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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 667
Date: Saturday, August 11, 2001 7:23 AM

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There are 24 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Sunstar 1/18th Scale Delorean
From: P12C16_at_dml_aol.com

2. Re: P-R-V 1-2-3
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com

3. Re: P-R-V 1-2-3
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net

4. Low profile subs
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com

5. Re: Detomaso Pantera ...gullwing?
From: RJRavalli_at_dml_AOL.com

6. Re: Turbo DeLorean
From: "Sacha Prins" <sacha_at_dml_prins.net>

7. Re: Delorean documents on ebay..
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com

8. Re: Turbo DeLorean
From: "Donald Ekhoff" <ekhoff_at_dml_seagullsolutions.net>

9. Re: Detomaso Pantera ...gullwing?
From: senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com

10. Re: Turbo DeLorean
From: johndmc57_at_dml_yahoo.com

11. Re: very high idle
From: 88mph_at_dml_delorean.com

12. Re: Odd AC cycling
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

13. More on Pantera gullwing...
From: RJRavalli_at_dml_AOL.com

14. Re: Re: P-R-V 1-2-3
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

15. A/C mode switch voltage problem
From: "Jonathan Lazar" <jxace_at_dml_adelphia.net>

16. Re: Odd AC cycling
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

17. Re: Low profile subs
From: johndmc57_at_dml_yahoo.com

18. Re: very high idle
From: Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>

19. Re: Re: very high idle
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

20. Re: Re: motor oil and gas - recommended?
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

21. Re: More on Pantera gullwing...
From: delorean502_at_dml_excite.com

22. Re: Re: motor oil and gas - recommended?
From: William T Wilson <fluffy_at_dml_snurgle.org>

23. Re: motor oil and gas - recommended?
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net

24. AC problem
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 22:31:47 EDT
From: P12C16_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Sunstar 1/18th Scale Delorean

***** Moderator's Note *****
Stores can't sell them until SunStar produces them.  The best place
for information regarding the model is SunStar.



Hello List, 
I called a local HobbyTown USA today and inquired about the model.  They 
carry all the sunstar 1/18th Scale cars, but the employee could find nothing 
about the DeLorean.  He knew what the real car looked like, and checked the 
computer and the shelves.  He could not find a thing.  If anyone else finds a 
store selling them , please post it.  Thanks

Patrick     Not yet living the dream



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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 22:57:12 EDT
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: P-R-V 1-2-3

You are pretty much right, except for the Corvette theory- taken from the 
December 1981 issue of Car and Driver.
The Corvette itself had a horrible engine. The DeLorean was "underpowered," 
but think of it this way:
The Corvette had 190 horsepower and 280 lbs-ft of torque.In the 80's, that 
was respectable for a sports car. But look at the engine size. 350 cubic 
inches?!?! That means .54 horse and .8 lbs-ft per cubic inch. Not great, GM.
The DeLorean has 130 horsepower and 160 lbs-ft of torque, Car and Driver 
said. With 174 cubic inches, the DeLorean has .74 horse and .91 lbs-ft per 
cubic inch. 
The Corvette accelerated 2.3 seconds faster, due to the extra power.

Just another way to look at it.

John Feldman
VIN 4275


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 03:53:59 -0000
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net
Subject: Re: P-R-V 1-2-3

DMC knew the performance of the car as built with the steel frame was 
lacking because the car came out heavier than origionaly designed with 
the composite frame. Being forced to go with the engine package 
because of EPA certifacation requirements caused the power to weight 
ratio to be higher than anticipated. The "magic bullet" was to add a 
turbo to the car. This is what Legend Industries (well known in the 
industry for having the ability to prototype and do small scale 
production runs on turbo installations) was doing for DMC when DMC  
declared banckrupcy. In so doing and at the time owing Legend millions 
of dollars it caused Legend to also declare bankrupcy. (Great system 
isn't it?) The British Government caused a ripple effect that hurt 
many automotive suppliers besides killing DMC and Legend Industries.
The turbo installation changed the personality of the car as anyone 
who has one will tell you. It is still available to be installed on 
the Delorean and IMHO is a better option than trying an engine swap. 
DMC Houston also has engineered an uprated naturally aspirated PRV-6 
that is supposed to achieve similar results without a turbo. Driver 
reports indicate that it's performance is impressive and may be a 
better alternative. 
 The distributer is where it is because this was origionaly a front 
wheel drive package. The Bosch fuel system contrary to much of what 
you may hear is a very reliable and effecient fuel system. The main 
problem with it is people working on it and not knowing what they are 
doing.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_j...> wrote:
> I just opened up my fuel sender unit; the gas light wasn't coming 
on... 
> Seems there was a little bit of non-conductive material on the
> contacts...  A few scrapes and I'm off to the races!  What an easy 
job;
> the whole deal from start to finish was 10 minutes.  I love the 
Delorean.
>  Fiberglass to save weight and a stainless body so you'll never need 
a





