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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 653
Date: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 11:15 PM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: I might be in trouble....
From: "David Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

2. Re: Re: Change of email address.
From: Bob Brandys <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com>

3. Re: I might be in trouble....
From: "Joseph Molino" <foxmul_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>

4. Re: anyone get their bras back from Colgan?
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com

5. Re: I might be in trouble....
From: "Jim Reeve" <ultra_at_dml_isd.net>

6. Re: Twin Turbo Delorean 4 sale
From: delorean502_at_dml_excite.com

7. Re: Twin Turbo Delorean 4 sale
From: delorean502_at_dml_excite.com

8. Re: Windshield washers
From: Mike Substelny <msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu>

9. Re: DeLorean on TV for an hour
From: "Richard W. Schauer" <rws_at_dml_enteract.com>

10. Torsion bar adjustment
From: Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin_at_dml_vantagep.com>

11. Re: DeLorean on TV for an hour
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

12. Re: Windshield washers
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

13. Re: I might be in trouble....
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

14. Re: GVWR discrepancy
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

15. Re: Using LED panel lights
From: "Jason Smith" <jake_at_dml_ragingbull.com>

16. 81 DeLorean for Sale
From: "Jonathan Lazar" <jxace_at_dml_adelphia.net>

17. Re: SS facias . . . need your help!
From: "Jason Smith" <jake_at_dml_ragingbull.com>

18. Re: I might be in trouble....
From: "Sacha Prins" <sacha_at_dml_prins.net>

19. Re: Re: I might be in trouble....
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

20. Re: Twin Turbo Delorean 4 sale
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com

21. Re: SS facias . . . need your help!
From: "skipper landry" <sk1pper_at_dml_intersurf.com>

22. Starter Motor
From: "Paul Salsbury" <paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com>

23. Re: Twin Turbo Delorean 4 sale
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com

24. Re: Using LED panel lights
From: "Mark Hershey" <dmcinfo_at_dml_thehersheys.com>

25. SS Fascias and headlights
From: delorean_pilot_at_dml_yahoo.com





Message: 1
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 02:51:04 -0000
From: "David Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: Re: I might be in trouble....

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Jack Stiefel" <stiefel_at_dml_m...> wrote:
A Whole Bunch of Stuff Leading up to:
 
> Inside the compartment, there had been a leak somewhere of coolent,  and a
> sound emmenating from what seems like the middle of the engine, of sizzling
> and puffing sounds.
> 
> I was thinking that maybe the water pump gave out, does seem logical??
> 
> Help!!! :)
> 
> Jack & Virginia Stiefel

Probably one of the two water hoses that come out of the back of the 
water pump. In a fit of wonderful humor by the design engineers, you 
have to remove the intake manifold to get to them. While your at it 
replace the waterpump anyway.

If the waterpump itself fails, the leak will appear to be coming from 
inside or just behind the pulley. If you look up from the ground you 
will see a hole in the casting where the water comes out when the 
seal fails.

If the water seems to be running out of the block, it is the hoses.

Look at http://www.dmcnews.com/Techsection/waterpumpDMC.html for a 
bunch of photos and other info if you want to get into it yourself.

Dave Swingle








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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 06:40:58 -0500
From: Bob Brandys <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Change of email address.

My e mail address has changed to bobb_at_dml_safety-epa.com

www.geocities.com/bobandgailscars/

Bob Brandys
97 DeLorean Time Machine


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:54:58 -0400
From: "Joseph Molino" <foxmul_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>
Subject: Re: I might be in trouble....

are the belts tight?  Sounds like both belts are loose.  That might give you
the squealing sound and the intermittent problems.  If the pump gave out, I
don't think it would affect the alternator but I could be wrong.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Stiefel" <stiefel_at_dml_minalco.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 10:17 PM
Subject: [DML] I might be in trouble....


