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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 644
Date: Thursday, July 26, 2001 5:06 AM

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There are 24 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Rim replacement anyone?
From: srubano_at_dml_optonline.com

2. Re: Warning: Paradise Motorsport!
From: srubano_at_dml_optonline.com

3. Whereabouts of David Howarath U.K.
From: senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com

4. Re: PRV 6
From: senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com

5. Re: Mercedes C111
From: senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com

6. Re: Warning: Paradise Motorsport!
From: "Tamir Ardon" <tamir_at_dml_entermyworld.com>

7. Classic car insurance
From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com>

8. Re: PRV 6
From: lovdmc12_at_dml_aol.com

9. Re: PRV 6
From: jimbo0946_at_dml_aol.com

10. Transmission Filter
From: Jason Pucci <jasonsdlo_at_dml_yahoo.com>

11. Engine Grumble
From: petleech_at_dml_aol.com

12. Re: PRV 6
From: "Kurt" <markurbec_at_dml_elroynet.com>

13. Terminology
From: Farrar <smeghead79_at_dml_home.com>

14. RE: Classic car insurance
From: "Buckner, William" <William.Buckner_at_dml_pfizer.com>

15. temp gauge problem
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

16. New Delorean Owner
From: Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin_at_dml_vantagep.com>

17. Re: Nylon tie wraps
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net>

18. Re: Terminology
From: "Sacha Prins" <sacha_at_dml_prins.net>

19. Re: Rim replacement anyone?
From: "Sacha Prins" <sacha_at_dml_prins.net>

20. Re: Nylon tie wraps
From: "Ralf Philipp" <doc.brown_at_dml_web.de>

21. Re: Nylon tie wraps
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com

22. Update PRV6
From: "Ryan Foster" <westiething_at_dml_hotmail.com>

23. Re: Rim replacement anyone?
From: "Dan RC30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>

24. tach fixed
From: "Cameron Putsch" <putsch.1_at_dml_osu.edu>





Message: 1
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 03:50:41 -0000
From: srubano_at_dml_optonline.com
Subject: Re: Rim replacement anyone?

Sacha,

Talk to Dan (DanRC30, on this list) he had replaced his rims with 
aftermarket ones. He custom made some spacers to fit behind the rims 
so that they fit perfectly on the car.

Steve

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Sacha Prins <sacha_at_dml_p...> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm considering putting new rims on my DeLorean. For that the rim-
shop
> needs some offset values for the new rims to fit that I and they
> probably don't know. I believe they call it a "t value" but I can be
> mistaken. I had the plan to put 16" front and 17" rear rims on the 
car
> (instead of the standard 15" and 16") to make it look purdy, but 
before
> I do that I was wondering if anyone on the list had experience 
replacing
> the standard rims with new ones, and if that so called "t value"
> (offset) is known so that I can tell the rim-shop people.
> 
> I will ofcourse keep the old standard rims in storage for 
originality.
> 
> If anyone can tell me more about this I will be much obliged. The 
Yahoo
> Groups search facility is not very helpful when searching for "rim" 
or
> "rims".
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Sacha
> 
> -- 
> #16187
> #17115




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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 03:47:36 -0000
From: srubano_at_dml_optonline.com
Subject: Re: Warning: Paradise Motorsport!

I have to agree.....car detailing is by far the easiest thing to 
do...diagnosing a problem is complicated. Any place that says it's 
one part, replaces it and then comes back to say that wasn't it but 
they think it's another part is not a good mechanic...they are doing 
what any non-mechanic person would do.....change all the parts until 
it works. A good mechanic diagnoses the problem...pinpoints it to a 
specific part that is causing it, replaces it and has it fixed the 
first time. The shop probably got to comfortable with Andrew agreeing 
to all the repairs they probably figured "What the hell.... we'll do 
one more thing to see if it works he's said yes to everything else".

Replacing a clutch is a no brainier with the right tools....you know 
the clutch is worn out so there is no guessing what part is bad and 
if you have a lift with a tranny jack...your in business.

