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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1084
Date: Friday, June 21, 2002 8:52 PM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Re: built-in fire extinguishers
From: "Chris Boden" <cboden_at_dml_thegeekgroup.org>

2. Pigeon Forge Reservations
From: "Stragand, Dave" <dave.stragand_at_dml_ketchum.com>

3. Re: 3 things appeared
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

4. stalling, power loss, and crazy gagues
From: Louie G <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>

5. Cool website!
From: "deauville81" <info_at_dml_pantera-it.com>

6. Re: Fuel injector cleaning
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com

7. Modified Delorean measurements/numbers
From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com>

8. Re: Cool website!
From: "Hank Eskin" <heskin_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>

9. Re: in search of car
From: bobrefahc_at_dml_aol.com

10. RE: built-in fire extinguishers
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>

11. Re: Fuel injector cleaning
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

12. Re: strange start problems << I have a similar issue
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

13. Re: stalling, power loss, and crazy gagues
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

14. Re: Re: DeLorean font
From: Mark Noeltner <mark_at_dml_buffalochips.org>

15. Re: 3 things appeared
From: "erikgeerdink" <erikgeerdink_at_dml_yahoo.com>

16. Re: Minichamps model
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>

17. Re: DeLorean font
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>

18. Re: stalling, power loss, and crazy gagues
From: "tmpintnl" <tobyp_at_dml_katewwdb.com>

19. Re: Fuel injector cleaning
From: "tmpintnl" <tobyp_at_dml_katewwdb.com>

20. Re: Memphis again ...
From: Farrar Hudkins <fhudkins_at_dml_uno.edu>

21. Re: Re: built-in fire extinguishers
From: "Mike Aninger" <mike_at_dml_ninja.net>

22. Re: 3 things appeared
From: "tmpintnl" <tobyp_at_dml_katewwdb.com>

23. Another page of car show pictures
From: "twinenginedmc12" <twinenginedmc12_at_dml_gendreaumicro.com>

24. Re: Re: stalling, power loss, and crazy gagues
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

25. On Alternators
From: "Mike Substelny" <msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu>





Message: 1
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 12:10:06 -0400
From: "Chris Boden" <cboden_at_dml_thegeekgroup.org>
Subject: Re: Re: built-in fire extinguishers

Setting up a HALON system in an engine bay is safe and easily done. I would strongly advise against doing it for the passenger compartment however. The warning is correct HALON removes oxygen from the ambiant air and will suffocate the driver. HALON is also MUCH heavier than air, simply opening the doors would clear the car in seconds. For just the engine compartment you can obtain a standard sized bottle from half a dozen racing companies. Install 2 nozzles in the engine compartment, mount the bottle similar to the battery (behind the seat), and setup a pull-cable to the dash. When you tank the t-bar, the bottle empties into the engine bay.

This would put out just about any fire in the engine bay, and not leave any mess.

For use IN the car, I would reccomend CO-2, get a 10-pounder on a quicklatch mount. It will also displace oxygen, but it's not nearly as hazardous as HALON. Besides, with CO2 frostbite would be a bigger worry :)

In my experiance we had a halon system throughout the whole car with one nozzle aimed at my feet shooting up my legs, and one in the engine bay. But that was OPEN COCKPIT Formula cars. If you have any questions feel free to ask.




>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_a...> wrote:
>> [MODERATOR NOTE: I hesitate to inject technical criticisms into any 
>subscriber's post, but I've got to caution against installing a HALON 
>system that empties into the passenger compartment.  I believe that 
>this could be very, very dangerous!  -Moderator Mike Substelny]
>> 
>> I'm thinking about installing a built-in fire extinguisher into my 
>DeLorean, and I'm wondering if anyone has any experience or advice 
>concerning these.
>

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 13:12:39 -0400
From: "Stragand, Dave" <dave.stragand_at_dml_ketchum.com>
Subject: Pigeon Forge Reservations

I've had a bit of a hassle with the folks at the 800 number telling me no two-double-beds rooms were available for the show (~$60/night), and they booked me for a two-king-beds room (~$120).  

