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Date: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 5:30 PM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Acceleration Lag
From: "David Swingle" <>

2. FINALY this is my airbox!
From: "Cameron Putsch" <>

3. Re: RE: door openers

4. Re: Re: JZD's cadillac dealership
From: Mike Substelny <>

5. DeLorean Tour Oct 27 & 28

6. Fw: my attitude about DeLorean (long)
From: "Chris Parnham" <>

7. Re: Acceleration Lag

8. Re: RE: door openers

9. Some Speedo troubles
From: "K Creason" <>

10. Re: Re: my attitude about DeLorean (long)
From: "Walter" <>

11. Re: Whose Delorean is this??
From: "Chris Parnham" <>

12. New Owner Questions

13. RE: 3 types of "pullstraps", and stuff for sale!
From: "Marc A. Levy" <>

14. Re: FINALY this is my airbox!
From: "Walter" <>

15. Re: a/c pulley bearings bad design
From: "Walter" <>

16. BTTF Pinball and Fall Tour and Radios

17. Re: convex side mirrors!
From: Martin Gutkowski <>

18. Re: JZD's cadillac dealership
From: Josh Haldeman <>

19. Re: Re: my attitude about DeLorean (long)

20. Re: It's not every day that you meet John Delorean....Or is it?
From: "Joseph Molino" <>

21. Mid-State DeLorean Club Web Site is down
From: "Mark" <>

22. Re: FINALY this is my airbox!

23. Rims/Tires Options?
From: "dan g." <>

24. Re: FINALY this is my airbox!

25. Heated Mirrors
From: Jan van de Wouw <>

Message: 1
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 21:58:07 -0000
From: "David Swingle" <>
Subject: Re: Acceleration Lag

The problem may be that you are expecting a little more out of this 
car than it was designed to deliver. 

It sounds like you are revving it up and "dropping" the clutch. In 
most high performance cars the tires would spin. In the DeLorean, you 
are simply burning up your clutch, since that is where the slipping 
occurs (rather than between tires and pavement). With the heavy rear 
wieght bias and large tires, and relatively high axle ratio, it is 
difficult if not impossible to spin the tires on a stock DeLorean on 
dry pavement.  If you keep testing this you will soon get to see and 
experience what a failed clutch looks and drives like. 

If I am misunderstanding you, my other guess would be that your 
clutch is already on its way out. 

Dave Swingle

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Willie Mack" <wmack_at_dml_v...> wrote:
> My Delorean is a 5 speed manual.  It seems that no matter how high 
I put the
> rpms in first gear.  The car never fully accelerates.  It sits 
there for a
> minute, almost letting the rpms fall until it begins to roll.  I 
can't get a
> good start off the line.  It this a problem with not enough 
horsepower, the
> throttle linkage, or the clutch?
> Thanks
>   Willie Mack
>   Vin 5043


Message: 2
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 11:01:45 +0200
From: "Cameron Putsch" <>
Subject: FINALY this is my airbox!

To see the pics of the air box go to this link and go to techie stuff and then to Cam's airbox! :) Just remember that this is the testing prototype and the ones you all would get will be a whole lot cleaner and shinier, but the basic design is there. They are going to cost in the area of 230-270$  for the custom airbox, all the hardware, and a breather filter. The airbox is definatly worth every penny and in conjunction with a K&N panel air filter (it does however work perfectly fine with a stock filter)allow your car to breath imensly better making it more willing to rev and in turn, faster!(and no, it does NOT get hot and heat up the airflow) So here is my prototype folks I hope you like it. If you have anyquestions, just e-me.

Casey at

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 07:08:31 EDT
Subject: Re: RE: door openers

Mr. Tinnerstet:

Your unit was shown to me at PJ Grady last week, when I had my engine mounts 
replaced and the tranny mounts welded.  

Rob had the assembly unit.  We were discussing the difference between your 
motor assembly unit versus his electric solenoid unit.  Your unit was taken 
apart to expose the electric motor and the plastic gears in its arragement.  