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Michael Pike <iqintermedia_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> Your delorean looks nice, but no offense, anyone can
> steam clean an engine and wash an oil pan up.... your
> car is in excellent shape, don't get me wrong, but
> I've met some great auto-detailers that are dumber
> than rocks....
> 
> Andrew had real work to be done on his car, not just
> cosmetics, and it seems as though they hosed it up
> quite nicely.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> --- Tamir Ardon <tamir_at_dml_e...> wrote:
> > To Andrew and the DML,
> > 
> > I feel the need to respond to Andrew's post that
> > discusses Paradise Motor
> > Sport in Lombard, IL.  I was quite shocked to hear
> > about his experience
> > there, and I felt he may not have depicted the true
> > picture of Lance and his
> > store.  > 
> > The work he has done on my car has ranged from
> > replacing my clutch to the
> > most minor of cosmetic improvements.  Each time he
> > has done excellent work,
> > which can be viewed on my web-site, that shows
> > undercarriage shots of what
> > this guy is capable of making a car look like.  I
> > would say that my only
> > complaint of his shop's services is that they are
> > perfectionists (Look at my
> > engine pictures to see what I mean).  He takes a lot
> > of time to work on cars
> > because he is not a regular street corner mechanic. 
> > He deals with
> > restoration vehicles, which usually require a long
> > amount of time to
> > fix/perfect.
> > 
<SNIP> > 
> > Regards,
> > Tamir
> > http://www.entermyworld.com





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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 00:15:52 EDT
From: senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: Whereabouts of David Howarath U.K.

*****  Moderator's Note  *****
Please reply to Michael directly...
*****

Dear List,

    I would like to get in touch with a Mr. David Howarth of the United 
Kingdom. I have written snail & email with no successful reply. 
    I wanted to avoid using the DML as a source to reach Mr. Howarth.  I must 
share my experience with all of you since Mr. Howarth never shipped an item I 
prepaid for during the 1997 Eurofest!  He promised that he would send my 
DeLorean item to me,  however 4 years later no DeLorean item.
    If any of the list members have any contact with him, I would appreciate 
a return private email.

Sincerely,
Michael Pack



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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 00:37:59 EDT
From: senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: Re: PRV 6


1. Renault Alpine A310, turbo and normally aspirated.
2. Renault Alpine A610 Turbo
(Both are featured in the July issue of Classic and Thoroughbred Magazine.
3. Renault 30
4. Several Volvo cars, 260 and 760
5. Peugeot 604
6. Eagle Premier
7. DeLorean




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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 00:28:14 EDT
From: senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: Re: Mercedes C111

In a message dated 07/24/2001 2:42:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
delorean502_at_dml_excite.com writes:

<< Subj:     [DML] Mercedes C111
 Date:  07/24/2001 2:42:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time
 From:  delorean502_at_dml_excite.com
 Reply-to:  dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
 To:    dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
 
 For those of you who love to see other Gullwinged cars, check out the 
 Mercedes C111 Concept car.  It looks very much like a delorean.  
 There are a couple good homepages for them out on the net, so check 
 them out.  I uploaded a couple of pics to the Vault.
 
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/files/Mercedes%20C111/
 
 Erik


    The July issue of Classic and Thoroughbred cars has an extensive article 
on the car.
    When I was in Switzerland & Germany I made an appointment with the 
Mercedes History Museum to see the four or five that they have. They let me 
see one. The rest were unavailable.
    I explained to the engineer that I have a DeLorean. My PR rep., said the 
engineers at MB during the DMC saga say that JZD & Co. copied the C111 
concept.
    He then went on to point out some of the styling & engineering, general 
timeframe, marketing similarities, etc., etc.  There are several obvious 
similarites in my opinion.
    However when I asked him why he knew so much about the DeLorean 
automobile, the informal tour was immediately over!