After talking to Ken though, I found that this was not actually the case.  There should be more of the $60 rooms available, but you may have to push them a bit to get them to reserve one for you.  Even if you tell them that you're with the show, it seems that they aren't looking in our block for open rooms. Get a supervisor on the line if you need to (said the supervisor I talked to) when you're making the reservations.

-Dave Stragand
VIN #05927



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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 12:41:33 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: 3 things appeared

What is the age and condition of your distributor cap?

DMC Joe,
DMC Joe Help Club
DeLorean Web Mall:  http://www.geocities.com/dmcjoe/home.html

DeLorean Website Directory www.dmc.tv

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "erikgeerdink" <erikgeerdink_at_dml_yahoo.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [DML] 3 things appeared


> --- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_p...> wrote:
> > 2. Do you have a updated clutch line?  or the orig plastic one?
> 
> I have the upgraded SS line, installed by Marty Maier and Micah Fryman
> > 
> > 3. Common problem with old dry ignition wires.  A good way to 
> double check this is in a DARK garage, start the car and mist some 
> water over the engine (with a spray bottle).  You will probably see 
> sparks jumping between the wires and engine.
> 
> I also have brand new wires.  They were installed about 1200 miles 
> ago.
> 
> Any other ideas????
> 
> 
> 
> [duplicate quote snipped by moderator]





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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 11:18:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Louie G <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: stalling, power loss, and crazy gagues

Hello list,
  I just got in from driving my D for the first time in a week and she is acting up. When I first started it, I noticed it was idling extremely low... around 500 RPM. When I went to drive, it had a serious lack of power, and would just sputter when I gave it more than 1/4 throttle or so. This got better when I got it out on the highway, and it ran for a little bit. Unfortunately When I pull up to stop signs it stalls every time. The voltage gague is going up and down from 10.6-13.0 (I have a dakota digital dash).

  Just for some background, we replaced several coolent hoses last weekend on the car... one which was on the left side of the engine towards the transmission (the others were the ones underneath the car half under the "belly pan"). We had to replace the voltage regulator within the last month or so also. I'm thinking maybe I knocked something loose last weekend while we were changing the hoses. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Louie Golden
#10115 Sanford, NC

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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 18:39:24 -0000
From: "deauville81" <info_at_dml_pantera-it.com>
Subject: Cool website!

Hi everybody,

We just created a new community for DeLorean owners and enthusiasts!
Check it out by visiting http://delorean.carcommunity.net
Hope to see you soon!

Cheers,
Roel




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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 14:50:58 EDT
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Fuel injector cleaning

HI,
    I took my injectors to a Diesel injection shop.  They cleaned and bead 
blasted all 6 injectors for $50.00.  You may want to look into that.  Just 
don't tell them that they are for a DeLorean or they will run away....

Dave



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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 14:55:42 -0400
From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Modified Delorean measurements/numbers

Thought I'd try to help with numbers...

I measured 140db from my header because no one wants to put a muffler on
it.
I also measured about 4 seconds of smoke in the eyes before all vision is
lost.

Is that enough numbers?

Also- I was just down at Skips' exhaust in Plaistow, NH, he said someone
had just stopped by with a D, wanted to know if you were on the list..

that's all.  If I get any more numbers, I will post.

Jim 1537



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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:17:13 -0400
From: "Hank Eskin" <heskin_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>
Subject: Re: Cool website!

> We just created a new community for DeLorean owners and enthusiasts!
> Check it out by visiting http://delorean.carcommunity.net

I hate to be a party-pooper, but other than being able to post pictures of
our cars, just what does this new website offer that the DML (and
dmcnews.com) doesn't already have?  I think I speak for alot of people here
when I say that I really don't see the need for Yet Another Delorean Site
(tm) to talk about our cars.

-Hank Eskin #1619




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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:21:12 EDT
From: bobrefahc_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: in search of car

Ref. your request (in search of car)

If you or anyone is interested I have for sale the following Delorean.  I 
have owned it for the past eight years. Due to my age (75) and health I now 
must dispose of it.
Year--1981
Serial # SCEDT26T5BD005489
5-speed
gray interior
no gas flap
rear power antenna
mileage 57890
no engine problems
has been well maintained
everything works except fuel gauge. sending unit needs replaced
located in Atlanta, Ga.  Always been in Atlanta since new.
asking price 16,500 but may negotiate


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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 15:22:14 -0400
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>
Subject: RE: built-in fire extinguishers

The battery cutoff wont shut of the tire-flies though..  What happens if the fire is caused by Tire-flies?!


