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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1033
Date: Sunday, May 19, 2002 1:10 PM

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There are 14 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Type of fuel to use
From: "theshovel1224" <theshovel1224_at_dml_yahoo.com>

2. Re: More questions
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

3. Re: Anyone need a new rear interior wall?
From: "Marcel Bourgon" <mbourgon_at_dml_elp.rr.com>

4. Re: Type of fuel to use
From: Mark Noeltner <mark_at_dml_buffalochips.org>

5. ebay delorean
From: id <ionicdesign_at_dml_execpc.com>

6. Re: More questions
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com

7. Re: ebay delorean
From: hugo mederos <miami5606_at_dml_yahoo.com>

8. Even more questions
From: "mccarthy410" <mccarthy410_at_dml_yahoo.com>

9. Re: Type of fuel to use
From: "James" <tomciodmc_at_dml_poczta.onet.pl>

10. Re: Re: Type of fuel to use
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

11. Re: More questions
From: "Mike Aninger" <mike_at_dml_ninja.net>

12. Re: Type of fuel to use
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>

13. Re: Even more questions
From: "Joseph Molino" <foxmul_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>

14. Re: Even more questions
From: billsfanmd_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 23:43:28 -0000
From: "theshovel1224" <theshovel1224_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Type of fuel to use

I think the 91 in the manual refers to 91 in British gas,
which is different than U.S.
I have always run mine on 87 w/o any problems.

John Yeoman


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "mccarthy410" <mccarthy410_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am a new prospective owner of a DeLorean, before I buy, I'm 
> gathering all info I can.  One question comes to mind,  I know the 
> manual and several sites say to use 91 Octane fuel,  only thing close 
> to it is 93, and that does get expensive.   Can  87 or 89 Octane be 
> used with no ill effects? I'm told how the Europeans and how the U.S. 
> rates gasoline are two different things,  any truth to this?
> 
> Thanks.





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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 00:54:00 +0100
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: Re: More questions



mccarthy410 wrote:

> One, is the DeLorean shift pattern for the manual the same as any
> other car?

MOST cars have 1-5 as you state. Reverse is still car-specific in europe, and the
DeLorean's is to the left of 2, and requires the shifter to be lifted to slot it into
reverse.

> Four,  I know most speedometers go up to 85MPH,  I've
> seen ones that go to 95, 140 and 170.  Is this worth doing or is it
> mostly for asthetics?

The US spec production speedo goes to 85. The BTTF car's was doctored to go to 95. The
Euro-spec cars have 140mph speedos and someone reproduced them in a small number with
some slight modifications. The 170mph speedo is/was an aftermarket option from some
DeLorean vendors. The Canadian spec cars have 240kph speedos.

Martin
#1458




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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 18:02:09 -0600
From: "Marcel Bourgon" <mbourgon_at_dml_elp.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Anyone need a new rear interior wall?

Sounds like a interesting proposition.  Please advise what you would like
for this
Marcel
mbourgon_at_dml_elp.rr.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>
To: "Dmcnews (E-mail)" <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 5:51 PM
Subject: [DML] Anyone need a new rear interior wall?


> Anyone need a new interior rear wall?  I removed mine (color
gray-condition
> excellent) to install my new speaker system.  I am looking to sell the
> original one I took out.
>
> Let me know if you are interested.
>
> Thanks
> Kevin Abato
> Vin# 11860
>
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 18:11:09 -0600
From: Mark Noeltner <mark_at_dml_buffalochips.org>
Subject: Re: Type of fuel to use

My 1981 Owner's Manual states: "Your De Lorean is designed to operate at
factory specifications on UNLEADED GASOLINE only of at least 87 anti-knock
index (R+M/2) (91 research octane number)."

Here in the US the octane noted on the gas pump is R+M/2 or "anti-knock
index". So, 87 octane is fine for these cars unless you've modified the
motor for more horsepower. With a stock engine stay with the 87 unless you
get pinging. Too high of octane means that the fuel may not burn completely
and it could leave deposits in the engine.

Mark N
VIN 6820

At 03:18 AM 5/18/02 -0000, mccarthy410 wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I am a new prospective owner of a DeLorean, before I buy, I'm 
>gathering all info I can.  One question comes to mind,  I know the 
>manual and several sites say to use 91 Octane fuel,  only thing close 
>to it is 93, and that does get expensive.   Can  87 or 89 Octane be 
>used with no ill effects? I'm told how the Europeans and how the U.S. 
>rates gasoline are two different things,  any truth to this?
>
>Thanks. 




