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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 642
Date: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 10:21 PM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Warning: Paradise Motorsport!
From: "Tamir Ardon" <tamir_at_dml_entermyworld.com>

2. Re: DeLorean check blanks?
From: Michael Pike <iqintermedia_at_dml_yahoo.com>

3. Air Vent Question
From: iqintermedia_at_dml_yahoo.com

4. Re: Rim replacement anyone?
From: "Sacha Prins" <sacha_at_dml_prins.net>

5. Re: DeLorean check blanks?
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com

6. Re: DeLorean check blanks?
From: "K Creason" <dmc4687_at_dml_mindspring.com>

7. Re: D sighting: Roanoke TImes Article
From: "Eric J. Hennebury" <ehennebury_at_dml_performconsulting.com>

8. Re: Warning: Paradise Motorsport!
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net

9. Re: Air Vent Question
From: Mike Substelny <msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu>

10. R-12 recharge
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com

11. Re: Locks (was New Owner)
From: "David Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

12. Mercedes C111
From: delorean502_at_dml_excite.com

13. Re: New Owner
From: Ed Garbade <garbadee_at_dml_bigfoot.com>

14. Re: Warning: Paradise Motorsport!
From: Michael Pike <iqintermedia_at_dml_yahoo.com>

15. finging light bulbs
From: "Ryan Foster" <westiething_at_dml_hotmail.com>

16. Re: Air Vent Question
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

17. RE: R-12 recharge
From: "Buckner, William" <William.Buckner_at_dml_pfizer.com>

18. ADMIN:Mail delivery update
From: "David Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

19. Door Struts for sale
From: "Dan RC30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>

20. Modesto/Stockton area owners?
From: RJRavalli_at_dml_AOL.com

21. Wiring for alarm/ignition/indicators
From: "Stian Birkeland" <delorean_at_dml_online.no>

22. Loose steering?
From: "Stian Birkeland" <delorean_at_dml_online.no>

23. ADMIN Even More Mail info
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

24. Re: Air Vent Question
From: "K Creason" <dmc4687_at_dml_mindspring.com>

25. Re: Warning: Paradise Motorsport!
From: Michael Pike <iqintermedia_at_dml_yahoo.com>





Message: 1
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 23:47:18 -0700
From: "Tamir Ardon" <tamir_at_dml_entermyworld.com>
Subject: Re: Warning: Paradise Motorsport!

To Andrew and the DML,

I feel the need to respond to Andrew's post that discusses Paradise Motor
Sport in Lombard, IL.  I was quite shocked to hear about his experience
there, and I felt he may not have depicted the true picture of Lance and his
store.  While I do not know the particulars about your specific experience
Andrew, I have dealt with Paradise on many occasions with great success.
Lance and his shop have worked on DeLoreans since the cars creation, and
they have done wonderful things on my car over the last four years.  I know
of others who have used their services, both DeLorean owners and other
classic car owners that have had great results as well.

The work he has done on my car has ranged from replacing my clutch to the
most minor of cosmetic improvements.  Each time he has done excellent work,
which can be viewed on my web-site, that shows undercarriage shots of what
this guy is capable of making a car look like.  I would say that my only
complaint of his shop's services is that they are perfectionists (Look at my
engine pictures to see what I mean).  He takes a lot of time to work on cars
because he is not a regular street corner mechanic.  He deals with
restoration vehicles, which usually require a long amount of time to
fix/perfect.

I was sorry to hear about your bad experience with Paradise Andrew, but I
felt it only fair to give another view on this shop's work.

Regards,
Tamir
http://www.entermyworld.com





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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 00:26:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Pike <iqintermedia_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: DeLorean check blanks?

*****  Moderator's Note  *****
This will end the check discussion.  If you need
more information on VersaCheck, please contact
Michael or VersaCheck directly.
*****


Soma:

You must be psychic! :)

I did just that! :)

You need:

VersaCheck software (lets you print your own checks)
VersaCheck blank checks

both are available at your friendly neighborhood
Office Depot.

I made some of my car, but it takes some tweeking. 
You will need a decent graphics editing program to
adjust transparencies, etc - but it can be done.

If you want, email me privately with the photo you
want of your D, and I can make you the check template
then you can print them yourself.

VersaCheck is very cheap, a lot cheaper than buying
from your bank...

