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Date: Thursday, May 02, 2002 4:02 AM

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There are 18 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Aftermarket Gear shift company
From: Senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com

2. Poll "For NON-USA owners: What country do you live in?" closed
From: Jan van de Wouw <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>

3. Re: Re: adjusting door?
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

4. Re: What size is the Axle stub nut
From: "janvdwouw" <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>

5. Re: Wheel Nuts
From: "janvdwouw" <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>

6. Re: adjusting door?
From: "whocruiser" <whocruiser_at_dml_aol.com>

7. DeLorean Owners in Italy
From: Senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com

8. Re: heater
From: "janvdwouw" <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>

9. Tire Pressures Re: Mid_Atlantic Spring Social
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

10. Re: The Resurrection of Vixen Continues...
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

11. Re: Poll on past Car Show attendance
From: kkoncelik_at_dml_aol.com

12. DeLorean Mid Alantic Spring Social additional pictures
From: Senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com

13. Sean Bean in a DeLorean
From: "jamesrguk" <dmc12_at_dml_btinternet.com>

14. delorean show mileage tracker
From: "Hank Eskin" <heskin_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>

15. Re: Rear Sway Bar Installation
From: "tmpintnl" <tobyp_at_dml_katewwdb.com>

16. Teflon Clutch Cable
From: "shainbrannan" <shain_at_dml_elecmods.com>

17. Re: Re: The Resurrection of Vixen Continues...
From: "James" <tomciodmc_at_dml_poczta.onet.pl>

18. Re: adjusting door?
From: "miami5606" <miami5606_at_dml_yahoo.com>





Message: 1
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 23:43:54 EDT
From: Senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: Aftermarket Gear shift company


My records indicate that this company can reproduce the shift knob.

 California Tool Company, 1929 South Figueroa Street, Los Angeles, CA 90007,
 
The companies distributor is; Monroe & Sons Auto Parts, 7282 Westminster 
Avenue, Westminster, CA 92683. 

Best Wishes,
Michael Pack



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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 23:40:56 +0200
From: Jan van de Wouw <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>
Subject: Poll "For NON-USA owners: What country do you live in?" closed

On 18-04-2002 23:26, Yahoo! Groups Notification wrote:

Here are the final results (I deleted the options without answers):

POLL QUESTION: For NON-USA owners: What country do you live in?

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- Norway, 2 votes, 9.52%
- Great Brittain, 4 votes, 19.05%
- Ireland, 1 votes, 4.76%
- The Netherlands, 2 votes, 9.52%
- Germany, 1 votes, 4.76%
- Poland, 1 votes, 4.76%
- Switzerland, 1 votes, 4.76%
- Spain, 1 votes, 4.76%
- Other: Europe, 2 votes, 9.52%
- Other: Australia, 2 votes, 9.52%
- Other: North America (NON-USA), 4 votes, 19.05%

The complete results can be viewed on-line at Yahoo!-groups.

Thank you to the 20 that voted besides me,

JAN van de Wouw
Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

#05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 00:34:16 -0400
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Re: adjusting door?

> DO NOT TOUCH THE SCREWS ON THE DOOR HINGES!!!!!
>  These should never be touched unless the car was in an accident or
> the door was removed.

Too bad you couldn't have given that advice to my car's previous owner.  Now
I have many small dents in the top of my door and T-panel from their
alignment attempts.  One of the hinge bolts has a different size head than
the rest.  I hope they didn't cross-thread it like they did the striker pin.
Can anyone say how to adjust the hinge without referring me to some obscure
publication?

Thanks,
Walt    Tampa, FL





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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 10:17:24 -0000
From: "janvdwouw" <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>
Subject: Re: What size is the Axle stub nut

--- In dmcnews, Paul Salsbury wrote:
> I need to remove my  NUT,STUB AXLE.INNER.RH 
> part no 108514 to change my front discs, however 
>I will have to go and buy a socket as I don't have one
> large enough. What size is it? it looks around a 32mm.