Mr. Tinnerstet, I had contemplating in purchasing your units about a year 
ago, since Rob's units were not available for sale.  I emailed you and you 
were kind enough to have sent me the schematic as to the installation.  I 
decided not to purchase the door openers, due the reasons that I don't have 
the facility nor the time to install ANY kits, either yours or Rob. You see, 
I park my DeLorean in a large city commercial parking complex and they don't 
allow work to be performed on any vehicles.  For me to take to a service 
station to get them installed? ... forget about it.

Your kit is cheaper in price and it would be unfair for me to purchase your 
units and have Rob install them, besides, he is too busy.  If you were near 
me, I would purchase your unit and have you install them.  Since you are in 
Washington and I am in New York -- it is a mission impossible.

So, if and when Rob will have his door openers units for sale in the future, 
and if I am still interested, I will purchase them and have him install them 
to save time and labor. 

Kayo Ong
Lic 9D NY

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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 09:02:22 -0400
From: Mike Substelny <>
Subject: Re: Re: JZD's cadillac dealership

I believe that JZD did own a dealership in Clearwater, Florida but not
Cleveland, Ohio.  I might be wrong, but I think that Charles DeLorean (JZD's
brother) founded Cleveland's DeLorean Cadillac long before JZD left GM.

Either way, DeLorean Cadillac is currently run by Mark DeLorean, who is
Charles' son and JZD's nephew.

- Mike Substelny
Cleveland, Ohio


Message: 5
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 13:39:51 -0000
Subject: DeLorean Tour Oct 27 & 28

For all those people attending The second annual DeLorean Fall
Foliage Tour or thinking about attending, please e-mail me privately .
I need to have an approximate idea of how many people to expect.
Please take a moment and check in with me let me know if you are 
planing to come or still undecided but thinking about it. 

The second annual DeLorean Fall Foliage Tour Fall foliage tour is
less then month away!This should be the largest DeLorean event in the 
Northeast this fall!

This year it will be a two day event Saturday  & Sunday October 27th 
and 28th.

On Saturday the event starts at PJ Gradys in West Sayville N.Y. (631) 
This is guaranteed to be interesting to all DeLorean Enthusiasts.

We will then depart from PJ Gradys and Caravan out to the East End of 
Long Island. This will include a driving tour with stops along the way 
in the Hamptons and finish at the end of Long Island at the Montauk 
Light house and vicinity. We will have dinner in Montauk and Caravan 
back the Hotel in East Hampton for a late check in at East Hampton 
House. We have a special hotel rate of $75 + tax but you must tell 
them you are part of the DeLorean Fall Tour (631) 324-4300 Fax 631 
329-3743 on the web 
Note: The hotel does require a prepaid deposit, they accept credit 
      cards but you will have to send them the signed authorization,  
      call them for details. SPACE IS LIMITED please book this as soon 
       as possible!
Sunday the tour continues and we will take a short ferry ride to 
Shelter Island. I am setting up a road rally on Shelter Island that 
will not only be fun but will also give us the opportunity to explore 
the whole island.  We will depart on a different ferry to the North 
Fork of Long Island. The cost of each ferry is approximately $9 each. 
We will have a late lunch in Green Port and spend some time exploring 
the town.
We will conclude with a winery tour and car show.

This trip will take you through the Long Island you have heard about 
but never seen.
With the help of the people From the DeLorean Mid Atlantic I hope to 
add a few more events during this
Weekend, this will be an event you don't want to miss! 

I  have the registration forms available later  week.

If you think you may want to attend or need more information please 
e-mail me privately at or call me at (631) 
Knowing approximately how many people are interested will make it 
easier to plane this event.
If people from New England need ferry information to get to Long 
Island I can provide that to you.
I will be posting more information as I finalize some of the details.


Michael DeLuca 


Message: 6
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 09:17:47 +0100
From: "Chris Parnham" <>
Subject: Fw: my attitude about DeLorean (long)

 Andy / List,

 There are lots of books, myths, rumour and legends about the whole DeLorean
 I am sure all of them have "truth" in there some where, they are often
 contriductory and always give a different "spin" on events. If all the
 were the same then the later one's would not sell!

