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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 671
Date: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 8:42 AM

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There are 11 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Stainless Steel Polish
From: srubano_at_dml_optonline.com

2. Newbie Files
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net>

3. Official word on Sunstar Model
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>

4. Re: Crome powder coated rims
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

5. Re: Official word on Sunstar Model
From: Joshua Porter <joshp1986_at_dml_yahoo.com>

6. Re: Whats missing???
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com

7. low voltage, battery light on
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

8. Re: low voltage, battery light on
From: srubano_at_dml_optonline.com

9. Re: low voltage, battery light on
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

10. Delorean for sale
From: "Ryan Foster" <westiething_at_dml_hotmail.com>

11. AC cycling
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 02:19:33 -0000
From: srubano_at_dml_optonline.com
Subject: Stainless Steel Polish

Hey list,

This weekend while up in Pennsylvania a friend of mine had a 
Stainless steel BBQ. It was pretty dirty and "heat stained" (brownish 
color) along with normal dirt from being outside. He took out this 
cleaner from "MSW - Stainless Cleaner" that was made by the same BBQ 
manufacture (MSW). It went on as a liquid and with minimal 
rubbing....the stainless looked like it just came from the factory! I 
am going to go to a local BBQ place here (NY) and see if they sell it 
and try it out. It left no residue what so ever on the Stainless and 
it didn't pickup any fingerprints when you touched it. Has anyone 
used/tried this before? Hopefully I find it here and I can try it out 
this week if it stops raining....I'll keep everyone posted.

Steve




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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 07:09:15 +0000
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net>
Subject: Newbie Files

Much to my surprise the newbie corner is back in business.   On the DMC
News site, Technical information section, there is a listing called
Newbie Files (waiting for content).  As originally conceived, my idea
was to list some of the things new owners need to know, not great
technical items just basic survival.

Any thoughts?  Mail me privately, I'll check to see if it fits or is
already handled, etc.

What should you have known at the start that you had trouble finding
out?  What did you have to call a vendor about that you should have been
able to find easily on your own?  What did you discover in that realm
that you wish to pass on to others?  What are you still wondering about
that would fit these files...if you don't know there are others who
don't know.  Submit it! Any question is a good question, there are no
dumb ones...submit it!

Thanks, Les




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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 14:30:14 -0500
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: Official word on Sunstar Model

Sunstar Toys has licensed the DMC logo from DeLorean Motor Company (Houston)
for use on their models and packaging, making this model an official
DeLorean Motor Company licensed product. As part of our agreement with them,
we have been in close contact with them as the model gets closer to
shipment.

As you may have heard, DeLorean Motor Company had one of the two
pre-production models on display at our open house last weekend. Our contact
at Sunstar says that the factory is planning to have models in the U.S. on
September 15th, but he says they are always 2-4 weeks behind and expect
early to mid-October to be more likely. As the licensor of the logo to
Sunstar, DeLorean Motor Company will be the first to receive models and
therefore the first to ship.

More photos and ordering information can be found on our website at:

http://www.delorean.com/models.asp

Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.

James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
Houston, Texas 

281/568-9573
800/USA-DMC1
http://www.delorean.com 




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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 10:44:02 EDT
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Crome powder coated rims

[MODERATOR'S NOTE: The images are actually stored under the filename "andyDMC2.jpg" in the DMCNews files section rather than under the name Andy indicates below.]


In a message dated 8/13/01 8:01:09 PM Central Daylight Time, 
mrvideosawyer_at_dml_netscape.net writes:


> Bill,
> Do you have a picture of the rims, you have peaked my interest in this 
> process.  I was thinking about chrome for my rims but this sounds just as 
> good.
> 
> Jim Sawyer
> 

Hello Everyone,

i am the owner of the car which Bill is describing now.  he sold it to me in 
November, and we are BOTH very proud of the job done on the wheels of VIN 
11596!!  the first thing he asked me when i got home with it to Fargo, ND 
was, 'so has anyone said anything about the CHROME WHEELS!?!?!?!'   he he 
he!!! well, i have heard a lot of compliments at both car shows and just 
cruising down the street.  the business who did my these wheels did a GREAT 
JOB!!!

i have uploaded a collage from the MNDMC site (Jim Reeve's) to the 
DMCNEWS-Files section under the description 'powder-coated chrome wheels'.

take a look for yourselves!

Andy

Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102


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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 16:14:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joshua Porter <joshp1986_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Official word on Sunstar Model

Are they going to make any Gold or BTTF DeLorean
models?
          Josh <JoshP1986_at_dml_yahoo.com>
--- James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com> wrote:
> Sunstar Toys has licensed the DMC logo from DeLorean
> Motor Company (Houston)
> for use on their models and packaging, making this
> model an official
> DeLorean Motor Company licensed product. As part of
> our agreement with them,
> we have been in close contact with them as the model
> gets closer to
> shipment.
> 
> As you may have heard, DeLorean Motor Company had
> one of the two
> pre-production models on display at our open house
> last weekend. Our contact
> at Sunstar says that the factory is planning to have
> models in the U.S. on
> September 15th, but he says they are always 2-4
> weeks behind and expect
> early to mid-October to be more likely. As the
> licensor of the logo to
> Sunstar, DeLorean Motor Company will be the first to
> receive models and
> therefore the first to ship.
> 
> More photos and ordering information can be found on
> our website at:
> 
> http://www.delorean.com/models.asp
> 
> Please let me know if I can be of further
> assistance.
> 
> James Espey
> DeLorean Motor Company
> Houston, Texas 
> 
> 281/568-9573
> 800/USA-DMC1
> http://www.delorean.com 
> 
> 
> 
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 20:22:19 EDT
From: deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Whats missing???

