error....

Jack
5823

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael <michael_at_dml_babbtechnology.com>
To: Dmcnews <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 12:47 AM
Subject: [DML] Vin 502 pictures, anyone???


>
> Hey all,
>
> I am working on a project (details soon . . hopefully), and am looking for
> any pictures of VIN 502 or the legend engine itself (even the mockup
engine
> on the pedestal would work great).  If anyone has any pics they could send
> me I would appreciate it. Please e-mail them or reply directly to me at
> Michael(at)babbtechnology.com
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Michael C. Babb
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:26:41 -0500
From: "Edward Pryor" <fasted98_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Delorean Sighting

     Starting on June 8th every friday evening from 6-9pm there is a Cruise 
night in Herrin, Illinois.  Anyway the first night I was at work and my mom 
came by and said there was a Delorean uptown.  Well, I stopped working (my 
job allows me to do so) and rushed uptown to go take a look.  Of course I 
was wishing that I had my camera with me but I didn't.  I didn't find the 
owner and I had to get back to work.  Then last friday it was there again 
and I of course had my camera this time and took a couple of pictures.  I 
didn't stay long because I had things that I had to get done.  It was an 83' 
and it was for sale. I am not a owner yet and probably won't be for a few 
more years.  So, seeing a Delorean gets me all excited.  Well, I just 
thought I'd mention my encounter.  Take care.


Edward Pryor
Future Delorean Owner
Current Enthusiast
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:11:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: William T Wilson <fluffy_at_dml_snurgle.org>
Subject: Re: Advice on tuning my engine

On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 delorean502_at_dml_excite.com wrote:

> I thought the O2 sensor was before the cat on a delorean

The O2 sensor is before the cat on every fuel injected car (though some
cars have a second O2 sensor after it as well).  Generally, you want to
put the O2 sensor as close to the engine as possible.

Removal of the cat should not upset the O2 sensor at all.  Since the O2
sensor is not used at full throttle conditions and (IIRC) is not used at
idle either, I would look elsewhere for the problem.  While a problem with
the O2 sensor might be responsible for very bad gas mileage, I think that
it's likely that the problem is elsewhere since it would not cause the
other symptoms.




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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:16:01 -0400
From: gerenpreiss_at_dml_netscape.net
Subject: Re: Dead Pedal Install


Walt,  

I have 5 speed DMC-12. I never felt comfortable as far as my left foot position was concerned. All my other cars have had a footrest. Most of my cars he been standard shift. Last year Dave Bauerle installed a dead pedal on my DMC-12.
It makes all the difference in the world. It feels just right. I am 5'-9".


Gus Vin #05971
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 23:24:46 +0100
From: "Chris Parnham" <chrisparnham_at_dml_cwcom.net>
Subject: Re: Nationality of DeLorean

IF the car had been built in the USA...... I doubt that there would have
been any Lotus involvement. Without their input, and the British Taxpayers
money, I doubt there would have been a car at all!

Chris P DOC UK British Citizen


----- Original Message -----
From: "Kurt" <markurbec_at_dml_elroynet.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] Nationality of DeLorean


> Just because the factory was in Northern Ireland and the British
government
> (bastards) helped finance the company, doesn't mean the car is British. He
> only chose Northern Ireland because he could get more financing. If the
car
> was built in the US, I don't think it would have been even slightly
> different.
> Kurt
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <lovdmc12_at_dml_aol.com>
> To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 9:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [DML] Nationality of DeLorean
>
>
> > I would consider the car's true nationality to be British since Northern
> > Ireland is part of Great Britain and because the British government
helped
> > finance the project.  DeLorean was born in Detroit and is not French.
> Hillel
> > Levin points out in his book that DeLorean is actually an eastern
European
> > name.
> >
> > Brian
> > VIN 1597
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
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http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:33:46 EDT
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: East Coast/Midwest DMC repair facilities

In a message dated 6/19/01 6:18:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu writes:

<< If you are on the East side of the lake, contact Rob Grady in West 
Sayville New
 York  (516) 589-6224.
 
