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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 799
Date: Saturday, November 24, 2001 11:41 PM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. rear view mirror (was Two-tone interiors.)
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

2. Did you drive your D on Thanksgiving?
From: "Dan RC30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>

3. Minor(?) electrical problem...
From: "Adam Price" <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>

4. Oxygen sensor / Lamder probe
From: "Paul Salsbury" <paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com>

5. Reminder - Christmas Party
From: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com

6. ADMIN NOTE: Christmas Party
From: "David Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

7. RE: Oxygen sensor / Lamder probe
From: "Willie Mack" <wmack_at_dml_vt.edu>

8. Re: Minor(?) electrical problem... additional info..
From: "Adam Price" <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>

9. VERY IMPORTANT!!! TA Bolt bracket bolts
From: mark_at_dml_wizwarecomputers.com

10. Hood wanted!
From: "Stian Birkeland" <delorean_at_dml_online.no>

11. Re: Did you drive your D on Thanksgiving?
From: "Joseph Molino" <foxmul_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>

12. Re: Minor(?) electrical problem...
From: "Joseph Molino" <foxmul_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>

13. Re: Oxygen sensor / Lamder probe
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com

14. First Pass EFI Dyno Results
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com

15. Re: Minor(?) electrical problem...
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com

16. Re: Oxygen sensor / Lamder probe
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

17. Re: Minor(?) electrical problem...
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

18. Front fascia FOR SALE
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com

19. RE: Reminder - Christmas Party
From: "Arnie Brandon" <Arnie_at_dml_PNDC.org>

20. Sunstar Cars.....I did not get mine yet from USADMC
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>

21. Charlie's Angels
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>

22. Don't forget there are polls still open
From: "K Creason" <dmc4687_at_dml_mindspring.com>

23. A new poll! -TABs
From: "K Creason" <dmc4687_at_dml_mindspring.com>

24. Re: Minor(?) electrical problem...
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net

25. Re: Oxygen sensor / Lamder probe
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net





Message: 1
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 03:01:48 -0500
From: "Walter" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: rear view mirror (was Two-tone interiors.)

> I recently did my headliners in black as well.  I liked it.  What do you
> mean by "prism of the rearview mirror"?

It's that little switch on the bottom center of the mirror that flips it
from day/night mode.  The mirror glass is prism-shaped so that it will
reflect from two views.  When aimed properly, you get a 'bright' view and a
'dim' view depending on how you switch the lever.  The problem with the
'dim' view is that it superimposes a 'bright' view of the headliner.  So the
darker the headliner, the better it works for night driving.  I have had
other cars with light tan headliners and hated them for this reason.  A
convertible with the top down is worse yet.

I'm going to install one of those electrochromatic mirrors as advertised in
either Summit Racing or JCWhitney.  The one in JCWhitney is just like the
stock one in my GM SUV.  I don't like it too much because the
compass/thermometer obstructs the field of view.  The Summit Racing version
has the display below the mirror, and it has an optional dome light as well.
I think this will make an interesting compliment or replacement for the OEM
dome light in the headliner.  I'm thinking about re-shaping my headliner to
get rid of that bulge where the dome light fits.  It obstructs the mirror.
Either the bump needs to go away or the mirror needs to be mounted lower.  I
see this as one of the refinements that would have been made to the car in
subsequent years if they stayed in business.
www.jcwhitney.com part # 81KS8437Y $248.95
summitracing.com part # CIP-36500 $229.95

Walt    Tampa, FL




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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 03:53:34 -0500
From: "Dan RC30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Did you drive your D on Thanksgiving?

I was on my way to Thanksgiving dinner. While traveling in my D on Rt. 287 north in NJ, I spotted another D on the other side going south! Don't ask me how I saw it since there was a HUGE median... but I did spot it and I flashed my lights. Whoever it was didn't see me. I was just wondering if that person was on this list.

---Dan


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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 05:38:03 -0800
From: "Adam Price" <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Minor(?) electrical problem...


Hello I recently bought a delorean and have discovered an annoying problem. 
I noticed my courtesies lights were off one day so checked the fuse and it 
was blown. I tried replacing the fuse but it would only last for a few days 
and then pop again. Foolishly I put another fuse in two days ago and drove 
it to work. After work I noticed that the courtesies lights were again off 
so I checked the fuse. the fuse was intact this time so I was confused until 
I tried to start the car. My battery was drained!!!!!