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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 00:50:13 EDT
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Low profile subs

Hey List,

    I tried searching the yahoo groups web page, but couldn't find an answer 
in there.  When I am ready to get a better stereo system in my car, I wanted 
to get 2 subs and mount them in the rear deck panel right below the rear 
window.  Does anyone know of any good low profile subs?  I had wanted to get 
either 8 inch or 10 inch subs.  Also, does anyone know of how much space 
there is behind the deck?  And would it be a good idea to place the amp 
behind that deck or is the best place for the amp underneath the spare tire?  
Also, yesterday I installed my power antenna.  That thing too a LONG time to 
install, now all I need to do is install that radio....       

Later,
Nick
1852
<A HREF="Http://members.aol.com/njp548">Http://members.aol.com/njp548</A>



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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 00:55:45 EDT
From: RJRavalli_at_dml_AOL.com
Subject: Re: Detomaso Pantera ...gullwing?

I don't know about a Pantera gullwing, but a friend of mine in
town has a Pantera kit car where the whole top lifts up and
off (exactally like the Batmobile), and this serves as the door.  In 
fact we would drive around town and it was really fun seeing his
car and mine together and looking at people's reactions anytime
we pulled in somewhere or sat infront of my house.  We called 
ourselves the "Exotic Door Car Club".  :)  (Unfortunately he recently 
moved to San Fran and I don't see him as often.)  Yes it was a kit
car, as I believe the original Pantera (1960s something) is
a very rare and expensive model, but I would still love to have it
too.  

As far as stress fractures on gullwings go, I would like to know
about this too, as I often hear a bit of a poping or cracking when I
open my door and I'm wondering if something is going out.

Richard
  



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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:41:44 -0000
From: "Sacha Prins" <sacha_at_dml_prins.net>
Subject: Re: Turbo DeLorean

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_d...> wrote:
> Interestingly, this car's engine seems identical to Tony Lawther's
> right-hander here in the UK. Picture here:
> 
> http://delorean.connect-2.co.uk/pictures/dcp02079.jpg
> 
> AFAIAA this was a turbo from a Renault Alpine A310. I don't know if 
> the exact history is known by Legend definitely had A310s for work 
> on the DeLorean

Hi Martin,

I have the exact same turbo setup om my DeLorean. Mine has a sticker
on it that says "BAE Turbo Charged", so BAE made it. If you look for
"BAE and TURBO" on Google ou'll find more about them. They also did VW
and othercars. I don't know if they still exists though.

Sacha






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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 08:33:03 EDT
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Delorean documents on ebay..

In a message dated 8/9/01 10:07:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
heskin_at_dml_bellatlantic.net writes:


> I'm just curious who or what is profiting from all the items on Ebay that
> mention " Delorean Motor Company's corporate records and documents that were
> seized as a result of its 1982 bankruptcy"?  Shouldn't they have been sold
> as part of the bankruptcy, or at a minimum, returned to JZD?
> 
> 

I just asked "DMCTrustee" a similar question.  His reply, in part:

"I work for the estate, therefore, all of the money that is
made from selling the corporate records, will go to the dmc
creditors. We are only permitted to sell the corporate records, I am
not permitted to, for example make copies of something and sell it,
it must be sold as is..etc.  You can do whatever you want with
something that you bought from me." 

