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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 806
Date: Friday, November 30, 2001 8:59 AM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. RE: Delorean Molds
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>

2. Re: DeLorean One and DMC Houston???
From: fjk143_at_dml_aol.com

3. Re: DeLorean One and DMC Houston???
From: gmfm1_at_dml_att.net

4. RE: DeLorean One and DMC Houston???
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>

5. RE: twin turbo
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>

6. Re: DeLorean One and DMC Houston???
From: mroboto_at_dml_aol.com

7. RE: PRV?
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>

8. Re: DeLorean One and DMC Houston???
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net

9. Re: twin turbo
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net

10. Sun Star Arrived from DMC Houston
From: "Jack Stiefel" <jack_at_dml_sacketmansion.com>

11. Re: Minor electrical problem revised...
From: "Adam Price" <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>

12. Sunstar BTTF Model (photos)
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>

13. Re: How's #1458 going?
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

14. Re: DeLorean vs. Alpine A310 Question.
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

15. Sad DeLorean in need of good Mechanic(L.I. NY)
From: dmc_delorean_2000_at_dml_yahoo.com

16. Robotics
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net>

17. ! 2001 model of the PRV V6 !
From: "Stian Birkeland" <delorean_at_dml_online.no>

18. Re: DeLorean One and DMC Houston???
From: theshovel1224_at_dml_yahoo.com

19. Exhaust Manifolds
From: dmc_delorean_2000_at_dml_yahoo.com

20. Re: Re: twin turbo
From: William T Wilson <fluffy_at_dml_snurgle.org>

21. Re: Sad DeLorean in need of good Mechanic(L.I. NY)
From: srubano_at_dml_optonline.com

22. DMC-12 in 2002 Calendar
From: "Steven Lawrence" <vipertv_at_dml_cableone.net>

23. Re: Re: twin turbo
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>

24. Re: Re: A DeLorean taxi?
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com

25. RE: Sad DeLorean in need of good Mechanic(L.I. NY)
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>





Message: 1
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 08:43:56 -0500
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>
Subject: RE: Delorean Molds

They look like Fiberglass molds.  maybe they were used to make full size
models for the BTTF movies?  I can't imagine someone would buy something
like that and not know the story behind it.  I doubt the previous owner
(the guy who sold it to the person now selling them on ebay) would not
have a explanation for the item.  It is possible that if we knew the
real story behind them, they would be much less valuable.  :)


-----Original Message-----
From: edherrmann_at_dml_yahoo.com [mailto:edherrmann_at_dml_yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 9:57 AM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Delorean Molds


What molds are being sold on e-bay right now. Where did they come
from. Maybe there are some more laying around.  Ed 




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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 08:49:28 EST
From: fjk143_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: DeLorean One and DMC Houston???

[Moderator Note: This Thread has already generated a flood of responses.  As long as the content remains relatively civil you will get to read them.  For those wishing to express their personal opinions, you improve your opportunities of having your message apporved if you differentiate opinions from facts.  - Mike Substelny, this week's moderator]

Adam,

DMC Houston just restored my car and made uprades to the engine, suspension, etc.  It now makes 197 hp and nearly linear torque as well.  I felt the proce was expensive but fair and the quality was high.  Steve Wynne, the owner, is a delight to deal with unlike DeLorean One's owner, Ed Bernstein - just my opinion but based on facts that matter to me - sounds like your P.J. Grady scenario.  I am from Connecticut and sent my car to Houston istead of Long Island which is ten miles away.

Fred  6894



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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:13:08 -0000
From: gmfm1_at_dml_att.net
Subject: Re: DeLorean One and DMC Houston???

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Adam Price" <acprice1_at_dml_h...> wrote:
> 
> I am new to the Delorean. So DeLorean One and DMC Houston are 
> separate  companies? But DMC Houston at one time was a Delorean
> One facility? So what happened?
> 
[moderator snip] 
> Adam 16683


Dear Adam,
     I was at one of DOA's National Conventions, I think it was Las 
Vegas, in Sept. 1995. Steve's answer to the question of the 
separarion was somthing like, there comes a time when you want to 
move in different directions. I assumed from that, that he and Ed 
were having differences of opinions. I left it at that.
     As to where to have a car refurbished, depends a lot on location 
and your bank roll.
Happy motoring,
Gary Masie



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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:13:19 -0500
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>
Subject: RE: DeLorean One and DMC Houston???