> It is  abit late to call Rob Grady, so I decided to throw this out to the
> list.  I haven't run my D for a few weeks due to a fundraiser I was having
> at my home and the need to prepare for 150 people.  Today I had a cruise
in
> about an hour from home and decided to bring out the ol girl and have a
> drive.  Well it ran fine until I got to my parents house.  I let it run a
> bit while I talked to my father, and it overheated a bit.  Only a very
> little bit came out before I shut down the engine and let it cool off.
> After a bit, I started it up and it ran fine, but was a bit on the hot
side
> all the way to a stereo shop I had to stop at on the way to the show.
There
> I let it cool off again and filled up the resevour -- it took quite a lot.
>
> It ran just fine all the way to the cruise in and on the way home it got
hot
> a few times, but cooled off ok until about 15 min from home when it
started
> acting real funny.
>
> 1st off it would almost reach the 1st red hash mark on the temp gauge,
then
> the volts would drop to almost 8 or 9, then we heard a squeel from the
> engine and the volts would come back up.  SOmetimes the temp went back
down
> and sometimes it didn't.
>
> Well not wanting to let the temps get real high, I decided to run a bit,
> then shut down the engine and coast.  We did this for about the last 3
miles
> home.  I was then able to take a look at the engine.
>
> Inside the compartment, there had been a leak somewhere of coolent, and a
> sound emmenating from what seems like the middle of the engine, of
sizzling
> and puffing sounds.
>
> I was thinking that maybe the water pump gave out, does seem logical??
>
> Help!!! :)
>
> Jack & Virginia Stiefel
> '81 DeLorean Vin 03461 Aug.1981 NYS Lic:1981 DMC
> '97 Red BMW Z3 Convertible 6 cyl, not the baby 4
> '99 Ford Expedition 4x4 Eddie Bauer Edition
> '01 Black PT Cruiser Limited w/Flames
> Visit us at www.sacketmansion.com
>
>
>
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> www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html
>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:00:05 EDT
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: anyone get their bras back from Colgan?

In a message dated 7/31/01 10:41:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dherv10_at_dml_aol.com 
writes:


> Colgan was waiting to get them all back so they could run the batch all 
> at one time. I sent back 4 to be redone. Should be next week or so.
> 

That's what they told me.  I talked to them about a week ago, and they hoped 
to have them done by the end of last week.  Ours is such a small run order, 
they couldn't stop and go with each one that came in.
For those wondering what this is about, this year's limited edition run of 
Colgan Custom nose bras mistakenly came through without the word De Lorean 
embossed on the front.  Colgan has taken them back for embossing.  We should 
see them any time now

-Wayne A. Ernst
vin 11174.    


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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 04:11:45 -0000
From: "Jim Reeve" <ultra_at_dml_isd.net>
Subject: Re: I might be in trouble....

I dont know what a failing water pump sounds like (could actually be 
several different sounds), but I am personally 90% sure your problem 
is with the pump.  The reason for the drop in volts and the squealing 
was the pump probably seazing up, thus causing strain on the 
alternator belt, dropping the volts.  When the pump freed up again, 
the alternator was able to turn again.  I would definately replace the 
water pump, or at least remove the intake manifold and inspect the 
condition of the rubber hoses on the y-pipe and the heater line.  I 
replaced my original water pump this spring.  Nothing was wrong with 
the old one, I just didn't want to take the chance of somthing like 
this happening while I'm out on my usual drives.  I'm sorry that this 
had to happen.