As far as I know it IS a 32mm, I'm unfortunate enough to 
have plenty of exprience with the LH side concerning my
AngleDrive and a worn wheel bearing...

It's best to use a so called "Power-Socket", these have 
a hexagonal opening instead of the more common 
12 pointed ones. The hexagonals have a bigger face 
of contact on the nut, so you can exert more force 
without damaging the nut.

This same thing applies to our lugnuts by the way: 
mine were completely worn from using a 12 pointed socket. 
So bad even that I couldn't even remove them with one 
anymore. A hexagonal socket helped me out there and 
since then I've replaced all of my lugnuts anyway.

Hope this helps,

Jan van de Wouw
Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

#05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 10:35:06 -0000
From: "janvdwouw" <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>
Subject: Re: Wheel Nuts

> Does anyone know the dimensions of the DeLorean wheel 
nuts???

Threadsize is M12x1.5
Outer size is 19mm (socket-size)

The flange is slightly bigger than the socket-size 
and angles at 45degrees.
I don't know the depth of the nuts.

If you want to be sure to have the right ones just order 
them from your favorite vendor, if you don't care about 
originality as much as you care about your wallet, 
you should be able to find fitting nuts at any 
well stocked rim-shop.

I know I did; the new ones I have on now ar about 5mm 
deeper, so  they fill the nut-wells on the rear wheels better. 
I personally think they look better than the originals AND 
they're made out of one piece, while the originals are capped.
Best of all, they only cost me about $20,- locally...

Jan van de Wouw
Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

#05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 12:58:35 -0000
From: "whocruiser" <whocruiser_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Re: adjusting door?

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "miami5606" <miami5606_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> has anyone adjusted the door alignment.
> Seems like the door is hitting the aft stricker early.
> can this be done by loosening the 2x2 bolts holding the door on the 
> hinge.
> 
> Thanks Hugo

Hi Hugo -

Be VERY careful about adjustments to the doors, as there can be 
DANGEROUS consequences...  Loosening & adjusting the alignment to the 
door guides/striker plates is OK to do on your own, but DO NOT 
attempt to do any work or adjustments involving the torsion bars, or 
actual removal of the door!  If, as your e-mail address suggests, you 
are located in the Miami area, then you are lucky to be less than an 
hour's drive away from a Delorean specialist who will know exactly 
what to do with your door problem, and any other DeLorean unique 
problems thast you may experience in the future.  Take a short ride 
up I-95 to Pompano Beach and visit Dave Wynne (the nephew of Steven 
Wynne of DMC-Houston), at The Jag Shop, the only DeLorean specialist 
in Florida.  They've been taking first class care of my Delorean for 
several years now (and are currently installing a brand-new factory 
crated engine for me before I set off for Memphis!)  For details on 
the shop and how to find it, you can check out a web site I've made 
for them, located at 

http://members.aol.com/jagshopflorida

And if you are planning to drive up to the big show in Memphis in 
June, please drop me a line and maybe we can plan to caravan up 
together.

Cheers - Dan Harris - Vin#1662 - FL tag# MY 81DMC




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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 09:23:10 EDT
From: Senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: DeLorean Owners in Italy



    Several weeks ago, someone asked about DMC owners in Italy.  There are 
several DeLorean owners in Italy. The most active DeLorean owner is from 
Japan. His name is Mr. Shimohara. I believe that he is working for his 
company in Italy and has his DeLorean with him. There is a picture of him in 
front of Ital. Design with his car in the PIC of the month or file section.

Best Wishes,
Michael Pack



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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 13:40:25 -0000
From: "janvdwouw" <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>
Subject: Re: heater

In dmcnews, Marvin wrote:
[snip]
> The problem is the heater. 
[snip]
> does not "click" going into hotest heat setting.
> However, no heat is coming out of the floor vents
> or console or defroster vents.
[snip]
> If there was poor circulation of antifreeze through
> the cooling lines, wouldn't the engine overheat?
> Antifreeze looks fresh and clean. Any thoughts?

