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Topics in this digest:

1. Georgia Delorean Dealers
From: "mparish.ga" <mparish.ga_at_dml_netzero.net>

2. Re: slight idle problem and acceleration noise
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

3. Re: what motor oil is best for the delorean?
From: "ksgrimsr" <knut.s.grimsrud_at_dml_intel.com>

4. Re: simple question - hood dome light connector
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>

5. pewter Delorean
From: "antony baker" <annesley_at_dml_primus.com.au>

6. Re: RE: Vendors, new product development...
From: "Joe Thome" <joethome_at_dml_jps.net>

7. RE: Georgia Delorean Dealers
From: "timnagin" <timnagin_at_dml_mindspring.com>

8. Re: slight idle problem and acceleration noise
From: "rendy_cheng" <rcheng_at_dml_eng.umd.edu>

9. "Resurrected Barn Relic"
From: "_designer_" <_designer__at_dml_yahoo.com>





Message: 1
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 20:19:10 -0400
From: "mparish.ga" <mparish.ga_at_dml_netzero.net>
Subject: Georgia Delorean Dealers

Does anyone know who the past Delorean dealers were in Georgia?




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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 13:49:10 -0000
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: slight idle problem and acceleration noise

To get the motor to idle smooth all 6 cylinders must be within 5% of 
each other in all respects. All of the fuel injectors must have 
perfect patterns and similar pressures, all spark plugs gapped and in 
good shape, all ignition wiring in top shape, all cylinder pressures 
within 5% and so on. If you have 1 cylinder out a little the idle 
drops and then the idle motor tries to compensate. By time the 
correction kicks in you are on the better cylinders so you overshoot 
because the correction was too late so now the idle motor tries to 
slow the motor down and now you have the hunting you notice. Start by 
checking the cylinder pressures. If they aren't within 5% nothing will 
help. If they are close have the fuel injectors checked and cleaned on 
an injector tester. Properly set up the engine can be "super smooth".
 For the noise you hear check the idler bearings for the fan belt, 
they get noisy before they fail. Very common for Deloreans to have the 
idle improperly set up, most mechanics don't understand the system so 
they try to "fix" things by turning adjustments. 
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Soma576_at_dml_a... wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> thanks to Gary (checksix), i was able to find the problem with my 
idle not 
> kicking down.  my throttle was incorrectly adjusted ever since i 
bought the 
> car in 2000!!  well it kicks down like it should, in fact, the car 
seems to 
> have a lot more kick now than it used to!  i love it!
> 
> my only complaint is that the idle is a little random at idle speed. 
 the 
> needle seems to hover around 750 or so, and it moves around all over 
the 
> place randomly from about 450 to almost 1000, then it goes back to 
750 for a 
> bit, then dances, then back to 750.  i know the engine isn't 
supposed to be 
> super smooth, but seems a little excessive.  what can i do to 
smoothen things 
> out?  i know my engine CAN be better because it used to be until i 
adjusted 
> everything over again.  sometimes it is so erratic my oil pressure 
never 
> drops to 40 like it usually does at idle speed.
> 
> also, i've had this problem for a while too - on accelerating in any 
gear in 
> any manner, i hear a noisy vibration sound from the engine between 
about 2500 
> to 2900 RPM.  you can go slow and it starts, or you can go fast, 
it's there.  
> it's quite high frequency, sounds metallic.  it used to sound like 
air 
> whooshing in an odd way, but lately it's sounded abrasive.  it will 
do this 
> upon deceleration too, but it doesn't sound as loud.
> 
> any idea what this could be?
> 
> Andy
> 
> Soma576_at_dml_a...
> 1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
> Fargo, ND 58102
> 
> 
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 19:56:00 -0000
From: "ksgrimsr" <knut.s.grimsrud_at_dml_intel.com>
Subject: Re: what motor oil is best for the delorean?

[MODERATOR'S NOTE: This thread has been covered extensively in the 
archives and is not being re-opened. Check your owner's manual for 
the manufacturer's recommended oil type. For other alternatives there 
are plenty conflicting opinions on oil type to use captured in the 
previous archives.]