You are correct.  DeLorean One and DMC Houston are not the same company.

I have been slammed enough in recent weeks for talking about things I
have heard, so I will not comment on D1 vs DMC(H) cars because I have
not compared them myself.

You may want to also check PJ Grady in New York.  I am familiar with
their quality of work, and highly recommend them.


[duplicate quote snipped by moderator]



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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:22:41 -0500
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>
Subject: RE: twin turbo

Eleanor Rogers sells the "Island Twin Turbo" kit.  You can call her and
ask who else can install the kit for you.

If I were going to spend that kind of money on a kit, I'd make sure the
person installing it has done it before and they know what they are
doing.  In this case, Grady is your man.  I have seen Eleanor's personal
DeLorean at Rob's shop on occasion, and he has done all the work on my
island TT Car.

... Is there some way to make Yahoo groups require that REAL NAMES be
signed on messages?  


-----Original Message-----
From: dmc_delorean_2000_at_dml_yahoo.com [mailto:dmc_delorean_2000_at_dml_yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 9:58 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] twin turbo


does anyone have any info on how i can obtain a twin turbo for the 
DeLorean? i live in NY but dont get along with PJ grady (he carged me 
for somthing i didnt want done) so i cant go to him, but if anyone 
has any idea on what i can do let me know
Thanks
And HAPPY HOLIDAYS






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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:32:21 EST
From: mroboto_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: DeLorean One and DMC Houston???

[Moderator Note: This message is one subscriber's opinion.  I urge all subscriber's to use the word opinion when appropriate.]

DMC Houston has been very helpful to me, D-ONE has never been wiling to 
answer questions or help. Therefore, I have spent thousands with Houston and 
will continue to do so. Customer service is really important insuch a limited 
market.
The big difference between a $30,000 rehab and a $60,000 ONE is $30,000!

Daniel



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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:34:49 -0500
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>
Subject: RE: PRV?

Hard to tell from the photos, but there was a version of the PRV that
had DOHC heads... that would explain why the sparkplugs are not in the
same location as the SOHC engine that we all know.

However, the DOHC setup was not used (in a production car) until 1991,
and it was a Peugeot not a Renault.

I will ask a few people I know about it.


> Can someone take a look _at_dml_ these photos and tell me if
> this is a PRV motor?  [moderator snip]

http://members.atlasf1.com/pascal/1985f1-2.html

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"





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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:44:10 -0000
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net
Subject: Re: DeLorean One and DMC Houston???

You are correct that at one time DMC Houston and Delorean One in Ca. 
were affiliated. That now is no longer the case, they are separate 
entities. DMC Houston is the largest Dealer in Delorean parts and 
services having aquired the inventory from Consolidated Industries 
which was what was left after DMC went bankrupt. I leave it up to 
James Espey to further clarify this for you and why they can sell a 
rebuilt Delorean for $30,00 when D1 want $60,000. Your choice for the 
center to refurbish a car is affected by many things including 
reputation, recomendations, price, location, and selection among other 
things. I don't have first-hand knowledge of either center's rebuilt 
cars but everybody has their own definition of what "refurbished" 
means from a cleaning and detailing to a complete overhaul or 
replacement of all wearable parts and mechanicals. Compare warranties. 
This can give you an indication of how much they trust their work and 
how they will honour the warranty especially if you are not close by. 
You could also comparison shop. There are 2 other shops that can get 
you a car. One is in California and the other is in Long Island, NY. 
If I were you and had $30,000 to spend I would go to E-Bay and buy 
#502 for $20,000 and have it gone over. That is a car that will 
appreciate in value AND be a blast to drive!
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757  



-- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Adam Price" <acprice1_at_dml_h...> wrote:
> 
> I am new to the Delorean. So DeLorean One and DMC Houston are 
separate 
> companies? But DMC Houston at one time was a Delorean One facility? 
So what 
> happened?
> 
> D1 wants 60,000 for a refurbished car, while DMC Houston wants 
30,000... 
> Also if you were going to buy a refurbished car, or have on 
refurbished who 
> would you rather bring it to??
> 
> Adam 16683
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _________________________________________________________________
> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at 
http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp




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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:49:46 -0000
From: jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net
Subject: Re: twin turbo