So I have concluded that I have a short to ground somewhere in the wiring 
for the courtesies. THe battery had enough power to pop the fuse, but as I 
kept replacing the fuse, the battery drained a bit more every time and the 
final time it didnt have enough power to pop the fuse so it just sat there 
and drained.

So my questions are thus: Does my conclusion sound accurate? Has this ever 
happened to anyone else? Where do you think the short may be?

Thanks, Adam 16683 two-tone interior

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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 14:08:14 -0000
From: "Paul Salsbury" <paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com>
Subject: Oxygen sensor / Lamder probe

Help!!!

I am at my wits end.........

Can someone please give me a hint or tip on how to get my old oxygen sensor out. I know it should unscrew, however it just won't budge  one mm, Is there an easy way to do this, I've used penitrating oils and WD 40 to try and free it to no avail.

Paul

#6463


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Message: 5
Date: 25 Nov 2001 00:02:11 -0000
From: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Reminder - Christmas Party


We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Christmas Party 

Date: Sunday, December 2, 2001 
Time: 10:00AM - 5:00PM EST (GMT+10:00) 

Sydney Torana Club Christmas Party.  Prospect Reservoir. Club
members and their guests. 

 




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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 01:50:10 -0000
From: "David Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: ADMIN NOTE: Christmas Party

Never Mind.  Apparently someone put something on the wrong YahooGroup 
calendar, namely ours. It's been removed. Sorry about the confusion 
(if any).

Dave Swingle




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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 10:53:09 -0500
From: "Willie Mack" <wmack_at_dml_vt.edu>
Subject: RE: Oxygen sensor / Lamder probe


Hey Paul
I had the same problem this summer when i replaced my oxygen sensor.  I
finally got it out by putting lots of liquid wrench on it, and then putting
an open end wrench around the sensor, then i just kept combinning more open
end wrenchs together to get more leverage.  I probably had 3 or 4 feet of
open end wrenchs together, but it finally gave.

Hope that helps
  Willie
  Vin 5043

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Salsbury [mailto:paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 9:08 AM
To: doc-uk_at_dml_yahoogroups.com; dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Oxygen sensor / Lamder probe


Help!!!

I am at my wits end.........

Can someone please give me a hint or tip on how to get my old oxygen sensor
out. I know it should unscrew, however it just won't budge  one mm, Is there
an easy way to do this, I've used penitrating oils and WD 40 to try and free
it to no avail.

Paul

#6463


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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 08:57:22 -0800
From: "Adam Price" <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Minor(?) electrical problem... additional info..


I just pulled all my fuses and tested the current across them. Sure enough 
my Courtesies circuit is pulling 1.35 Amps even while the engine is off.

Disturbingly, my cigar lighter/radio fuse has a small amount (13.3 mA) 
across it as well even with the lighter pulled out.

Fece.

>From: "Adam Price" <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
>To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [DML] Minor(?) electrical problem...
>Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 05:38:03 -0800
>
>
>Hello I recently bought a delorean and have discovered an annoying problem.
>I noticed my courtesies lights were off one day so checked the fuse and it
>was blown. I tried replacing the fuse but it would only last for a few days
>and then pop again. Foolishly I put another fuse in two days ago and drove
>it to work. After work I noticed that the courtesies lights were again off
>so I checked the fuse. the fuse was intact this time so I was confused 
>until
>I tried to start the car. My battery was drained!!!!!
>
>So I have concluded that I have a short to ground somewhere in the wiring
>for the courtesies. THe battery had enough power to pop the fuse, but as I
>kept replacing the fuse, the battery drained a bit more every time and the
>final time it didnt have enough power to pop the fuse so it just sat there
>and drained.
>
>So my questions are thus: Does my conclusion sound accurate? Has this ever
>happened to anyone else? Where do you think the short may be?
>
>Thanks, Adam 16683 two-tone interior
>
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:05:34 -0000
From: mark_at_dml_wizwarecomputers.com
Subject: VERY IMPORTANT!!! TA Bolt bracket bolts

A friend had loose rear-end, so I STRONGLY recommend we check his TA 
Bolts last night. Well, not only was the right rear bolt bent, but 
one of the bolts was COMPLETELY MISSING from the TA Bolt bracket. The 
bracket had been sliding up and down, just waiting for the other bolt 
to break off. That's right...only one little bolt was holding the 
entire thing on there (it was the bolt closest to the rear of the car 
that remained).