Jim Reeve
MNDMC - Minnesota DeLorean Club
DMC-6960

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Jack Stiefel" <stiefel_at_dml_m...> wrote:
> It is  abit late to call Rob Grady, so I decided to throw this out 
to the
> list.  I haven't run my D for a few weeks due to a fundraiser I was 
having
> at my home and the need to prepare for 150 people.  Today I had a 
cruise in
> about an hour from home and decided to bring out the ol girl and 
have a
> drive.  Well it ran fine until I got to my parents house.  I let it 
run a
> bit while I talked to my father, and it overheated a bit.  Only a 
very
> little bit came out before I shut down the engine and let it cool 
off.
> After a bit, I started it up and it ran fine, but was a bit on the 
hot side
> all the way to a stereo shop I had to stop at on the way to the 
show.  There
> I let it cool off again and filled up the resevour -- it took quite 
a lot.
> 
> It ran just fine all the way to the cruise in and on the way home it 
got hot
> a few times, but cooled off ok until about 15 min from home when it 
started
> acting real funny.
> 
> 1st off it would almost reach the 1st red hash mark on the temp 
gauge, then
> the volts would drop to almost 8 or 9, then we heard a squeel from 
the
> engine and the volts would come back up.  SOmetimes the temp went 
back down
> and sometimes it didn't.
> 
> Well not wanting to let the temps get real high, I decided to run a 
bit,
> then shut down the engine and coast.  We did this for about the last 
3 miles
> home.  I was then able to take a look at the engine.
> 
> Inside the compartment, there had been a leak somewhere of coolent, 
and a
> sound emmenating from what seems like the middle of the engine, of 
sizzling
> and puffing sounds.
> 
> I was thinking that maybe the water pump gave out, does seem 
logical??
> 
> Help!!! :)
> 
> Jack & Virginia Stiefel
> '81 DeLorean Vin 03461 Aug.1981 NYS Lic:1981 DMC
> '97 Red BMW Z3 Convertible 6 cyl, not the baby 4
> '99 Ford Expedition 4x4 Eddie Bauer Edition
> '01 Black PT Cruiser Limited w/Flames
> Visit us at www.sacketmansion.com




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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 12:35:08 -0000
From: delorean502_at_dml_excite.com
Subject: Re: Twin Turbo Delorean 4 sale

I am scheduling a meeting with Dan Pfieffer this week.  I will ask 
him how 9,000 got on it.  It states that the car was a demo car.  I'm 
assuming this is to promote the twin turbo add-on (NOT Legend).  Dan 
Pfieffer was a HUGE delorean dealership.  They still do body work and 
are really good at it.  I've heard rumors that he still has around 5 
untitled deloreans in storage with plastic on the seats, but I don't 
have any solid info on that.  I will ask him when i talk to him.

erik

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., E Grauff <datamonk_at_dml_s...> wrote:
> Sounds pretty interesting - so did he use dealer plates to rack up 
9000
> miles w/o title?
> 
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2001 delorean502_at_dml_e... wrote:
> 
> > There is a Twin Turbo Delorean for sale at a place called Dan
> > Pfieffer here in Grand Rapids, Michigan.  It is posted on ebay 
right
> > now.  I live 5 minutes from Dan Pfieffer and I will be checking 
this
> > out sometime this week.  The car has never been titled and only 
has
> > 9,000 on the clock.  If anyone is seriously interested in this, I
> > will help you out as best I can to get info.
> >
> > Erik




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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 12:42:00 -0000
From: delorean502_at_dml_excite.com
Subject: Re: Twin Turbo Delorean 4 sale

when you consider that DMC Houston sells refurbished deloreans for 
the same price, and D-1 "sells" them for $62,000....paying $30K for a 
delorean that has never been titled AND is a turbo isn't that 
bad...if you can afford it.  

erik

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Louie Golden <louie_at_dml_d...> wrote:
> this reads to be a nice car. but isn't it a little over priced, 
though? the starting bid is almost $29,000.... i've seen the ads for 
twin turbo kits in D world, what do they run price wise anyways? and 
what about performance, i've seen they slice 0-60 times to the 5 
second range, but what are they good for as far as horsepower and 
torque? i have always been interested in this upgrade, and hope to 
install it on a DeLorean when i buy one (which i am hoping to have 
one in time for memphis!). thanks! -Louie
> 
> _____________________________________________________________
> Visit the De Lorean Motor Company web site at 
http://www.delorean.com to register for our Open House to be held 
August 10-12, 2001 in Houston, Texas! Don't miss it!




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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 09:53:17 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu>
Subject: Re: Windshield washers

nickbrom_at_dml_aol.com wrote:

> Question: In the parts manaul, it looks as though there is only one
> washer nozzle. Is this true?

Yes, there is one washer nozzle.


> And what can you folks tell me about the
> mounting of the tubing and nozzle?

The end of the tube is mounted in the middle of the passenger side wiper.  As
the wiper wipes, the sprat nozzle moves.  You get coverage of anywhere on the
windshield that way.

- Mike Substelny
VIN 01280, 8 years




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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:52:23 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Richard W. Schauer" <rws_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: Re: DeLorean on TV for an hour

On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Michael Pike wrote:

> Wife called me, said there was a Delorean show,
> talking about the car and JZD for a whole hour!