Mike

--- Soma576_at_dml_aol.com wrote:
> Hey guys,
> 
> i know this is a little off-topic, but i think
> others might find it 
> interesting too.
> i work in sales where i see probably a hundred
> checks written during my shift 
> when i do a deposit.  often times i see peoples'
> checks with a '69 mustang, a 
> '67 camero, etc on it.  
> 
> anyone know of a source for getting DeLorean check
> blanks???  it would make a 
> wonderful birthday present for myself (my B-Day is
> July 27th)!!!!!
> 
> maybe there is some software out there that someone
> can recommend to me that 
> will do the job? like i could scan a picture of my
> car, then put it on a 
> check template, and print them out on some special
> paper?
> 
> Thanks,
> Andy
> 
> Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
> 1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
> Fargo, ND 58102
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> 
> 
> 
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 07:31:23 -0000
From: iqintermedia_at_dml_yahoo.com
Subject: Air Vent Question

My airconditioning will freeze your butt off...

It only comes out of the doors though - for the life of me I can't 
get the heat or the air to come out the center console where it 
matters most....

Is this a known problem, or can anyone direct me where to look?

Thanks,
Mike
vIN855





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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 11:32:08 -0000
From: "Sacha Prins" <sacha_at_dml_prins.net>
Subject: Re: Rim replacement anyone?

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Tom Niemczewski" <tomcio_at_dml_j...> wrote:
> > I had the plan to put 16" front and 17" rear rims on the car
> > (instead of the standard 15" and 16") to make it look purdy, but
<SNIP>
> 
> Sacha, Original rims are 14" front and 15" rear.
>
> Tom Niemczewski

That's what I meant... I want to replace with 15" and 16" instead of
the standard 14" and 15". 16" and 17" might be an otion but I wonder
if there would be room for that and if that looks nice at all.

So far there is pretty little info on this subject. Probably because
not many people have their rims replaced. The only thing so far was
pointed out to me by a local owner:
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Street/3391/

However I'd love to know the offset values so that I can shop here
which would be more cost effective. Perhaps I'll give mr. Kay a call
to see what he is willing to share on this info.

Sacha






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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 12:03:10 -0000
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com
Subject: Re: DeLorean check blanks?

I've seen custom checks before where people can send in pictures, and 
the printing company can put them onto the checks. I saw one one time 
when a guy in front of me wrote a check out that had a picture of his 
BMW on it. The guy said he got the checks from a place called Kansas 
Bank Note Company. There on the web, and have complete details on 
their site for pricing.

http://www.kbnc.com/

-Robert
vin 6585



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Soma576_at_dml_a... wrote:
<SNIP>
> anyone know of a source for getting DeLorean check blanks???
<SNIP>




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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 22:11:21 -0500
From: "K Creason" <dmc4687_at_dml_mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: DeLorean check blanks?

Not sure... but I got a De Lorean credit card! what's in your wallet? :-)
(before everyone goes to Capitol Punish--er, One-- for a card, it was
nextcard.
You can upload any picture on your computer for your background)

----- Original Message -----
From: <Soma576_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 2:35 PM
Subject: [DML] DeLorean check blanks?


> Hey guys,
>
> i know this is a little off-topic, but i think others might find it
> interesting too.
> i work in sales where i see probably a hundred checks written during my
shift
> when i do a deposit.  often times i see peoples' checks with a '69
mustang, a
> '67 camero, etc on it.
>
> anyone know of a source for getting DeLorean check blanks???  it would
make a
> wonderful birthday present for myself (my B-Day is July 27th)!!!!!
>
> maybe there is some software out there that someone can recommend to me
that
> will do the job? like i could scan a picture of my car, then put it on a
> check template, and print them out on some special paper?
>
> Thanks,
> Andy
>
> Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
> 1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
> Fargo, ND 58102
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at:
> www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 08:50:17 -0400
From: "Eric J. Hennebury" <ehennebury_at_dml_performconsulting.com>
Subject: Re: D sighting: Roanoke TImes Article

Good article.  Just one question though (and I'm sure others will have the
same question).  The article states this gentleman's Delorean is "a
supercharged, stainless-steel, gull-wing sports car."  Obviously I'm
questioning the supercharged bit.  I'm assuming this is just an error on the
journalist's part, but if not, does anyone have any info on this particular
vehicle?