> -----Original Message-----
> From: mroboto_at_dml_aol.com [mailto:mroboto_at_dml_aol.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 9:50 AM
> To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [DML] built-in fire extinguishers
> 
> 
<SNIP>
> A better bet may be a smoke/fire sensor to alert you of a 
> possible situation 
> early enough to stop the car and use a manual hand held extinguisher.
> An easily accessible battery cut off switch is a really 
> useful thing if fire 
> is a concern.
<SNIP>



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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 19:24:53 -0000
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Fuel injector cleaning

YES, there is a way to clean and test the fuel injectors. It does 
require a fuel injector tester. You can send the injectors out to one 
of the Delorean venders or maybe a local Volvo dealer has one and can 
do them for you. It shouldn't be very expensive as it only takes 2-3 
minuetes per injector. When done properly you can get a very nice 
pattern and all of the injectors should test within 5% of each other 
so your engine can idle smoothly.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757  



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "tmasterlc" <tmasterlc_at_dml_m...> wrote:
> Is there a good way to clean fuel injectors while out of the car?
> 
> Thanks Ron




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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 19:28:54 -0000
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: strange start problems << I have a similar issue

Pull a spark plug wire and see if you are getting a nice blue spark. 
In the event you aren't two common things to check are the connections 
on the ballast resistors, (those white things on the firewall on the 
left side) and the pick-up coil in the distributer. If you have a nice 
spark then the problem is fuel related but since you can smell fuel I 
think the engine is getting fuel it just isn't "lighting it off".
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin_at_dml_v...> wrote:
> As chronicled in my prior postings, my problem is similar to this. 
The
> engine turns over, coughs and coughs, then sputters out.
> 
> My initial thought is an electrical failure because of the 
abruptness of the
> problem. One day it started fine, drove it about 10 miles, got out 
of the
> car, got back in 5 minutes later and it has never started since. 
Apparently
> this electrical problem is causing the engine to flood because after 
I have
> tried to crank it up, it wreaks of fuel. 
> 
> As noted in Walter's earlier response, I jumped the RPM relay and 
got a good
> loud buzz from the frequency valve. I also checked to make sure the 
RPM
> relay is functioning correctly. I need to check the CPR (which is 
new), but
> I'm unsure when it should have power. What controls the voltage to 
the CPR
> and is it only applied during cranking?
> 
> Joe, I also like your idea about the thermo-time switch being bad. 
It may be
> stuck on providing the extra fuel during cranking, thus giving me 
the funky
> fuel smell.
> 
> Could the cold start valve also be a culprit?




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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 19:32:26 -0000
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: stalling, power loss, and crazy gagues

Check all of the vacuum hoses even the ones that are hard to see all 
the way in front of the motor.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Louie G <louie_at_dml_d...> wrote:
> Hello list,
> I just got in from driving my D for the first time in a week and 
> she is acting up. When I first started it, I noticed it was idling
> extremely low... around 500 RPM. When I went to drive, it had a 
> serious lack of power, and would just sputter when I gave it more than 
1/4 throttle or so. This got better when I got it out on the highway, 
and it ran for a little bit. Unfortunately When I pull up to stop 
signs it stalls every time. The voltage gague is going up and down 
from 10.6-13.0 (I have a dakota digital dash).
> 
>   Just for some background, we replaced several coolent hoses last 
weekend on the car... one which was on the left side of the engine 
towards the transmission (the others were the ones underneath the car 
half under the "belly pan"). We had to replace the voltage regulator 
within the last month or so also. I'm thinking maybe I knocked 
something loose last weekend while we were changing the hoses. Any 
help would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Louie Golden
> #10115 Sanford, NC
> 
> _____________________________________________________________
> It's not too late to get your 1/18 scale Diecast DeLorean model! To 
order, call 800/USA-DMC1 or visit our online store at 
http://www.delorean.com
> 
> _____________________________________________________________
> Promote your group and strengthen ties to your members with 
email_at_dml_y... by Everyone.net  http://www.everyone.net/?btn=tag




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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 13:54:14 -0600
From: Mark Noeltner <mark_at_dml_buffalochips.org>
Subject: Re: Re: DeLorean font

I checked the DMC Daddy page at
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Boulevard/6462/  and didn't see a link
for a font.