 I sometimes get a bit upset when some "youngster" picks up a book or an
 magazine article and then relates this "sudden insight" to every one
Such as it was "all a British government conspiracy", etc. My advice is read
 ALL the books on the subject, think about what you would have done in these
 difficult situations and gradually form a balanced view of historical

 My personal view is that JZD was a man with great insight and talent, he
 eventually produced a car that was different from all the rest. He should
 proud of that. I am very proud to own a piece of this history. I don't
 he was a saint, I don't think he was blameless.  I don't think he was or
 any worse than most of our "Leaders" in politics or industry.  If we could
 re-run our lives again, I am sure we would all change a few
 things..hind-site is a wonderful thing!
 Live the and enjoy the car!

 If I were lucky enough to meet JZD in the street, It would be one of the
 best days on my life!

 Chris P.  DOC UK  ( personal view)


Message: 7
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 04:18:04 -0000
Subject: Re: Acceleration Lag

With a description of these symptoms the first area to check (assuming 
you have good gas in the tank) is the fuel enrichment system. See if 
the frequency valve is buzzing. It is located on the right valve cover 
and should sound like an angry hornet (if it is working you can't help 
but notice it). If it is working then it gets more complicated. Is the 
air filter blocked? Has the fuel filter ever been changed? Maybe you 
need a tune-up and replace all of the spark plugs and wires.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Willie Mack" <wmack_at_dml_v...> wrote:
> My Delorean is a 5 speed manual.  It seems that no matter how high I 
put the
> rpms in first gear.  The car never fully accelerates.


Message: 8
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 09:58:00 EDT
Subject: Re: RE: door openers

Darryl, Here, here, As you know I to have been bashed for products that I 
have come out with and the critics just criticize. What have they brought to 
the table in products or positive feed back or helpful ideas you can do to 
make the product better? Several people on the list have mentioned to me 
about a tweak in the product to make it a little better, to them I thank you. 
As I have said in earlier post some people have nothing better to do that to 
post negative comments or speculation on how they work. To my knowledge, none 
of the people who criticize my work have bought a thing but I'll bet you they 
have pulled lot's of idea's off my web site. That's OK, the good out weighs 
the bad and I'll keep plugging on. Darryl, Keep up the good work. 
John Hervey


Message: 9
Date: Mon Jan 22 20:04:01 PST 1973
From: "K Creason" <>
Subject: Some Speedo troubles

Last week my lower speedo cable broke. I researched my symptoms through the archives and was pretty sure it was the lower speedo cable (which it was) and ordered one from Houston. My research also brought up a message of someone stating that the cable guide sometimes broke or rusted easily and this would put strain on the cable causing it to break. So I ordered one of those guides, too.
The new cable is about a foot shorter than the broken one. My broken cable snaked through the cabin wall and was zip tied close to the frame. This was quite a lot of bends and probably helped contribute to the breakage. Maybe. That's beside the point.
My original cable guide was the simple kind that had a plastic swivel latch instead of the long wire arm. It was working, though I'm not sure it would be enough since this new cable isn't tied off anywhere else. So it's probably good that I replaced it.
While I had the cable off I shot some lithium aerosol grease into the angle drive. I read that you are suppossed to turn the angle drive and remove the bottom screw and lube it through the screw hole, but I couldn't figure out how to turn it, and was afraid to put a pipe wrench on it. #Q1: Info anyone?
So... the new guide is installed, the new cable is installed and it worked great for the rest of the week until this morning. After gassing up I went down a steep drive to the road, and by the time I got passed the next light my speedo is making an awful racket. The needle is moving quite smooth, there isn't a lot of jumping around even from 5-30, which is an improvement over the last cable. But this racket has me a little scared.
I pulled over and check the angle of the cable from the angle drive, it looks good. I gave the arm a little more of a bend to help some, but I'm not sure what it is. The noise really sounds like it's coming from the lambda counter box ( #Q2: that the box in the footwell, right?), but that could just be the place where the sound most echoes.
#Q3: Suggestions anyone?
#Q4: Can some one post some pictures of a good speedo cable routing job?