Eric
VIN 17065

> Subject: D sighting: Roanoke TImes Article
>
> For all the VA D owners, here is a sighting I saw in
> the Tidewater VA paper picked up from the Roanoke
> Times
> http://www.roanoke.com/roatimes/news/story115155.html





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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 14:06:40 -0000
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net
Subject: Re: Warning: Paradise Motorsport!

Any shop is only as good as it's worst mechanic on a bad day. You can 
have bad experiences anywhere. It is like restaurants, one time the 
service is good and the food is great and you go back with friends and 
you can't believe it's the same place! The true sign of a good place 
is how they deal with problems. In your case it seems they didn't 
handle it too well. I can only guess that the person who was 
knowledgeable on Deloreans just wasn't around to work on your car. 
This is no excuse for what happened to you just maybe a possible 
explanation. The work you required on your A/C could have been 
accomplished by any good automotive A/C shop (There is nothing unusual 
about the A/C in the Delorean).
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757




--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Tamir Ardon" <tamir_at_dml_e...> wrote:
> To Andrew and the DML,
> 
> I feel the need to respond to Andrew's post that discusses Paradise 
Motor
> Sport in Lombard, IL.  I was quite shocked to hear about his 
experience
> there, and I felt he may not have depicted the true picture of Lance 
and his
> store.  While I do not know the particulars about your specific 
experience
> Andrew, I have dealt with Paradise on many occasions with great 
success.
> Lance and his shop have worked on DeLoreans since the cars creation, 
and
> they have done wonderful things on my car over the last four years. 
 I know
> of others who have used their services, both DeLorean owners and 
other
> classic car owners that have had great results as well.
> 
> The work he has done on my car has ranged from replacing my clutch 
to the
> most minor of cosmetic improvements.  Each time he has done 
excellent work,
> which can be viewed on my web-site, that shows undercarriage shots 
of what
> this guy is capable of making a car look like.  I would say that my 
only
> complaint of his shop's services is that they are perfectionists 
(Look at my
> engine pictures to see what I mean).  He takes a lot of time to work 
on cars
> because he is not a regular street corner mechanic.  He deals with
> restoration vehicles, which usually require a long amount of time to
> fix/perfect.
> 
> I was sorry to hear about your bad experience with Paradise Andrew, 
but I
> felt it only fair to give another view on this shop's work.
> 
> Regards,
> Tamir
> http://www.entermyworld.com




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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 09:58:52 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu>
Subject: Re: Air Vent Question

iqintermedia_at_dml_yahoo.com wrote:

> My airconditioning will freeze your butt off...
>
> It only comes out of the doors though - for the life of me I can't
> get the heat or the air to come out the center console

[snip]

Your ducts are probably not properly connected to the back of your center
vents.

The vents are fed by soft rubber ducts behind the dashboard.  Sometimes,
especially when someone has worked inside the dash, the ducts slip off.
Because they are soft rubber they just sort of wilt and no air gets to the
vents.  You can tell when this happens because your air conditioner will be
blowing some cold air through your cassette deck.

The vent grilles snap out.  Will great patience (and long tools like screw
drivers) you can usually slip the rubber ducts back in place through the open
vents without disassembling the dashboard.  I fixed mine several years ago
and the problem has not recurred.

- Mike Substelny
VIN 01280
8 years




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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 12:50:18 EDT
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: R-12 recharge

Hello,
    A friend of myne was kind enough to let me use his 30lb tank of R-12.  My 
car sat untouched for 15 years so I am guessing the freon leaked out over 
that time.  The low pressure switch is tripped so I know there must be very 
little freon in the system.  I am bringing my car in on Friday morning to 
have it evacuated and recharged.  Are there any parts I should have replaced 
at this time?  or just see if it will hold a charge?  Please let me know ASAP 
so I can next day air them if I need them.

Thanks

David
#6286



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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 17:13:31 -0000
From: "David Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: Re: Locks (was New Owner)

This would be (in order of likelihood) a burned-out unlock solenoid 
on the passenger door, a bad relay in the lock control box (what 
happens when you try it from the passenger side??) a broken wire in 
the wiring loom between the body and the door, or a bad lock switch 
on the driver door.

Probably "Zilla-time", unless you are really handy rewinding 
solenoids and/or fixing small under-rated electronic circuits. 