So...When you are checking your trailing arm bolts, CHECK THE BRACKET 
BOLTS TOO!!! In fact, check ALL the important suspension bolts.




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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 18:21:12 +0100
From: "Stian Birkeland" <delorean_at_dml_online.no>
Subject: Hood wanted!



Hi,
I'm still looking for a "new" used 1981hood for my DeLorean. I'd like to buy either the hood w/fuel filler flap, or the hood with two lines on each side. I can swap hoods with you (money in-between since my hood has a slight dent in it) or buy you a new, flat hood. Please e-mail me privately on: delorean_at_dml_online.no

Best wishes
Mr. Stian Birkeland
Norway

VIN # 06759



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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:28:32 -0500
From: "Joseph Molino" <foxmul_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>
Subject: Re: Did you drive your D on Thanksgiving?

It might have been me.  What time was it?  I didn't see you at all.  Sorry
for that.  I needed to exercise the D.

Joseph Molino
vin 2850  "restored Maryland thrashed D"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan RC30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>
To: "DML" <DMCNews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 3:53 AM
Subject: [DML] Did you drive your D on Thanksgiving?


> I was on my way to Thanksgiving dinner. While traveling in my D on Rt. 287
north in NJ, I spotted another D on the other side going south! Don't ask me
how I saw it since there was a HUGE median... but I did spot it and I
flashed my lights. Whoever it was didn't see me. I was just wondering if
that person was on this list.
>
> ---Dan
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:30:50 -0500
From: "Joseph Molino" <foxmul_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>
Subject: Re: Minor(?) electrical problem...

I don't no where the short may be but whenever I have an electrical problem,
I take it to an Automotive electric place.  I never knew such a place
existed but they found the problem in 5 minutes and this is all they do.
Try to find one near you.

Joseph
vin 2850
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From: "Adam Price" <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 8:38 AM
Subject: [DML] Minor(?) electrical problem...


>
> Hello I recently bought a delorean and have discovered an annoying
problem.
> I noticed my courtesies lights were off one day so checked the fuse and it
> was blown. I tried replacing the fuse but it would only last for a few
days
> and then pop again. Foolishly I put another fuse in two days ago and drove
> it to work. After work I noticed that the courtesies lights were again off
> so I checked the fuse. the fuse was intact this time so I was confused
until
> I tried to start the car. My battery was drained!!!!!
>
> So I have concluded that I have a short to ground somewhere in the wiring
> for the courtesies. THe battery had enough power to pop the fuse, but as I
> kept replacing the fuse, the battery drained a bit more every time and the
> final time it didnt have enough power to pop the fuse so it just sat there
> and drained.
>
> So my questions are thus: Does my conclusion sound accurate? Has this ever
> happened to anyone else? Where do you think the short may be?
>
> Thanks, Adam 16683 two-tone interior
>
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 12:58:03 EST
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Oxygen sensor / Lamder probe

In a message dated 11/24/01 10:32:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com writes:

<< Is there an easy way to do this, I've used penitrating oils and WD 40 to 
try and free it to no avail.
  >>
Paul,

    I used a torch on it and it worked for me.  Torch it until it is red hot 
then try to turn it.  See if that works, just be careful of the fuel lines 
near the exhaust manifold area.  Obvious disclaimers apply when using a torch.

Later,
Nick Pitello
1852
<A HREF="Http://members.aol.com/njp548">Http://members.aol.com/njp548</A>



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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 20:20:19 -0000
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: First Pass EFI Dyno Results

I just had 06147 on a chassis dyno to see what type of performance I 
was getting with electronic multi port fuel injection. Thought you 
might be interested in the results. The car was equpped with all the 
stock ignition, fuel delivery system, cams, exhaust, catalytics, air 
filter etc... In the process I found that my injector sizing was too 
small. The injectors topped out at a 100% duty cycle (they were 
running wide open) at approximately 4900 RPM which is where horse 
power started to drop off. At 4900 it was making 108.4 rear wheel HP 
and simply wouldn't run over 5400. Max torque was 148.5 at 2800 RPM. 
With larger injectors (or if I cheat with increased fuel pressure), 
I'm sure max HP would continue to climb. If it were to climb in a 
linear fashion (as it does between 3400 and 4900), for another 1500 
RPM that would add another 15 to 18 HP putting you in the 125 rear 
wheel HP area. But in reality, the HP curve will probably gradually 
flatten out  as it approaches redline. Either way I suspect there is 
probably another 10 HP to be had with larger injectors. 