K. Creason
#4687: 22,409 miles
5sp, grey


Message: 10
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 02:40:02 -0400
From: "Walter" <>
Subject: Re: Re: my attitude about DeLorean (long)


That was a great synopsis about DMC.

Can you tell us where you got your information about the design of the front
crumple tube originally being too strong?

Also, I'm not aware that the trailing arm bolts were ever recalled.  I'm
curious to know if you have any information on this.  I understand that the
problem was that the bolts were good, but they were not torqued properly at
the factory.  If you know of any documentation that discusses the quality of
the bolt itself, I'm curious to hear about it.  So far I have removed
trailing arm bolts from two DeLoreans, and both of them had bent trailing
arm bolts on the passenger side.  Coincidence?

And I got a good laugh about what you said:
>If I belived
> everything a stranger told me about my car, I'd have a helecoptor
> engine made by Ford, and my car would be illegal to drive because
> it's either too fast, or too shiny! :)

So true, so true!

Walt    Tampa, FL


Message: 11
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 08:40:24 +0100
From: "Chris Parnham" <>
Subject: Re: Whose Delorean is this??


We have a yellow one in the UK, it was recently for sale.....I am sure if
its sold.

There may be a photo of it on our website as it was at our "2000 Gaydon

Some of the Lotus test cars were yellow. ..see Stainless Steel Illusion.

Best regards

Chris P  DOC UK

----- Original Message -----
From: <>

> I have always loved DeLoreans, and the color yellow. I want this car.
> Thanks!
> John
> VIN 4275


Message: 12
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 14:12:27 -0000
Subject: New Owner Questions

I just recently purchased my first DeLorean, #6683.  I have done 
plenty of automotive work in the past, but I still have alot to learn 
about DeLoreans.  As a new owner, I have a few hopefully simple 
questions to ask:

1)  How do you remove the dome light?
2)  What is the best way to find out information on the Zilla products 
I keep reading about?
3)  What should my oil pressure read?  Right now mine is reading just 
over 80, which I am betting is not normal.
4)  In order to open the lower engine cover, you have to pull and hold 
the release lever in the car while someone else (or though creative 
use of a long stick) lifts the cover.  If you just pull and release 
the lever, the cover relatches.  Is this a stock irritation, or is it 
not working correctly?
5)  How is the dash illumination supposed to work?  Here is what mine 
does:  With the ignition on, the temp and fan controls are always 
illuminated.  When I turn on the parking lights, the temp and fan 
controls dim, and the headlight and hazard light buttons illuminate, 
as does the instrument cluster.  Only the instrument cluster lighting 
is affected by the illumination brightness knob.  Is some of this not 
working correctly?  How should it work?
6)  My car runs well enought, but it has an acceleration hesitation 
that is severe when the engine is cold, and mild when the engine is 
warm.  By hesitation, I mean opening the throttle tends to choke and 
kill the engine, rather than accelerating it.  Perhaps it just needs 
some adjustment or a tune-up?  Do DeLorean owners, either with or 
without help from various DeLorean service centers, ever get together 
and have tune-up parties?

Thanks for your help!

Scott Arnold (


Message: 13
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 12:02:01 -0400
From: "Marc A. Levy" <>
Subject: RE: 3 types of "pullstraps", and stuff for sale!

Sorry for the confusion..

I got a large number of e-mails asking about buying the pullstraps.
Sorry I did not say, but the pullstraps are not for sale.  Last I
checked these things are only $30, although someone else said they may
no longer be available... is this true?

I'd like to get a answer on why there are 2 different styles of pull
strap.  Maybe no one knows?  I will take a picture of them when I have
some time.

There were also a bunch of people asking about the stripes, so I will be
putting them on EBAY sometime soon.   I had no idea there was such a
demand for them.

Meanwhile, I'd really like to get rid of the door.. but no one asked
about that!  :)

-----Original Message-----
From: Marc A. Levy 
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 10:33 AM
To: DMC News (E-mail)
Subject: [DML] 3 types of "pullstraps", and stuff for sale!

I recently purchased a second DeLorean, and it came with some extra



Message: 14
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 13:55:29 -0400
From: "Walter" <>
Subject: Re: FINALY this is my airbox!


