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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1031
Date: Friday, May 17, 2002 10:59 PM

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There are 13 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. PRV V-6 engine links
From: Senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com

2. Re: Smokey Yunik Delorean?
From: Senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com

3. Auto tranny cooler
From: "checksix3" <checksix3_at_dml_juno.com>

4. RE: Smokey Yunik Delorean?
From: "IN2TIME" <Gary_at_dml_IN2TIME.com>

5. Re: Happy DeLorean Thoughts
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

6. Re: Overheating Fuel Tank.
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

7. stock delorean
From: id <ionicdesign_at_dml_execpc.com>

8. Anyone need a new rear interior wall?
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>

9. RE: Anyone need a new rear interior wall?
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>

10. DeLorean Transmission choices
From: "mccarthy410" <chrismc1_at_dml_shentel.net>

11. FW: Undeliverable Mail
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>

12. Re: Auto tranny cooler
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

13. Re: Auto tranny cooler
From: Robert Brandys <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com>





Message: 1
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 16:40:04 EDT
From: Senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: PRV V-6 engine links



 This will want to make you keep the PRV V-6 engine in the 
 DeLorean. 
 
 http://douvrinprv.com/_wsn/page2.html
 
 http://members.fortunecity.com/perttim/therenault30file/id3.html


Best Wishes,
Michael Pack 



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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 16:43:00 EDT
From: Senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: Re: Smokey Yunik Delorean?

In a message dated 05/17/2002 4:26:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
Gary_at_dml_IN2TIME.com writes:

<< John made the statement at the Cleveland Show in the middle of June
 2000.
 A "Ouija board" was not required at that time, because Smokey Yunick
 didn't die until May 9th 2001.   >>

Isn't DeLorean still working on the engine & the new car?

MRP



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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 20:52:03 -0000
From: "checksix3" <checksix3_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Auto tranny cooler

OK, I'm confused. I keep seeing references to the "stock"
automatic transsmission cooler but all I can find in the 
parts manual is a reference to a "cooler hose". Does the car 
have a cooler or not?

From reading the archives I see some owners have added one but 
provide no details. Anyone wish to give me the story on doing this?

Thanks,

Gary
2874




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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 15:01:01 -0700
From: "IN2TIME" <Gary_at_dml_IN2TIME.com>
Subject: RE: Smokey Yunik Delorean?

More info than you wanted :-)
<Isn't DeLorean still working on the engine & the new car?>

Beats me, I'll get out my "Ouija board".

Stirling Engines:
http://www.sesusa.org/

More marginally relevant info:
http://www.smokeyyunick.com/PressReleases/Smithsonian.pdf

According to this site:
http://www.ultimategto.com/poci97_1.htm

The 25th Anniversary POCI Convention was held at the Holiday Inn
Southeast in Aurora Colorado (outside Denver) July 9-13, 1997. Events
included Drag Racing at Bandimere Speedway, Technical Seminar with John
Sawruk (A Chief Engineer at Pontiac who owns a '71 GT-37), Tour of Clive
Cussler's Auto Museum, and a seminar featuring Smokey Yunick & John
DeLorean 


-----Original Message-----
From: Senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com [mailto:Senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 1:43 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DML] Smokey Yunik Delorean?


In a message dated 05/17/2002 4:26:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
Gary_at_dml_IN2TIME.com writes:

<< John made the statement at the Cleveland Show in the middle of June
2000.  A "Ouija board" was not required at that time, because Smokey
Yunick
 didn't die until May 9th 2001.   >>

Isn't DeLorean still working on the engine & the new car?

MRP


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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 18:05:01 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Happy DeLorean Thoughts

Thanks for the facts Mike. Many DeLorean authorities criticize the DML
because of the high amount of trouble reports posted on the list. Like
Mike's car, most DeLoreans that are properly serviced and maintained have
few problems, are extremely reliable, and are a pleasure to drive.