This sounds suspiciously like the History Channel's "Great Blunders in
History: The DeLorean Car" that they re-run from time to time.  It's been
out for a few years.  Do a search for 'delorean' on www.historychannel.com
and see when it'll be on again.  BTW, it runs half an hour.

I have the entirety of this show transcribed and available on my website
at: http://www.enteract.com/~rws/delorean.txt

Richard Schauer
#4411





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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:05:38 -0400
From: Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin_at_dml_vantagep.com>
Subject: Torsion bar adjustment

Yes, I did it, but I don't think I did it enough. Here's how I did it should
others be so brave: First I tested the door with a strut I knew that was
good (it was on the passenger side). Once I had access to the bracket, I put
a 2x6, a 2x4 and a standard size brick (for friction) across the back just
below the window. Using a ratchet, 6" extension bar, and a 3/8" hex socket I
attached it to the end of the torsion bar and placed the ratchet on the
brick so when the bolts were removed, the bar wouldn't pop. With struts off
and my my assistant holding the door open, I unbolted the bracket. There was
a bit of a twist once it came off, but nothing popped. The rough serface of
the brick kpt everything from shifting. I pulled the bracket towards me onto
the socket and turned it one notch (I had my original position marked with a
Sharpie). I put the bracket back and with a little struggling, I was able to
get the bracket lined back up and get the bolts back in. Voila! No broken
window!

The door is certainly better than it was. Before I had to lift it myself.
Now, when I throw the handle, it risesalmost all the way but needs a little
help getting those last few inches. Would this be considered acceptable or
should I go one more notch? My only concern would be over-stressing the bar
and shortening its life span.

PS. I'm going to investiage the fan problem tonite. Thanks for all the tips!



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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:11:06 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: DeLorean on TV for an hour

The only one hour television program devoted to the DeLorean is "The DeLorean Car" episode on "True Hollywood Story" produced by Gary Simson for the E Channel. There is only a short mention and one concept drawing of the new DeLorean proposed when the program was in production.

DMC Joe
DMC.tv
"We're here to help you"
DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael Pike 
  To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 7:15 PM
  Subject: [DML] DeLorean on TV for an hour


  Wife called me, said there was a Delorean show,
  talking about the car and JZD for a whole hour!

  She didnt call me until it was over! (ACK!).

  Does anyone know what this is, and when it will be on
  again?

  She said it had tons of info, and photos of the new
  Delorean he wants to get in production.

  I've never seen it before,
  thanks,
  mike








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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:38:26 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Windshield washers

Yes; there is just one washer nozzle (wiper arm jet).

The windshield washer nozzle connection is relatively simple. A rubber hose (105965) connects from the bulkhead fitting (108250) through the pipe retainer extrusion (108035) along the right hand wiper arm. The hose than connects to the wiper arm jet (100806). 

DMC Joe
DMC.tv
"We're here to help you"
DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: nickbrom_at_dml_aol.com 
  To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 12:43 AM
  Subject: [DML] Windshield washers


  For the first time since purchasing my Delorean, I hit the "washer" 
  button. Much to my suprise, I got a single spray of fluid straight up 
  in the air in the middle of the windshield.

  Question: In the parts manaul, it looks as though there is only one 
  washer nozzle. Is this true? And what can you folks tell me about the 
  mounting of the tubing and nozzle? I have ordered the parts I need (I 
  think), but I'm not sure of the installation since I have no other 
  d's to reference to.

  Thanks!

  Nick
  VIN 3092








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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 11:10:06 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: I might be in trouble....

Jack,

My fist quest to you is, do you have an Overheat Protector installed in your cooling system. The squealing noise is coming from your alternator belt, re-tighten it. The sizzling and puffing sounds are coming from a coolant leak at one of the two rear water pump hoses. 


DMC Joe
DMC.tv
"We're here to help you"
DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jack Stiefel 
  To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 10:17 PM
  Subject: [DML] I might be in trouble....


