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Date: Thursday, May 09, 2002 11:17 PM

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There are 15 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Black Headlights from Philips DOT approved
From: Robert Brandys <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com>

2. Re: Tire matching
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

3. Re: Free Flow Exhausts available
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

4. Re: courtesy/door light mod
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

5. Re: other delorean on ebay - VIN...4750, 483 miles
From: "d_rex_2002" <rich_at_dml_outernet-tech.net>

6. Re: DeLorean for 17year old
From: "sk1pper_landry" <skipper_at_dml_sk1pper.com>

7. Re: Black Headlights from Philips DOT approved
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>

8. Re: sure a 17 yr old can own a delorean
From: "Darren Cunningham" <darren.cunningham_at_dml_virgin.net>

9. Re: rental hauling
From: Farrar Hudkins <fhudkins_at_dml_uno.edu>

10. Re: sure a 17 yr old can own a delorean
From: Trevor Johnson <comet4055_at_dml_juno.com>

11. FRAM E-Z Oil Change
From: Watkins Family <watbmv_at_dml_megalink.net>

12. RE: New Delorean DVD
From: "Ferrell970" <ferrell970_at_dml_attbi.com>

13. Re: courtesy/door light mod
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>

14. Re: Free Flow Exhausts available
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

15. Steering Bushing
From: "cpgny9" <cpgny9_at_dml_yahoo.com>





Message: 1
Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 07:03:45 -0500
From: Robert Brandys <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com>
Subject: Re: Black Headlights from Philips DOT approved

I investigated whether Phillips made the black headlight in the style of 
the DeLorean headlights a nu mber of years ago. (I talked directly to 
Phillips and they had no plans to manufacture the 6001 series) Unless 
they have begun to make new production.  The ones that are available are 
to big for the D.





deloreanernst_at_dml_aol.com wrote:


>In a message dated 5/8/02 3:02:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
>buickhawk(AT)hotmail.com writes:
>
>>I found some of them in 
>>Wisconsin.  If you would like them for your Delorean, e-mail me at 
>>
>
>Hi-
>Yeah, I'm definitely interested!  How can I get ahold of a set of these?
>-Wayne



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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 15:06:08 +0100
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Tire matching

Hi Adam,

Over here in the UK I did a bit of research about the tyres that would 
fit my car. The best choice (surprisingly in terms of price also) was 
the Pirelli P600/P6000 combo. The P6000 superceeds the P600, but you can 
only get the fronts in P6000 and the rears in P600. There's no white 
lettering on either tyre and although the tread pattern is different, 
the text on the sidewall is identical (except one says P600 and one says 
P6000 - duh :-)

I didn't like the look of my car when the tyres got dusty so I invested 
the grand sum of 3.50 in a bottle of Halfords "Wet Look Tyre Dressing". 
This stuff comes in a spray bottle (one with the lever you pump) and you 
just spray onto the tyres. I would say it's the best 3.50 I've spent on 
improving the look of my DeLorean! It lasts for weeks and stops dirt 
getting stuck on the tyre. It also makes that funny ribbed bit appear 
really well - you can see it in this picture:

http://www.delorean.co.uk/pictures/tyre.jpg - yes I've washed the wheels 
since!

Since getting my Pirellis on the DeLorean, I needed to change the tyres 
on my Citroen Xantia. I went for P6000s again because I was impressed 
with how quiet and sticky they are, and how good they are in the wet. 
The Xantia has computer controlled active roll correction which 
encourages sprited cornering - the P6000s leave the previous Michelins 
for dead.

The only text on the sidewall (apart from the "small print") is "P6000" 
and the Pirelli logo. They are V rated and the P600s are W.

Martin
#1458

adam_one_million wrote:

>What do you mean by tyre dressing? Do these tyres have white 
>lettering on them at all, maybe on one side only? Is that what you 
>meant by dressing them, painting over the lettering?
>
>Anyway, the P6000s are supposed to handle well on wet roads.. can you 
>vouch for this? Also just to clarify, we are speaking about 
>the "P6000 Sport Veloce" tyre, correct?
>
>Thanks, 
>Adam vin 16683 with front tyres bald on the outside halves... 
>matching set of Yoko Intermediates by the way.
>





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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 15:06:11 +0100
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Free Flow Exhausts available

Hi Mike

The system will be pretty much the same as this one

www.delorean.co.uk/exhaustmod.html (NB NOT one of the new systems)

I can't see any reason why you wouldn't expect a similar performance 
improvement. One thing's for sure though, these guys really know what 
they're doing, as I hope you can see from their website. 
www.stainless-exhaust.com

I can take my car to a rolling-road and get it tested, but I'm not in 
this to make money (honest), and a rolling road session costs a bit. 
You'll just have to come over and try my car out for yourself :-)

Cheers

Martin
#1458

The Atkinson Family wrote:

