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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 677
Date: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 2:55 AM

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There are 12 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Idle Control
From: wmack <wmack_at_dml_vt.edu>

2. Re: things that go bump in the night
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net

3. Fuel tank baffle
From: georad_at_dml_attglobal.net

4. Re: Fuel tank baffle
From: srubano_at_dml_optonline.com

5. 3760 Miles, and still going strong.
From: "Jim Reeve"<ultra_at_dml_isd.net>

6. Re: Idle Control
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net

7. Owner's Groups
From: Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin_at_dml_vantagep.com>

8. New to DMC news list
From: "Cohee, Michael" <mcohee_at_dml_cfginc.com>

9. Re: Fuel tank baffle
From: jeff_at_dml_coware.com

10. Re: Fuel tank baffle
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

11. Delorean for sale Pics
From: "Ryan Foster" <westiething_at_dml_hotmail.com>

12. Re: 1/18 scale D question
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>





Message: 1
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 23:24:31 -0400
From: wmack <wmack_at_dml_vt.edu>
Subject: Idle Control

I took my Delorean into the shop at the beginning of the summer, to try and 
locate a oil leak i have in the engine.  When i came back to talk to the 
mechanic he told me that the leak was very small and that i shouldn't worry 
about it.  However, he did tell me that he was a little concerned with the way 
the car was idling.  He began to give me his two cents on the subject, and 
told me that european car manufacturers can't seem to make a good idle control 
system.  he said that they have a couple european cars in there shop every 
couple of months to replace the idle control.  he said that it would be worth 
my looking into, to try and get an idle control system off of a japanese car.  
he said that the japanese idle control always outlast the life of the car, and 
that i could probably find one in a junk yard.
So my question to you is, has anyone replaced the idle control with something 
like this?  or is the delorean idle control pretty dependable?

Thanks
  Willie Mack
  Vin 5043




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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 03:45:00 -0000
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net
Subject: Re: things that go bump in the night

Inspect the trailing arm bolts but I think the source of the noise is 
one or both of the drive shafts. The drive shafts change their length 
as the wheels go up and down and on turns under acceleration. They 
probably just need to be disassembled, cleaned and lubricated. While 
you are at it check the c/v boots and lube the c/v joints too. Since 
you think the noise is from the right start with that one first but do 
both as they are on the car the same amount of time. The procedure is 
in the archives for the driveshafts and c/v joints.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Mike Cutting" <mcutting_at_dml_n...> wrote:
> hi folks..
> 
> within the past week or so, i have heard a weird noise in the back 
end of my
> car..  it seems to be coming from the righ rear of the car.  
sometimes when
> i take a left corner, there is a faint "thunk".  any thoughts as to 
what to
> look for?  i was thinking that it may be a bushing starting to go 
but when i
> looked, everything looked okay.  i don't think it's a c-v joint..  
they all
> seem tight.
> 
> :)
> <=-mike-=>
> www.nt.net/~mcutting




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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 04:18:37 -0000
From: georad_at_dml_attglobal.net
Subject: Fuel tank baffle

I was wondering what the correct position is for the in tank
baffle, when I replaced the fuel pump and compontents the baffle
was pointing towards the left side of the car. When I see pictures
of the baffle it is pointing towards the back of the car. Which way
is the right way? Also, since I'm in there, my baffle does not have
a bottom to it, should I install one?

Thanks,

George Vin #2196




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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 13:06:55 -0000
From: srubano_at_dml_optonline.com
Subject: Re: Fuel tank baffle

The fuel baffle should point towards the rear. It is a good idea to 
install the bottom piece to the baffle as it helps keep water and 
debris away from the fuel pickup line. I had the same problem on mine 
where it was missing and when I serviced the fuel system, I bought 
and installed one.

Steve

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., georad_at_dml_a... wrote:
> I was wondering what the correct position is for the in tank
> baffle,



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 13:27:06 GMT
From: "Jim Reeve"<ultra_at_dml_isd.net>
Subject: 3760 Miles, and still going strong.

Yesterday evening, I just returned home from my week and a half vacation which
included the DMC Houston open house.  The total drive in my DeLorean was about
3760 miles, Minneapolis-Houston-Knoxville-Minneapolis, all within 10 days. 
Grand average mileage was about 26mpg, with a couple city shots with 21, and
a few country drives pulling 29.  For anyone who may doubt the car's ability,
I hope this proves you wrong.  Not a single problem occured with the car.  A
few of you may know I developed a small short in the instrument cluster, but
that was because I hit that bump going north from the Sofitel to fast and too
many times.  However it never effected the driveability of the car.  I would
also like to give a public thank you to Aaron Posey, Ken Koncelik, and Dave
Swingle for allowing me to crash at thier places during my trip.  Also, Darren
Decker goes into my car's history as being the first person to drive my DeLorean
other than me since I bought it, exactly one year ago.  (Thats what you get
when you try to drive from Houston to Knoxville in one shot starting at 3:00pm.)
 Overall, I thought the open house was fun, however I'm not quite sold yet on
the engine upgrade, I'll wait and see what stage II and III pump out.  Now my
car needs new rear tires and an oil change, so I think I'll give it a break
for now.  (8000 miles in 3 months is a little exessive).