Sincerely,
Michael 



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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 00:27:10 -0700
From: "Tamir Ardon" <tamir_at_dml_entermyworld.com>
Subject: Re: Warning: Paradise Motorsport!

*****  Moderator's Note  *****
This will be the last post regarding Paradise Motorsport unless
someone from Paradise wants to respond directly.  We have heard
of both good and bad experiences with the shop.  When dealing with
any repair facility make sure both sides understand any expectations
or limitations of any repair.  If you want parts back, say that, if
you want to be notified of any new things found while fixing something
else, say that.  If you have an upper price limit or a time deadline, 
let the shop know so there are no surprises.
*********** 

Mike,

I don't want to beat this subject up more than it needs to be, but once
again I need to add a comment or two in response to this recent Paradise
subject.  I don't just take my car to his shop to get a steam clean done to
my undercarriage.  If you go back to my site and check my maintenance
section for the last four years, you can see the variety of work he has done
on my car.  He has removed my transmission before, valve covers, dashboard,
muffler, crossover pipe, and many other mechanical parts of the DeLorean,
and he has put back everything in the correct place, in complete working
order, without harming other parts of the car.  I have been given all my old
parts back, and the car improves with every visit.  And if anyone knows me,
I love cleanliness, so I request cosmetic work that most other shops won't
do.  But like I said, he is a specialty/restoration place, not just a
regular shop.

And by the way, he has installed many twin-turbos on DeLoreans in the past.
He is even listed in the old/recent DeLorean World magazines as one of the
certified places in the US to get this kind of work done.  The man and his
shop can do it all, make no doubt of that.  Like I said before though, I
have no information on Andrew's specific case, I am only speaking from the
more than half a dozen times I have had my car at Paradise.

Regards,
Tamir
http://www.entermyworld.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Pike" <iqintermedia_at_dml_yahoo.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] Warning: Paradise Motorsport!


> Your delorean looks nice, but no offense, anyone can
> steam clean an engine and wash an oil pan up.... your
> car is in excellent shape, don't get me wrong, but
> I've met some great auto-detailers that are dumber
> than rocks....
>
> Andrew had real work to be done on his car, not just
> cosmetics, and it seems as though they hosed it up
> quite nicely.
>
> Mike





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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 01:53:39 -0400
From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Classic car insurance

Hey there,

I've decided to yet again bring up the whole insurance deal- I'm trying
to get rid of progressive because I just can't bear paying them for the
very short amount of time I actually spend IN my car... So I remembered
that classic/collector car insurance has better rates, even with a few
restrictions.  I've looked at a few, but it seems that the one's I've
looked at require that my 'collector' car needs to be garaged most of the
time.  Unfortunately, I don't have one readily accessible to me...
Its not like my car is going to rust outside, right? :)

Does anyone know of a collector insurance company that doesn't have
strict garaging requirements?

thanks

Jim 1537

(1537- actually running now, but won't idle under 2000rpm AT ALL.. The
electrical/fuel system seems to be working fully, though I need a new
accumulator.  The engine shakes a LOT while running.  How common is
mismatched injectors/ mismatched compression/ faultly fuel distributors?)
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 08:29:10 EDT
From: lovdmc12_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: PRV 6

The PRV is also found in the Peugeot 505.



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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 09:04:40 EDT
From: jimbo0946_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: PRV 6

I was looking up info about K&N filters for the DeLorean, but they do not make anything for it.  I was wondering, could we order an air filter or an intake system for one of the other cars with the PVR engine?  Or does the fact that our engine is in the back make a difference?  If we could, that would be a cheap easy way to add some horses.

JimmyC
VIN#15880



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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 06:24:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jason Pucci <jasonsdlo_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Transmission Filter

Does anyone know where I can get a transmission filter
for my '81 automatic?  I have tried all of the usual
places (e.g., PJ Grady is out of them, Delorean One
will only sell one as part of the major service
packet, DMC does not have any, etc.) but have not had
any success.