You made the thing out of metal!  Gasp!  Just after we were told on this
list that metal conducts heat too much and doesn't make a good air box.  But
then I have seen many cars with metal air boxes, and your design really
doesn't use that much metal.

We have heard on this list before that DMC Houston is coming up with Stage
1, 2, 3, etc engine upgrades and that some of this includes a better air
intake and exhaust system.  Can you or anyone else venture to say what kind
of air intake DMC Houston is cooking up?

Where did you learn to weld stainless steel like that?  It looks like a
great job.  Do you think there could be any additional improvement by lining
parts of the stainless with a thin layer of foam insulation (which probably
wouldn't look too good).  Or maybe you could make the whole thing out of
Lexan?  I have seen people do creative things with shaping Lexan using a
heat gun.

When you are in production, I think I want one.  :)

Walt    Tampa, FL


Message: 15
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 14:24:20 -0400
From: "Walter" <>
Subject: Re: a/c pulley bearings bad design

Thanks to David Teitelbaum & John Hervey for clearing this up.  The bearing
that went bad was one that came from PJ Grady via DMC Joe.  It has a black
seal and says it is made in China.  Also it has the word PEER and the model
number 6202RS.  So it sounds like I have what you are warning not to use.

I can say that over-tightening my belt was certainly not the problem.
Whenever the belt got a little wet or when cold the belt would slip a little
on hard acceleration.  I could also reach in there and easily turn the
pulleys by hand.

When at the last SEDOC meet, I saw on the PJ Grady table a new set of
pulleys made of gold anodized aluminum which match the color of the pulley
on the PJ Grady water pump.  Can anyone say if there is an advantage to
using an aluminum pulley?  Like maybe better heat dispersion?

I still intend to come up with a better heat shield design.  I'm thinking
about using two sheets of stainless steel or aluminum separated by a small
air space.  The rear-most sheet would come down a little lower and curve
forward at the bottom to make an air scoop.

I'm also thinking about coming up with a rear fascia extension that would
bolt to where the bottom of the fascia bolts and then curve forward to the
bottom of the frame.  The idea is to make a cosmetic improvement.  Whenever
riding behind a DeLorean, I see too much of the frame, oil pan & exhaust
system.  I realize that anything like this could restrict air movement too
much, but I'm thinking about making something out of mesh or perforated (or
slotted) stainless steel.  Clips could bolt it to the tow hooks on the frame
and make the modification completely reversible.  Comments anyone?

Walt    Tampa, FL


Message: 16
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 16:41:47 -0000
Subject: BTTF Pinball and Fall Tour and Radios

I will be bringing a Back To The Future pinball machine to the Fall 
Tour this year. It will be set up at Rob Grady's shop Saturday morning 
on free play for anyone to use. It is also for sale so if anyone is 
interested E-mail me directly or see me Saturday. The machine is all 
cleaned up and "shopped" which means all functions work, all bulbs 
lite, and many new parts are installed.
 On another subject anyone participating in the Fall Tour should 
consider getting at least 1 family band walkie-talkie. It should at 
least get channel 12 squelch 2. Last year we had a lot of fun during 
the driving with the radios as we had a "party line" that we could all 
talk on and give directions and keep all of the cars together.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


Message: 17
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 20:23:30 +0100
From: Martin Gutkowski <>
Subject: Re: convex side mirrors!

Hi Walter

Pretty much all modern cars across europe have a convex portion on the edge of
the driver''s side mirror [pause while I go outside and take a photo] - see
attached. Being in England, mine's a right hand drive car, but I KNOW the convex
mirrors are available for the LHD versions in france, for the left mirror. Note
how not all the mirror is convex. Sorry about the photo, but it's dark now!

I guess the fact that undertaking is legal in the US may have some bearing on
the side the convex mirror is used on.


Walter wrote:

> I have been busy experimenting & practicing on various glass cutting &
> beveling equipment and finally produced some high quality convex side
> mirrors to fit the DeLorean. 


