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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 702
Date: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 7:45 AM

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There are 19 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Looking for that D
From: "Some Nut" <thenutman_at_dml_prodigy.net>

2. Re: Looking for that D
From: "Ryan Foster" <westiething_at_dml_hotmail.com>

3. RE: hood adjustment
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>

4. Re: Deceleration Problem
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net

5. Mike DeLuca, Please contact me
From: "Aaron C." <slider_ten_at_dml_hotmail.com>

6. Re: Looking for that D
From: "Jan van de Wouw" <Jan_at_dml_vdWouw.Demon.nl>

7. Gas smell from AC fan vents
From: graves_14_at_dml_hotmail.com

8. New England area D repairs
From: graves_14_at_dml_hotmail.com

9. Re: Deceleration Problem
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

10. Re: Deceleration Problem
From: "Jim Reeve" <ultra_at_dml_isd.net>

11. Directions to the SEDOC Cruise-In
From: "Thomas Long" <trl2_at_dml_mindspring.com>

12. Re: hood adjustment
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

13. 3 Sunstar models
From: Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>

14. Does anyone remember the name?
From: malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com

15. RE: Does anyone remember the name?
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>

16. RE: Gas smell from AC fan vents
From: "Mike Griese" <mike.griese_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>

17. Re: New England area D repairs
From: badgeman46_at_dml_hotmail.com

18. RE: Gas smell from AC fan vents
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>

19. Re: Gas smell from AC fan vents
From: "Flash66" <flash66_at_dml_stealthport.com>





Message: 1
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 07:14:28 -0400
From: "Some Nut" <thenutman_at_dml_prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Looking for that D

Yes new. I'll check the archives.
I've only gone by these for pricing so far:
http://nadaguides.com/GlobalFrame.asp?UserID=0538E1602C1&DID=37144&Type=IM&G
Code=CC&wSec=2&wPg=1107&Com=0028&Year=1983&Model=08002800001

http://hemmings.com//hemmings/searches/prices/priceresults.cfm
Because of the .cfm link it won't bring up the results witth a click but it
states you can find one in Good shape for $ 15,450.00.
 Good being:
GOOD: Very nice condition. In fact, most casual observers would describe the
vehicle as "excellent." "Good" cars show very little wear and are driven
sparingly. Many are used as weekend drivers. Many older restorations fall
into this category.

Tony



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:42:25
From: "Ryan Foster" <westiething_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Looking for that D

Tony,
My Delorean was not musty it did not have a rusty frame it ran strong and it 
is only $17,900 at VW of Oneonta in NY. Their number is 1-800-351-8166 and 
you'll want to ask for Steve Adam. If you have any questions about this car 
You can ask me, just send me an email.
Good luck!

                         Ryan- formerly vin.#16301



>From: "Some Nut" <thenutman_at_dml_prodigy.net>
>Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
>To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [DML] Looking for that D
>Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 17:08:08 -0400
>
>( Moderators note: Either Tony is new to the list or he's pulling our leg. 
>Tony, look through the archives and also check through the cars for sale in 
>the classified area of the Mailing List web site to get a better idea of 
>the going prices for DeLoreans. )
>
>
>Hello all,
>I've been searching for a D for quite a while now and I'm getting 
>frustrated. They all seem to be quite musty smelling inside. Is leaking a 
>common problem? Also pretty rusty underneath.
>
>It's funny because people selling the cars use words like "Pristine", 
>"Mint", "Absolutely Beautiful". So after schlepping hundreds of miles I 
>find nothing but signs of neglect written all over the car.
>
>I really don't want to go over $20K but so far all the D's I've seen are 
>kinda shabby. Am I being too picky for this price range?
>
>I have a '91 Buick regal with 176K miles on it and it's in MUCH better 
>shape then these D's I've seen. I understand it's 8 years younger but I've 
>been driving this thing through all four seasons (NY suburbs). But it's 
>just a stinkin' Buick that's been moderately cared for. The inside still 
>smells like leather and it's not a rust bucket.
>
>You'd think a person with a car like a DeLorean would take better care of 
>their car.
>
>Also, what's so great about the upside down (to be viewed from the outside) 
>DeLorean signature on the glovebox? Is this supposed to increase the value? 
>I think it looks terrible.
>
>I'm kinda limiting myself because I'm looking for an '83 stick and I don't 
>want to fly around the country looking for one.
>
>Do you think it's a pipe dream to find a $20K '83 stick DeLorean that's 
>been well cared for (at least been garaged) in the NY, NJ, CT areas?
>Thanks in advance for any advice,
>Tony
>
>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 08:12:37 -0500
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: hood adjustment

Walt,
Have you adjusted the rubber tipped posts on the corners near the
windshield?
There is a gasket that is glued to the hood and there is a gasket that is
glued to the fender.  Do you have both of them?