-Wayne
DMCTech Group
11174


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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 07:18:02 -0700
From: "Donald Ekhoff" <ekhoff_at_dml_seagullsolutions.net>
Subject: Re: Turbo DeLorean

This is the same single turbo I have on my car.  It was installed by Don S.
at DeLorean Motor Center about ten years ago. (works good)

Don Ekhoff


----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Gutkowski" <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 4:10 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] Turbo DeLorean


> Interestingly, this car's engine seems identical to Tony Lawther's
> right-hander here in the UK. Picture here:
>
> http://delorean.connect-2.co.uk/pictures/dcp02079.jpg
>
> AFAIAA this was a turbo from a Renault Alpine A310. I don't know if the
exact
> history is known by Legend definitely had A310s for work on the DeLorean
>
> Martin
>
> "Marc A. Levy" wrote:
>
> > I dont see where he makes any claims about anything.. All I found was a
> > page with photos, and a page with stuff he needs to fix.
> >
> > Legend owned 5 DeLoreans..  2 were Twin Turbo, 2 were single turbo, and
> > I have no idea what the fifth was...  If this is really the fifth car,
> > then it looks like it has a single turbo setup.
> >
> > His tags read "554-LOT"..  Is this Vin 554??
>
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:02:32 EDT
From: senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: Re: Detomaso Pantera ...gullwing?

In a message dated 08/09/2001 10:06:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
delorean502_at_dml_excite.com writes:

<< Subj:     [DML] Detomaso Pantera ...gullwing?
 Date:  08/09/2001 10:06:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time
 From:  delorean502_at_dml_excite.com
 Reply-to:  dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
 To:    dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
 
 Did the Pantera ever come in a gullwing version?  I met a guy today 
 who used to run a body shop.  He said a Pantera came in once with 
 gullwing doors.  I've never heard of them having gullwings.  Also, 
 this guy claims that when the delorean came out he had them in the 
 shop all the time because of stress fracture on the doors.  Has 
 anybody heard of this?  I know the Bricklin was known to do that and 
 I asked him if maybe he was confusing the D with the Bricklin, but he 
 stood his ground.  
 
 
The original DeTomaso Mangusta had a Gullwing door engine compartment 
openings. 

Maybe he also worked at the Dunmurry factory when DMC decided to strip off 
the paint from the cars and sell them unpainted.

Mike



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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 15:09:44 -0000
From: johndmc57_at_dml_yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Turbo DeLorean

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Sacha Prins" <sacha_at_dml_p...> wrote:
> --- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_d...> wrote:
> > Interestingly, this car's engine seems identical to Tony Lawther's
> > right-hander here in the UK. Picture here:
> > 
> > http://delorean.connect-2.co.uk/pictures/dcp02079.jpg
> > 
> > AFAIAA this was a turbo from a Renault Alpine A310. I don't know 
if 
> > the exact history is known by Legend definitely had A310s for 
work 
> > on the DeLorean
> 
> Hi Martin,
> 
> I have the exact same turbo setup om my DeLorean. Mine has a sticker
> on it that says "BAE Turbo Charged", so BAE made it. If you look for
> "BAE and TURBO" on Google ou'll find more about them. They also did 
VW
> and othercars. I don't know if they still exists though.
> 
> Sacha
Nice turbo set up but will you please glue your DMC sticker back 
down.;)




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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 15:24:30 -0000
From: 88mph_at_dml_delorean.com
Subject: Re: very high idle

Hello,

I follow the mailing list for a long time but it's my first post, so 
a short presentation, I'm French, living in Luxembourg, I'm 29 years 
old, owner of the n 04271 since 1 year (bought for my birhtday! 
pretty gift, isn't this?). I restored my car during one year, and to 
have entirely dismounted it, I know many things about many parts of 
this car.

I know this problem, I had it too, it may be a vaccum disconnetion 
(for my part, it was the problem). Check the connection of the vaccum 
behind the Delco head (distributor cap : part 102751 and 102606), 
there is an electric cable (with 2 wires) if I remember well. Just 
plug it at its place and everything will go fine.