The only kit available is from Island Turbo but it isn't the twin. Or 
you could buy #502 on E-Bay. The only parts I know of that are in 
existance to recreate a twin set-up are in Rob's shop for the car he 
has and I don't think you could get him to sell then even if you were 
his brother! If you were on better terms with him and could examine 
the parts I believe the parts could be copied and or recreated. 
Someone else is also interesed in doing this but I don't know how far 
along the project is.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:23:07 -0500
From: "Jack Stiefel" <jack_at_dml_sacketmansion.com>
Subject: Sun Star Arrived from DMC Houston

I don't want to keep the thread going regarding quality control of the
Sun Star Model, but I broke down the other night and ordered 2 from
Houston thru the web site.  I was surprised this morning to see the UPS
truck bringing them so fast.  Even with using next day shipping, most
places never do it on time.  Kudos Guys!

Now as far as the model goes, it is even better then I had imagined.
And it was nice of them to reproduce mine so accurately (the hood lines,
grey interior, 5 speed, and so on).  Kidding of course, but I can
imagine being mildly disapointed if my real D was different then the
model version.  Please don't get upset about that last comment, all D's
are great in their own way, just the one they used happens to be one of
the more common verisons as it mine.

It is obvious that they didn't use a Concourse car for measuring, but no
ones perfect.

The one I opened works perfectly, doors hold up and such etc. etc. etc.

I have also ordered 2 of the BTTF versions from www.bttf.com and look
forward to it's arrival.

Jack & Virginia Stiefel
1981 DeLorean Vin 3461 August 1981 Build (Ours)
1988 Jaguar XJS-C V-12 (Mine)
2001 PT Cruiser (Hers)
Visit us at www.sacketmansion.com





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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 11:00:48 -0800
From: "Adam Price" <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Minor electrical problem revised...

Thanks for the help!! I did check my door switches, and they were a mess! 
They were loose and one of the upper connectors was contacting the lower 
one, creating the short. I straightened everything, tightened everything and 
insulated some additional areas of the connectors, now my "open door" 
telltale goes off and on as it should and the sporadic current through the 
courtesies circuit is no more!

How ever this still doesnt explain why the courtesies fuse kept popping. The 
engine compartemnt light doesnt work. I think the whole circuit for that has 
an open. I cant measure any voltage or current through it anywhere. The 
switch is broken so I completely removed it, opening the circuit just in 
case it was responsible for the current drain.

Also I think my alternator belt is loose cause my car squeeks often and I 
thought that I needed bearings packed or something, but I think that it is 
actually the alternator belt. I replaced the belts and just couldnt get the 
alternator very tight.

Also my windows work even with the car off. Is this normal? I am getting 13 
mA through this fuse at all times, but it could be for something else that 
is tied to that fuse.

Adam who doesn't know crap about electronics or cars.

>From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
>Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
>To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [DML] Minor electrical problem revised...
>Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 01:03:25 -0500
>
>Your short circuit problem is located in your engine compartment light
>fixture.

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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:27:28 -0600
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: Sunstar BTTF Model (photos)

We got our BTTF models in yesterday, and here are some photos for those that
are interested. Pretty cool little model, lots of detail!

http://www.delorean.com/new_products.asp

or

http://www.delorean.com/gift_ideas.asp



James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
Houston, Texas 

281/568-9573
800/USA-DMC1
http://www.delorean.com 




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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 20:39:00 +0000
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: Re: How's #1458 going?

Thanks Joe, I tested the current being drawn by the high-beams and it was 16A. I cleaned
up the connectors and obviously the new fuse made a big difference (clean spades)

If it happenns again, I'll be taking your advice

Best Wishes

Martin
#1458
www.delorean.co.uk

DMC Joe wrote:

> This is a common problem and requires that a heavy duty in-line fuse holder
> be installed to substitute for the fuse block fuse holder. If not replaced
> the same fuse will continue to melt. If the problem is not corrected the
> damaged fuse contacts will cause adjoining fuse contacts to overheat and
> melt. To reduce heat build up in the fuse block do not install the black
> fuse block cover.




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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 20:41:08 +0000
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: Re: DeLorean vs. Alpine A310 Question.