  It is  abit late to call Rob Grady, so I decided to throw this out to the
  list.  I haven't run my D for a few weeks due to a fundraiser I was having
  at my home and the need to prepare for 150 people.  Today I had a cruise in
  about an hour from home and decided to bring out the ol girl and have a
  drive.  Well it ran fine until I got to my parents house.  I let it run a
  bit while I talked to my father, and it overheated a bit.  Only a very
  little bit came out before I shut down the engine and let it cool off.
  After a bit, I started it up and it ran fine, but was a bit on the hot side
  all the way to a stereo shop I had to stop at on the way to the show.  There
  I let it cool off again and filled up the resevour -- it took quite a lot.

  It ran just fine all the way to the cruise in and on the way home it got hot
  a few times, but cooled off ok until about 15 min from home when it started
  acting real funny.

  1st off it would almost reach the 1st red hash mark on the temp gauge, then
  the volts would drop to almost 8 or 9, then we heard a squeel from the
  engine and the volts would come back up.  SOmetimes the temp went back down
  and sometimes it didn't.

  Well not wanting to let the temps get real high, I decided to run a bit,
  then shut down the engine and coast.  We did this for about the last 3 miles
  home.  I was then able to take a look at the engine.

  Inside the compartment, there had been a leak somewhere of coolent, and a
  sound emmenating from what seems like the middle of the engine, of sizzling
  and puffing sounds.

  I was thinking that maybe the water pump gave out, does seem logical??

  Help!!! :)

  Jack & Virginia Stiefel
  '81 DeLorean Vin 03461 Aug.1981 NYS Lic:1981 DMC
  '97 Red BMW Z3 Convertible 6 cyl, not the baby 4
  '99 Ford Expedition 4x4 Eddie Bauer Edition
  '01 Black PT Cruiser Limited w/Flames
  Visit us at www.sacketmansion.com






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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:51:11 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: GVWR discrepancy

You asked:

"So, does gross vehicle weight include passengers? " 


Yes; here is the official description of GVW: Gross Vehicle Weight. Total weight of vehicle including vehicle passengers, load, etc. (GVW minus vehicle curb weight equals payload).

DMC Joe
DMC.tv
"We're here to help you"
DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dick Ryan 
  To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 6:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [DML] GVWR discrepancy



  --- Joshieloo_at_dml_aol.com wrote:
   GVWR
  > of the two '81's were 
  > listed at 3,180# and the '83 was listed at 3,244#.
  > Has anyone ever noticed this before. More
  > importantly, is there an 
  > explanation as to the additional 64#'s for the '83?
  - - - - - - - - -
  One of the joys(?) of DeLorean ownership is trying to
  determine accurate statistics about the car.  My 83
  shows 3244# gross vehicle weight.  The owners manual
  that came with my 81 shows a "curb weight w/full fuel
  tank" of 2743 lbs.  So, does gross vehicle wieght
  include passengers?  Two 200 lb. passengers?????

  Dick Ryan
  VIN 16867




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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 11:12:08 -0400
From: "Jason Smith" <jake_at_dml_ragingbull.com>
Subject: Re: Using LED panel lights

how much for you to start building these for the group?

jake

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Hershey" <dmcinfo_at_dml_thehersheys.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 2:38 AM
Subject: [DML] Using LED panel lights


> I converted my dash panel lamps over to LEDs two years ago. Installation
is
> completely reversable. Made a tin plate that exactly matches the outline
of
> the back of the Plexiglas panel, punched big holes to clear the headlight
> and emergency switches and various small holes to clear switch shafts,
etc,
> and punched about 20 1/4 inch holes to mount LEDs scattered about for even
> lighting. Used a ring of red ones around part of the A/C temp dial, blue
> ones around the dial's blue part, and white scattered around elsewhere.
Used
> 560 ohm series resistors (I think) to drop voltage and a Radio Shack 5V
> regulator IC (drops 12-14 VDC to constant 5VDC) to feed the LEDs. Just
> removed and saved the original lamps.
>
> Effect is striking...
> Now I'm thinking a good winter project is to add 1/8" diameter flourescent
> light in the gauge cluster (above  the upper light "vents" for more white
> light on the gauge faces. These are the same 6-9" or so long lamps used to
> backlight laptop computer screens. Requires an inverter module; cost about
> $5 for the lamp and $8-12 for the inverter.
>
>
>
> //Mark
>
>
>
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 11:31:50 -0400
From: "Jonathan Lazar" <jxace_at_dml_adelphia.net>
Subject: 81 DeLorean for Sale

I am selling my beloved 1981 DeLorean for the sake of my college education.