A CIS car at 100 rear wheel HP is  9.2% (100/108) behind  EFI in rear 
wheel HP, even with my undersized injectors. I assume you could 
extrapolate EFI crank HP at about 141 vs 130 for CIS, but the EFI 
numbers will be higher once I properly size the injectors and can run 
to redline. These values are with the stock air filter assy and a 
Fram filter element. Just for grins I made one last pass with the 
same ECU program values but without the air filter assy. Rear wheel 
HP rose to 109.5 at 4800 for about a 1.1 HP gain, and max torque was 
148 at 2900 RPM.  I'll be installing bigger injectors and heading 
back to the dyno soon. I'll let you know what I end up with. 

Once I get this fully sorted out, would anyone be interested in a kit 
if there were no irreversible modifications required for 
installation, and it cost around  $1800 as a complete fully 
programmed and documented bolt on.

I've never had as much fun with a car as I've had with this one. 
Jim :-)





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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 20:26:10 -0000
From: DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com
Subject: Re: Minor(?) electrical problem...

On my car, one of the door switches for the courtesy lights had dirty 
contacts. Even with the door closed all day, the switch would become 
VERY hot. While this didn't drain my battery, I imagine that 2 
switches doing this at the same time might just be able to blow a 
fuse. To clean I just removed the switch, and sanded the contacts 
with some really fine sandpaper.

While this may not nessisarily be the exact cause of your problem, it 
is something that you should look into.

-Robert
vin 6585



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Adam Price" <acprice1_at_dml_h...> wrote:
> 
> Hello I recently bought a delorean and have discovered an annoying 
problem. 
> I noticed my courtesies lights were off one day so checked the fuse 
and it 
> was blown. I tried replacing the fuse but it would only last for a 
few days 
> and then pop again...
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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:33:27 EST
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Oxygen sensor / Lamder probe

Paul, Heat. Get a small propane torch and heat it up. Be carefull of the 
surroundings. After you get it pretty hot, tap on the pipe next to it as you 
put pressure on the 02 sensor nut. Make sure the wrench fits good. You don't 
want to strip the built on nut.
John hervey
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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:36:26 EST
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Minor(?) electrical problem...

Adam, Check the door switches for the lights, You make be closing the door, 
but the switches may not be working properly to shut the lights off.
John hervey
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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 20:33:23 EST
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Front fascia FOR SALE

Hi List,
     I have placed my old front fascia on ebay.(21 Hrs left)  It needs to be 
painted and has a small crack/chip in one spot.  It has slight eyebrows.  
They can be easily fixed with a space heater and some epoxy( I did it to my 
new one last night) works great!.  anyway,  I thought someone on the list 
might be able to use this.

http://cgi.ebay.aol.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&
item=598155632&r=0&t=0

David




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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:34:23 -0800
From: "Arnie Brandon" <Arnie_at_dml_PNDC.org>
Subject: RE: Reminder - Christmas Party

*****  Moderator's Note  *****
False alarm.  Another quirk of Yahoo...


What? Who? Why? Where?

-----Original Message-----
From: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com [mailto:dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 4:02 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Reminder - Christmas Party



We would like to remind you of this upcoming event.

Christmas Party

Date: Sunday, December 2, 2001
Time: 10:00AM - 5:00PM EST (GMT+10:00)

Sydney Torana Club Christmas Party.  Prospect Reservoir. Club
members and their guests.





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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:22:56 -0500
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>
Subject: Sunstar Cars.....I did not get mine yet from USADMC

I have not gotten my car yet from Delorean in Houston.....Is there a
backlog?  Did anyone else not get theirs?  I ordered in August.




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Message: 21
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:39:38 -0500
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>
Subject: Charlie's Angels

*****  Moderator's Note  *****
This will not start a Charlie's Angel's discussion...


Just watched the Charlie's Angels DVD (ya, I am a little behind on my
movie watching) and noticed a DeLorean reference that I had not seen
mentioned here.  I know some of you track DeLorean stuff in the media..

There is a scene where the girls (H-O-T!) and Bosley are going to a
party undercover.  Bosley says "Call me JD", and they girl go on to say
a few "JD" names.  The very last one is "John DeLorean".  I put on the
closed caption to verify because it was said so low.



In other links, the actor who plays "The Thin Man" (Bad Guy) in
Charlie's Angeles is Crispin Glover.  Some of you may know him as George
McFly from the Back to the Future movie.