Scott Mueller
DMCNEWS 002981
DOA 5031

-----Original Message-----
From: Walter [mailto:Whalt_at_dml_att.net]
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 10:45 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] hood adjustment


I have a problem with water getting under my hood from the windshield area.
It is particularly a problem from washing the car.  Water splashes from the
windshield and gets in the trunk.

Here is what I have done so far:
Found that gasket was glued in the wrong place.  Removed & replaced gasket.

Found adjustment on hood latch might be too high.  Disassembled and found
that adjustments are already maxed out on their lowest settings.

I tried closing the hood on a dollar bill and the hood does not come down
far enough to grip the dollar at all.  The dollar easily slides out.

Toward the front of the car and on the front sides, the hood grips a dollar
bill just fine.

Compared to the height of the front fenders, the hood is about 6mm too high
on the driver's side and about 3mm on the passenger side.

Am I correct in assuming that the height of the fenders are supposed to be
adjusted to match the door and hood and not the other way around?

What else can I do to make my hood fit tighter to keep water out?  I'm about
ready to file out the adjustment in the latch to make it go lower.  I found
two places for vertical adjustment in the latch mechanism, and both are
already at the end of their travel.

Walt    Tampa, FL



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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:51:27 -0000
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net
Subject: Re: Deceleration Problem

Although your problem could be caused by a vacuum leak I think it is 
more likely caused by a breakdown in the ignition system (bad ignition 
wires and worn spark plugs). Visually inspect all of the hoses, listen 
for hissing at the mode switch (the switch that controls the a/c and 
heat) and check that they are all connected correctly. Play particular 
attention to the hoses in the front of the motor, it is easy to knock 
one loose without knowing it when working in that area. If the problem 
persists after checking the hoses do a complete tune-up replacing air, 
fuel, and oil filters, ignition cap and rotor, ignition wires, spark 
plugs. If there are enough miles on the car (30,000) replace the O2 
sensor and adjust the valves. (It is also possible but unlikely that 
the air sensor plate is not centered or the plunger in the fuel 
mixture unit is sticking.) If this doesn't fix the problem then you 
have to take out the fuel injectors and have them tested and cleaned. 
Since you are a new owner unless you really know the history of the 
car it is best to start off with new parts. You should also pressure 
test the coling system to 15 psi for 15 min. Replace ALL of the hoses 
if any feel too hard or too soft or if any have any bulges. Flush the 
brake and clutch fluid replaceing with Castrol GTLMA DOT 4.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757 



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., ericp_at_dml_t... wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> 
> I'm a newbie to owning a "D", and a newbie to your group.
> As an electrical engineer I'm hoping maybe my experience can help 
> someone in those areas - but for now I'm the one looking for some 
> mechanical help.
> 
> My D is having "Deceleration" problems. When cold or hot, it starts 
> fine, although the idle hunts slightly. The acceleration is smooth 
> and powerful, however on deceleration it "kicks" and feels very 
> choppy.
> 
> I suspect a vacuum related problem, but have no real proof of that - 
> only that it mimicks the symptoms of a car from years before.
> 
> Any suggestions before I seek out a local pro?




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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 10:04:52 -0400
From: "Aaron C." <slider_ten_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Mike DeLuca, Please contact me

  Mike Deluca,

  This is Aaron, the young guy who worked for Rob Grady over the summer who
you met at Rob's party.  I"m interested in knowing more about October's
events.  You can e-mail me at Slider_ten_at_dml_hotmail.com or IM me at SliderTen
Thanks.


  -Aaron C.

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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:27:18 -0000
From: "Jan van de Wouw" <Jan_at_dml_vdWouw.Demon.nl>
Subject: Re: Looking for that D

--- In dmcnews, Some Nut wrote:
>
> I've been searching for a D for quite a while now
> and I'm getting frustrated. They all seem to be quite
> musty smelling inside. Is leaking a common problem?

When I bought my car, it too had a nasty smell inside, easily
explained as the previous owner smoked in the car. Since then 
I have THOUROUGHLY cleaned out the ashtray, cleaned the carpets 
and I have replaced the headliners. It still has a certain smell 
to it, but that's most the leather and my new doorseals. I don't 
mind, because this smell is unique to MY DeLorean; 
I sort of like it actually...