All the best,

Christophe.
VIN#04271 / DL005

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Soma576_at_dml_a... wrote:
> hello, 
> 
> i'm back again with ANOTHER problem!
> i've noticed that ever since i got my car back from the tranny shop 
(got a 
> new clutch and slave cylinder) my RPM's when i push in the clutch 
are VERY 
> high, like around 3K, no matter what gear i'm coming out of.  then 
i can tap 
> the accelerator and it will drop down to about 2K.  is this right?  
i don't 
> remember it being like this before! it's kind of annoying and 
probably not 
> good on the gas milage!
> 
> Andy
> 
> Soma576_at_dml_a...
> 1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
> Fargo, ND 58102
> 
> 
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 07:52:23 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Odd AC cycling

The condition you are describing is normal and still indicates that you need to add freon. A faster spinning AC compressor creates reduced pressure at the accumulator dryer this will in turn cause the low pressure cut off switch cycle more rapidly. 

DMC Joe
www.dmc.tv 
"See You At The Cruise-In"
DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: K Creason 
  To: Dmc /dml 
  Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 8:39 PM
  Subject: [DML] Odd AC cycling


  I've probably got an AC leak since my system is cycling excessively again
  (only 8 months since fill gas charge-- drop-in conversion to the new stuff).
  But the weird thing is this. When I'm moving down the road for the first few
  minutes after start it's cycling quite heavily-- every couple of seconds.
  But if I'm stopped, or coasting & the RPM's are under 1500, it stops
  cycling. Then magically a couple of minutes after I get going and after
  RPM's drop down at least once, it stops and only cycles once every couple of
  minutes (if that). the air out the vents by then is quite cool and
  comfortable in this sticky 90 stuff.

  We did checks for leaks before and after conversion/fill last december, it
  was ok. Now what?

  Kevin
  #4687, Houston





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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:21:15 EDT
From: RJRavalli_at_dml_AOL.com
Subject: More on Pantera gullwing...

Maybe there have been Pantera gullwings made...this link shows one, I think.

http://www.panteracars.com/Dscn1461rt01.jpg

We hear a lot about Bricklins and DeLoreans getting together, but why not some Panteras as well?

Richard




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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 14:24:08 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Re: P-R-V 1-2-3

Just wanted to take this opportunity to back up the following statement. 

David Teitelbaum said:
"The Bosch fuel system contrary to much of what  you may hear is a very reliable and effecient fuel system. The main problem with it is people working on it and not knowing what they are doing".

DMC Joe
www.dmc.tv 
"See You At The Cruise-In"
DMC Help / De Lorean Services / <dmchelp_at_dml_att.net>





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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:33:56 -0400
From: "Jonathan Lazar" <jxace_at_dml_adelphia.net>
Subject: A/C mode switch voltage problem

I have run into a very weird problem while trying to figure out why my A/C
compressor doesn't engage.

Here is some background info first; I have owned the car for 2 years and the
A/C has never worked, however, the vent system did.  I was able to blow
fresh air through the vents on all four of the blower speeds.  I know the
compressor works because I can supply a 12 volt source to the wire coming
off the compressor and it will engage until I remove the 12 volt source.

The A/C mode switch supplies 12 volts to the compressor circuit and the
blower circuit when the mode switch is on the MAX setting.  But, the moment
the fan speed switch is turned to any speed, the circuit grounds and I lose
all volts from the A/C mode switch.  Because of this, the compressor doesn't
get any volts and the blower motor doesn't get any volts.  All wiring, the
mode switch, fan speed switch, the blower motor, and the 3rd and 4th relays
check out perfectly.

I am at a loss.  Why are the volts at the mode switch lost when the fan
speed switch is turned to any one of the speeds?

Any help is appreciated.

Jonathan Lazar
VIN# 4494





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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 16:13:01 -0400
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Odd AC cycling

Kevin,

My first guess is that your 'drop-in conversion' may be clogging up your
expansion orifice.  Any original oil that is left in the system will
eventually react with the R-134a and turn to gunk.  The initial short
cycling is due to not enough freon circulating through the system due to the
clogs.  Once the clogs have been circulated through enough times to break
apart, then your system works properly.  Each time the car is left sitting
(such as being parked overnight for example) the bad refrigerant oil
re-coagulates.

Being able to say that your compressor "only cycles once every couple of
minutes (if that)." and the system still produces plenty of cold air -- this
is NOT normal for a DeLorean.  Perhaps this is a benefit of using R-134a.
Imagine that!  A benefit.  :)

What is the ratio of time cycled 'on' vs. time cycled 'off'?  When your
compressor does cycle on, how long does it stay on?

