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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1075
Date: Monday, June 17, 2002 12:06 AM

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There are 15 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Electo-luminescent gauge face
From: Stephen Jarvis <jarvist_at_dml_mindspring.com>

2. Re: Key Copies
From: "basfe25" <drrub46_at_dml_hotmail.com>

3. Re: Key Copies
From: "jeremys_im" <jeremysmail_at_dml_softhome.net>

4. Re: Key Copies
From: "Payne" <bpayne_at_dml_macnet.com>

5. Re: Key Copies
From: "Ralph Isenberg, III" <delorean1981dmc_at_dml_hotmail.com>

6. Re: Key Copies
From: "David Cox" <dmcox_at_dml_tfb.com>

7. Re: Key Copies
From: "A.H. MacIntosh & Co." <dmc12_at_dml_mlecmn.net>

8. Custer Master Cylinder replacement
From: "Rob van der Veer" <rob.van.der.veer_at_dml_delorean-europe.com>

9. Cooling Fan and Air conditioning Question
From: "mparish.ga" <mparish.ga_at_dml_netzero.net>

10. Re: slight idle problem and acceleration noise
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

11. Mileage on a Delorean - does it matter?
From: "iqmpike" <iqmpike_at_dml_yahoo.com>

12. Memphis Update Sat
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

13. Arabian DeLoreans?
From: "Ian Foster" <ian_at_dml_netvigator.com>

14. RE: Key Copies
From: "K Creason" <dmc4687_at_dml_mindspring.com>

15. Re: Mileage on a Delorean - does it matter?
From: Meyerleem_at_dml_cs.com





Message: 1
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 11:52:50 -0600
From: Stephen Jarvis <jarvist_at_dml_mindspring.com>
Subject: Electo-luminescent gauge face

Group,

While browsing the paper version of the Bavarian Motorsport May/June
specials catalogue, I noted a dash insert offered on their page 14.  The
gauges are shown in blue, but the description says the color is instantly
switchable to green. The same switch determines the level of intensity.
While this catalogue is for BMWs this technology could be interesting for
livening up our humble Delorean dashes.

The site is available at www.bavarianautosport.com/shop.asp (another address
is www.bavauto.com)

They ask for a year and model...I put in 1993 318i (they aren't made for all
years).  Then I used the search window to find "Dash gauges". The items
shown can be enlarged, and they change color.

There is also an optional Aluminum gauge face.  All require removal of the
needles to install and they include a tool to do so.

Maybe an entrepeneur among us would want to research the manufacturer or
technology.

Steve Jarvis
#3542




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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 20:56:48 -0000
From: "basfe25" <drrub46_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Key Copies

Go to a local locksmith. If they can cut a key for a volvo then they 
can cut a Delorean key. Same blanks.

Steve

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "adam_one_million" <acprice1_at_dml_h...> wrote:
> Has anyone found a place that makes delorean key copies? 
> I tried HomeDepot and Ace Hardware and both places don't have the 
> right machine to make a delorean key.  I know PJGrady sells 
delorean 
> key blanks, but they wont do me any good if i cant get them etched.
> 
> Thanks,
> Adam




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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 18:09:41 -0000
From: "jeremys_im" <jeremysmail_at_dml_softhome.net>
Subject: Re: Key Copies

I had the same problem with my Mercedes Key, neither Lowes 
or Home Depot were set up for it. took it to a serious locksmith 
who stuck it in a computer and basically scanned in the 
scanned. they then took out the key and the scanning bit and 
replaced with a blank key and cut bit. Then they downloaded the 
scanned results back and it cut the key.

On a typical car key they just stick both on a sort of grinder and 
make a duplicate this way the computer does all the work. The 
difference when done byu hand on a grinder it's $2. When does 
by the computer it's $20.

I sure someone else can do custom keys cheaper but I wouldnt 
know ehere and this place is just down the street and I know 
their work.

Jeremy




--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "adam_one_million" <acprice1_at_dml_h...> 
wrote:
> Has anyone found a place that makes delorean key copies? 
> I tried HomeDepot and Ace Hardware and both places don't 
have the 
> right machine to make a delorean key.  I know PJGrady sells 
delorean 
> key blanks, but they wont do me any good if i cant get them 
etched.
> 
> Thanks,
> Adam




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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 17:12:51 -0700
From: "Payne" <bpayne_at_dml_macnet.com>
Subject: Re: Key Copies

My local locksmith was easily able to make a copy of my door key (2-key
system).  He just used a Volvo Key blank and it worked perfectly.  However
he cut both sides of the key exactly the same and it still works.  My
original door key is cut differently on either side but still works no
matter which side of the key I have up.  Does this just mean I have a badly
worn lock cylinder?

payne
#2975

> Has anyone found a place that makes delorean key copies?
> I tried HomeDepot and Ace Hardware and both places don't have the
> right machine to make a delorean key.  I know PJGrady sells delorean
> key blanks, but they wont do me any good if i cant get them etched.
>
> Thanks,
> Adam
>






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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 01:48:12 -0400
From: "Ralph Isenberg, III" <delorean1981dmc_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Key Copies

I had mine copied at Wal Mart. Believe it or not the blanks that worked were 
for a Saturn!