First of all congratulations on buying a DeLorean again.
As to your question;
most people don't realise that there are in fact two 
separate streams of coolant:
- One controlled by the thermostat, going through the 
   engine and then to the radiator up front that provides 
   engine cooling.
- The other is always circulating EXCEPT when you have 
   the Mode Switch set to Max. in that case a vacuum is 
   supplied to the special valve by the engine that cuts 
   the coolant flow through the heater core.

If your mode switch is connected wrong or if this valve is 
broken you won't get any hot coolant to the heater core 
so there is no way to heat up the car...

Another possibility is that the cable connecting to the 
TEMP-knob has broken or come loose and the temp-flap 
in the AC-ducting is stuck in the cold-position. 
Try to listen for the flap's movement whan you're turning 
the knob without anything else on, if you can't hear it 
moving that's probably your problem.

Good luck,

Jan van de Wouw
Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

#05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000

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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 14:43:17 -0000
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Tire Pressures Re: Mid_Atlantic Spring Social

For anyone driving at sustained high speeds the tire inflation should 
be adjusted. More important than tire pressure though is the speed 
rating of the tire. In these cases I think a good investment would be 
one of the new hand-held infrared thermometers so you can keep an eye 
on the temperatures of the tires. I hope no one is trying this on the 
NCT's!!!! Also watch the tread wear which is accelerated at higher 
speeds and temperatures. The main point to my comments about tire 
pressures is that most owners are cavalier about taking car of their 
cars. The argument that parts are expensive can't explain the 
inattention to correct tire pressures. Those four rubber ballons that 
keeps the rims off the road with some air inside is all that connects 
the car (and you) to the road!!!! Think about that the next time you 
go into a tight curve at speed in the rain. This is what the problem 
with the Ford Explorers is all about. The tires are near their maximun 
capacity, couple that with low tire pressures (which reduce load 
carrying capacitity) and the tires overheat, fail, and since it has a 
high center of gravity tend to roll over (unlike our Deloreans which 
have a LOW center of gravity).
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> David T. is correct - as usual.  However, there is an
> exception.  And, if you drive long fast interstate
> trips like I do, this is something you should know.
> 
> Check the DeLorean Workshop Manual, L;12:01.  Here
> you'll see that for "high speed" driving the
> recommended pressures are 29 PSI front and 34 PSI
> rear.  



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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 15:00:32 -0000
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: The Resurrection of Vixen Continues...

How did you "adjust" the mixture screw? It can only be correctly done 
with an exhaust gas anylizer. My guess is that is is set too rich. Try 
turning it 1/8 turn and check the spark plugs to see if it is leaning 
out. The adjustment is VERY sensitive. If it is not close the O2 
sensor and the Lambda system won't function properly as the mixture is 
too far out of range. The lambda is only capable of a small range 
above and below the ideal setpoint. Around here people don't idle 
their cars for 2-3 hours. Any vacuum leaks will keep you from getting 
it right so make sure there are no leaks.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Stragand, Dave" <dave.stragand_at_dml_k...> wrote:
> Hi All,
> I've made a bit of headway with my idling problem.  Berryman's 
ChemTool B-12 has helped to smooth things out a bit, as well as replacing the
o-ring seal under the fuel distributor and adjusting the idle mixture.



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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 10:11:26 -0400
From: kkoncelik_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Poll on past Car Show attendance

When you are done with  your poll I'll ost the actual numbers and we'll see how accurate the poll is

Today is the last day to get you registrations in for a free T-shirt.  I feel like the IRS here 
I will accept as on time any registration post marked May 1st
after that no free t-shirt and a $5 late fee.

I will be batch processing everything this weekend with help from a number of Delorean helpers in Cincinnati since I am out of town and the latee registrations will be done as I get them.

We should be well over 400 attending by the time this one is done.  There is still a high percentage of people with rooms that have not event registered.

Ken



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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 11:19:57 EDT
From: Senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: DeLorean Mid Alantic Spring Social additional pictures


DML,

    I was really busy at this years Mid Atlantic Spring Social assisting the 
professionals and owners with the DeLoreans. I was unable to photograph any 
of the days events or activities. Does anyone else have pictures from the 
event that they can post or email to me?