Dave Swingle


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Mike Allred" <mallred_at_dml_r...> wrote:
> I've just purchased a 1981 DeLorean and have a few problems I hope 
someone can help me with.
> ---
> I also have a problem with the door locks. Both doors will lock 
with the key from the drivers side but the passenger side will not 
unlock when you unlock the driver side door.
> 





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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 14:59:24 -0000
From: delorean502_at_dml_excite.com
Subject: Mercedes C111

For those of you who love to see other Gullwinged cars, check out the 
Mercedes C111 Concept car.  It looks very much like a delorean.  
There are a couple good homepages for them out on the net, so check 
them out.  I uploaded a couple of pics to the Vault.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/files/Mercedes%20C111/

Erik




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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 11:36:02 -0400
From: Ed Garbade <garbadee_at_dml_bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: New Owner

Mike,
I had similar problems and did a major tuneup (can get a kit from DMC Houston, DMC Joe, PJ Grady, etc..).  This solved most of my problems in one shot and was well worth the time/money.

Of course the symptoms you speek of could be caused by several other items not the least of which could be bad fuel.

Good luck,
Ed Garbade
(another newbie)
vin 10541


Mike Allred wrote:

> I've just purchased a 1981 DeLorean and have a few problems I hope someone can help me with.
>
> When you first start the car it seems that it's starving for gas. It seems that it isn't even getting enough to allow it to pull off. You can push the gas pedal and it just won't respond.
>
> It also seems very sluggish in the lower gears until you reach about 2500-3000 RPM's. Once you get past 3000 RPM's in first it runs okay.
>
> I also have a problem with the door locks. Both doors will lock with the key from the drivers side but the passenger side will not unlock when you unlock the driver side door.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Mike
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 00:21:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Pike <iqintermedia_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Warning: Paradise Motorsport!

Sorry to hear of your bad experience.. this is EXACTLY
why I don't let anyone work on mine... only people I
would trust would be DMC Houston, DMCJoe, or PJ Grady,
unfortunately, none of them are close enough to me to
do that...

I've made an offer to DMCJoe to pay for his flight and
his time to come down and put a radiator on for me,
and install the fuel kit (dont need it yet, but while
he's here I figured I would have him fix it before it
breaks)... hopefully he will accept, but I know he is
busy.

I am no mechanic, but atleast I know I love my car, so
before I will take it anywhere, I will try to take a
crack at the fix myself.. so far, I've done several
things by myself, replaced the headlight switch,
replaced the brake pedal brake light switch, replaced
the alternator, put on DMCJoe's overheat protector,
and installed a Tankzilla.

I can only wish that everything was as simple as the
tankzilla.. the brake light switch took me almost 2
hours because I couldnt get the damn bolt off... I am
so mechanically "uninclined" it isnt funny... the
overheat protector and the tankzilla though, pieces of
cake.

I have a shop manual, and I think I could probably do
the radiator if I had to, but I wont even try the fuel
pump, I know my limits :)

I thought about taking it to other places, and
fortunately, most of them around here will admit they
don't know jack about a Delorean, but they said they
are willing to learn, and between the shop manual and
the excellent tech support for the D, they could
probably do it... but at the same time, they lack the
care I have for my car....

the one time I trusted it to someone else, I took the
day off from work to make sure it was taken care of
(this was when I had the Duce rebuilt)...

I didnt want some guy wearing 6 quarts of oil on his
pants to sit in my seats, and I didnt want my car to
become a shelf for tools... yeah it pissed them off,
but, I'm sorry, this car is too irreplacable for me to
leave it somewhere other than a place I know I can
trust.

I hope you do sue this Lance guy.... and I hope you
win.  Just get a signed statement from whoever you
bought the car from stating that whatever you had
worked when you got it.... your word against his in
court doesn't carry weight, but if you have a document
from the place you bought it from, that carries
clout...I won an insurance case that way, and we all
know what worms insurance companies are.

also - if you paid with a credit card, CHARGE IT
BACK... I never pay for anything with cash anymore,
because there are too many crooks out there... a bank
will side with you 99% of the time.

I would also prepare an invoice for your time that you
spent fixing the parts he broke (high beams, blinkers,
etc.)

And if all that fails, you'd be surprised what pulling
your Delorean out in front of his shop will do....
people will be attracted, (his customers), tell them
what he did to it, they will leave without hesitation.