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "fluxmcfly" <bfreyguy_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> What kind of oil is best for my delorean? Any help would be 
> appreciated very much. 
>  thanks
>  Brian




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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 01:14:07 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: Re: simple question - hood dome light connector

That's interesting, I'll have to check that tool out and add it to the 
collection of items in my DeLorean repair kit.

Just incase you may not have this same item on you, and 
something happens out on the road, there is another option for 
emergencies: bubble gum. Just chew until the sugar is gone, 
put the wad on the end of a stick, and polk the item you need to 
pick up. Not the ideal way to retrieve things, but it does work.

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., billsfanmd_at_dml_a... wrote:
> I have a little tool I bought at a hardware store...Kind of like a 2 
foot 
> snake with little tiny claws on the end which is great for 
retrieving objects 
> that you drop and teeter on impossible sections of the 
car...Maybe something 
> like that could reach down and grab it....Kind of like the claw/
crane game at 
> an arcade only you dont need quarters....this tool cost me 
about $3 and has 
> saved me several times from having a small nut or bolt 
disappear into the 
> bowells of the PRV.
> 
> Mike C
> 2109




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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 01:25:45 +0930
From: "antony baker" <annesley_at_dml_primus.com.au>
Subject: pewter Delorean

Hi, I have a pewter Delorean(made by Collectors Case) with opened 
gullwing doors that I may sell, what would it be worth?

Thanks, Antony


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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 11:27:47 -0700
From: "Joe Thome" <joethome_at_dml_jps.net>
Subject: Re: RE: Vendors, new product development...

Stian,

Your suggestion about vendors getting their money up front for a product
they are interested in bringing to market is an excellent one. If any of the
established vendors were to propose a product and it appealed to me I'd be
willing to pay for it in advance with the idea that my money would be
returned in a reasonable time if the development was abandoned.

Speaking of side mirrors, one idea I'd like to see come to market is a side
mirror which could easily replace the original side mirror but that would
incorporate a red turn signal on its outer edge. A white curtsey light at
the bottom to illuminate the ground below it might not be a bad idea either.
I've seen both those features on some high end new model cars and SUVs I
think they both are a good safety feature. The mirror would have to rather
closely resemble the original mirrors so as to not spoil the original
beautiful look to the car.

Joe Thome
VIN 6467

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stian Birkeland" <delorean_at_dml_online.no>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 12:47 PM
Subject: [DML] RE: Vendors, new product development...


