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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 635
Date: Thursday, July 19, 2001 7:12 AM

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There are 6 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Spares

2. Re: spares
From: Dick Ryan <>

3. Re: frame weight

4. Speaker Wiring.

5. New Key Question?

6. ADMIN NOTE: Virus thing
From: "David Swingle" <>

Message: 1
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 14:11:22 -0000
Subject: Re: Spares

I don't have a checklist but for "newbies" mayby it would be a good 
idea to create one. The best advice I can give you is to meet other 
members with Deloreans and see how they are supposed to look and have 
your car gone over by someone who knows what they are doing. Now after 
this if anything changes you will see something out of place or not as 
it was and know there is a problem. Some of the most important areas 
to look at are:
Tire pressure and tire condition (Don't forget the spare!).
lug nuts
coolant level and condition
fuel leaks
fuse and relay panel
trailing arm bolts
engine compartment in general
ground under the car after it has cooled off and sat for a while

There is really nothing too unique about the mechanicals or 
electricals of the Delorean as opposed to other fuel injected cars 
that you may own. Use the owner's manual and just go over the car from 
front to back, top to bottom and get familiar with it. If you do it in 
the same order everytime you will get to know when something isn't 
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Ed Garbade <garbadee_at_dml_b...> wrote:
> As a new owner I would certainally appreciate advice on what to 
check in a
> "pre-flight".  Not being an expert auto mechanic nor having direct 

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 11:32:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dick Ryan <>
Subject: Re: spares

--- marvin <> wrote:
> Where is the imagination? If you have problems,
> obviously you need a beautiful woman, a bottle of
> decent bubbly, 2 glasses, and eventually someone
> will come by who knows more about the systems and
> will fix it. It's not the end of the world! So you
> have to wait a while. 
- - - -  - - - - - - - - -  --
Marvin, you are absolutely right!  It is for that very
reason that on most of my long trips I am accompanied
by my wife.  She has informed me, however, that when I
go alone - I go alone.  

Dick Ryan
VIN 16867

PS Perhaps this is why she never complains about the
$$$ spent on routine maintenance.

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 11:13:04 EDT
Subject: Re: frame weight

In a message dated 7/18/01 7:56:39 AM Central Daylight Time, 

<< Result:
 The weight of the frame of my D (with Epoxy-Coating) is 96kg  (+-2kg).
 The conversion factor between kg and lb is approx. 2.2 
 The weight in lbs is therefore 211 lb.
 Martys figure of 197 lb is perhaps the frame without Epoxy Coating?
 Ralf. >>


   Very interesting. I did basically the same as you, I've got a complete 
bare frame which has just finished completely being redone. This frame was 
chemically dipped and stripped of all the original epoxy and has now been 
powder coated. I guess that means the original frames have about 14 lbs of 
epoxy coating on them ???  
    We've got another frame which currently is sitting in a chemical dip tank 
having it's epoxy removed. I'll try and get a weight on this frame when it 
comes out of the tank. It should make for an interesting comparison. 
    I guess we learn something new about these cars every day.



Message: 4
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 19:52:57 -0000
Subject: Speaker Wiring.

Quick question: Can anyone tell me where/how the wire for the rear 
speakers is routed? Long story short: Last year I commisioned to have 
rear speakers installed onto the rear pacel shelf wall. Minus the 
poor installation that was performed, the shop disconnected my rear 
speakers. So now I have sizeable "dead zones" between the seats and 
the doors. Before they were disconnected, the rears sounded fine. I'm 
just looking to splice into the wires to reconnect the speakers for 
now untill I can redesign the back.

Thanks in advance!

vin 6585


Message: 5
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 20:05:07 -0000
Subject: New Key Question?

When I removed my headliners, I discoved what the code was for my 
keys (1 key system). How was this code used by the original 
dealerships to cut keys, and where can I go today to have new keys 
cut using this code? I do plan on getting a set of new key blanks 
from one of the vendors, but I would like to start off with a fresh 
cut to make the locks work better

vin 6585


Message: 6
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 02:27:56 -0000
From: "David Swingle" <>
Subject: ADMIN NOTE: Virus thing

This will be the last post on the Virus. 

We are aware of an email virus that has been repeatedly hitting list 
members. This is not coming through the list, we do not pass 
attachments and do not moderate through meaningless messages 

One of our digest version list-members (mdrig aka yugoman) 
is "infected" with this virus. It replicates itself through email if 
you are using a Microsoft Email client (thanks Bill). It apparently 
replicates itself to the infectees address book AND any addresses 
contained in any unread email in his inbox (i.e. the digest). If you EVER clicked on the  attachment, you are now infected too (unless you have a Mac).

I have written to "mdrig" to explain the problem, AND disabled this 
his DML account so that it will stop sending out mails in response to 
digests, but I cannot do anything else about it. These are NOT coming 
through the list itself. 

If you see any mail with an attachment ending in .pif or .exe, just 
delete it. Eventually it will stop (I hope).

(Thanks Martin, (DOC-UK)) For more info on the virus, and how to remove it, see 

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Dave Swingle (Moderator of Moderators)


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