According to the DML archives, my system seems to be typical:  The higher
the heat load and the lower the RPMs, the longer the interval that the
compressor stays on.  And with cool weather and night driving, the
compressor cycles as rapidly as every 7 seconds which is EXTREMELY ANNOYING!

My GM & Ford car's compressors don't cycle near as fast (or as loud!) at
higher RPMs.  I find the extra noise very distracting while driving.  Does
anyone have a way of making it quieter other than turning the a/c off?  It's
worse than sitting next to someone with hiccoughs.

Walt    Tampa, FL





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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 15:21:04 -0000
From: johndmc57_at_dml_yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Low profile subs

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., njp548_at_dml_a... wrote:
> Hey List,
> 
>     I tried searching the yahoo groups web page, but couldn't find 
an answer 
> in there.  When I am ready to get a better stereo system in my car, 
I wanted 
> to get 2 subs and mount them in the rear deck panel right below the 
rear 
> window.  Does anyone know of any good low profile subs?  I had 
wanted to get 
> either 8 inch or 10 inch subs.  Also, does anyone know of how much 
space 
> there is behind the deck?  And would it be a good idea to place the 
amp 
> behind that deck or is the best place for the amp underneath the 
spare tire?  
> Also, yesterday I installed my power antenna.  That thing too a 
LONG time to 
> install, now all I need to do is install that radio....       
> 
> Later,
> Nick
> 1852
> <A 
HREF="Http://members.aol.com/njp548">Http://members.aol.com/njp548</A>


I am in the process of puting a subwoofer in my DMC. For my 
speakers,instead of cutting the back panel I took two premade speaker 
boxes and cut them down to 3.5 inches, they are the right angle and 
color. I then screwed them to the back panel, they look and sound 
great and fit below the upper lip.
As far as a subwoofer goes it has to be in a box that meets the specs 
for air space. I am building another box to mount my sub that will 
meet these requirements and fit between my other speakers. I may be 
wrong but I think that any subwoofer mounted in the back panel will 
not perform properly from what I have been told by the audio pros.
John.




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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:43:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>
Subject: Re: very high idle

I've noticed that over the last couple months, my car will idle at
different speeds. Sometimes tapping the gas pedal works, other times it
doesn't. Some days I'll just be sitting at a red light, idling at 2000,
and then it slowly drops down to 900 (normal on my car). This morning it
just got too rediculus. I came off the highway and I was idling at 3500
RPM. I ended up shutting the car off, and starting it again. When I got to
work I found that the throttle spool (next to the water pump) is sticking.
I'm guessing that some WD-40 will take care of that.

You might want to check that out. I simply turned the spool counter
clockwise and the idle dropped right down to 900. Maybe the spool just got
dirtied up at the tranny shop.

-Christian


On Thu, 9 Aug 2001 Soma576_at_dml_aol.com wrote:

> hello,
>
> i'm back again with ANOTHER problem!
> i've noticed that ever since i got my car back from the tranny shop (got a
> new clutch and slave cylinder) my RPM's when i push in the clutch are VERY
> high, like around 3K, no matter what gear i'm coming out of.  then i can tap
> the accelerator and it will drop down to about 2K.  is this right?  i don't
> remember it being like this before! it's kind of annoying and probably not
> good on the gas milage!
>
> Andy
>
> Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
> 1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
> Fargo, ND 58102
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> Before posting messages or replies, see the posting policy rules at:
> www.dmcnews.com/Admin/rules.html
>
> To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address:
> moderator_at_dml_dmcnews.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>




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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 16:16:27 EDT
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: very high idle

Thanks for the idea!
actually DMCJoe helped me on this one.  we found out that the accelerator 
cable plastic sleeve had slipped out of a fitting right in front of the 
throttle spool, so the cable was hanging up about a half centimeter from the 
end of it, so my spool wasn't unwinding enough to trip the idle microswitch!  
i pushed the sleeve back into the fitting and all is fine now!

