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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 711
Date: Thursday, September 20, 2001 10:07 AM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. My hotbar image. (dmc collage)
From: "Jeff" <Gr8old1_at_dml_aol.com>

2. Dead speedo and hard shifting
From: "Mike Allred" <mallred_at_dml_roava.net>

3. Re: Spare tire Question/Idea.
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net

4. Re: vin plate
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net

5. Hello all, from a new member!
From: sharksigns_at_dml_yahoo.com

6. RE: Dead speedo and hard shifting
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>

7. Re: Your Insurance is WHAT?!?!
From: badgeman46_at_dml_hotmail.com

8. Re: Your Insurance is WHAT?!?!
From: aabclafon_at_dml_aol.com

9. Re: Cadillac alternator
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

10. Re: Hello all, from a new member!
From: RJRavalli_at_dml_AOL.com

11. RE: Steering Problem
From: "Jack Singer" <jsinger_at_dml_i-c.net>

12. Re: Dead speedo and hard shifting
From: knut.s.grimsrud_at_dml_intel.com

13. Death of vin#1657 :(
From: "Derrick Viane" <clarion9375r_at_dml_hotmail.com>

14. RE: Death of vin#1657 :(
From: "Jim Geisinger" <jim_at_dml_sellershomenetwork.com>

15. RE: Death of vin#1657 :(
From: "Mark Cook" <mark_at_dml_wizwarecomputers.com>

16. Re: Death of vin#1657 :(
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com

17. Re: Death of vin#1657 :(
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

18. Re: Dead speedo and hard shifting
From: François Laplante <laplanca_at_dml_videotron.ca>

19. Where is this valve??
From: "Eric" <ericp_at_dml_tampabay.rr.com>

20. Re: Your Insurance is WHAT?!?!
From: "Michael Quinto" <mquinto_at_dml_mediaone.net>

21. Insurance Threads
From: "David Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

22. Insurance... A BIG Thank You!
From: Vin 15596 <DecaturDeLorean_at_dml_delorean.com>

23. ADMIN NOTE: YahooGroup DML Photo Album now available
From: "David Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

24. Show Schedule for the West Coast DeLorean show this weekend
From: "Montgomery, Ken" <kenm_at_dml_csus.edu>

25. Re: Cadillac alternator
From: shirazcupala_at_dml_home.com





Message: 1
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 00:12:58 -0000
From: "Jeff" <Gr8old1_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: My hotbar image. (dmc collage)

 Hi everyone, i just wanted to let you all know that i have made a 
collage image of Deloreans for everyone to enjoy and use in Hotbar. 
For those of you who do not know, Hotbar is an application that 
replaces your Internet Explorer toolbar's grey background with an 
image of your choosing. their site is located at 
http://www.hotbar.com .

If you already have hotbar, the image file is located here on my 
website.
http://www.88-mph.com/images/dmcbar.bmp

if you want to preview the image i have it on this link:
http://www.88-mph.com/images/dmcbar.jpg

The Images are taken from the following wonderful dmc owners:

Frank, from the Danbury CT. area (I forgot your last name!), who 
invited me down back in July for the get-together along with 2 other 
owners at the local cruise night. I had a heck of a time, Thanks for 
the cokes! I snapped the pic for the D in the upper right corner 
(nose clip).

Dave,(never caught your last name.) Whom, as it turns out works for 
the same company that i do. (Sikorsky Aircraft) I snapped the pic of 
his D with the doors open in the left of the image.

Steve, also in attendance that evening, had a very good example of a 
D, it kept getting all the glances! JZD's autograph is courtesy of 
the pic i took of his glove compartment lid.

Mark Shields, whose BTTF replica appears in the lower right.

Unknown person, who uploaded the image of the dealership sign, seen 
on the left, into the Delorean files directory.

And the gentleman from Hopkinton, MA. who sent me pictures of the 
centerpiece of this image. He was selling it at the time, i wish i 
could have bought!

I am looking to make some more collages, and would love to have 
pictures of D list member's vehicles. Needed are High quality images 
preferably of size 1028x768 or 800x600.

Comments are welcome, as well are submissions, email me at Gr8old1(AT)
aol.com

Jeff Chabotte
Norwich, CT

Striving for the dream.

 




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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:26:12 -0700
From: "Mike Allred" <mallred_at_dml_roava.net>
Subject: Dead speedo and hard shifting

I have two problems; 1- speedometer just stopped working, the needle just
doesn't work. 2- Manual transmission is hard to get into gear when it gets
hot. When cold it shifts just fine.