> Also, what's so great about the upside down (to be viewed
> from the outside) DeLorean signature on the glovebox? Is this
> supposed to increase the value? I think it looks terrible.

Think of it this way: how many car owners can say they have an
actual, original autograph by the "inventor" on it? Try that with 
a Ford, a Peugeot or whatever.
And there's a reason the autograph is on the lid: it takes just 
a couple of screws to take it out; dont like it? REMOVE IT!
And if you don't want to spend money on a new lid, swap with 
someone who DOES like the autograph or sell it on eBay...

I also think comparing a 20 year old car to a 12 year old one isn't 
really fair; the available techniques on rustprevention progress
really fast, so 8 years is a hell of a difference...

IMHO you're absolutely far too picky, even for the pricerange you're 
considering. I bought my "Dagger" for roughly $13k and as it looks
now the $20k-rule will probably apply to my car too in a year or two.
But meanwhile I'm having great fun driving AND maintaining my car.

If you want a good, drivable and safe car right away, fork out the 
extra cash and buy a refurbished one from DMC Houston.
Might cost you a little mor, but you're getting what you pay for...

Jan van de Wouw
Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

#05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 15:02:26 -0000
From: graves_14_at_dml_hotmail.com
Subject: Gas smell from AC fan vents

Hi all,

  It's been a while since I've had to write to the group. I'm having 
a gas smell that comes into the cabin through the vents (I think). 
When I first got the car last winter, I didn't notice this. But now 
when the weather is hot, I tent to really smell it when I pull off 
the highway and stop a light or something. I'm almost positive it is 
coming in through the AC vents. I read message #15046, and think it 
may be related to this, but I just want to make sure. My wife gets 
an "instant headache" when this happens!

  There are NO signs of leakage anywhere. I don't know what kind of 
gas tank cap I have, but it is black and has a lock on it. It never 
really felt like it was very snug fitting; I also never lock it. The 
intake for the fan looks to be on the opposite side from the tank cap 
though.... does this stink tranfer really happen?

Thanks,

Tyler 
#3472




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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 15:11:02 -0000
From: graves_14_at_dml_hotmail.com
Subject: New England area D repairs

I know this has been asked (by me actually) for the Massachusetts 
area, but I'm expanding my request to include a larger radius. I may 
need some work on the suspension and drivetrain someday, and I really 
want a repair shop that knows what they are doing. I got a few 
suggestions to go to a local shop in Hopkinton, MA but when I called 
they said "we've worked on one delorean. We can TRY to take a look at 
it".... NO THANKS. I can TRY to fix it myself, that's not the point. 
I want it done right. I know if all else fails I can go to PJ, but 
that is a tad too far. Perhaps somewhere in Vermont, NH, or Conn?

Thanks,

Tyler 
#3472




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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 15:36:55 EDT
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Deceleration Problem

Newbie, Yes you could have a vacuum problem. Most 20 year old cars do. But 
also the air flow meter may need to be adjusted. Since the 02 sensor is a two 
wire w/o a preheater, the Idle will be a little rought till it warms up. Then 
02  sensor thru the Lambda/ECU will adjust the Frequency valve to adjust the 
air/fuel mixture. After it warms up and you still have the seeking Idle, I 
would adjust the air flow meter. You can see a lot of info on my web site 
about it.
John Hervey
   http://www.specialtauto.com/fuelsystems.shtml



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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 16:57:28 -0000
From: "Jim Reeve" <ultra_at_dml_isd.net>
Subject: Re: Deceleration Problem

Check to make sure that your idle switch is being tripped and 
operating proporly.  It is located behind the throttle spool right by 
the throttle plates.  If it isn't working right, it will cause very 
rough and choppy deceleration.  I experimented one day disconnecting 
mine so the engine would turn faster when idleing, thus giving me 
more power from the alternator.  EVERY time I coasted in gear, no 
matter what speed and what gear I was in, it was rough.  Needless to 
say I didn't leave the car like this for very long at all.

Jim Reeve
MNDMC - Minnesota DeLorean Club
DMC-6960

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., ericp_at_dml_t... wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> 
> I'm a newbie to owning a "D", and a newbie to your group.
> As an electrical engineer I'm hoping maybe my experience can help 
> someone in those areas - but for now I'm the one looking for some 
> mechanical help.
> 
> My D is having "Deceleration" problems. When cold or hot, it starts 
> fine, although the idle hunts slightly. The acceleration is smooth 
> and powerful, however on deceleration it "kicks" and feels very 
> choppy.
> 
> I suspect a vacuum related problem, but have no real proof of that -
 
> only that it mimicks the symptoms of a car from years before.
> 
> Any suggestions before I seek out a local pro?