I have one of the fonts posted on the download page of the Mid-State
DeLorean Club site at http://www.midstatedmc.com/

I don't know if it's the "right one", but it looks fine for web sites and
the other stuff I've done with it.

Mark Noeltner
Webmaster: Mid-State DeLorean Club
VIN 6820

At 02:01 PM 6/20/02 -0400, Mike Aninger wrote:
>Could you tell us exactly what the address is for "DMC Daddy's" web page is?

>
>> Be careful, There are 2 seperate DeLorean fonts out there that have their
>> variations. Different "t" "L"& "R" characters if I remember correctly.
>"DMC
>> Daddy's" webpage offers the correct one for download I think. Check the
>links
>> section.
>>
>> -Robert
>> vin 6585 "X"




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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 20:01:03 -0000
From: "erikgeerdink" <erikgeerdink_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 3 things appeared

My plugs, wires, cap and rotor were replace 2 years ago.  I've only 
driven 1500 since then.  

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> What is the age and condition of your distributor cap?
> 
> DMC Joe,
> DMC Joe Help Club
> DeLorean Web Mall:  http://www.geocities.com/dmcjoe/home.html


[long quote trimmed by moderator]



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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 20:52:50 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: Re: Minichamps model

http://www.good-wench.com/ has models in the low 1600 range.

-Robert
vin 6585




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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 21:05:34 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: Re: DeLorean font

Go under the link that says "Propaganda". It's hard to see because of 
the text color, but it's there to the left.

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Mark Noeltner <mark_at_dml_b...> wrote:
> I checked the DMC Daddy page at
> http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Boulevard/6462/  and didn't see 
a link
> for a font.
> 
> I have one of the fonts posted on the download page of the Mid-State
> DeLorean Club site at http://www.midstatedmc.com/
> 
> I don't know if it's the "right one", but it looks fine for web 
sites and
> the other stuff I've done with it.
> 
> Mark Noeltner
> Webmaster: Mid-State DeLorean Club
> VIN 6820
> 

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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 22:10:26 -0000
From: "tmpintnl" <tobyp_at_dml_katewwdb.com>
Subject: Re: stalling, power loss, and crazy gagues

Louie - Is it possible that you disconnected or disturbed a ground 
somewhere during the coolant hose change?  There is a major ground 
point around one of the transmission brackets.  If your ground is 
intermittent, this could lead to all manner of bizarre behavior.  

Toby Peterson  VIN 2248
Winged1

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Louie G <louie_at_dml_d...> wrote:

>   Just for some background, we replaced several coolent hoses last 
weekend on the car... one which was on the left side of the engine 
towards the transmission (the others were the ones underneath the car 
half under the "belly pan"). We had to replace the voltage regulator 
within the last month or so also. I'm thinking maybe I knocked 
something loose last weekend while we were changing the hoses. Any 
help would be greatly appreciated!
> 





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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 22:18:38 -0000
From: "tmpintnl" <tobyp_at_dml_katewwdb.com>
Subject: Re: Fuel injector cleaning

There is a franchised company called Dr. Injector, that specializes in 
cleaning and maintenance of fuel injectors.  I got a quote from them 
on my D ... all injectors rebuilt for $25 each.  They can also do a 
simple ultrasonic cleaning in a machine specifically designed for it.  
I don't know if you have a franchise in your location, but a quick 
trip to the yellow pages might yield some options.

Toby Peterson  VIN 2248
Winged1

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "tmasterlc" <tmasterlc_at_dml_m...> wrote:
> Is there a good way to clean fuel injectors while out of the car?
> 
> Thanks Ron




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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 17:43:38 -0500
From: Farrar Hudkins <fhudkins_at_dml_uno.edu>
Subject: Re: Memphis again ...