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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 19:11:36 -0500
From: id <ionicdesign_at_dml_execpc.com>
Subject: ebay delorean

beware of this auction.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1829862902
this is the same delorean that was selling for $9000 that needed new heads.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1826263925
the new seller is selling the vehicle as needing little work.

mark




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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 22:05:00 EDT
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: More questions

Hi,
    AAA insurance will probably be the best for insuring your DeLorean.  I 
have my car under my moms name just to make it cheaper.  It has full coverage 
and unlimited mileage and is WELL under $1000/year.  You will need to have 
another Daily driver insured through AAA or another company to keep the rates 
down.
    I called GEICO and they said it would be $4200/year in my mothers 
name(perfect record, 43 old)  Progressive was $1800/year.  I'd call AAA first.

hope this helps

David



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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 21:08:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: hugo mederos <miami5606_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ebay delorean

Thank for keeping people updated.









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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 04:26:15 -0000
From: "mccarthy410" <mccarthy410_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Even more questions

Hi again,

First of all, permit me to introduce myself, my name is Chris, I'm 22 
years old and I'm a computer technician by trade. 


I do appreciate the input given.  I have a few more questions,  I did 
read that the doors can lock on you if not unlocked properly, with 
the door closed and the problem is due to the lock solenoids.  I know 
that there is a fix for this, is this something one can do themselves?

Second question;  I've found most parts for the DeLorean through the 
various parts vendors, one thing I cannot find is a windshield,  
should it need to be replaced, has anyone had to replace their 
windshield and if so,  where does one get it?

Third question;  Since I live in a rural part of Virginia,  and as 
such, to get certain services, one has to go to Winchester or deeper 
into the Washington DC area,  since in my case taking it for repairs 
and maintenance that I cannot handle to one the specialty shops such 
as PJ Grady, DMC-Houston or DeLorean One, is not feasible.  Are there 
options in my case? Such as  mechanics in either the Winchester or 
Washington DC areas who know the DeLorean well?

Thanks again




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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 03:29:56 -0400
From: "James" <tomciodmc_at_dml_poczta.onet.pl>
Subject: Re: Type of fuel to use

Hi
It is true that the manual states to use 91 octane fuel. But you have to
remember one thing - it was written in British english! They also tell you
to check your TYRES ;). There is a different system used in Europe to
determine the octane rating. Europe uses the research method, while US uses
R+M/2 formula.
To make things simple - 91 octane in Europe is exactly the same as 87 in US.
Use 87 if you are in US and Canada. Use 91 if you are in Europe.
I hope this clears up the confusion.

Tom Niemczewski
VIN 6298 (FOR SALE)
tomciodmc_at_dml_poczta.onet.pl


----- Original Message -----
From: "mccarthy410" <mccarthy410_at_dml_yahoo.com>

> Hi,
>
> I am a new prospective owner of a DeLorean, before I buy, I'm
> gathering all info I can.  One question comes to mind,  I know the
> manual and several sites say to use 91 Octane fuel,  only thing close
> to it is 93, and that does get expensive.   Can  87 or 89 Octane be
> used with no ill effects? I'm told how the Europeans and how the U.S.
> rates gasoline are two different things,  any truth to this?
>
> Thanks.





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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 11:08:59 +0100
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Re: Type of fuel to use

Regular unleaded is 95 over here, super is 98 and Shell recently brought out Optimax
which is 99.

I think the ratings are different.

Martin
#1458

theshovel1224 wrote:

> I think the 91 in the manual refers to 91 in British gas,
> which is different than U.S.
> I have always run mine on 87 w/o any problems.
>
> John Yeoman




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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 09:55:55 -0400
From: "Mike Aninger" <mike_at_dml_ninja.net>
Subject: Re: More questions

Does it matter?  I don't own one either, but the shift pattern shouldent
matter.
----- Original Message -----
From: "mccarthy410" <mccarthy410_at_dml_yahoo.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 11:32 PM
Subject: [DML] More questions