Here are the quick details:

1981
VIN# 004494
Gray Interior
5 Speed
Great condition
asking $17,000.00
Will make an excellent daily driver.

For a more in depth and detail description with pictures, visit:

http://home.adelphia.net/~jxace/

You will find my contact information on the web site.

Thanks





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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 11:43:24 -0400
From: "Jason Smith" <jake_at_dml_ragingbull.com>
Subject: Re: SS facias . . . need your help!

i think it would really come down to how they look - if they are not the
same do they look GOOD, can you send some pictures when available?

jake

----- Original Message -----
From: <sk1pper_at_dml_sk1pper.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 11:45 PM
Subject: [DML] SS facias . . . need your help!


> It's me again. No, i didn't fall off the earth, just had a lot to do
> lately. I've recently moved, and am just now getting settled in. My
> web page has become a casualty of neglect as of this too. BUT now
> that things seem to be settling down, the car beacons!
>
> A lot has happened with Darren, my fabricator. He has finally gotten
> his new machines in and already has my two facias to make templates.
> He is planning on making a test pattern out of light steel to get the
> final product a working model, however, there is a fork in the road-
> cost vs. accuracy.
>
> I personally will do this project even if no one else does so i'm
> leaning toward accuracy, but, i'm not Bill Gates either! His
> origional idea is still the same as the beginning. to keep the costs
> down (estimates remain within 50% of the plastic/rubber ones) they
> will be "respectable representations" not perfect copies. He says
> they will be very close, but not exact.
>
> Quick pool to all that are truly interested in getting these SS
> facias: (aside from the obvious "at least make them look like a
> DeLorean piece" which is the goal)
>
> What would be the best?
>
> 1. exact copies no matter what the cost.
> 2. really good  to the point that you would have to pull another
> DeLorean next to it to tell the differences at a price that will more
> that likely be around 50% more than replacements. (my choice)
> 3. as good as it can for the same price as replacements.
>
> I cannot go any farther in this until I get feedback from those that
> may be effected by this choice (i think it only fair those wanting
> these have a say). Let me know asap so this won't grind to a halt!
>
> skipper landry
> baton rouge,la.
> vin #10246
>
> (if your going to be near here on Saturdays, let me know, then stop
> by!)
>
>
>
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>




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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 15:50:53 -0000
From: "Sacha Prins" <sacha_at_dml_prins.net>
Subject: Re: I might be in trouble....

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Jack Stiefel" <stiefel_at_dml_m...> wrote:
> It is  abit late to call Rob Grady,

For one It's never too late to call mr. Grady (unless your car is on
fire).

> [...]
>
> I was thinking that maybe the water pump gave out, does seem logical??
> 
> Help!!! :)

No need to worry as of yet.
You probably have a leak in your coolant line, and the coolant leaks
on the hot engine or exhaust pipe that causes the sizzling and stuff.
The voltage thing and the squeel in the engine compartment could be
caused by the alternator belt slipping because it was either wet or
not tight or both. When the alternator doesn't cycle you are powered
by the battery which when everything is running might give around 9 volts.

The first thing to do is find the leak (with a pressure test) when the
engine is cold. A shop should be able to so this as a routine. When
the leak is fixed, fill the system, bleed the waterpump and go for it.
You might want to check the tightness of the different belts.

Chances are that the problem is then solved. And if not then check
back here :)

Sacha






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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:13:30 EDT
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: I might be in trouble....