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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:08:52 -0400
From: "Thomas Long" <trl2_at_dml_mindspring.com>
Subject: Directions to the SEDOC Cruise-In

Directions to the SEDOC Cruise-In on Sept 15,16 2001

The Cruise-In is being held at the Olympic Rowing/Kayak Venue on the shore of Lake Lanier in Gainesville, GA.  To get there:

Get on to I-985 north of Atlanta.  This branches off of I-85 at exit 113 and goes north past Gainesville.  Take exit 24, Jesse Jewell, and turn west.  Go about 0.4 miles to the intersection of Rte 129.  Go West about 1.5 miles to Clarks Bridge Rd.  Signs will point to the Rowing/Kayak Venue.  Go North about a mile and you will see the venue on the left.

Coming from the north down I-85 toward Atlanta, get off at exit 137 on state route 129 and go west to Gainesville.  When 129 crosses I-985, you can either get on to I-985 and go north one exit to exit 24 and follow the directions above, OR, you can stay on Rte 129, NOT BUSINESS RTE 129, and it will make a right angle turn at the first light and lead you, in a couple of miles, to Clarks Bridge Rd and the Rowing/Kayak Venue. 


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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 21:44:54 -0400
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: hood adjustment

Scott,
Yep, I have the gasket that is glued to the hood.  It was glued on too close
to the outside edges, so I had to take it off and glue it back on where it
belongs.

I have the gaskets that are glued to the fenders also.  Both mine have
shrunk noticeably with age but they otherwise are doing their job.

None of the gaskets seem to be interferring with the hood closing.  The
rubber-tipped posts at the corners of the windshield seem to be fine.  The
hood doesn't close far enough for these posts to do any good.

I think I am going to have to file out the adjustment holes in the latch
mechanism to get more room for adjustment.

Thanks,
Walt    Tampa, FL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>
> Have you adjusted the rubber tipped posts on the corners near the
> windshield?
> There is a gasket that is glued to the hood and there is a gasket that is
> glued to the fender.  Do you have both of them?





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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 15:29:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>
Subject: 3 Sunstar models

I just noticed that http://www.diecastmuscle.com/ lists sunstar models for
the standard DeLorean, the gold DeLorean, and the Back to the Future
DeLorean. The production cars are slated for November of 2001 and the BTTF
car is listed as December of 2001. I can't wait!

-Christian




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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:16:51 -0000
From: malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com
Subject: Does anyone remember the name?

I remember a while back someone posting a message about a company 
that will insure classic cars without restrictions for driving to 
work or the mall.

There was a link in the post, if I remember correctly..  The web page 
it was for advertised the fact that they alow their customers to 
DRIVE their cars.

I have searched the archives, and have not been able to find the 
message.  If anyone has the information (or you posted it in the 
first place) please send it to me.


PLEASE DONT make this a long thread about Insurance again...  The 
group (I'm sure) is sick of it already!  

and.... Hagerty WILL NOT let you drive the car to work or the mall, I 
just called them again to verify.





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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:30:42 -0400
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>
Subject: RE: Does anyone remember the name?

www.grundy.com

Cant be used as a daily driver
must be kept in a garage
must be over 25 to drive
I pay them $260 a year for full coverage for $17k (appriased value of my
car)

-----Original Message-----
From: malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com [mailto:malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 6:17 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Does anyone remember the name?


I remember a while back someone posting a message about a company
that will insure classic cars without restrictions for driving to
work or the mall.

There was a link in the post, if I remember correctly..  The web page
it was for advertised the fact that they alow their customers to
DRIVE their cars.

I have searched the archives, and have not been able to find the
message.  If anyone has the information (or you posted it in the
first place) please send it to me.


PLEASE DONT make this a long thread about Insurance again...  The
group (I'm sure) is sick of it already!

and.... Hagerty WILL NOT let you drive the car to work or the mall, I
just called them again to verify.




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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 21:39:51 -0500
From: "Mike Griese" <mike.griese_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: Gas smell from AC fan vents

You really should lock the gas cap or replace it with 
a non-locking cap.  The lock mechanism is what tightens
the cap to the filler neck.