I've been enlisted to take my D to a place in London that do these headers to see if
they'll fit. I'm just waiting on my official registration documents before I can drive it
on the roads with a completely clear conscience! (driving it late at night and on quiet
country roads is one thing, but I'm pushing my luck driving it into London on the US
plate)

Martin
#1458

DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com wrote:

> Someone mentioned a while back on the list here that the
> exhaust headers on the Alpine A310 will not fit on the DeLorean
> because of a clearance issue with the crossmember that
> supports the engine (I'm assuming the headers described are
> the stock one's that point straight down).
>
> So, the question here is does anyone know what the exact
> clearances are. or perhaps at the very least does someone have
> a photo of this area on an Alpine? Just trying to figure out if the
> clearance was with the headers themselves, or just no space to
> connect them up to the exhaust system...
>
> -Robert
> vin 6585 "X"




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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 20:42:37 -0000
From: dmc_delorean_2000_at_dml_yahoo.com
Subject: Sad DeLorean in need of good Mechanic(L.I. NY)

hi
My cars been in the shop for over a year now, its actualy very sad. i 
send it to a mechanic to fix somthing small and they wind up breaking 
somthing major. right now its at an AAMCO where they have rebuilt the 
tranny over a year ago, but once the summer came around it started 
acting up so its back (this is the 6th time its back at AAMCO). they 
finaly fixed the tranny (they say but i think its just because of 
winter and it will act up again in the summer), but now they are 
telling me the car wont start. they suspect the fuel injectors. im 
getting really fed up with theese mechanics because they ruined my 
car. I bought it for $15k 2 years ago and i've already pumped in over 
another $12k in repairs that were the mechanics fault. it was a great 
car when i got it but now i dont know what to do. everyone i know 
tells me to sell it, but i LOVE deloreans ever since i was a kid. 
even PJ Grady disappointed me (car came back with damage and a $7k 
bill when i only wanted new pullys and maybe a water pump). 
so now i have a car that wont start, a key broken in the door lock so 
the locks dont work (thanks to PJ GRADY), a tranny that stays in 
first gear when it gets hot, and a car that mechanics know nothing 
about (its in syosset now where i used to live but im in montauk now 
so its hard to find out whats going on). my cars spent more time in 
the shop than anything. I got this car as a present from my father 
when i turned 16 im now 18, and i think mechanics see im young and 
they kill my car on purpose so i come back to them.
someone help, i dont want to destroy this car anymore, if anyone 
knows of reputable mecahnics in the suffolk county area (besides PJ 
GRADY) please let me know. my car needs help. im going to aamco today 
to yell at them and find out the story.

Thanks 

Happy Holidays




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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:51:06 +0000
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net>
Subject: Robotics

Most every procedure I read about on the list, that includes anything
electrical, starts with removal of the negative cable.  In conventional
cars that's fine, the idea is not to ground the positive terminal to the
surrounding metal...however, we're talking the DMC here, you'd be hard
pressed to find any metal around the battery compartment that you could
reach with a wrench.  Remove the the positive cable, it's closer and
it's much easier to deal with.






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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 22:35:38 +0100
From: "Stian Birkeland" <delorean_at_dml_online.no>
Subject: ! 2001 model of the PRV V6 !

Go to:

http://www.renault.com/gb/produits/clio_V6.htm

This car has the newest engine from the PRV family.

I had the opportunity to see this car at my local Volvo/Renault dealership. The engine is mounted in the rear, yet mid-mounted. The engine is quite different from the one in the DeLorean - now, the engine is quite "boxy". Very little work, if any, you can do on that engine. Its very compact. I guess they only allow you to change the oil ;-)

No, there is no "for a set of golfclubs" behind the seats, but the feeling when sitting inside it is very DeLorean like!

Without measuring Im 100% sure that this engine would fit the engine bay of the DeLorean, but I guess you would have to do quite a few mods. I'm pretty sure it would work though.

How about that - 230 HP and 24V!
The Clio car is fitted with a 6 speed gearbox, something that would be fun to have in the DeLorean :-)

The Clio car goes 0-100km/h in 6.4 seconds. The Clio's tires are of course - yes, you guessed it - 235!

I guess you can get even more info on this engine by contacting Renault directly.

Best wishes
Stian Birkeland
Norway

VIN # 06759


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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 22:05:11 -0000
From: theshovel1224_at_dml_yahoo.com
Subject: Re: DeLorean One and DMC Houston???