TV stations also love a good juicy story (they usually
have investigative reporters that eat this stuff
up)... call them too.

You're a better man than me though, had I walked in
and seen my car disassembled, then got it home and
found it was messed up, there would have been an ass
whoopin' going on.

Mike



--- AJL521_at_dml_aol.com wrote:
> This message is for any Delorean owner in the
> chicagoland area,
> 



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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 18:42:36
From: "Ryan Foster" <westiething_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: finging light bulbs

Hello everyone,
I would like to thank you all for your suggestions on thoes pesky lights in 
the A/C panel.
I located the cheepest ones I could find from Electric City out of Syracuse, 
Ny. They were 90 cents each, min. of 10.
They were here in 2 days.
I tried to order them from the closest DeLorean Parts place but they didn't 
want to be bothered unless my order was ove $25.00 . What's that about?! Oh 
well they are in and work great! Thanks again!

                         Ryan- vin.#16301


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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 15:22:57 EDT
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Air Vent Question

In a message dated 7/24/01 1:39:32 PM Central Daylight Time, 
msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu writes:


> iqintermedia_at_dml_yahoo.com wrote:
> 
> > My airconditioning will freeze your butt off...
> >
> > It only comes out of the doors though - for the life of me I can't
> >


I just read an article in a DeLorean World about this problem written by DMC 
Joe, from about 1995 i believe. he said the problem was a faulty AC mode 
switch, IIRC.
Andy

Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102


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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 16:15:28 -0400
From: "Buckner, William" <William.Buckner_at_dml_pfizer.com>
Subject: RE: R-12 recharge

YES!

Replace the two shraeder (sp) valves.  That is where mine accumulated a
small leak.  They are very cheap (inexpensive)and the little rubber o-rings
wear out and let a little refrigerant out over time.  



Bill Buckner

Instrumentation Supervisor
Electrical and Instrument Dept.
Pfizer, Inc.
Global Manufacturing
Holland, MI Facility
   %   Phone:  616-392-2375  x-2449
 *   Fax:      616-392-8267
     *  Email:    william.buckner_at_dml_pfizer.com




-----Original Message-----
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com [mailto:Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 12:50 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] R-12 recharge


Hello,
    A friend of myne was kind enough to let me use his 30lb tank of R-12.
My 
car sat untouched for 15 years so I am guessing the freon leaked out over 
that time.  The low pressure switch is tripped so I know there must be very 
little freon in the system.  I am bringing my car in on Friday morning to 
have it evacuated and recharged.  Are there any parts I should have replaced

at this time?  or just see if it will hold a charge?  Please let me know
ASAP 
so I can next day air them if I need them.

Thanks

David
#6286


Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at:
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 20:21:39 -0000
From: "David Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: ADMIN:Mail delivery update

I started monitoring an admin list at yahooGroups - this was posted 
today (for all you AOL-ers that wonder where we were). This may 
explain the problem with some of the others as well, although they 
may or may not be fixed yet.

Dave Swingle

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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 10:43:40 -1000
From: "Dan RC30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Door Struts for sale

I have a set of Lift-O-Mat door struts I'm selling. They work perfectly. 
They are only about 2 years old. I'll take the highest fair offer. If offers 
are not good enough, they go on Ebay. :)

---Dan

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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 17:12:12 EDT
From: RJRavalli_at_dml_AOL.com
Subject: Modesto/Stockton area owners?

I have asked this before on the list but with the kind permission of
a moderator I would like to find out again just to check: Are there
any Northern California DeLorean owners out there in the Modesto/
Stockton area?  (Yes, I live in Modesto, and no, I did not vote for
Gary Condit.)  :)

Please e-mail if you are out there and would like to get together
to start a mini club or something,

Richard
Modesto, CA



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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 23:15:58 +0200
From: "Stian Birkeland" <delorean_at_dml_online.no>
Subject: Wiring for alarm/ignition/indicators

I'm installing an alarm in my DeLorean.

I need to splice a few wires to make it work. These are:
1) ignition
2) indicator lights

Which is the easiest way to do this?
Where is it wise to splice the ignition wire? ( I do want the car to start after I've messed with the ignition wire ;-) )

I guess the wires for the indicator lights could be spliced with the wires going from the dim/wiper switch. 
What color are these wires (the LH and RH indicators) ?