Can anyone shed any light on my problem.

Mike



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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:57:26 -0000
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net
Subject: Re: Spare tire Question/Idea.

This procedure is not recomended but it works. Take the spare tire to 
a tire shop that will be comfortable in demounting and remounting the 
spare. Ask if they have Camel Bead Sealer or equivelent. Have them 
apply liberaly to the bead of the tire and rim. The problem with the 
spare is that it does not seal well at the bead of the rim and by 
using the Bead Sealer it will now hold air. It should be checked at 
least monthly but my spare holds 60 psi and now doesn't leak. Before 
doing this it wouldn't hold air for 1 day! If they are a little sloppy 
with the sealer just clean it up when you get home. Keep a large 
plastic bag and a bungee cord with the spare just in case you ever 
have to use it! The flat tire can be placed either on the passenger 
seat or on top of the engine cover with the bungee cord holding the 
sunshade (in the plastic bag). If you inspect your tires weekly 
including air pressure and replace when the tread indicators show your 
chances of needing the spare are low.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., DMCVegas_at_dml_l... wrote:
> Ok, here's a question that I have, that I've never seen on the DML 
> before. My spare tire is unable to hold air, so I can't really use 
it 
> in an emergency. I'm also not too keen on carrying a can of fix-a-
> flat around since it gets way too hot in the summer time. So, here's 
> my question. Can I use the tire sealant on my spare tire to keep air 
> in, and be able to use my tire? Is there a danger of any kind since 
> the rubber is so old? If nothing else, is it possible to buy a new 
> spare tire? Obviously a differant size, I've seen that the Goodyear 
> temporary spare on the Jeep Wrangler has to exact same tread 
pattern. 
> So I know that Goodyear still makes spares.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> -Robert
> vin 6585




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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:03:13 -0000
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net
Subject: Re: vin plate

When I was in the wharehouse in Colombus in 1998 Leif Montin, the 
former parts manager, was working for DMC at the time and showed me a 
cardfile that he said contained vin #s, dealer lists and frame #s. He 
said it wasn't complete but there was a lot of info that someday would 
(time permitting) be made available. For further info contact James 
Espey as he might know what became of it.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> To my knowledge, the number plate on the frames never match the VIN 
plates
> on the dash and door opening (although they seem to be close on many 
cars).
> Perhaps they meant them to match at one time, but in the end, none 
of the
> cars were assembled that way.  Also as far as I know, there is no 
record
> that keeps track of what frame number was used on which cars.  
Unless anyone
> can say otherwise, it is safe to assume that the number on your 
frame is
> completely arbitrary and has no relevance.
> 
> Walt    Tampa, FL




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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:56:40 -0000
From: sharksigns_at_dml_yahoo.com
Subject: Hello all, from a new member!

Just a quick intro.  
I don't know how I haven't found you until now but I'm glad I did.  I 
have owned my 1981 Delorean(vin#2602)since new and love to talk about 
problems and solutions with everyone.  My DMC has been stored most of 
it's life and now I have decided it's time to bring it out much more 
often.  Reading past postings has been enlightening as to just how 
many people still love this car.  I live in the St. Louis area and 
own my own sign business.  Having owned my car since new, I bring 
some experiences that may be helpful.  Thanks for welcoming me into 
your group.  I hope to gain and contribute any knowledge I can.

Mark Seper
Shark Signs, Inc.
1661 N. Church St.
Belleville, IL 62221
sharksigns_at_dml_yahoo.com




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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:51:21 -0400
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>
Subject: RE: Dead speedo and hard shifting

1.  You probably need a new angle drive

2.  You need to upgrade your plastic clutch line to a steel braided.

Both parts can be purchased from your favorite DMC parts vendor.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Allred [mailto:mallred_at_dml_roava.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 2:26 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Dead speedo and hard shifting


I have two problems; 1- speedometer just stopped working, the needle
just
doesn't work. 2- Manual transmission is hard to get into gear when it
gets
hot. When cold it shifts just fine.

Can anyone shed any light on my problem.

Mike




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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:44:24 -0000
From: badgeman46_at_dml_hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Your Insurance is WHAT?!?!

  Stay away from Progressive!!! When I got my D in January, they 
wanted 468 every 6 months for full coverage....until that 6 months 
was over, then they wanted almost 700 DOLLARS! And this is for me, a 
24 year old with no accidents and no tickets. Right now I am with 
Geico for just under 400 every 6, but I'm still shopping around.