> If I were you and had $30,000 to spend I would go to E-Bay and buy 
> #502 for $20,000 and have it gone over. That is a car that will 
> appreciate in value AND be a blast to drive!
> David Teitelbaum
> vin 10757  

That might not work.  As of right now, (4:01 p.m. CST) the high bid
is $23,100.00 and the reserve hasn't been met yet.  The reserve price
might be $35,000 (or more) and then, you would obviously need more
than $30,000 dollars to buy #502.

John Yeoman





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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 22:47:20 -0000
From: dmc_delorean_2000_at_dml_yahoo.com
Subject: Exhaust Manifolds

hi Guys
its me again, i might be getting annyoing, but i have no where else 
to turn for advise, nobody where i live knows what a DeLorean is. my 
pass side exhaust manifold is cracked so i bought a used one in good 
shape (new is too expensive), but when PJ Grady had my car in 
january, he told me it was a big job (he wanted $800 to do it). now 
as some of you know i've had a lot of problems with mechanics so im 
taking some of your advice to do the work myself. my question is how 
shold i go about this? is it that big of a job that i should just let 
a mechanic do it, or do you think me being an amature can do it? if i 
do the work myself, what am i getting into? any info would be very 
usefull. plus i've got a whole bunch more question but i'll wait for 
my car to come back before i flood the message board.
Thanks all
Tony





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Message: 20
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 18:00:53 -0500 (EST)
From: William T Wilson <fluffy_at_dml_snurgle.org>
Subject: Re: Re: twin turbo

On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net wrote:

> The only kit available is from Island Turbo but it isn't the twin. Or
> you could buy #502 on E-Bay. The only parts I know of that are in
> existance to recreate a twin set-up are in Rob's shop for the car he

This isn't really correct, the Island kit is a twin turbo setup.  There
was at one time a single turbo kit from BAE but this is not being
manufactured any more.

However the Island kit is not the same as the #502 setup, it isn't even
very close.  The Island kit is a low-pressure setup which makes some
not-too-dramatic modifications to the fuel system to increase the flow.  
The #502 (Legend) setup is a higher pressure turbo with intercoolers and a
more thoroughly engineered fuel and ignition system (suitable for being
sold on new cars).

There is nothing wrong with the Island kit.  It will increase the HP of
the car by around 40%.  Compared to #502 or what could be done with modern
components, it is not the ultimate expression of turbo technology :} But
it is a good aftermarket kit.




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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 23:06:19 -0000
From: srubano_at_dml_optonline.com
Subject: Re: Sad DeLorean in need of good Mechanic(L.I. NY)

First off: Who are you??

Second: Why are you posting about Rob in every post you make? I've 
dealt with him on MANY occasions and he wouldn't charge you for 
something YOU did not ask for. He has so many cars in his shop for 
repairs/restoration he does not have the time to perform work on a 
car that a customer dosn't want. Also I don't think Robs place would 
have broke a key in your lock and not have repaired it..he wouldn't 
have given the car back to you and he sure wouldn't have charged you 
for it if it was their fault. You sure your not making this up?? You 
do know that Rob reads the posts on this list don't you? I have 
NEVER heard anything like this. Charged you $7K for work and charged 
you for a waterpump that "you might" have wanted? hmmmm...interesting

Third: WHY would you bring your D to AAMCO?? And why would pay for 
something that a mechanic broke? I would have demanded my money back 
after having to bring the car back to them after the third time!

You first say that "YOU" bought the car then you go on the say you 
recieved it as gift. So you got it when you were 16 huh? Must've 
sucked to just look at it sitting in your driveway for a year since 
in NY you can only drive when your 17 with a learners permit and 
with a licensed adult in the car.

If your going to make a bogus post get your facts straight.

Steve
(see it wasn't that hard to sign a post)

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., dmc_delorean_2000_at_dml_y... wrote:
> hi
> My cars been in the shop for over a year now, its actualy very 
> sad.

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Message: 22
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 18:04:48 -0800
From: "Steven Lawrence" <vipertv_at_dml_cableone.net>
Subject: DMC-12 in 2002 Calendar

Hello all,

     There is a DMC-12 in the NAPA Auto Parts 2002 Calendar.  The nice
looking 1982 DeLorean picture is on the month of August.  There are
specifications of the car, and a little write-up of the car's history
(mainly JZD), which is fairly nice.  I'm not sure if NAPA is selling these
calendars or not, but I do know that my work received one.  Check out your
local NAPA Auto Parts store for availability.  See ya down the road...