In a message dated 8/12/01 5:40:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net writes:


> You just happened to find one of the "missing" parts that don't hardly 
> show up anywhere. Refer to Workshop Manual J:02:01 fig #4. 

That's just one of those aggravating little things I'd like to correct in the 
updated manuals... starting with the parts manual.  I noticed some time ago 
that the speedo drive cap appears not with the speed cable illustration but 
with the "suspension" section.  Duh.  Plus it's called by different names in 
different places, including "dust cover," as I recall.  Not real helpful.
If you're signed up for DMCTech, look for some activity in the next weel or 
so, as I complete test scans of the various manuals I'm using.  I'll be 
sending out various illustrations, including several originals you've 
probably never seen, for comment and suggestion for additions and 
improvements.

-Wayne A. Ernst
DMCTech Group


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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 20:48:58 EDT
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: low voltage, battery light on

Hey guys,

for the last two weeks i've had a recurring problem - 
every now and then while i am driving my voltage would drop a couple of volts 
for no apparent reason, then it would come back up on it's own after a few 
seconds.  also it will cause the battery light to flicker when i hit higher 
RPM's such as during a quick acceleration.  but then it would behave normally 
when i am at 'normal' driving conditions.  also, i have never had a problem 
with the battery dying on me while i drive, however it only takes about 2-3 
hours to kill it enough to not to start the car if you leave the doors open.  

anyway, the problem was kind of troublesome before but it didn't worry me too 
much because it always returned to normal after awhile.  however, today on my 
way home from work the voltage was down to about 10 volts (just above the 
first numbered tick) with my battery light either on or flickering for most 
of my 10 mile trip home, which was scary because i was afraid i would have to 
get a tow home!!!!

anyone have any idea on what to do or check out?  i don't know the first 
thing in troubleshooting this problem, but i can follow anyone's directions 
or ideas.  someone suggested checking the front ground strap - where is that 
located?  i checked the parts manual and it was quite ambiguous as to the 
"front ground strap".

FWIW, my battery is a couple of years old i believe (haven't brought it in to 
get checked out yet) and i replaced the alternator belt this spring and it is 
good and tight.  also, the previous owner of my car replaced it with the 130 
amp (i think that's what it is??) upgrade about a year and a half ago.  ALSO, 
is it true that one of the battery straps is on the right rear trailing arm 
bolt?  i think i read that somewhere.  my car makes a 'clunk' when i make 
turns sometimes (and i had the drive shafts lubed last week) but i haven't 
had time to investigate it fully (body-chassis bolts and trailing arm bolts). 
 could this be a contributing factor?

thanks a lot!
Andy

Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102


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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 01:36:28 -0000
From: srubano_at_dml_optonline.com
Subject: Re: low voltage, battery light on

Andy,

The ground strap for the Battery goes from the battery compartment to 
the trailing arm bushing bolt on passenger side (not the trailing arm 
bolt itself). You'll have to remove the Trailing Arm sheild to see it.

The ground straps in the front will be a bunch of black wires going 
to one lug that I believe is bolted to the front crumple tube section 
on the drivers side.

Steve

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Soma576_at_dml_a... wrote:
> Hey guys,
> 
> for the last two weeks i've had a recurring problem - 
> every now and then while i am driving my voltage would drop a 
couple of volts 
> for no apparent reason, then it would come back up on it's own 
after a few 
> seconds.  also it will cause the battery light to flicker when i 
hit higher 
> RPM's such as during a quick acceleration.  but then it would 
behave normally 
> when i am at 'normal' driving conditions.  also, i have never had a 
problem 
> with the battery dying on me while i drive, however it only takes 
about 2-3 
> hours to kill it enough to not to start the car if you leave the 
doors open.  
> 
> anyway, the problem was kind of troublesome before but it didn't 
worry me too 
> much because it always returned to normal after awhile.  however, 
today on my 
> way home from work the voltage was down to about 10 volts (just 
above the 
> first numbered tick) with my battery light either on or flickering 
for most 
> of my 10 mile trip home, which was scary because i was afraid i 
would have to 
> get a tow home!!!!
> 
> anyone have any idea on what to do or check out?  i don't know the 
first 
> thing in troubleshooting this problem, but i can follow anyone's 
directions 
> or ideas.  someone suggested checking the front ground strap - 
where is that 
> located?  i checked the parts manual and it was quite ambiguous as 
to the 
> "front ground strap".
> 
> FWIW, my battery is a couple of years old i believe (haven't 
brought it in to 
> get checked out yet) and i replaced the alternator belt this spring 
and it is 
> good and tight.  also, the previous owner of my car replaced it 
with the 130 
> amp (i think that's what it is??) upgrade about a year and a half 
ago.  ALSO, 
> is it true that one of the battery straps is on the right rear 
trailing arm 
> bolt?  i think i read that somewhere.  my car makes a 'clunk' when 
i make 
> turns sometimes (and i had the drive shafts lubed last week) but i 
haven't 
> had time to investigate it fully (body-chassis bolts and trailing 
arm bolts). 
>  could this be a contributing factor?
> 
> thanks a lot!
> Andy
> 
> Soma576_at_dml_a...
> 1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
> Fargo, ND 58102
> 
> 
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 22:20:41 EDT
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: low voltage, battery light on