DMC Joe
Tech Information, DMC Joe Help Club, & Store
"Summer Parts Sale"
http://shopping.oraclesmallbusiness.com/dsvstore
DeLorean Website Directory www.dmc.tv

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Substelny" <msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 11:00 AM
Subject: [DML] Happy DeLorean Thoughts


> The DML has seen a bunch of problems and questions about problems
> lately.  I just want to post that my DeLorean is not experiencing any
> problems.
>
> It's running great.  I drove it from Cleveland to Wheeling for the DCO
> event a couple of weeks ago with no hint of trouble.  Last fall I drove
> it from Cleveland to Evansville with no problems.
>
> I drive it in city traffic all the time with no cooling problems.
>
> Both power windows work perfectly.  So does my air conditioner.
>
> My DeLorean's doors & windows do not leak when I wash it.
>
> My dome lights work.  My tail lights work.  My brake lights work.  By
> back-up lights work.
>
> I've got about 70,000 miles on the original clutch, and it works fine.
>
> My brakes work perfectly.  My steering is nice and tight.
>
> My doors stay open when I open them (new struts) and closed when I close
> them.  I can get in and out any time I like.
>
> My cassette player works.  So does my clock.
>
> My headliners don't sag and my dashboard isn't faded.
>
> My Ducey alternator works just fine.  I haven't had a dead battery in
> years.
>
> My DeLorean's biggest problem is with radio reception.  Since replacing
> my windshield I have no antenna at all.  But I can still tune in most
> radio stations within about 20 miles, which is about the same as when I
> had the windshield antenna.
>
> - Mike Substelny
> VIN 01280, since 1994
>
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 18:08:37 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Overheating Fuel Tank.

Scott brings up an interesting subject. He said "When the gasoline heats up,
it is more prone to vaporize in the pump suction and cause cavitation".

Robert report is the forth instance I've heard concerning cavitation noise
in cars
fitted with springs inside the pick-up hose.

DMC Joe
Tech Information, DMC Joe Help Club, & Store
"Summer Parts Sale"
http://shopping.oraclesmallbusiness.com/dsvstore
DeLorean Website Directory www.dmc.tv

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_att.net>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 7:49 AM
Subject: RE: [DML] Overheating Fuel Tank.


> Robert,
> When the gasoline heats up, it is more prone to vaporize in the pump
suction
> and cause cavitation.  Cavitation sounds like gravel going through your
> pump.  The three major sources of heat are the coolant piping along side
the
> tank, hot air from the radiators and heat form the engine via the fuel
> return line.
>
>
>
> Scott Mueller
> 002981
> scott.a.mueller (at) att.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: therealdmcvegas [mailto:DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 5:28 PM
> To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Overheating Fuel Tank.
>
>
> So far, my car has been ok thru the early summer heat. But
> Tuesday I had to make a trip across town forr my job. And I had
> the car parked outside the whole day. Long story short, my fuel
> pump became quite noisy. So much so to the point where I coulf
> feel the vibration from the fuel line thru the center console!
> Durring this time, I also noticed that my voltage took a severe
> drop _at_dml_ idle. With the A/C on, and the fan on speed 2, the needle
> was down to the 2nd mark  on the voltmeter! Usually I can only
> hit that mark with the fan on 4, rear defroster, and all clearance
> lamps & high beams on! So, my guess is not that the fuel hose
> is collapsing ( there is a spring installed), but that the excess
> heat in the tank is causing the internals of the pump to expand,
> and thus grind making the sound. The kicker though, was this.
> When I parked the car for 20 minutes, and got back in, the sound
> was worse! After driving about 4-5 miles, it did quiet back down a
> bit. But did not improve from where it was before. With the
> exception of after I parked the car, and until the fuel cooled a bit,
> the accelleration on my car was fine.
>
> Now, from all this, I have determined the following:
> 1. A noisy fuel pump isn't always due to a collapsing fuel pick-up
> hose.
> 2. Air flow from the front radiator is NOT heating the fuel. When I
> stopped the air flow, the noise became worse. It wasn't until I
> restored air flow that there was a sign of cooling.
>
> So, I've determined that the heat MUST be comming from the
> coolant pipes that run along the sides of the fuel cell (I do
> believe that Walt mentioned this one before). So, now  I have the
> following questions. I've seen ads that giving a ceramic coating
> to exhaut pipes helps to keep the heat inside of them, and
> reduces the heat in the engine compartment. Does this really
> work? If so, can I expect the same results for the two sections of
> pipe next to the tank? This is the only "safe" solution that comes
> to mind. I've no idea what kind of a reaction household insulation
> would have with high water temps and/or chemicals found in
> that region of the car.
>
> Venting the tank to air flow is another entire possibility, but I have
> concerns about aerodynamics and compromising the integrity of
> the plate protecting the tank on the bottom.
>
> Ideas?
>
> -Robert
> vin 6585 "X"






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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 18:36:59 -0500
From: id <ionicdesign_at_dml_execpc.com>
Subject: stock delorean

does anybody know what a stock delorean (no turbo's or superchargers) will run in a 1/4
mile?