-Jay





--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Vin 15596 <DecaturDeLorean_at_dml_d...> wrote:
> I know this thread comes up every month or so, but my jaw just 
drops every time I hear what others are paying for insurance.
> 
> Some pay $500 every SIX months?
> 
> I wish I were you!
> 
> I am paying, hold your laughter, $158 EVERY MONTH!
> I have Progressive, and the only thing Progressing
> are the rates!  It is full coverage and it is an
> agreed value of 25k.
> 
> I have tried Hagerty, Grundy, LeLand-West, etc.
> 
> The problem is that the DMC is my ONLY car.
> I have nothing else.
> 
> I have thought about buying a junker just so I can
> get the incredibly low rates that the above companies
> sell.
> 
> Ugh.
> 
> If anyone has any advice, please email me privately
> or to the list if you think it will help others.
> 
> Until then...
> 
> Here's another 158 bucks sucked down the drain this month!!
> 
> sigh...
> 
> C. Knight
> # 15596
> # 1328 <--- former
> 
> _____________________________________________________________
> Visit the De Lorean Motor Company web site at 
http://www.delorean.com to order your 1/18 scale diecast DeLorean 
model! Initial supplies limited so order soon!




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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:05:03 EDT
From: aabclafon_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Your Insurance is WHAT?!?!

I have State Farm, and I pay around $200.00 every six months for full 
coverage. 

Thanks
Dave L.
#2572



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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:57:48 EDT
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Cadillac alternator

Travis, The cadallic alternator is only 100 amp vs  Delorean 150 at 150 amps.Plenty of power when you need it. The cadallic is also about 1 1/2 times the size of the GM Delco we build. Big bulky looking thing. I also have a friend in Tyler tx. that has put two of them on his car. He said the next one was coming from me.
Hope this helps
John Hervey




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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:34:42 EDT
From: RJRavalli_at_dml_AOL.com
Subject: Re: Hello all, from a new member!

Mark, just curious, but what has led you to decide to take your Delorean out of storage?  Anything specific?

Welcome to the list!

Richard




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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:10:58 -0400
From: "Jack Singer" <jsinger_at_dml_i-c.net>
Subject: RE: Steering Problem

Has anyone changed out the Steering Column Universal Joint?

It looks as if mine is bad since steering is almost impossible.  I had the
car towed on a dolly and it seems to have affected the steering.

It looks easy in the book, however, I have said that in the past and a week
later I am still on the project...

If anyone has done it, please let me know what to watch out for.

Jack 5823 & 2418





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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:57:48 -0000
From: knut.s.grimsrud_at_dml_intel.com
Subject: Re: Dead speedo and hard shifting

1. In addition to checking the angle drive, you might check the lower 
speedo cable. I have had several lower speedo cables croak on me and 
the diagnosis is quite simple (the cable is also a lot cheaper than 
the angle drive).

Incidentally, my lower speedo failure problem appears to be due to 
lubricating the angle drive too much (my shop gives my angle drive a 
shot with each oil change). As a result of grease being pushed into 
the angle drive, the excess appears to push up the lower speedo cable 
causing it to foul.

I uspect that if I simply have them disconnect the speedo cable 
before lubing the angle drive the problem will be solved as the 
excess grease won't foul the lower speedo cable. Maybe a lighter lube 
would be beneficial as well.

           Knut

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_p...> wrote:
> 1.  You probably need a new angle drive
> 
> 2.  You need to upgrade your plastic clutch line to a steel braided.
> 
> Both parts can be purchased from your favorite DMC parts vendor.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Allred [mailto:mallred_at_dml_r...]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 2:26 PM
> To: dmcnews_at_dml_y...
> Subject: [DML] Dead speedo and hard shifting
> 
> 
> I have two problems; 1- speedometer just stopped working, the needle
> just
> doesn't work. 2- Manual transmission is hard to get into gear when 
it
> gets
> hot. When cold it shifts just fine.
> 
> Can anyone shed any light on my problem.
> 
> Mike




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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:52:56
From: "Derrick Viane" <clarion9375r_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Death of vin#1657 :(

This  is probably the saddest letter I have had to write to the list.  for a 
yet unknown reason this morning my D burned to death.  I have not yet had a 
chance to see it I am told about the only thing salvageable are three out of 
four tires. So in my effort to help I need you(the DML) to provide me with 
some possible explanations for a fire.  all responses are appreciated.