Thank you,

Jason, 7172
Summit, NJ

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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 09:26:19 EDT
From: petleech_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Engine Grumble

Does the Turbo DeLorean have a different engine note than a normal DeLorean? 
Does anyone have any sound clips or a description of what a Turbo or "new 
Stage 1 crate engine" sounds like?



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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 08:37:37 -0500
From: "Kurt" <markurbec_at_dml_elroynet.com>
Subject: Re: PRV 6

The engine is named so because of it's Peugeot, Renault, and Volovo
heritage. That is where it got the name P-R-V.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan Foster" <westiething_at_dml_hotmail.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 1:54 AM
Subject: [DML] PRV 6


> Hi list,
> I just have a quick question; What other cars were equip with the PRV 6
> Engine?
> Thanks so much!
>
>                          Ryan- vin.#16301
>
>
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 08:54:44 -0500
From: Farrar <smeghead79_at_dml_home.com>
Subject: Terminology

Sorry if I'm out of step here. I've been watching the discussion of 14
and 15 inch - versus - 15 and 16 inch. 

Are "rims" the same as "wheels"?

For that matter, are "wheel covers" what we used to call "hub caps"?

Not that it matters. I don't have my De yet. :\

Best of luck. Let me know if your oversized wheels fit. Heh!

Farrar Hudkins
New Orleans, LA



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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 10:19:01 -0400
From: "Buckner, William" <William.Buckner_at_dml_pfizer.com>
Subject: RE: Classic car insurance

Check Haggerty.



Bill Buckner

Instrumentation Supervisor
Electrical and Instrument Dept.
Pfizer, Inc.
Global Manufacturing
Holland, MI Facility
   %   Phone:  616-392-2375  x-2449
 *   Fax:      616-392-8267
     *  Email:    william.buckner_at_dml_pfizer.com




-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Strickland [mailto:ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 1:54 AM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Classic car insurance


Hey there,

I've decided to yet again bring up the whole insurance deal- I'm trying
to get rid of progressive because I just can't bear paying them for the
very short amount of time I actually spend IN my car... So I remembered
that classic/collector car insurance has better rates, even with a few
restrictions.  I've looked at a few, but it seems that the one's I've
looked at require that my 'collector' car needs to be garaged most of the
time.  Unfortunately, I don't have one readily accessible to me...
Its not like my car is going to rust outside, right? :)

Does anyone know of a collector insurance company that doesn't have
strict garaging requirements?

thanks

Jim 1537

(1537- actually running now, but won't idle under 2000rpm AT ALL.. The
electrical/fuel system seems to be working fully, though I need a new
accumulator.  The engine shakes a LOT while running.  How common is
mismatched injectors/ mismatched compression/ faultly fuel distributors?)
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 11:36:46 EDT
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: temp gauge problem

hey all,

i have a problem with my engine temp gauge - in that it doesn't work!
i have posted before about the problem, and here is the latest on the 
situation - i've done everything that everyone has suggested -

anyway, my temp gauge is stuck at the first tick.  it will not go up or down, 
and it won't move when you put the key in the ignition. it just says there.  
i replaced the temp sending unit - no luck.  i tried hitting the dash a 
little bit, didn't drop down. i used a paperclip to knock the needle down. it 
went down, but then when i put the key in the ignition, it went right back up 
to where it was before!!!

anyone have a good idea on what the problem is? the last things to check are, 
in my knowledge, replacing the gauge (last resort), or a wiring problem.  is 
there a way to bypass the stock wiring and just put a jumper between two 
points to prove whether or not i have a wiring problem?

thanks for any advice, as always!
Andy

Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102


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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 11:59:38 -0400
From: Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin_at_dml_vantagep.com>
Subject: New Delorean Owner

After 10 years of waiting I finally have it! I am VIN 3512. While the car as
a whole is better than I ever dreamed, this forum has been an excellent
service to me as I work out the minor bugs with the car.