Message: 18
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 09:26:12 -0400
From: Josh Haldeman <>
Subject: Re: JZD's cadillac dealership

    John DeLorean's Brother owned the Cadillac Dealership in
Cleveland....his name is Charles.  Charles recently passed the dealership
onto his son, Mark who was the one who, last year, made an unsuccessful bid
for Cuyahoga County Commissioner.  I have a letter from Mark on my website
if you'd like to check it out.  The address is below.
    My question is whatever happened to John DeLoreans' other brothers?
    I think I recall reading in his autobiography that he had four siblings
all together.  Anyone know?
        VIN 5102
        VIN 15964


Message: 19
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 02:31:21 EDT
Subject: Re: Re: my attitude about DeLorean (long)

In a message dated 10/1/01 4:47:44 PM Central Daylight Time, writes:

> Everytime you ask yourself one of these questions, don't forget to 
> ask yourself that one truely unspeakable question. The one that keeps 
> me up at night.

Robert and other list members,

thanks a lot for your input!  i was unaware that Haddad had admitted to 
falsifying the gold faucet documents!!! that really changes my perspectives 
AGAIN!!!!  such a twisted story DeLorean's is.  but that's what makes the car 
so incredibly unique, right?  I LOVE THIS CAR!

keep up the good conversation,
1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102

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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 16:50:29 -0400
From: "Joseph Molino" <>
Subject: Re: It's not every day that you meet John Delorean....Or is it?

what else did he tell you.  I live in Madison and am cuirous abuot where he
is and what he is doing?

Joseph Molino
Vin 2850

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Abato" <>
Subject: [DML] It's not every day that you meet John Delorean....Or is it?

> Thats right, I bumped into none other then....John Z. Delorean!  He and
> daughter were driving by and he told me he could not resist stoping to


Message: 21
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 21:28:29 -0000
From: "Mark" <>
Subject: Mid-State DeLorean Club Web Site is down

The Mid-State DeLorean Club web site ( )
will be down for another two weeks. It has been down for a few days 
due to the server being physically moved from Illinois to Utah. I had 
hoped to have it up and running today, but we're having problems with 
the ISP we had planned to use out here. I was supposed to have a 
connection and IP addresses waiting for me when we arrived, but 
nothing is working. So we've dumped that ISP and we've just worked 
out an arrangement with Qwest for a DSL hookup, but they have given 
us an installation date two weeks from now.

Please be patient! The web site will return as soon as we have a 

My personal domain: is also down for the same length 
of time. If anyone needs to reach me in the next two weeks please use 
my Yahoo mail address:  mnoeltne(at)


Mark Noeltner
Mid-State DeLorean Club


Message: 22
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 10:49:27 EDT
Subject: Re: FINALY this is my airbox!

Casey, The air box looks great. Is there any way to make the top stainless or 
in your estimation does it looks better with the Lexan. I would want to put 
the Delorean sticker on top also. Have you been forming metal a long time. It 
looks good. Let me be the first to order one. 
John hervey


Message: 23
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 13:40:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: "dan g." <>
Subject: Rims/Tires Options?

I was wondering what are some of the "larger" size
rim/tire combinations people have successfully used on
their DeLoreans?

Dan G.
87 Turbo Regal


Message: 24
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 21:14:29 -0000
Subject: Re: FINALY this is my airbox!

The air box looks great! One question/ have a filter on 
the breather tube on the oil fill cap...the main reason why there 
was a hose going from there to the original airbox was for it to 
burn off any excess "fumes" for pollution control. Does it hamper 
the emissions since you don't have that hose going from the oil 
filler cap to the air box anymore?



Message: 25
Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 23:52:58 +0200
From: Jan van de Wouw <>
Subject: Heated Mirrors

Hello all,

with all of this talk about dooropeners and using the wires for the intended
heated mirrors I was wondering if they actually are fully connected up; if
they do get power when you turn on the ignition...

I want to knwo this, since I'm thinking of actually making my mirrors
heated, using a kit from a local mailorder.
The wires are there, I saw them when I was inside the doors a couple of
moths ago, but never thought of actually measuring them out...

If anyone can confirm if they are fully wired I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance,

JAN van de Wouw
Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

#05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000



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