 - Mike Substelny
 
 
  >>
due to area code changes the # for Rob Grady is now 631-589-6224

Later,
Nick
1852
<A HREF="Http://members.aol.com/njp548">Http://members.aol.com/njp548</A>



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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 23:34:52 -0000
From: squire_at_dml_mossyback.com
Subject: Low Mileage Delorean for Sale

After three years and 300 miles I've decided this unique car would be 
better appreciated by a new owner.  1981, VIN #2822, automatic, black 
interior, 1,700 miles.  My garage is the third one it's lived in in 
the Seattle area.  Exterior and interior are immaculate.  Comes with 
original keys, window sticker, owners manual, tool kit and other 
paraphenalia.

This car is a very unique well cared for low mileage Delorean.  
Pictures and contact info are at 
http://www.dragonlight.net/delorean.htm

Cheers.  -bob greco, Seattle, WA




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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:45:09 -0700
From: "Joe Thome" <joethome_at_dml_jps.net>
Subject: Trapped in a DeLorean?

Hello List members,

I just read on a web site something which indicates that there may have been some incidences of people being trapped in their DeLoreans because the doors wouldn't open. At least that was one person's opinion. The site goes on to say that the problem can be fixed.

I find the possibility of being trapped in my DeLorean kind of scary because of the cabin's rather cramped quarters. Is this really a potential problem, and if so, Is there a remedy? If so, what is it?

Many thanks in advance.

Joe Thome
VIN 6467  


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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:03:04 -0000
From: theshovel1224_at_dml_yahoo.com
Subject: Re: out the window?

(Moderator's note: It sounds as though the lady had LMC and DMC confused. Logan Manufacturing was owned by John DeLorean at one time and their logo, LMC, was in the same script as DMC. They manufactured ski grooming equipment.and were located in Utah.)


No QAC in Utah.  There was one in Irvine, CA, but not Utah.

John Yeoman

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., David Cox <DMCox_at_dml_d...> wrote:
> -I think that most of us have heard about the aluminum bodies, the
helicopter engines, the cocaine jokes, and "where's your flux
capacitor?", but here's one that is new to me:  Every Friday night
this summer, we've been going to a local cruise night.  We were
parked, with our doors open, when a couple approached the car.  The
woman ducked under the doors and peered up at them, then turned to
her comapnion and said "I don't see them."  This got my interest, so
I wandered over and started talking to them.  They wanted to know
where the door handles were located.  According to him, in San
Francisco at some time in the 80s, he'd had to park a Delorean, and
couldn't figure out how to open the doors.  He said he'd eventually
had to crawl out through a window.  I pointed out the size of the
window opening.  He then thought maybe it was the rear window - it
was, after all, a long time ago, so the details were a bit fuzzy... 
He was a skinny guy, but not that skinny!
> 
> ...then there was the woman who was telling someone as she walked
away "They built these near where I grew up, in Utah..."  Anybody
know if there was a quality control center in Utah? ;)
> 
> Dave
> vin 16367
> 
> _____________________________________________________________
> YourName_at_dml_d... -- it's free from <a href="http://www.delorean.com">
DeLorean Motor Company</a>!





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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:05:18 EDT
From: milestwo_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Nationality of DeLorean

KURT
Don't you think your word in () is a little out of line here, what do you 
think all of the British owners on the list will think. Maybe I'm just a 
prude. 
Lloyd
#3502 


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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:05:19 -0700
From: "Payne" <bpayne_at_dml_macnet.com>
Subject: Re: out the window?

Even as much as I've heard from all you guys on here, I'm still somtimes
amazed about people's misconceptions of the car.  I try to be as nice as  I
can to answer any questions, but I still have to ward off people who want to
dismantle my car to find the cocaine that they swear was hidden in every
DeLorean.  I still get the occasional "I used to know a guy who had one but
he couldn't drive it in the rain or it would rust," but lately I've been
getting some weird ones.  One man asked me if I built it myself, and another
insisted I had a Chrysler 440 engine.  A kid not much older than me pulled
me out of work so he could look at it, but he contested every fact I told
him about the car.  He insisted that the car from the factory would do 0-60
in 3.5 secconds if I "knew how to shift right."  And another guy was
contemplating my grille with a puzzled look on his face.  He then said
"DMC?!  Weren't those made by GMC?"