>From: "adam_one_million" <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
>To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [DML] Key Copies
>Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 04:24:56 -0000
>
>Has anyone found a place that makes delorean key copies?
>I tried HomeDepot and Ace Hardware and both places don't have the
>right machine to make a delorean key.  I know PJGrady sells delorean
>key blanks, but they wont do me any good if i cant get them etched.
>
>Thanks,
>Adam
>
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 07:50:34 -0700
From: "David Cox" <dmcox_at_dml_tfb.com>
Subject: Re: Key Copies

I just got 2 new keys from Home Depot about 2 weeks ago.  They used the
Axxess+ A-51R blanks.  The "R" is for rubber-head.  They were out of the
plain, metal-head A-51 blanks, but I liked the rubber headed ones better.
The guy told me that this was a key for a Lexus, but the machine didn't have
any problems and both keys work fine.  The Axxess+ system tied together the
key blanks and the machine, so maybe it depends on if your store has this
system?  Maybe with this information you could try Home Depot again?

Dave
vin 16367

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> Message: 6
>    Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 04:24:56 -0000
>    From: "adam_one_million" <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>
> Subject: Key Copies
>
> Has anyone found a place that makes delorean key copies?
> I tried HomeDepot and Ace Hardware and both places don't have the
> right machine to make a delorean key.  I know PJGrady sells delorean
> key blanks, but they wont do me any good if i cant get them etched.
>





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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 11:19:21 -0500
From: "A.H. MacIntosh & Co." <dmc12_at_dml_mlecmn.net>
Subject: Re: Key Copies

"Taylor" x29 blank is a tad long, but works great for ignition.... same one
as 90 Isuzu if memory serves me correctly.


----- Original Message -----
From: "adam_one_million" <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 23:24
Subject: [DML] Key Copies


> Has anyone found a place that makes delorean key copies?
> I tried HomeDepot and Ace Hardware and both places don't have the
> right machine to make a delorean key.  I know PJGrady sells delorean
> key blanks, but they wont do me any good if i cant get them etched.
>
> Thanks,
> Adam
>
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 20:30:44 +0200
From: "Rob van der Veer" <rob.van.der.veer_at_dml_delorean-europe.com>
Subject: Custer Master Cylinder replacement

Hi List,

I'm probably in need of a replacement clutch master cylinder. I've read
somewhere that you could use a Girling #74660158 as a good replacement.

Can anybody on the list confirm this? Maybe someone knows about another
replacement?

BTW. I know that the DeLorean parts are better bought from the 'official'
shops, but having the parts sent over to Europe just costs way too much (and
I mean taxes and transportation).

Yours,

Rob.




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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 20:14:54 -0400
From: "mparish.ga" <mparish.ga_at_dml_netzero.net>
Subject: Cooling Fan and Air conditioning Question

Hi,

I just purchased a 1982 Delorean and after driving it long enough to get the engine hot the cooling fan came on, but since it came on it has stayed on. Any ideas as to what's wrong with it. Where should I start? I assume it should cut off once the temp drops back down below 220? 

Also, the air in the car seems to cycle on and off. After driving and running the air for about 10-15 minutes, the fan/compressor? will cut off for about 10-20 seconds and then cut back on. I had a mechanic tell me that was ok, it was just the way it worked? Does this sound right? Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Michael Parish
#11225


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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 02:23:13 -0000
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: slight idle problem and acceleration noise

I don't care how new or "certified" your parts are. All it takes is a 
TINY amount of dirt in a fuel line and now you have an injector with a 
bad pattern. The point is you can't just throw new parts into a system 
that has dirt in it and expect it not to screw up your new parts. With 
all of the problems you have had with your fuel system I believe you 
still have dirt in there that is now working it's way throughout the 
system. As I have claimed in the past most fuel system problems start 
in the fuel tank, meaning if there is ANY dirt in there it is 
indicitive of dirt in the entire system and that means you must clean 
out the entire system to remove ALL of the dirt. The good news is that 
you can probably just clean the injectors and they will be OK but 
unless you really clean out all of the system this will keep 
happening. Chemical treatments won't usually fix problems with dirt. 
They are meant for cleaning systems that have gummed up from old fuel, 
not inorganic forgein matter. I don't think they have yet made 
"Mechanic in a bottle".
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Soma576_at_dml_a... wrote:
> In a message dated 6/13/02 6:11:51 PM Central Daylight Time, 
> rcheng_at_dml_e... writes:
> 
> 
> > Two months ago, I have the exact same problem.  The cause of 
> > this problem is dirty fuel line.  One of my injector does not 
spray 
> > well.  Once the injector is cleaned, the car idle smoothly.
> 
> 
> I have a hard time believing i have a dirty injector.  four months 
a




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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 02:37:48 -0000
From: "iqmpike" <iqmpike_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Mileage on a Delorean - does it matter?

hey all...