Sincerely,
Michael Pack



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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 16:25:22 -0000
From: "jamesrguk" <dmc12_at_dml_btinternet.com>
Subject: Sean Bean in a DeLorean

For those who are interested there are a few photos of Sean Bean 
sitting in a DeLorean from the new Moby video 'We are all made of 
stars'


www.compleatseanbean.com/guest-moby.html


James RG




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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 13:28:20 -0400
From: "Hank Eskin" <heskin_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>
Subject: delorean show mileage tracker


Hello All,

   I've already had a handful of people go to the Delorean Mileage tracker I
created - but we need more!  It's real quick and simple to enter your
estimated mileage to Memphis this summer.

As requested, I've added a feature to specify if you are driving your D,
towing your D, or driving something else.

http://www.eskin.net/delorean/tracker.php

If you want to participate, you can also email me your vin and ROUND TRIP
estimated mileage, and I'll make the entries for you.  The more people who
participate, the more meaningful (and fun) the results.

If you have any comments or suggestions, please let me know.

Thanks!

-Hank





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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 18:41:49 -0000
From: "tmpintnl" <tobyp_at_dml_katewwdb.com>
Subject: Re: Rear Sway Bar Installation

Mike - You are absolutely correct in your concern that the portion of 
the frame where the sway bar is attached is too flexible.  The 
installation was doing okay until I experienced a hard contact at a 
rough intersection.  The saddle brackets for the rear bar contacted 
the pavement, and drove the web of the frame upward about 3/8".  I 
have obtained a piece of 5056 plate (aluminum/magnesium alloy) that is 
1/4" thick, and I am in the process of fabricating upper and lower 
reinforcement doublers for the frame web.  I am going to move the 
attachment about 1" forward while I am at it.  This will correct the 
angle between the vertical link and the end of the bar.  I will offer 
up some photos after the modifications are complete.

PS - ARB = Anti Roll Bar (just in case some didn't catch it)

Toby Peterson  VIN 2248
Winged1

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Mike Griese" <mike.griese_at_dml_w...> wrote:
> Toby - From the looks of your photos, I have a concern
> that the mounting points for the rear ARB are going to
> cause the same "oil can" problem that the front ARB
> has. 




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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 19:01:06 -0000
From: "shainbrannan" <shain_at_dml_elecmods.com>
Subject: Teflon Clutch Cable

Does anyone have a used teflon clutch cable i could buy off of them. 
I know several have converted to the new stainless one.  I just need
it to compare some things.  Email me off the list at shain_at_dml_elecmods.com

- Shain
#10140




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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 15:28:15 -0400
From: "James" <tomciodmc_at_dml_poczta.onet.pl>
Subject: Re: Re: The Resurrection of Vixen Continues...

This is not entirely true. I adjusted my mixture screw without the analyzer
and went to get the emission tested the next day. Those guys working at the
emissions testing place were surprised that such an old car can run so
clean! Here are my results: HC 5 (state limit 220), CO% 0.00 (state limit
1.20), CO2% 11.9 with no limit. So it is possible to adjust that screw 'by
feel' but it's not easy.
Good with your adjustments!

Tom Niemczewski
tomciodmc_at_dml_poczta.onet.pl
vin 6298

----- Original Message -----

> How did you "adjust" the mixture screw? It can only be correctly done
> with an exhaust gas anylizer.
> David Teitelbaum
> vin 10757



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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 16:41:14 -0000
From: "miami5606" <miami5606_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: adjusting door?

Thanks Everyone.

I have mess with the pins its seems to hit the door guides early.
Some have suggeted to grind the head of the pin as needed.

Maybe getting a machine shop to creat a smaller one might be an 
option.
I'll mess with it this weekend.
And let you guys know.
It would be nice if we could set up a Forum that has an easy search 
engine. we could section it out Engine. Body.Elecrical.Ect.

I'm glad we have at least this forum.


Hugo Vin 2800




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