Andy






In a message dated 8/10/01 3:12:38 PM Central Daylight Time, 
88mph_at_dml_delorean.com writes:


> Hello,
> 
> I follow the mailing list for a long time but it's my first post, so 
> a short presentation, I'm French, living in Luxembourg, I'm 29 years 
> old, owner of the n 04271 since 1 year (bought for my birhtday! 
> pretty gift, isn't this?). I restored my car during one year, and to 
> have entirely dismounted it, I know many things about many parts of 
> this car.
> 
> I know this problem, I had it too, it may be a vaccum disconnetion 
> (for my part, it was the problem). Check the connection of the vaccum 
> behind the Delco head (distributor cap : part 102751 and 102606), 
> there is an electric cable (with 2 wires) if I remember well. Just 
> plug it at its place and everything will go fine.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Christophe.
> 



Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102


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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 16:51:53 -0400
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Re: motor oil and gas - recommended?

I remember hearing someone explain that much of the design of the PRV engine
was from an 8 cylinder diesel engine.  They said that this contributed to
the durability of the engine.

Anyway, if this is true then it could make sense that it would be specified
to use an oil more suited to a diesel engine.

But then I've heard a lot of things about DeLoreans from door opening motors
to helicopter engines.  Can anyone substantiate the diesel engine story?

Walt    Tampa, FL




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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 21:39:23 -0000
From: delorean502_at_dml_excite.com
Subject: Re: More on Pantera gullwing...

That looks like a bricklin to me.  Notive the Bricklin emblem by the 
passenger front fender.

erik


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., RJRavalli_at_dml_A... wrote:
> Maybe there have been Pantera gullwings made...this link shows one, 
I think.
> 
> http://www.panteracars.com/Dscn1461rt01.jpg
> 
> We hear a lot about Bricklins and DeLoreans getting together, but 
why not some Panteras as well?
> 
> Richard




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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 18:05:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: William T Wilson <fluffy_at_dml_snurgle.org>
Subject: Re: Re: motor oil and gas - recommended?

On Fri, 10 Aug 2001, Walter wrote:

> I remember hearing someone explain that much of the design of the PRV
> engine was from an 8 cylinder diesel engine.  They said that this
> contributed to the durability of the engine.

It was originally planned to be a V8, but I've been under the impression
it was a gas V8, not a diesel.  I've never heard of an aluminum diesel!




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Message: 23
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 01:17:07 -0000
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net
Subject: Re: motor oil and gas - recommended?

Although the PRV-6 isn't a diesel it shares a common design element 
which makes it a very rugged engine (like a diesel) in that it has 
removable liners for cylinder walls. Since the block is cast aluminum 
you need to have cast iron for cylinder walls. Most manufactures will 
cast the cast iron cylinder walls right in (non removable) as opposed 
to the PRV which has removable liners "like a diesel". Most of the 
time this isn't even a consideration as the PRV is probably the most 
reliable part of the entire car! The basic engine will run forever 
JUST DON'T OVERHEAT IT!
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> I remember hearing someone explain that much of the design of the 
PRV engine
> was from an 8 cylinder diesel engine.  They said that this 
contributed to
> the durability of the engine.
> 
> Anyway, if this is true then it could make sense that it would be 
specified
> to use an oil more suited to a diesel engine.
> 
> But then I've heard a lot of things about DeLoreans from door 
opening motors
> to helicopter engines.  Can anyone substantiate the diesel engine 
story?
> 
> Walt    Tampa, FL




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Message: 24
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 21:58:02 EDT
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: AC problem

Hi List,
    Last week I had my D's AC system evacuated and recharged with r-12.  
Amazingly it blows cold!.  On Wednesday I took the car on a small road trip 
up to the UP of Michigan.  It was about 95 degrees (VERY Humid) so the AC was 
on for the majority of the trip up; so about 4 hours.  It stayed very cool 
and I had no problems at all.  When I got out and opened the passenger door I 
couldn't believe it.  There was almost 2 inches of water on the passenger 
floor.  I took it to the car wash and vacuumed it out.  When I came home I 
removed the seat and dried the carpet.
    How can I fix this problem?  The first week with AC I usually had a large 
puddle of water on the garage floor once I parked the car after the AC had 
been on. Now I don't have a puddle on the ground but in my car.  I removed 
the glove box, knee pad and I cant really see where it is coming from.  Any 
help would be greatly appreciated.  Ps.  My compressor cycles on/off every 9 
seconds for the first 5 mins and then it takes much longer to cycle once its 
been on for a bit.  Do I need to add more freon? 

Thank You all
David
IN2TIME-MICH



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