I've been touching up the the paint on the side vents and I was wanting to
touch up the rims temporarily until I can get them blasted and repainted. I
was able to cross the satin black color to a PlastiKote spray color but I'm
a little wary of trying to guess on the rims. I found a cross to Ditzler,
but I don't know anyone who stocks it. Anybody had luck crossing to a more
accessible paint?

Thanks

Travis
#3512



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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 12:02:54 -0700
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net>
Subject: Re: Nylon tie wraps

Hi Ralf, in all fairness, in the D engine compartment, and in virtually all
other engine compartments you will find liberal use of nylon ties.  The D uses
quite a few, on mine, all are in great shape.  Can't argue that stainless is
superior to nylon but not in cost, flexibility, nor in ease of installation.
I'm suggesting that everyone carry a nylon tie or two, they daisy chain, just
like hose clamps (with enough of them you can hold  your windshield in place if
it falls off).  All I'm suggesting is that you spend a quarter and throw a strap
in your car, JIC.  My best afterthought, as mentioned, get two of the clips
(cost is $3.96 each), clip 'em both in place and enjoy how smart you are.  (Or
get one of those big ugly hose clamps, grind it to fit, and mess up the beauty
and symmetry of your engine compartment).  (Oops, should have left that line
out!)

Ralf Philipp wrote:

> Les!
>
> I would not recommend using a nylon tie wrap for such important fastening
> purposes.
>
> Nylon, also known as "Polyamide" is not resistant to weathering. It will get
> brittle and fail. Depending on the amount of weathering and the mechanical
> stress on the tie wrap, it may take some years till this happens, but when
> it happens, you wish you hadn't used it.
>
> Ralf.
>




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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 20:08:15 -0000
From: "Sacha Prins" <sacha_at_dml_prins.net>
Subject: Re: Terminology

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Farrar <smeghead79_at_dml_h...> wrote:
> Are "rims" the same as "wheels"?

A rim is the round metal thing that holds the tyre.

> For that matter, are "wheel covers" what we used to call "hub caps"?

I guess so.


Sacha





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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 20:39:48 -0000
From: "Sacha Prins" <sacha_at_dml_prins.net>
Subject: Re: Rim replacement anyone?

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., srubano_at_dml_o... wrote:
> Sacha,
> 
> Talk to Dan (DanRC30, on this list) he had replaced his rims with 
> aftermarket ones. He custom made some spacers to fit behind the rims 
> so that they fit perfectly on the car.

Will do, thanks.

I went to the rim-shop today to try to measure up the rims and to our
surprise there was a lot of info 'printed' on the inside of the
standard rim (even including production day). Hopefully this will make
it easier for them to find suitable rims.

We also talked about the spacers to make rims fit but they weren't too
enthousiastic about that. It is better (according to them) to make the
rim fit by adjusting the rim itself.

We'll see.

Sacha






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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 23:34:19 +0200
From: "Ralf Philipp" <doc.brown_at_dml_web.de>
Subject: Re: Nylon tie wraps


> Hi Ralf, in all fairness, in the D engine compartment, and in virtually
all
> other engine compartments you will find liberal use of nylon ties.  The D
uses
> quite a few, on mine, all are in great shape.

Les!

How can you be so sure that these are nylon wraps? Is it Nylon6? Is it
Nylon6.6? Is it glass fibre reinforced Nylon?
There are many different kinds of plastic materials. I assume that these
wraps in your engine compartment, that are still good and flexible after 20
years are simply not Nylon!

I for myself know why I don't use Nylon for outside applications. I use
plenty of them in inside applications (e.g. to bundle wires together for
better looks and tidiness). But I will  never use them again for
applications that are exposed to weathering. I did this once and they failed
after 2 years, because they were exposed to sunlight.
Admittedly, the amount of sunlight in the D engine compartment isn't that
big, but... better be safe than sorry.
May anyone decide for himself.