J & V, Yes that seems logical, since underneath the intake manifold is a 
water pipe coming off the back of the pump and going underneath the intake 
and going to the back of the engine. There are three rubber hoses and a 
couple of rubber o rings to make the seal. You can see a picture of the pipe 
on the web site at http://www.specialtauto.com/engine.shtml. 
John hervey



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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:31:40 EDT
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Twin Turbo Delorean 4 sale

Hello,
    I went to the 28th St. Dan Pfieffer dealership today and saw the D that 
is sitting in the showroom.  The D in the picture is not the twin turbo but a 
VERY nice DeLorean.  I was very surprised when I recognized the vin #.  This 
car was previously owned by a gentlemen who collects Ferraris here in 
Rockford Michigan.  I went to check it out last year when he had it for sale. 
 I guess Dan purchased it.  That car has around 15k miles and they are asking 
$18,500 OBO.  it is an exceptionally nice car with no flaws.
    Dan Pfiefer himself wasn't around so I did not get a chance to go out 
back where he kept the twin turbo D.  The salesmen said that when Delores 
went under they were selling Delores for so cheap that Mr. Pfizer purchased a 
large quantity and continued to sell them for a while.  He said he had almost 
300 all together.  Is that possible?

just wanted to let you know that there are 2 for sale

David
6286





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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:50:19 -0500
From: "skipper landry" <sk1pper_at_dml_intersurf.com>
Subject: Re: SS facias . . . need your help!

i plan to get a LOT of pictures when he dryfits them on.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jason Smith <jake_at_dml_ragingbull.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [DML] SS facias . . . need your help!


> i think it would really come down to how they look - if they are not the
> same do they look GOOD, can you send some pictures when available?





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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 22:06:58 +0100
From: "Paul Salsbury" <paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com>
Subject: Starter Motor

Hi All!!

Can anyone please tell me what the UK parts cross reference part is for a starter motor??

Will a volvo 760 fit the bill??

Cheers
Paul

Vin 6463


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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 20:20:20 -0000
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com
Subject: Re: Twin Turbo Delorean 4 sale

Comparing a car like this to one from either DMC Houston or D-1 is 
kinda apples to oranges. Honestly, I have never seen a car by either 
service center in person. But from what I have read on both companies 
web sites, they either rebuild or refurbish a DeLorean specificly for 
the customer commisioning the work. Now leaving their competative 
prices out of this, I don't see where this twin turbo is a good buy. 
It's a demo car w/9K+ miles. Demo cars are usually driven by people 
who are looking to buy a particular car, and want to drive one of 
that type first. That also means they can be abused because people 
who drive them don't usually care. Now I'm not saying this car is 
nessisarily this way, because I don't know a thing about it's 
history, let alone it's current physical condition. I am however 
basing that asumption on my past dealings with buying a demo car 
(differant make). Yes this car is almost the same price as one from 
DMC Houston, but it doesn't come with a warranty.

I also don't see how the vehicle never being titled should add to 
it's value. In storage since new, up on blocks, never driven, plastic 
on seats, all docutmentation verbaly and on paper? In THAT case, 
sure, then I would say this would be a steal price. But, never 
titled, 9K+ miles, possibly driven by many people? Doesn't sound 
right. The big question here is why was this car never titled? Since 
this car has seen pavement a few times, and is/was used as a demo, it 
can't be to keep it in original condition. Perhaps after getting twin 
turbos installed, the car couldn't pass emissions testing, so 
slapping a dealer plate on it to avoid testing was the only way to 
keep it "leagaly" on the road.

Just a thought...

-Robert
vin 6585



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., delorean502_at_dml_e... wrote:
> when you consider that DMC Houston sells refurbished deloreans for 
> the same price, and D-1 "sells" them for $62,000....paying $30K for 
a 
> delorean that has never been titled AND is a turbo isn't that 
> bad...if you can afford it.  
> 
> erik




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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:20:46 -0500
From: "Mark Hershey" <dmcinfo_at_dml_thehersheys.com>
Subject: Re: Using LED panel lights

Jason Smith asked..


> how much for you to start building these [LED console assemblies] for the
group?
>
Oh, gosh, I wish I had time to work on anything Delorean related....five
cars....two teenagers...maybe someday :-)

Could be talked into taking and uploading pics, though....

//Mark




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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 23:50:22 -0000
From: delorean_pilot_at_dml_yahoo.com
Subject: SS Fascias and headlights

Any chance you will be peoviding room to install an updated lighting 
system with your new fascias?




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