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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 19:51:48 -0400
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>
Subject: Anyone need a new rear interior wall?

Anyone need a new interior rear wall?  I removed mine (color gray-condition
excellent) to install my new speaker system.  I am looking to sell the
original one I took out.

Let me know if you are interested.

Thanks
Kevin Abato
Vin# 11860




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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 19:53:00 -0400
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>
Subject: RE: Anyone need a new rear interior wall?

*****  Moderator's Note  *****

Sorry, too late...

Mike G.
*****

WEBMASTER!!!

Please note that I put the wrong VIN on my last note...if you change it
before posting please do so!
VIN# 16680

DUHHH!!!  How embarrassing of me!

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Kevin Abato [mailto:delorean_at_dml_abato.net]
Sent:	Friday, May 17, 2002 7:52 PM
To:	Dmcnews (E-mail)
Subject:	Anyone need a new rear interior wall?

Anyone need a new interior rear wall?  I removed mine (color gray-condition
excellent) to install my new speaker system.  I am looking to sell the
original one I took out.

Let me know if you are interested.

Thanks
Kevin Abato
Vin# 11860




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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 23:51:07 -0000
From: "mccarthy410" <chrismc1_at_dml_shentel.net>
Subject: DeLorean Transmission choices

Hi, 


I'm looking to buy a DeLorean,  I'm torn between the Automatic and 
the 5-speed manual. I'm not that proficent with a manual due to lack 
of practice. I've been told that the Automatics have some problems 
due to computer issues.  If I do get an automatic, is their a fix for 
the computer issues,  other than getting a manual?  If so, what is 
it? If not,  sounds like I will have to get a manual to get around 
it.  I'm in Virginia

Thanks




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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 19:07:12 -0500
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: FW: Undeliverable Mail

Mike - Hope you will see this here on the DML, as the reply sent directly to
you was returned as undeliverable.

James

----------
Delivery failed 20 attempts: mike_at_dml_ninja.net

Original message follows.

Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 09:25:36 -0500
Subject: Refurbished DeLoreans
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
To: <mike_at_dml_ninja.net>

Mike -

The best way to get the answer you seek about someone's products is to go
directly to the source. Having STARTED the DML, I've been around it longer
than anyone, and I can tell you that it can be a source of great
MIS-information just as well as great information.

All the refurbished DeLoreans from DeLorean Motor Company have all the
current upgrades and 'fixes' to ensure that the car is in 'as-new or better'
condition. The includes, but is not limited to, new style window regulators,
our new improved window switches, defrost switch, exterior door handles,
overflow bottle, power antenna, shift boot, tires, wheels, and more.

Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.

James Espey
NOTE OUR NEW ADDRESS/PHONE NUMBERS
DeLorean Motor Company
15023 Eddie Drive
Humble, Texas 77396

281/441-2537 Voice
281/441-2813 Fax
800/USA-DMC1
http://www.delorean.com






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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 19:12:22 -0400
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Auto tranny cooler

> Does the car
> have a cooler or not?

It isn't obvious the first time you see it, but the transmission cooler is
built into one of the pipes connecting the engine to the radiator.  It
connects to the passenger side of the transmission with two hoses.  I have
seen DeLoreans that had this bypassed going to a radiator mounted cooler
instead.  Cooling the transmission is important because it picks up a lot of
heat from the exhaust pipe that wraps around the front of the engine.

Walt




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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 19:34:10 -0500
From: Robert Brandys <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com>
Subject: Re: Auto tranny cooler

THERE IS A SMALL HEAT EXCHANGER FOR THE TRANS THAT GOES IN THE COOLANT 
HOSE TO THE FRONT RADIATOR.  I PREFER MOUNT A DEADICATED TRANSCOOLER TO 
THIS THE STOCK TUBE.
BOB

checksix3 wrote:

>OK, I'm confused. I keep seeing references to the "stock"
>automatic transsmission cooler but all I can find in the 
>parts manual is a reference to a "cooler hose". Does the car 
>have a cooler or not?
>
>>From reading the archives I see some owners have added one but 
>provide no details. Anyone wish to give me the story on doing this?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Gary
>2874
>
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