>Martin,
>
>Can they perform any Dyno test so we can see what this set-up does for our
>cars.  It sounds interesting but I'd like to know what it produces in HP
>before I'd go any further.  The price isn't bad if it makes a difference in
>horse power.
>
>Just my opinion.
>
>Thanks
>
>Mike Atkinson
>vin 16232
>





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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 14:21:32 -0000
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: courtesy/door light mod

There is another way to install a battery master switch and still keep 
the radio and clock alive. Install the master switch normally, pull 
the fuse that feeds the clock-radio and on the side that feeds power 
TO the radio insert a connecter attached to a wire. In the wire add a 
line fuse of the appropriate size and then connect to the BATTERY side 
of the master switch. Now when you turn off the master switch the 
clock-radio will not lose their time-programming. I use a master 
switch that has a removeable "key" so that it is also an anti-theft 
device. Now when I go to cruise nights and car shows I can leave the 
doors open and even if someone should try to turn on lights or honk 
the horn they can't kill my battery. (I also keep a battery pack in 
the car but usually only need to use it to help someone else.) I have 
found that when there are "added" switches there is usually no 
documentation so a new owner doesn't know what they are for and in 
general should remove it.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Soma576_at_dml_a... wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> i always wished there was a switch to turn off the door lights 
instead of 
> unhooking those darn switches.  well tonight i made it happen.
> 
> i went to NAPA and ordered part# TG6031 which is a 20amp 12volt 
on/off 

> 1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
> Fargo, ND 58102
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 14:30:41 -0000
From: "d_rex_2002" <rich_at_dml_outernet-tech.net>
Subject: Re: other delorean on ebay - VIN...4750, 483 miles

Hey Space Ace,

Reference to ebay #1824304739, for '81 Delorean VIN...4750, 483 miles.

You may want to re-read the infomation that was provided at the bottom
of the ebay auction (attaching relavent 'snipped' portions here).
Noah's response was right on and happens to agree with the information
at the bottom of the ebay auction.

The big red flags mentioned include previously gelled fuel in system,
needs work before it is road worthy and will need to be trailered.
This is the seller stating and recommending these things.  He also
offers the buyer to fully inspect before finalizing the deal.

This looks like a very nice "survivor" Delorean, but do not drive it
in its current condition.  Heed the advice of the seller and others.

-----------------

>ebay snips<

Vehicle Condition 

The fuel distributor will need to be replaced or refurbished due to 
gelled fuel in the system. The car does run and has no other 
mechanical problems. >snip<


Terms of Sale 

The buyer is responsible for transportation of the auto after the sale 
but I will work with you on this. The car is going to need work before 
it is road-worthy and will need to be trailered. I am not requiring a 
deposit and you are free to inspect the car before we finalize the 
transaction. >snip<

-------------------

This could be a potential Concours car, depending upon how the vehicle
was stored.  If not intended for Concours, it is still an excellent
example of a low mileage, original condition, mid production 81 model.
Trailer this 'diamond in the rough' home - do not drive it.

If you have the time and money to complete all necessary repairs prior
to the Memphis Show, I'm sure others would agree we would love to see
the car there.  Even if you do not finish the repairs in time, you can
consider trailering it there and have the experts check it out.

Good luck with your inspection and purchase of VIN...4750.

Don't forget to take a copy of the DMC Houston Inspection Checklist
to assist in your inspection (download at www.delorean.com)


Later,
Rich W.



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "spaceace3113" <spaceace3113_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> what did you guys think about the delorean on ebay with 483 miles?? 
 
> the reason im asking is cuz i won that auction ....it went for 
> 15200....im driving to VA on friday...any words of warning/ 
> caution...things to look for??   thanx




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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 14:55:52 -0000
From: "sk1pper_landry" <skipper_at_dml_sk1pper.com>
Subject: Re: DeLorean for 17year old

you're on the money with everything but one and you missed one. Dont 
buy a DeLorean expecting it to be an investment. Its not that kind of 
car. you will most likely always get your money back out of the car, 
but not make any. and remember the $20k rule. No matter what 
condition you buy a D in, expect to have a total investment of $20k 
into it before you are done.

But DO GET ONE! ive never regretted mine for a second. 

Skipper Landry
www.sk1pper.com



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Ian Stewart <istewart_at_dml_m...> wrote:
> (sincere apologies for length of message)
> 
> Hello again, list,
> 
> I felt I should reply to this topic since I'm a young person 
> (probably considered very young at 15) looking for a DeLorean.

[moderator snip]



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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 08:42:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Black Headlights from Philips DOT approved

I must disagree.  I installed the Phillips "black"
headlights on my car a number of years ago.  They were
exact replacements.

When the "superbright" halogens came out, I replaced
the "black" headlights with them.  I was not totally
satisfied with the looks in any event.  The "black"
appearance varied significantly depending upon the
angle from which you were viewing.

Dick Ryan

--- Robert Brandys <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com> wrote:
> I investigated whether Phillips made the black
> headlight in the style of 
> the DeLorean headlights a nu mber of years ago. (I
> talked directly to 
> Phillips and they had no plans to manufacture the
> 6001 series) Unless 
> they have begun to make new production.  The ones
> that are available are 
> to big for the D.