My 2 Euro-Cents  :-)

Ralf.
VIN10284




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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 23:03:35 -0000
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com
Subject: Re: Nylon tie wraps

*****  Moderator's Note  *****
This will end the tie wrap discussion.
*****

You really can't tell there's a clamp in place unless you are 
specificly looking for/at the otterstat. On the clamp I used, I 
didn't bother grinding it down, I simply strapped it into place. I 
reccomended grinding down the sides because it may be easier for some 
than to bend the connectors on the otterstat. Stainless clamp, or tie-
wrap, the choice is yours. But in either case, I think many will 
agree the best, safest solution is a wrap-around restraint for the 
otterstat, rather than the clip put on at the factory.

The tie-wraps used on my car are all in good shape, I must admit. But 
none are used in the same way as the clip on the otterstat is. The 
tie-wrap would be pushing against the pressure of the coolant in the 
pipe, not just holding 2 items together. But if the wrap is strong 
enough, I see no reason why it wouldn't work. Me, I'll stick with 
stainless. After all, it's lasted this long for the body panels. I 
guess in the end it's up to you which one you want to use. Don't 
worry though, no offence taken on my side :)

-Robert
vin 6585



<SNIP>
>My best afterthought, as mentioned, get two of the clips
> (cost is $3.96 each), clip 'em both in place and enjoy how smart 
you are.  (Or
> get one of those big ugly hose clamps, grind it to fit, and mess up 
the beauty
> and symmetry of your engine compartment).  (Oops, should have left 
that line
> out!)




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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 23:44:16
From: "Ryan Foster" <westiething_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Update PRV6

Hi List,
What are the years for these cars? (Approximately.)

1. Renault Alpine A310, turbo and normally aspirated.
2. Renault Alpine A610 Turbo
(Both are featured in the July issue of Classic and Thoroughbred Magazine.
3. Renault 30
4. Several Volvo cars, 260 and 760
5. Peugeot 604
6. Eagle Premier
7. DeLorean


                         Ryan- vin.#16301


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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 14:43:50 -1000
From: "Dan RC30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Rim replacement anyone?

Sacha,

You wanna see 16" & 17" wheels? Well check out this link.

http://24.189.72.26/dmc/

Click on the "scrap book" link, and then on "Dan D". That's my car, and I've 
had them on for about a year now with no ill effects. (I did all the 
conversions on my car myself.) And I drive my car. I guess I have about 8k 
miles on those new wheels and tires. I've also pushed it pretty hard in the 
turns too. No problems with clearance. The only thing I don't like is that 
it seems very easy to make the Pirelli P7000ss tires squeal. Maybe it's just 
me pushing the car hard in the turns, but I don't think so. I'll try another 
brand once I wear these out :).

---Dan





Message: 4
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 11:32:08 -0000
From: "Sacha Prins" <sacha_at_dml_prins.net>
Subject: Re: Rim replacement anyone?

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Tom Niemczewski" <tomcio_at_dml_j...> wrote:
> > I had the plan to put 16" front and 17" rear rims on the car
> > (instead of the standard 15" and 16") to make it look purdy, but
<SNIP>
>
>Sacha, Original rims are 14" front and 15" rear.
>
>Tom Niemczewski

That's what I meant... I want to replace with 15" and 16" instead of
the standard 14" and 15". 16" and 17" might be an otion but I wonder
if there would be room for that and if that looks nice at all.

So far there is pretty little info on this subject. Probably because
not many people have their rims replaced. The only thing so far was
pointed out to me by a local owner:
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Street/3391/

However I'd love to know the offset values so that I can shop here
which would be more cost effective. Perhaps I'll give mr. Kay a call
to see what he is willing to share on this info.

Sacha

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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 22:14:48 +0200
From: "Cameron Putsch" <putsch.1_at_dml_osu.edu>
Subject: tach fixed

For all of you that where following the "My tach is weird" saga, I bring you good news. I put in a new one and it works! Sometimes it really is the tach itself. And as far as my run in with the DMC1 guy about fixing my tach, I'm sure you can all guess where I'd like to stick my old tach.

Casey


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