Thank You

Derrick



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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 18:51:25 -0500
From: "Jim Geisinger" <jim_at_dml_sellershomenetwork.com>
Subject: RE: Death of vin#1657 :(

I don't have an explanation, but I do have an extra Delorean if you want to
replace it.  It is vin # about 4800 (I can't remember those things.)  I want
to sell it to raise some capital for my business.  The clutch does slip so I
am selling it for $14,500.  It has 11,000 actual miles...no body damage.
Good interior. Runs well.

My number is 612-868-7653 (Minneapolis area)

Sincerely,

Jim Geisinger
Owner / Broker / G.R.I. / C.R.S. / C.B.R
sellers home network
"We Make You A Smarter Seller"


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From:
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st.com
[mailto:sentto-1154320-11862-1000942780-jim=sellershomenetwork.com_at_dml_retur
ns.onelist.com]On Behalf Of Derrick Viane
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 7:53 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Death of vin#1657 :(


This  is probably the saddest letter I have had to write to the list.  for a
yet unknown reason this morning my D burned to death.  I have not yet had a
chance to see it I am told about the only thing salvageable are three out of
four tires. So in my effort to help I need you(the DML) to provide me with
some possible explanations for a fire.  all responses are appreciated.

Thank You

Derrick



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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:49:51 -0600
From: "Mark Cook" <mark_at_dml_wizwarecomputers.com>
Subject: RE: Death of vin#1657 :(

I offer my condolences. I'm so sorry that happened.

Can you tell us more about the situation? How long had it been between
the time you drove it and the time it started on fire? What were the
last couple of things done to it (maintenance-wise)? Did it behave oddly
ever? (electrical weirdness? engine hesitation?) Did you notice anything
unusual? Is anything in the wiring not stock?

I have only had my D for a week or so, but know a fair amount about
cars. I'll help hypothesize any way I can.

Mark
#10901

-----Original Message-----
From: Derrick Viane [mailto:clarion9375r_at_dml_hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 1:53 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Death of vin#1657 :(


This  is probably the saddest letter I have had to write to the list.
for a 
yet unknown reason this morning my D burned to death.  I have not yet
had a 
chance to see it I am told about the only thing salvageable are three
out of 
four tires. So in my effort to help I need you(the DML) to provide me
with 
some possible explanations for a fire.  all responses are appreciated.

Thank You

Derrick



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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 01:36:17 -0000
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com
Subject: Re: Death of vin#1657 :(

With any vehicle there can be speculation and possible causes as to 
why it may have caught fire. Before anyone would truly be able to 
guess (on the list or otherwise) they/we would need a bit more 
information as to what happened. Since you were not with the car, 
where was it? Mechanic shop, garage, storage, parking lot, etc... 
Then there would be questions about retracing the cars steps up 
untill the disaster. Mechanical work performed, any unusual damage to 
the vehicle that may have occured, etc... The surounding area where 
it was at the time will be of concern too. Where was it, what was it 
doing there, and what if any other property was damaged. How was the 
fire discovered, and what stopped it?

I'm sure that you have the sympathies of everyone here on the list, 
and we all want to help you out. But we will need a bit more info. 
Speculation is easy, a hypothesis takes work...

-Robert
vin 6585



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Derrick Viane" <clarion9375r_at_dml_h...> wrote:
<SNIP>
...So in my effort to help I need you(the DML) to provide me with 
> some possible explanations for a fire.  all responses are 
appreciated.
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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 02:07:05 EDT
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Death of vin#1657 :(

Derrick,

my sincerest condolences to you on your loss.  you are right - this is definitely the saddest letter i have ever read on email in my life.... just be thankful your car didn't catch fire with you or someone else in it....

in order to determine what could have caused the fire (which would be endless speculation w/o seeing the car anyway), we'd have to know if the car was running or not, where it was at, how long it had been running, what updates have you done to your electrical compartment, any symptoms or behaviors in the recent past, it would be best to know what part the fire started in (front, passenger compartment, engine area).  there are many ways to start a fire and i don't think anyone on this list can tell you for sure. we can only speculate.

i would assume that you had some bad wiring in your electrical compartment.  for instance, my fan-fail jumper had a poor connection in it causing the wiring to blow both fuses and begin to melt the fuse holders.  if i had the windows all the way down and i had a strong air freshener, i might not have known i had a problem until it actually ignited.  i was able to catch it while it was hot and smelling icky.

again - i'm really sorry to hear about your car. i would be devastated if my car burned to the ground too.  feel free to email me any time!