Steven Lawrence
vipertv_at_dml_cableone.net
Biloxi, Mississippi
Still waiting to Live The Dream!




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Message: 23
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 16:21:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: twin turbo

The Island Turbo IS a twin.  In fact that is the only
kit they have ever sold.  I have had two - one on an
81 automatic and one on my current (83) 5 speed.

Dick Ryan

--- jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net wrote:
> The only kit available is from Island Turbo but it
> isn't the twin.  --- snip ----

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Message: 24
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 20:46:30 EST
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: A DeLorean taxi?

In a message dated 11/29/01 8:40:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, Whalt_at_dml_att.net 
writes:

<< The pizza sign would fit neatly in the center of the
 T-panel. >>
uhh walt...kinda forgot one tiny little detail about that.  Since those signs 
are attached to the body of the car with magnets, they will NOT stick to the 
stainless steel.  

Later,
Nick Pitello
1852
Http://members.aol.com/njp548">Http://members.aol.com/njp548



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Message: 25
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 20:57:07 -0500
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>
Subject: RE: Sad DeLorean in need of good Mechanic(L.I. NY)

As it is often stated here, Deloreans are not cheep cars to maintain.

Looking at the car in depth before you buy it, and researching (i spent over
a year and a half researching and looking before I was ready to buy) is the
best thing you can do.  I spent $14k on my car, and got a GREAT deal (thanks
Doug!), but I still wound up putting $3-4K into it.  I could only imagine
what it would have cost me if I DIDN'T research first!  Now my car is in
AWESOME shape, and is very reliable.

I know most of that is not of any use to you now....

I too took my car to PJ Grady when I first got it, and wound up with a
bigger bill then I thought I would, but all the repairs that they did were
necessary, and would have to of been done sooner or later...if the car is
apart, make the repairs while it is exposed.
I found that once I reached my cut off $$$ amount, that PJ Grady was
understanding, and kept the repairs to a minimum, and ONLY fixed what I
approved, and was urgent/necessary.

I am shocked to hear that PJ Grady broke the key in the lock and did not
make good for it, but not knowing both sides of the story, I will not dive
into it (remain nuetral!).  All I can say, is that they were very good to
me, and I have nothing bad to say, and did not have any issues.

Now....as for the other mechanics......

If you feel that they damaged your car THAT badly, you should seek legal
advice against them to see if you can hold them liable!  I hope you kept all
your paperwork and can claim what was done incorrectly...if not, don't
bother.

As for recemondations:

I always call PJ Grady for parts, and info!  I took my car there for most of
the major work, and plan on taking it for a yearly checkup.  Living in NJ,
it is a little awkward to go there all the time and take time off work to do
it(and expensive in tolls!  ;))  I went to several local Auto store, and
asked who was the best import mechanic around.  Most gave me the same name.
I went there to meet the mechanic and talk to him in depth (before having
any work done).  I liked his manorism, his prices, and the way he handled my
car while checking it out (covered the car to not scracth it, and was carful
putting it on the lift)

I had him do some minor work to see how it went.  And i was pleased.  Then
came the BIG test, I had a Transmission problem.  At first glance, he told
me the whole tranny had to be replaced, but I asked him to consult the
problem with PJ Grady.  He did so, and it turned out the problem was a
rare/common one.  There was a relatively simple fix, and PJ Grady walked
them through it.  CAR WAS FIXED FOR $340!  WOW!  Was I ever happy!
And....the mechanic was able to swollow his pride and listen to the experts
instead of thinking they were the end-all be-all of mechanics.

I am bowled over by this guy, and plan on using him going forward.  He
stored my car inside at night, and took really good car of me, and my car.

Now that I wrote a book...

Basically, SHOP AROUND!  Dont be hasty to do things.  Take your time.  Also,
be careful who you say things about...I know you might be upset with PJ
Grady, but later on, their help and expertise could wind up saving you a few
thousand (It saved me!)

Kevin Abato
Vin# 16680
NJ Plate: BCKNTYM




-----Original Message-----
> From: dmc_delorean_2000_at_dml_yahoo.com [mailto:dmc_delorean_2000_at_dml_yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 3:43 PM
> To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Sad DeLorean in need of good Mechanic(L.I. NY)


> hi
> My cars been in the shop for over a year now, its actualy very sad. i
> send it to a mechanic to fix somthing small and they wind up breaking
> somthing major.

[same long quote snipped by moderator again]



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