Andy, Sounds like the regulator in the alternator is going out or has gone 
out. This hot weather all over the country is playing havoc on them. Delco 
has changed their specifications two or three times in the last couple of 
years and even though they try to do better, sometimes it's not quite as good 
in all applications. They try to make one device fit as many applications as 
possible.  We are always looking for the better regulator. I'm am going to 
start adding a diode in the light wire to try to stop some potential feed 
back problems.
John Hervey
http://www.specialtauto.com/



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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 01:24:35
From: "Ryan Foster" <westiething_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Delorean for sale

Hello list,
The other day I sadly let everyone know my DeLorean is for sale.
It is still for sale But here is some of the details:
                      1983 DMC-12 DeLorean
This car has never failed me. It really has been fun to drive and quite a 
looker. It is in tiptop shape I wouldn’t hesitate to drive it across the 
country.
Here are the details.
&#61623; Grey interior
&#61623; 5-Speed
&#61623; 24,000 original miles
&#61623; New rear Tires (Firestone Firehawks)
&#61623; New rear breaks
&#61623; New stainless steel clutch line from P.J. Grady
&#61623; New clutch slave cylinder from P.J. Grady
&#61623; New louver struts
&#61623; New A/C Belt (Gates)
&#61623; New Alternator Belt (Gates)
&#61623; A/C Blows Icy cold do to a recharge with R-12.
&#61623; All suspension struts replaced within last year
&#61623; Power windows work perfect
&#61623; Power door locks work great as well
&#61623; New thermostat
&#61623; Flushed and refilled antifreeze with prestone silver.(Does not     
corrode aluminum)
&#61623; I have added Grey floor mats from DMC in Houston to protect carpet
&#61623; New relay update kit from DMC Houston
&#61623; Oil changed every 3,000 miles, and filter
&#61623; Everything works on this car
&#61623; The stock radio was replaced with a Sony CD player (original radio 
comes with car along with ASI owners manual)
&#61623; The car also comes with, sunshade from DMC in Houston, Workshop 
manual, parts manual, and recall manual from P.J. Grady, The stainless steel 
car care kit with blending pad, car shampoo, rubber/ vinyl care, and 
Stainless steel cleaner.
&#61623; Also I have a can of 3M Stainless steel polish, comes with the car.
&#61623; The original window sticker from when the car was brand new
&#61623; All receipts from parts purchased since car was new.
&#61623; Some other DMC Literature
&#61623; Owner’s manual with the vinyl pouch in perfect condition.

Everything works on this car you won’t be disappointed, it really is a good 
deal. Also I am a non-smoker so there is no “Smokey” smell in this car. 
Actually smells like a new car. Everything is very clean. No cracks in dash 
or discoloration!
The body and interior are in beautiful shape.
I am asking $21,995 obo.
You can contact me at:
email- westiething_at_dml_hotmail.com
Phone- (before 7pm please!) – (607)-786- 9462
I live in Binghamton, NY (Upstate area)
I will deliver anywhere in the 48 United States, too.

Also some info on the original owner,
  I bought the car from David L. Cook; He wrote and preformed the “Cheers” 
Theme song. And I guess President Regan Rode in this car.


                         Ryan- vin.#16301


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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 21:42:48 EDT
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: AC cycling

Hi List,
    I finally got my AC to stop dripping by blowing out the drain hose with 
an air compressor.  I put my hand into the evaporator it was very clean; 
hopefully that problem doesn't come back.  
    When I drive the Car the AC cycles on/off ever 5 seconds and then stays 
on and doesn't cycle when I am in idle.  The AC works great but it is just 
kind of annoying to have it cycle that much.  I have had it on for over and 
hour straight and it continues to blow cold air.  I see that the pressure 
switch can be adjusted to changed the cycling time.  Will I hurt anything by 
adjusting it so it comes on between 45 and 90 seconds like the manual says?  
Or could this be because I am low on Freon?  I just had it evacuated and 
recharged but the guy that did it was a few sandwiches short of a picnic if 
you know what I mean so maybe he didn't put enough in.  any help would be 
appreciated

Thanks
David
IN2TIME-MICH



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