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Message: 22
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 20:54:58 -0600
From: "K Creason" <dmc4687_at_dml_mindspring.com>
Subject: Don't forget there are polls still open

go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/polls

to vote in the DML polls. There are currently 3 open-- polling the topics of
age-range and insurance company.

Please, go and vote, for everyone's curiosity!

-Kevin
#4687
Houston

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Message: 23
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:20:48 -0600
From: "K Creason" <dmc4687_at_dml_mindspring.com>
Subject: A new poll! -TABs

OK-- I just read Toby's idea about polling on TAB breakages. It was posted
last week while I was out (getting caught up on DMaiL is awful).
I can't believe no one created that poll!? It is incredibly easy to create,
so I did.

This poll is relatively easy to vote, but is different from the others
because you can make multiple selections, since it is possible that people
have had multiple breakages/problems.
I copied the basic scenarios (no probs, bending, breaking) into to groups:
low miles and high miles.
Let us consider low miles to be under 40,000 miles (or Km equivilent). If
you had a low mileage bending and a high mileage breakage then you can vote
those two. If you've had two high mileage bendings, well, you are just out
of luck because you can't vote for in each category but once.

So please, go vote at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/polls
There other polls there, too. There is one on Insurance for your DMC12, and
another for your age bracket. Please vote-- we are very curious to see the
statistics, but relax, your email/account name is hidden from the poll
creator and the moderators, and the world.
Thanks!

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"most experts agree that the end of the world will come by accident, most
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Message: 24
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 04:24:40 -0000
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net
Subject: Re: Minor(?) electrical problem...

Look for the simple things first. Make sure you are using the correct 
size fuse. Check the wiring at the door switches, if the buzzer wires 
are mixed with the courtesy light wires on the 2 left door switches 
strange things can happen. Look at the front and rear courtesy lights 
in the passenger compartment. If melted or bent it could be blowing 
the fuse and draining the battery. The door switches are supposed to 
have little rubber boots on the plungers. If missing the lights could 
remain on (you wouldn't even know it especially if you keep the 
interior lights off as the door lights would stay on). It is possible 
but rare for one of the many diodes in the courtesy circuit to fail 
causing fuses to blow and lights to stay on.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757 



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Adam Price" <acprice1_at_dml_h...> wrote:
> 
> Hello I recently bought a delorean and have discovered an annoying 
problem. 
> I noticed my courtesies lights were off one day so checked the fuse 
and it 
> was blown. I tried replacing the fuse but it would only last for a 
few days 
> and then pop again. Foolishly I put another fuse in two days ago and 
drove 
> it to work. After work I noticed that the courtesies lights were 
again off 
> so I checked the fuse. the fuse was intact this time so I was 
confused until 
> I tried to start the car. My battery was drained!!!!!
> 
> So I have concluded that I have a short to ground somewhere in the 
wiring 
> for the courtesies. THe battery had enough power to pop the fuse, 
but as I 
> kept replacing the fuse, the battery drained a bit more every time 
and the 
> final time it didnt have enough power to pop the fuse so it just sat 
there 
> and drained.
> 
> So my questions are thus: Does my conclusion sound accurate? Has 
this ever 
> happened to anyone else? Where do you think the short may be?
> 
> Thanks, Adam 16683 two-tone interior
> 
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Message: 25
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 04:33:06 -0000
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net
Subject: Re: Oxygen sensor / Lamder probe

The best way to remove it is to heat the fitting it screws into with 
an acetalyne torch. If you don't have one find a muffler shop to do it 
for you. It will save you alot of aggravation, time, knuckles, 
band-aids, and cursing. If you try to "muscle" it out you may wind up 
taking the threads out with it. If you bring the new one with you they 
could also install it and they shouldn't charge very much. Have them 
use some anti-seize compound on the threads so it will come out easier 
next time. Don't forget to reset your lambda counter and check your 
valve adjustment. While you are there remove the test plugs and 
reinstall with anti-seize too. Whenever you work on the exhaust system 
heat is the only way to go!
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Paul Salsbury" <paul.salsbury_at_dml_b...> wrote:
> Help!!!
> 
> I am at my wits end.........
> 
> Can someone please give me a hint or tip on how to get my old oxygen 
sensor out. I know it should unscrew, however it just won't budge  one 
mm, Is there an easy way to do this, I've used penitrating oils and WD 
40 to try and free it to no avail.
> 
> Paul
> 
> #6463
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




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