> A few comments -
> If there is trouble to have people pay after a part has been developed,
why not make them pay in advance?
> I, for one, would have absolutely no trouble with that. I'm one of DMC
Houston most satisfied customers, their service and knowledge is great, and
lets face it - it is only they who can take the DeLorean on to "another
level" based on their warehouse of DeLorean parts.
>
> Again, I would like to remind people of the poll concerning new
re-developed parts.
>
> James, does DMC Houston have plans for a small temperature gadget that
could be fitted in the space of the centre console clock? It would be very
nice to know the outside temperature. Wide angle mirrors are also a thing
that would make the DeLorean more modern.
>
> And the torsion bar issue. Do you have the blueprints/info on how to make
these bars or is this info lost?
> If it is lost, be sure to get in touch with the retired engineers at
Grumman before they pass away. We need this info.
>
> Finally, you have mentioned that a bracket is coming soon, the bracket for
holding down the T-panel behind the rear louvers. When will that be ready?
>
> Other than this, can you tell us what other parts DMC Houston are
considering to re-manufacture?
>
> Very best wishes
> Stian Birkeland
> Norway
>
> VIN # 06759
>
> Unfortunately unable to attend Memphis :-( But you guys have a great time,
you hear! :-)
>
>
> Message: 5
>    Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:18:01 -0500
>    From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
> Subject: Vendors, new product development...
>
> Precisely why I had to smile when Stian mentioned this - it's a great idea
> to have people pre-pay to order a part that's being developed, but when
it's
> time for people to put their money where their mouth is, it's often a
> different story.
>
> On things like the switches, door handles, etc - in order to make the cost
> reasonable (note that the three aforementioned products actually came DOWN
> in price from previous retail), a relatively large minimum order for
> production is required. Particularly when you consider how many cars are
> left and actively used.
>
> So it becomes a numbers game - how many can you sell, at what price, to
get
> a return on the investment (at least recovering expenses, preferably
making
> some money if for nothing else than to have something ELSE
remanufactured)?
> A lot of stuff doesn't make the cut (yet) based on that.
>
> Stian mentioned the two tank senders, and Martin pointed out that
> competition is healthy. In this case, Tankzilla is a fine product, and we
> have used them for several years. But the price turns a lot of people off,
> and at times, we have had problems with availability (though not very
> often). Our tank sender will retail for considerably less than half the
> price of Tankzilla, and as we had them manufactured ourselves,
availability
> shouldn't be a problem for us.
>
> James
>
> >> Why don't some of the vendors do this?
> >> Put forward an offer on a part that will be reproduced. Let people
> >> pre-order, and hold the credit card on file...so when the part has
> >> been reproduced they charge the card and ship it out.
> >> This method could boost development time for replacement DMC parts
> >> of higher quality...
> >
> (SNIP)
> > prior to embarking. He didn't ask for a "credit card commitment" up
front as
> > suggested above, just an indication of interest.  As a vendor for 16
years,
> (SNIP)
> > support expressed, how hard could it be to sell 100 sets?
> >
> > Harder than we thought.  After 5+ months of fairly high visibility on
the DML
> > we have sold exactly 59 sets.  Many of those who expressed initial
support
> > never came through with orders.
> (SNIP)
> > Was it worth putting up close to 6 grand to see so little (less than 1%)
> > interest in the TABs?  Not from a business perspective. But we who
support the
> > hobby the rest of you enjoy will keep doing it.  Or most will.  Its up
to you.
> > Darryl T.
> > Specialty Automotive
>
>
>
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>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 14:31:58 -0400
From: "timnagin" <timnagin_at_dml_mindspring.com>
Subject: RE: Georgia Delorean Dealers

There were six dealerships in Georgia.

Atlanta 30326
Hub Motor Company
3310 Peachtree Road N.E.
Ford
404-261-8100

Atlanta 30315
Nalley Chevrolet-Honda, Inc.
2555 Stewart Avenue S.W.
Chevrolet/Honda
404-766-1661

Chamblee 30341
Bill Spreen Toyota, Inc.
4856 Buford Highway
404-458-8601

Columbus 31908
Bill Heard Chevrolet Co.
3615 Manchester Expressway
Chevrolet
404-322-8881

Savannah 31401
Southern Motors of Savannah, Inc.
402 E. Broughton
AMC/Honda/Jeep
912-234-6682

Tucker 30084
Plaza Pontiac, Inc.
4241 LaVista
Pontiac
404-939-9300

-----Original Message-----
From: mparish.ga [mailto:mparish.ga_at_dml_netzero.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:19 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Georgia Delorean Dealers


Does anyone know who the past Delorean dealers were in Georgia?




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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 20:09:19 -0000
From: "rendy_cheng" <rcheng_at_dml_eng.umd.edu>
Subject: Re: slight idle problem and acceleration noise

Two months ago, I have the exact same problem.  The cause of 
this problem is dirty fuel line.  One of my injector does not spray 
well.  Once the injector is cleaned, the car idle smoothly.

rendy
vin 4220

>the needle seems to hover around 750 or so, and it moves 
around all over the 
> place randomly from about 450 to almost 1000, then it goes 
back to 750 for a 
> bit, then dances, then back to 750. 




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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 21:09:41 -0000
From: "_designer_" <_designer__at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: "Resurrected Barn Relic"

I'm glad I wandered back to the DML after a 5 year absence... the 
Yahoo Groups interface is a nice touch.

I would like to find out more about the DMC who's photo is posted in 
the group's album (Posted: 28-Feb-2002 by tmpintnl)...  The red DMC.  
Please e-mail me or write to the list with a little history.  Sorry 
if info already exists on this car.  I searched the archives but 
found nothing :(




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