Another place to look for leaks is to remove the access
panel underneath the spare tire.  This will expose the 
top of the fuel tank where the fuel pump and the
sending unit are installed.  Examine the gaskets around
the fuel pump and the sender for checking or leaks.  You 
can also examine the filler hoses and vent hose for leaks.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: graves_14_at_dml_hotmail.com [mailto:graves_14_at_dml_hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:02 AM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Gas smell from AC fan vents


Hi all,

  It's been a while since I've had to write to the group. I'm having 
a gas smell that comes into the cabin through the vents (I think). 
When I first got the car last winter, I didn't notice this. But now 
when the weather is hot, I tent to really smell it when I pull off 
the highway and stop a light or something. I'm almost positive it is 
coming in through the AC vents. 




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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 02:46:29 -0000
From: badgeman46_at_dml_hotmail.com
Subject: Re: New England area D repairs

   I'd like to know the answer to this question myself, as 
practically no one in Mass will touch a DeLorean. Very frustrating 
for me. I have heard that Park Ave Motors in Sommerville is the best 
bet, although I have no experience with them myself. Also, for all 
your Bosch K Jetronic needs, there is a shop at the corner of Broad 
st and Main St. In Nashua, NH that is very good, I forget the owners 
name though.

-Jay

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., graves_14_at_dml_h... wrote:
> I know this has been asked (by me actually) for the Massachusetts 
> area, but I'm expanding my request to include a larger radius. I 
may 
> need some work on the suspension and drivetrain someday, and I 
really 
> want a repair shop that knows what they are doing. I got a few 
> suggestions to go to a local shop in Hopkinton, MA but when I 
called 
> they said "we've worked on one delorean. We can TRY to take a look 
at 
> it".... NO THANKS. I can TRY to fix it myself, that's not the 
point. 
> I want it done right. I know if all else fails I can go to PJ, but 
> that is a tad too far. Perhaps somewhere in Vermont, NH, or Conn?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tyler 
> #3472




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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 05:37:42 -0500
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: Gas smell from AC fan vents

Try locking your gas cap.  It will then seal the tank like it is supposed
to.  Also, if the key in the cap is difficult to turn, you may need to take
the cap apart and replace the small o-ring inside.  If the o-ring is
missing, you will need to install one so you will not have fumes leaking
out.  You should be able to purchase a replacement cap.

Scott Mueller
DMCNEWS 002981
DOA 5031

-----Original Message-----
From: graves_14_at_dml_hotmail.com [mailto:graves_14_at_dml_hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 10:02 AM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Gas smell from AC fan vents


Hi all,

SNIPPED

  There are NO signs of leakage anywhere. I don't know what kind of
gas tank cap I have, but it is black and has a lock on it. It never
really felt like it was very snug fitting; I also never lock it. The
intake for the fan looks to be on the opposite side from the tank cap
though.... does this stink tranfer really happen?

Thanks,

Tyler
#3472




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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 23:55:42 -0400
From: "Flash66" <flash66_at_dml_stealthport.com>
Subject: Re: Gas smell from AC fan vents

Hi Tyler,

    From my own experience, Whenever I spill a little drop of fuel around
the filler area (as we all have done) ,and drive off I can smell gas for a
fair amount of time from the vents. Gasoline is some bad smelling stuff
,especially if something is venting fumes into the open . Without a doubt
you should replace
that 7-11 store gas cap with a Delorean replacement . Your fuel system
builds pressure
while running and builds up even higher in hot weather. Ever get a good hiss
from a gas cap filling up on a hot day?  The right cap has a good tight seal
which will let the vapor/fumes trap in the charcoal canister.  For visually
stimulating thought, that cap is only 10 inches away from a big gaping hole
in a tank full of fuel connected by a rubber hose. Seal it up man!!
Good luck !
-Paul 83

----- Original Message -----
From: <graves_14_at_dml_hotmail.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 11:02 AM
Subject: [DML] Gas smell from AC fan vents


> Hi all,
>
>   It's been a while since I've had to write to the group. I'm having
> a gas smell that comes into the cabin through the vents (I think).
> When I first got the car last winter, I didn't notice this. But now
> when the weather is hot, I tent to really smell it when I pull off
> the highway and stop a light or something. I'm almost positive it is
> coming in through the AC vents. I read message #15046, and think it
> may be related to this, but I just want to make sure. My wife gets
> an "instant headache" when this happens!
>
>   There are NO signs of leakage anywhere. I don't know what kind of
> gas tank cap I have, but it is black and has a lock on it. It never
> really felt like it was very snug fitting; I also never lock it. The
> intake for the fan looks to be on the opposite side from the tank cap
> though.... does this stink tranfer really happen?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tyler
> #3472
>
>
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