Andy

> This  is probably the saddest letter I have had to write to the list.  for a 
> yet unknown reason this morning my D burned to death.  I have not yet had a 
> chance to see it I am told about the only thing salvageable are three out of 
> four tires. So in my effort to help I need you(the DML) to provide me with 
> some possible explanations for a fire.  all responses are appreciated.
> 
> Thank You
> 
> Derrick
> 
> 
> 
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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 09:25:12 -0400
From: François Laplante <laplanca_at_dml_videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: Dead speedo and hard shifting

Concerning your hard shifting, you should first try to lubricate (white
grease) your shifter. You have to dismount the front panel (the panel
surrounding the shifter) and apply grease on the front shift linkages
(directly under the shifter).

I do that twice a year and every time shifting is again an easy task.
Without grease, it becomes hell.


François Laplante
VIN 17145





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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 02:22:39 -0000
From: "Eric" <ericp_at_dml_tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Where is this valve??

Folks, I need help (or at least someone to tell me I'm not totally 
insane!)

I'm following the instructions of the seasoned D owners here o this 
group. Trying to troubleshoot some problems, I was checking all of 
the vacuum lines - following the chart in the engine compartment and 
the pictures in the tech. manual.

I found out that the vacuum lines do not all go where they are 
supposed to. I'm trying to find the Thermal Control Valve (which 
should be just to the right of the air intake plate assembly)...

I can't find it. Moreover - the hoses that should lead to it, do not. 
(this is why I went searching for it; I believe I have a spark 
advance problem).

Am I looking in the wrong place? Is it not exactly where the picture 
specifies? Is it possible that it could have been removed - (and then 
would the engine even run at all ??? which it does.) 

I know how this sounds, I'm really not that dense...but I just don't 
see it.  Any guidance or experience would be appreciated.
Thanks

Eric
Vin# 5557

delorean_at_dml_tampabay.rr.com




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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 21:10:42 -0700
From: "Michael Quinto" <mquinto_at_dml_mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: Your Insurance is WHAT?!?!

Hello List,
  I also have State Farm insurance and I wish I paid what you guys are
paying for your "full" insurance coverage.
I am posting this itemized list of what my insurance covers. And I would
also like to please ask everyone who has there DeLorean's insured with State
farm as well to please post or send me privately a copy of there itemized
statement.
I wouldn't normally ask this but I would like to see if I am being hosed.

A. Liability
     Bodily injury 100,000/300,000
     Property Damage 50,000              $442.16

C.  Medical Payments 5,000              $106.62

D.  500 Deductible Comprehensive    $202.15

G.  500 Deductible Collision               $558.58

H.  Emergency Road Service              $2.88

R1. Car Rental & Travel Expense
       80% Per Day, $500 Max             $13.44

U.  Unisured Motor Vehicle
      Bodily Injury 100,000/300,000      $121.47

U1. Uninsured Motor Vehicle
       Property Damage                          $7.07

Total Premiums                                    $1,454.37

You have to take in a count that I have 1 point on my record for speeding.
And I live in L.A. County.
Regards
Mike
Vin#1113




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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 03:57:35 -0000
From: "David Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: Insurance Threads

This comes up a lot on the list and is obviously a popular topic, but 
please remember that comparing car insurance costs without knowing 
your location, age, driving record, and term of insurance (6 months, 
1 year, etc) is like comparing apples and watermelons. 

I guarantee that the same company insuring the a 16-year-old in New 
York will charge considerably (5x) more than for a 45-year-old in 
Iowa. Give one of them a bad record or a DWI or two and it gets even 
worse. 

Dave Swingle <==not an insurance guy but I've been buying it for 30 
years......




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Message: 22
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 07:37:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Vin 15596 <DecaturDeLorean_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Insurance... A BIG Thank You!

To this week's moderator:
 If you would please let this message post and close the thread, that would be great!!!!  I know the insurance thread comes up every so often and I think this one was directed to me as far as replies go.  Thanks for letting me clutter everyone's mailbox!!

Dear Group,
  I would like to thank EVERYONE who responded back to me about helping me find cheaper insurance.  My mailbox was flooded with replies.  I dropped my progressing Progressive insurance and found a State Farm agent who quoted me $514 every six months.  Of course, that will drop when I get married and take out a homeowners policy, so I can't complain!

Again, thanks to everyone who took the time to email me or the list with the insurance advice.  It is MUCH appreciated.

Colby Knight

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Message: 23
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 03:40:24 -0000
From: "David Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: ADMIN NOTE: YahooGroup DML Photo Album now available

Looks like YahooGroups finally got around to adding the photo album 
function to the DML YahooGroup. You can access this at 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews and follow the "Photos" link. 
This has more storage space than the files section and has a nicer 
preview function. 