Jim Reeve
MNDMC - Minnesota DeLorean Club
DMC-6960



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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:34:20 -0000
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net
Subject: Re: Idle Control

Consider yourself LUCKY that he didn't try to fix your idle! It sounds 
like he is not familiar with the idle system on the Delorean and would 
only screw it up! Once working properly the idle system is very 
reliable but for a mechanic who doesn't know how to fix it when it 
breaks he can cause more problems. The idle system more often than not 
isn't even broken, just not set up properly! I recommend that you find 
someone familiar with the Bosch fuel system or if you have one nearby 
a Volvo dealer. Of course you can use the DML or any of the venders 
would talk your mechanic through the procedures on setting up the idle 
correctly. As far as the leak it is usually something simple like the 
sending unit on the rear left side of the engine.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., wmack <wmack_at_dml_v...> wrote:
> I took my Delorean into the shop at the beginning of the summer, to 
try and 
> locate a oil leak i have in the engine.  When i came back to talk to 
the 
> mechanic he told me that the leak was very small and that i 
shouldn't worry 
> about it.  However, he did tell me that he was a little concerned 
with the way 
> the car was idling.
>   Willie Mack
>   Vin 5043




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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:45:14 -0400
From: Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin_at_dml_vantagep.com>
Subject: Owner's Groups

(Moderators note: Please respond directly to Travis about this and not the mailing list. This is a subject which has been reviewed many time before)


I am curious about owner's groups... has anyone joined the Delorean Owners
Association? I was thinking about it.



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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 12:30:47 -0400
From: "Cohee, Michael" <mcohee_at_dml_cfginc.com>
Subject: New to DMC news list

I have been on the list for a week or so and have been looking at getting a
DeLorean off and on for the past 15 years. I like all the advice the owners
give each other and I was hoping for some advice for new buyers. I have been
looking through all the sale ads on the internet and there seems to be no
shortage of D's in all price ranges. Just curious why people sell...Lose
interest? cost? practicallity? There is an old addage in boating that the 2
happiest days of a boat owners life are the day he buys his boat and then
the  day he sells it. I am hoping this is not the case here. I also noticed
alot have gone up for a sale in the past week...Is there a better time of
year to buy? I would also like to buy from someone who is known to the List
instead of a stranger...Thanks in advance for any help 

Mike C,
Baltimore 




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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:11:57 -0000
From: jeff_at_dml_coware.com
Subject: Re: Fuel tank baffle

I just replaced my baffle. I ordered a new one from DMC Houston,
expecting there to be a bottom plate, but came with just the main
baffle piece. I called DMC and asked about the bottom. I was told that
it is no longer available, but that it is not needed. When the baffle
is attached securely to the bottom of the tank, the tank itself seals
the bottom edge of the baffle.  Also, I tried the position of the
baffle both ways, left side, and back and it makes no difference. I
ended up pointing it rearward. 

On a related note, my original problem was that the car would surge
and stall on turns with a low tank. The problem was NOT the baffle,
which was installed properly, but the hose connecting the pump to the
filter inside the baffle was cracked at the pump connection. When the
tank got low, below the level of the crack, the pump was sucking air
through the crack. I trimmed the hose down below the crack and
reattached it to the pump.

Jeff Angwin
VIN 3034






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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 13:54:18 EDT
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Fuel tank baffle

George, The round part baffel installs towards the back of the tank, so when 
you install the pick up hose there isn't a crimp in the line. 
John Hervey
 http://www.specialtauto.com/



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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 18:21:07
From: "Ryan Foster" <westiething_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Delorean for sale Pics

Hi List,
Ok so as everyone knows I have to sell my DeLorean, well I now have pics if 
any one wants to see them, that is if they are interested in buying it I 
will be more than happy to send them. Thanks again!!

                         Ryan- vin.#16301


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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 16:16:13 -0500
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: Re: 1/18 scale D question

I am under the impression that the initial run of models will be about
50,000 units. In addition to being sold by DeLorean Motor Company and
regular "model" places, they expect these to sold in retail stores as well,
though the timeframe for that is not known to me. I wouldn't expect to see a
production run for some time after the initial 50K, however.

As a sidenote, thanks to everyone who has ordered one of the models from our
online store. As of this morning, we have over 100 orders!

James

> Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 13:54:45 -0000
> From: delorean502_at_dml_excite.com
> Subject: 1/18 scale D question
> 
> This question is directed more towards James.  Do you know how long
> this model will be available? 
> 
> Erik
> 04512




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