It's okay, I love the questions and I love the car.  It's the best thing
I've ever spent money on.

payne
proud owner of #2975



> -I think that most of us have heard about the aluminum bodies, the
helicopter engines, the cocaine jokes, and "where's your flux capacitor?",
> Dave
>
> vin 16367
>





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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:15:08 -0700
From: "Payne" <bpayne_at_dml_macnet.com>
Subject: Re: Vinyl Door molding

I bought a couple of replacement rubstrips recently, and I guess the
adhesive backing was old or defective and wouldn't stick.  I couldn't even
pull the backing off, I ended up removing the old tape completely.  I got
some double sided sticky tape from 3M that worked perfectly, it was almost
the perfect width too.  You should be able to find it at automotive stores,
it's a roll of red backed tape, and the stuff itself is actually a light
gray very thin foam strip.  It holds to the stainless quite firmly but can
be removed if needed.

If your'e having trouble finding the stuff let me know and I'll see if I can
locate some.

payne
bpayne(at)macnet.com


>One question heasked,was whether I knew HOW that side door body molding is >fastened.  Is it cemented to the stainless, as we both suspect or are there >bolts or fasteners of some sort.    How is it removed and can it be recemented
>back on?  >
>   Thanks.
>
>           Murray Fisher
>           Vin: 05962 Lic: DMC-XII
>           Washington State



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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 01:29:05 -0000
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com
Subject: Re: out the window?

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., David Cox <DMCox_at_dml_d...> wrote:
<SNIP>
> ...then there was the woman who was telling someone as she walked 
away "They built these near where I grew up, in Utah..."  Anybody 
know if there was a quality control center in Utah? ;)
> 
> Dave
> vin 16367

For some reason, I keep hearing this rumor ALOT. Here is Vegas, there 
is a significant population of people who are from Utah. I've heard 
about 3 different 'Urban Legends' about the DeLorean being built in 
Utah. While I have heard these rumors for the past couple of years, 
they are all simular to the point of being almost exact. One such 
rumor that was told to me by several people was that Logan Mfg. was 
building DMC-12's. I had one guy walk up to me at Pep-Boys and start 
up a conversation. He asked me if my car was built in Ireland or 
Utah. Puzzled, I told him of course Northern Ireland. What then 
proceded was a conversation discussing what he ment by Utah. The guy 
swore up and down that up at Logan, they had a seperate building 
where DMC-12's were assembled. He then told me a story of how he used 
to be a delivery boy for some sort of company back in early 1982. And 
that one day he had to make a delivery to Logan Mfg. The guy swore 
there were a least 30 cars that he saw sitting ready to be shipped. 
The guy even described to me where the styrofoam pads were when they 
were stuck to the car. Amazingly, he was right. But he said my car 
had something that none of the cars he saw did. And he pointed to the 
metal plate on my door jamb. My VIN plate.

Are these stories true? I don't know. While I have gotten VERY 
simular stories from various people I've met, I've never seen any 
rock solid proof. Untill I do, I just take the rumors with a grain of 
salt. More than likely, people just figure since DeLorean owned a 
plant in Utah, he must have been building cars there.

-Robert
vin 6585




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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:51:53 EDT
From: kkoncelik_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: DeLorean Car Show

My e-mail tonight was full of people asking what happened to the $89 rooms

Well they are all gone

Here  is a list of what is left

15 King Suites  $109  thats it.

Everyone took the 3 nights  

Thank you for your advance reservations it helps me plan better
If you have not reserved the number is 877-777-0606 then 1


Ken
<A HREF="http://deloreancarshow.com">DeLoreancarshow.com</A>


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Message: 25
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 22:56:34 EDT
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Idle Problems

Jack, Mine idled like this at one time because the Lambda system was looking 
for the right mixture. Yours may be different, but that what it was. Coils 
don't normally do that kind of problem. They will slowly weaken over years or 
open and the car dies abruptly.
John Hervey
http://www.specialtauto.com/



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