> Hi again,
>
>
> I apologise for asking so many questions,   I have more questions.
> One, is the DeLorean shift pattern for the manual the same as any
> other car? (Example: 1 3 5
>                      | | |
>                      -----
>                      | | |
>                      2 4 R)
>
> Or is it a little different?  Two,  with the Automatic,  what fluid
> is required?  Three, I'm in Virginia,  close to Winchester and the
> Northern VA near DC,  anyone there that know DeLoreans from a repair
> standpoint?   Four,  I know most speedometers go up to 85MPH,  I've
> seen ones that go to 95, 140 and 170.  Is this worth doing or is it
> mostly for asthetics?   Five,  how easy or hard is it to insure a
> DeLorean, under a company such as Progressive, GEICO, etc.
>
> Thanks again.
>
>
>
>
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 08:16:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Type of fuel to use

It is my belief that recommendations such as this are
a bit of an over simplification.  I suggest one use
that grade which gives (or seems to give) the best
performance, or even comfort level. 

A number of factors can influence that decision.  Do
you drive "hard"?  At what altitude do you do most of
your driving (we don't all live at sea level).  Has
the car been modified in any way? ETC., ETc.!!

Use the grade that gives you the performance you want
and listen carefully for detonation.  If you
experience pre-ignition, move up a grade and make sure
your car is properly tuned.

Dick Ryan


--- James <tomciodmc_at_dml_poczta.onet.pl> wrote:
BIG SNIP - - - - 

> Use 87 if you are in US and Canada. Use 91 if you
> are in Europe.
> I hope this clears up the confusion.
> 
> Tom Niemczewski
> VIN 6298 (FOR SALE)
> tomciodmc_at_dml_poczta.onet.pl
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mccarthy410" <mccarthy410_at_dml_yahoo.com>
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am a new prospective owner of a DeLorean, before
> I buy, I'm
> > gathering all info I can.  One question comes to
> mind,  I know the
> > manual and several sites say to use 91 Octane
> fuel,  only thing close
> > to it is 93, and that does get expensive.   Can 
> 87 or 89 Octane be
> > used with no ill effects? I'm told how the
> Europeans and how the U.S.
> > rates gasoline are two different things,  any
> truth to this?
> >
> > Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 11:17:24 -0400
From: "Joseph Molino" <foxmul_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>
Subject: Re: Even more questions

Hey Chris,

I got my windshield from PJ. Grady.  I would recommend him putting it in.
Take a nice trip or get it towed up there and  take a tour of his shop.  You
can use the shipping charges you saved on to apply to your installation
charge.  This was recommended to me. I was thinking, what if I get the
windshield shipped to me and then my installer cracks it?  It doesn't cost
that much to have it installed and PJ Grady might fix other annoying
problems you might have or simply take a look over the car.  Give him a call
or check out his website.

Joseph Molino
vin 2850
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From: "mccarthy410" <mccarthy410_at_dml_yahoo.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 12:26 AM
Subject: [DML] Even more questions


> Hi again,
>
> First of all, permit me to introduce myself, my name is Chris, I'm 22
> years old and I'm a computer technician by trade.
>
>
> I do appreciate the input given.  I have a few more questions,  I did
> read that the doors can lock on you if not unlocked properly, with
> the door closed and the problem is due to the lock solenoids.  I know
> that there is a fix for this, is this something one can do themselves?
>
> Second question;  I've found most parts for the DeLorean through the
> various parts vendors, one thing I cannot find is a windshield,
> should it need to be replaced, has anyone had to replace their
> windshield and if so,  where does one get it?
>
> Third question;  Since I live in a rural part of Virginia,  and as
> such, to get certain services, one has to go to Winchester or deeper
> into the Washington DC area,  since in my case taking it for repairs
> and maintenance that I cannot handle to one the specialty shops such
> as PJ Grady, DMC-Houston or DeLorean One, is not feasible.  Are there
> options in my case? Such as  mechanics in either the Winchester or
> Washington DC areas who know the DeLorean well?
>
> Thanks again
>
>
>
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 12:32:39 EDT
From: billsfanmd_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Even more questions

Chris,
My name is Mike in Baltimore. I have had my Delorean for about 6 months and 
have met a member on the list who has helped me eith basif fuel ignition 
repiars. There is a mecahnic in Rockville, MD (which is just north of D.C.) I 
had to convince my wife (and 3 little kiddies) that repairs were not a big 
deal and help is only a phone call or the internet away....Any part you need 
for this car can be bought for a price and most so far for me have been 
reasonable... 

Feel free to email me at billsfanmd(at)aol.com and I can tell you my repair 
experience living in MD....good luck in you're search...

Mike C
2109 


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