I have had my DMC for a little over a year... got a pretty rare one 
(early VIN #855, gas flap, black leather interior, and auto)...

I was told these are all rare traits (the gas flap and black 
interior being the most rare, and the auto was the second most 
rare)..

The car is also in show-room new condition, with not even creases in 
the seats from being sat in... the leather is as smooth as a babies 
butt.

the MAJOR selling point for me was the mileage, only having 4300 
miles on it when I got it....

I not have about 5100 on it now.... I specifically never drive it (I 
start it once a week, and take it around the block a few times) 
because of the low mileage.

It runs superb, I am the second owner, and the first owner did the 
same thing I do to it (that's where I got the care instuctions)...

for the most part, I have updated a lot of stuff that needed it, 
keeping all original parts.... I needed a headlight switch, 
brakelight switch, tankzilla (i guess thats not really OEM), the 
tail light circuit boards from PJ Grady (again I guess not OEM, but 
I still have the originals of all those parts)...

the air is ice cold.... it's my dream machine...

And to put it blatently - it drives me nuts not driving it!!!!!

My wife told me to sell it, and get one that I do not need to worry 
about the mileage on so I can enjoy it....

I know this car has been babied.... I want to drive it, but because 
of mileage, I can't....

My question is this..... does low mileage really mean anything???

Would I be ok driving this on the weekends like I want to, or should 
I buy another Delorean for that, and shrink-wrap this one in a 
carcoon?

opinions appreciated.... is it really worth me keeping the mileage 
low, and drooling over my own car because I don't want to drive it 
and run up the miles?

Mike
VIN 855





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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 23:53:15 -0500
From: "Dave Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: Memphis Update Sat

It's loaded. Off to the afterdinner parties.

Dave

www.dmcnews.com




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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 19:04:38 +0800
From: "Ian Foster" <ian_at_dml_netvigator.com>
Subject: Arabian DeLoreans?

Hi DMCers,

Someone recently asked about DeLoreans in the Middle-East!?! In the June'02
issue of "Thoroughbred and Classic Cars" (page 22) it shows an 'abandoned'
'82 in its 'discovered' section.

She has been badly sprayed red. The photo shows the paint lifting off the
bonet in a single sheet! It notes there was at least 7mm of primer and top
coat used to try and bond it to the stainless! Its a sad looking lhd
DeLorean but supposedly complete and restorable.

Cheers,             IAN (Hong Kong)
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 15:55:32 -0500
From: "K Creason" <dmc4687_at_dml_mindspring.com>
Subject: RE: Key Copies

No, your cylinder isn't worn. Well,it may be, but the key working that way
doesn't necessarily mean it is worn.
It you examined the key there are probably five or six bits (cuts) that are
the same and in the same position. Only those bits are used, the rest are
superfluous for that particular lock and are used in other locks on the car.

I do some locksmith tinkering... I bought a mess of the volvo blanks and am
(but haven't in a while) making a set of depth gauges so that I can cut keys
back to original depths. It probably would be easier to just pull my
headliner and see if I have my key-code and go to a fully stocked
locksmith... but even then, he may not be able to help everyone, which is
what I would like to be able to do.

-Kevin
#4687
Houston

-----Original Message-----
From: Payne [mailto:bpayne_at_dml_macnet.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 7:13 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DML] Key Copies


My local locksmith was easily able to make a copy of my door key (2-key
system).  He just used a Volvo Key blank and it worked perfectly.  However
he cut both sides of the key exactly the same and it still works.  My
original door key is cut differently on either side but still works no
matter which side of the key I have up.  Does this just mean I have a badly
worn lock cylinder?

payne
#2975

> Has anyone found a place that makes delorean key copies?
> I tried HomeDepot and Ace Hardware and both places don't have the
> right machine to make a delorean key.  I know PJGrady sells delorean
> key blanks, but they wont do me any good if i cant get them etched.
>
> Thanks,
> Adam
>





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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 18:56:29 EDT
From: Meyerleem_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: Re: Mileage on a Delorean - does it matter?

DRIVE IT!!! My Car has 14000 Original miles on it the seat are perfect as is 
the rest of the car. It isn't original becaused of the twin turbos but looks 
great. You but the car to have something cool, must attention getting car on 
the road. Enjoy it the money you save on apprieciation isn't worth the missed 
enjoyment

                                                    Lee Meyer
                                                            #1699
    Yes I do have the black interior and gas flap I also have the 5spd.



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