I have installed the alarm's electronic unit next to the ECU, and the alarm itself in the engine bay. I have drawn the needed wires through the center console, and they are ready to for access right under the steering wheel/ignition.
Is splicing recommended or will sugar cube connectors work better?

Best wishes :)

Stian Birkeland

VIN # 06759


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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 00:02:14 +0200
From: "Stian Birkeland" <delorean_at_dml_online.no>
Subject: Loose steering?

Hi,
I think my DeLorean has developed a loose steering...
I will try to describe it...

When I drive the car, it feels firm and strong, but at no/low speeds, for instance reversing and/or making a turn down a small hill, the steering feels loose, i.e. the steering wheel let go completely to either the left or right side. It moves as far as it can go to either side. 

If I'm reversing and for instance hits a bump in the road on the right side, the steering wheel moves to the left and vice versa. If I drive down a small hill and make a turn to the left, the steering will "let go" to the far left too.

What causes this...its rather annoying at low speeds...it feels sluggish...but a high speeds it handles perfectly.

I have replaced the steering wheel's u-joint + lower balljoints, but the problem is still there. Any suggestions?
What do I need to replace/adjust?

Best wishes :)
Stian Birkeland

VIN # 06759



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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 17:31:08 -0500
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: ADMIN Even More Mail info

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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 18:40:30 -0500
From: "K Creason" <dmc4687_at_dml_mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Air Vent Question

Also, and this really basic and you probably already checked but it's worth
mentioning, the vents have a thumbwheel on the side that close them off.
I leave my door vents pretty much closed off since they can't hit me in the
face or chest.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Substelny" <msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [DML] Air Vent Question


> iqintermedia_at_dml_yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > My airconditioning will freeze your butt off...
> >
> > It only comes out of the doors though - for the life of me I can't
> > get the heat or the air to come out the center console
>
> [snip]
>
> Your ducts are probably not properly connected to the back of your center
> vents.
>
> The vents are fed by soft rubber ducts behind the dashboard.  Sometimes,
> especially when someone has worked inside the dash, the ducts slip off.
> Because they are soft rubber they just sort of wilt and no air gets to the
> vents.  You can tell when this happens because your air conditioner will
be
> blowing some cold air through your cassette deck.
>
> The vent grilles snap out.  Will great patience (and long tools like screw
> drivers) you can usually slip the rubber ducts back in place through the
open
> vents without disassembling the dashboard.  I fixed mine several years ago
> and the problem has not recurred.
>
> - Mike Substelny
> VIN 01280
> 8 years
>
>
>
> Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at:
> www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html
>
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Message: 25
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 17:36:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Pike <iqintermedia_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Warning: Paradise Motorsport!

Your delorean looks nice, but no offense, anyone can
steam clean an engine and wash an oil pan up.... your
car is in excellent shape, don't get me wrong, but
I've met some great auto-detailers that are dumber
than rocks....

Andrew had real work to be done on his car, not just
cosmetics, and it seems as though they hosed it up
quite nicely.

Mike



--- Tamir Ardon <tamir_at_dml_entermyworld.com> wrote:
> To Andrew and the DML,
> 
> I feel the need to respond to Andrew's post that
> discusses Paradise Motor
> Sport in Lombard, IL.  I was quite shocked to hear
> about his experience
> there, and I felt he may not have depicted the true
> picture of Lance and his
> store.  > 
> The work he has done on my car has ranged from
> replacing my clutch to the
> most minor of cosmetic improvements.  Each time he
> has done excellent work,
> which can be viewed on my web-site, that shows
> undercarriage shots of what
> this guy is capable of making a car look like.  I
> would say that my only
> complaint of his shop's services is that they are
> perfectionists (Look at my
> engine pictures to see what I mean).  He takes a lot
> of time to work on cars
> because he is not a regular street corner mechanic. 
> He deals with
> restoration vehicles, which usually require a long
> amount of time to
> fix/perfect.
> 
> I was sorry to hear about your bad experience with
> Paradise Andrew, but I
> felt it only fair to give another view on this
> shop's work.
> 
> Regards,
> Tamir
> http://www.entermyworld.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Before posting messages or replies, see the posting
> policy rules at:
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> team, please address:
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> 
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> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
> 
> 


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