[moderator snip]



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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 17:11:14 +0100
From: "Darren Cunningham" <darren.cunningham_at_dml_virgin.net>
Subject: Re: sure a 17 yr old can own a delorean

Sorry James, i'm younger than you at the moment (at 17) and I got my RHD
DeLorean when I was 15.

Darren
12180

----- Original Message -----
From: "James La Londe" <deloreandmcxii_at_dml_excite.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 3:04 AM
Subject: [DML] sure a 17 yr old can own a delorean


> I will be 19 this june. i bought my delorean about 6 months ago. i was..
> obviously... 18 then. i believe myself to be the youngest owner (that
> is,one that owns the car.. not your parents)

[moderator snip]



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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 12:14:42 -0500
From: Farrar Hudkins <fhudkins_at_dml_uno.edu>
Subject: Re: rental hauling

When I moved from Charlotte to New Orleans, I rented a Penske truck. It
was one of those Chevy box-vans which seemed to have a standard trailer
hitch on the back. (This was before Janine got wrecked and I got Laggy.)
I rented the "tow dolly" (they called it that; I called it a car carrier
as no wheels touched the ground and it was stored vertically) which had
the standard "put this on top of the hitch, now clamp that thing"
fitting. Also some chains, presumably in case the thing really had a
disaster with the hitch. The old Mopar fit on it so I'm relatively sure
a De would.

If you have time, simply go to your local Penske/U-Haul/Budget/whatever
and ask to see a truck with a hitch. They should be happy to take you
around to have a look. It also might be handy to bring the dimensions of
your car (including wheel base) with you.

Good luck, and have fun.

Regards,
Farrar Hudkins
New Orleans, LA
'98 Ranger XLT "Laggy"
--
www.wwno.org
504-280-7000



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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 11:46:53 -0700
From: Trevor Johnson <comet4055_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Re: sure a 17 yr old can own a delorean

I bought my car, with my money 3 weeks before my 17th birthday... So, if
you want to get into who is the youngest owner, who bought the car
themselves... I will point out that I was 16...


Talk to you later!

Trevor Johnson
comet4055_at_dml_juno.com
aim-dmcboy1der



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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 15:38:38 -0400
From: Watkins Family <watbmv_at_dml_megalink.net>
Subject: FRAM E-Z Oil Change

I know we are on a "Fram sucks" thread but, has anyone seen the new
"SURE DRAIN"  product from FRAM?  It's a replacement for the oil drain
plug that quick connects to a drain hose.  You don't have to remove the
plug, just attach the connector twist it and the oil drains out.  There
are different sizes for the specific oil drain opening (not sure what
size ours is!)  Has anyone tried this new product, if so does it work
well?

I use aluminum foil to cover the frame when draining my oil, it's a easy
masking to use but if this product really works it would make oil
changes much easier.

Tom
#05732

http://www.geocities.com/outatime81/




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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 14:34:35 -0600
From: "Ferrell970" <ferrell970_at_dml_attbi.com>
Subject: RE: New Delorean DVD

Every time I try and visit that site I get an error.  Anyone else
experiencing these problems?

evans

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mytica_cr [mailto:aceu_at_dml_brilliantscreen.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 12:34 AM
> To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DML] New Delorean DVD
> 
> The upcoming Delorean DVD will now include the original Dealer Film.
> See www.BrilliantScreen.com for details.

[moderator snip]



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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 22:39:57 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: Re: courtesy/door light mod

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Soma576_at_dml_a... wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> i always wished there was a switch to turn off the door lights 
instead of 
> unhooking those darn switches.  well tonight i made it happen.
<SNIP>

Out of curiousity, do alot of people have problems with their 
courtesy lights draining their batteries? When I do work on my 
car, I always open up both doors so I can hear the radio better. 
Even with all 8 bulbs burning for a couple of hours, and a radio/
CD changer running, my car always starts right up. Granted 
though, my car is driven daily, and I have a 750 amp battery 
installed.

Just wondering because I do see the topic of door light switches 
appear semi-frequently.

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"




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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 23:51:04 +0100
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Free Flow Exhausts available

NB this is NOT the company (but thanks for pointing out my gaff)

The correct URL is www.stainless-exhaust.com

Martin

IN2TIME wrote:

> Martin,
>
> I couldn't find www.stainless-exhausts.com, as you referenced, but I
> believe I found them at http://www.stainless-exhausts.co.uk/.
>
> Gary
> IN2TIME




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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 00:38:30 -0000
From: "cpgny9" <cpgny9_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Steering Bushing

Has anyone installed the steering bushing themselves?  I am ordering 
some parts and thought that this was something that I could do on my 
own. I plan on getting an allignment once I get the bushing 
replaced.  Any comments or experiences with this job would be 
appreciated

Thanks,
Chris
20006




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