Please - for the benefit of the rest of us, use your photo editing 
software to reduce the photo size to something manageable - 30-50k is 
about right. 

Dave Swingle




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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 22:24:22 -0700
From: "Montgomery, Ken" <kenm_at_dml_csus.edu>
Subject: Show Schedule for the West Coast DeLorean show this weekend

  Hi everyone, I wanted to let you all see the schedule for our show this
weekend. The WTC tragedy has pressed back being able finalize some of our
events until now. For everyone who's coming, a copy of the schedule will be
in your goody bags at registration.

Show Schedule

Thursday - Sept. 20
Reception at the Marriott:  6:30PM to 10:00PM in the Danville room.
Hors D'oeuvres, Cash bar available from 6:30PM to 9:00PM

Friday - Sept. 21

Driving tour to Wente Vineyards
	Caravan from the Marriott begins at 10:00AM. 
	(maps are provided)
Wine tasting and tour at 11:00AM
	Lunch at the Visitor's Center at 12:30PM.

Blackhawk tour and Banquet (better attire preferred)
Caravan from the Marriott to the Blackhawk at 4:00PM.
		(a map is provided)
You may enter and tour the museum beginning at 5:00PM until 10PM.
Dinner begins at 6:30PM.

Saturday - Sept. 22

Car Show and Dealers Room hours are from 10:00AM to 4:00PM.
Technical Seminar times will be posted outside the Seminar room.
Awards Banquet begins at 7:00PM in the Contra Costa Ballroom. 

Sunday - Sept. 23

Driving tour to the U.S.S. Hornet
		Caravan will leave the hotel at 10:00AM 
		Our tour of the ship will begin at 11:00AM



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Message: 25
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 05:56:13 -0000
From: shirazcupala_at_dml_home.com
Subject: Re: Cadillac alternator

I just did this 2 weeks ago.  Works great.

I bought the alternator at NAPA ($150) because they have the 
superior Beck-Arnley remans instead of the cheapie Schucks ones.    
It was $50 more but I'd rather not run into trouble for relatively 
little money. They took my Motorola as a core with no questions.

To get it to work you have to get that J bracket.  The only place I 
found one was at a larger Schucks store.  I had to modify it 
slightly by drilling another hole lower down and sawing off the 
extra length.  I also got the wiring harness adapter (also required) 
from Schucks too. Email me privately for part numbers.

Also check this instructions page which helped me a lot to 
understand and confirm the wiring config: 
http://www.dmcman.homestead.com/Alternator.html
Note I did not need to do the pivot alternator bracket modification 
listed here.

100A works just fine in my car.  My volt readings are roughly as 
follows:

850 RPM, 13v - all accessories off
850 RPM, 11.5v - headlights, cooling fans, blower on high, rear 
defrost on (I have no a/c)
1000+ RPM, 13.5v+ - no matter what is running

Checking voltage under load is key.

Please note that these readings are me just looking at the gauge.  I 
was worried that this cheaper alternator (compared to the other ones 
mentioned on the DML or a BOSCH volvo replacement) was inferior 
because of the low output at low rpms.  However, another PNDC club 
member and I were comparing volt gauge readings since he has a BOSCH 
105A reman alternator ($250+ unit)and we get about the same 
readings.  The only nice thing about his is you can use the stock 
bracket and it's smaller in overall size.  Be forewarned, the 
Cadillac one is HUGE, but does fit.

Note as part of this I cleaned the major rear grounds but have not 
cleaned the major front grounds.  That made a huge, huge difference 
(I checked the gauge readings before and after).  The next chance I 
get I will clean the front ones and possibly do the mod to add an 
additional heavy duty ground wire from the front grounds to the rear 
negative terminal / ground to really ensure good front ground.  The 
volt gauge really dips on the headlights and fans which suggests to 
me that the ground up there is not as good in my car right now.  
I've read about this in several other posts here.

Shiraz

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DeLorean #2860
http://members.home.net/shirazcupala/delorean/
Seattle, WA
shirazcupala_at_dml_home.com





--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., tgoodwin_at_dml_v... wrote:
> I was hunting on the web and found this site:
> 
> http://personal.picusnet.com/dsontos/7157.htm
> 
> He talks about replacing the Ducellier with a 1980 Cadillac 100 
Amp. 
> Has anyone tried this or confirmed this?
> 
> Travis
> #3512




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