Martin et al,

Well, I've read the praises of Ken and the other comments regarding the wonderful show there in Memphis, and I've decided thanks to your comments that I will be in Pigeon Forge in 2004 no matter what. :) Hence, I will reserve a room (no I haven't done it yet) and if anybody wants to split it with me, let me know -- e-mail me off the list. (Single women may also apply...)

And Martin: I'm afraid you've experienced the alcohol restrictions of The Bible Belt, USA. The Powers That Be there have decided that a.) no one can purchase alcohol on Sunday; and b.) Sunday lasts from 12am Saturday night to 8am Monday morning. So if like me you plan to drink late, keep the fridge full. :) (I used to live in Charlotte, where you experienced that layover, also part of said Strange Alcohol Regulation Zone.)

Feeling very satisfied with my move to the extremely tolerant city of New Orleans I remain

Sincerely yours,
Farrar Hudkins
'98 Ranger XLT "Laggy"
--
www.wwno.org
504-280-7000




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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 19:34:10 -0400
From: "Mike Aninger" <mike_at_dml_ninja.net>
Subject: Re: Re: built-in fire extinguishers

<SNIP>
> Setting up a HALON system in an engine bay is safe and easily done. I
would strongly advise against doing it for the passenger compartment
however. The warning is correct HALON removes oxygen from the ambiant air
and will suffocate the driver. HALON is also MUCH heavier than air, simply
opening the doors would clear the car in seconds.
<SNIP>

Open the doors?! What happens while driving down the highway?  The windows
won't cut it!  I still just don't see the need for halon in a DeLorean.
This is like shooting down a guard with an ATOM bomb.  The problem you are
creating greatly outweighs the problem you are solving.  You are trading
fire safety for potential driver blackout.  Even if there is absolutely no
passageway to the cockpit from the engine compartment,  fires and
detonations can change that quick, fast, and in a hurry.  Besides, if a fire
or even an explosion did occur, the damage has already been done and putting
your conciseness at risk is ('scuse the pun) senseless.  Co2 or nitrogen
will work just as effectively and still allow you to breath.  Co2 can be
displaced with O2, but halon will simply eat it up.  Halon is great
technology for racing, aircraft, some boats, and the defense department.
Using it in ordinary automobiles is simply ridiculous overkill.  Why do you
think luxury and exotic cars don't even use them?!  Be safe, and keep
driving stainless.

-Mike A.

P.S.- Yes, I always just tell it like it is.





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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 23:47:41 -0000
From: "tmpintnl" <tobyp_at_dml_katewwdb.com>
Subject: Re: 3 things appeared

Erik - I don't know how you are progressing with your problem, but I 
thought that I would share an experience that I had with Winged1.  I 
had done a complete tune-up with all new parts (cap, rotor, wires, 
plugs, and replaced the air filter element with a K&N unit), and had 
about 500 trouble-free miles on the parts.  Suddenly, I developed a 
miss at certain RPM's, and a rough idle.  My gas mileage dropped off 
appreciably.  Naturally, this all started to unravel in the middle of 
a long-distance rally with the PNDC.  Power was way down, which is a 
bad thing for me.  To make a long story a little shorter, one of the 
plug wires had somehow come unplugged from the cap, and was just 
sitting there, making an arcing contact occasionally.  I plugged the 
wire in firmly, and all symptoms ceased.  Of course, this required 
removal of the intake to get to the distributor to refit the wire, but 
I don't think that the intake had anything to do with the problem.

Toby Peterson  VIN 2248
Winged1

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "erikgeerdink" <erikgeerdink_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> My plugs, wires, cap and rotor were replace 2 years ago.  I've only 
> driven 1500 since then.  






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Message: 23
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 00:09:06 -0000
From: "twinenginedmc12" <twinenginedmc12_at_dml_gendreaumicro.com>
Subject: Another page of car show pictures

Hello,

I put some pictures of the car show on my site at 
http://www.gendreaumicro.com/memphis/memphis.htm

Until next time.

Rick




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Message: 24
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 20:28:10 EDT
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: stalling, power loss, and crazy gagues

Louie, When you turn the key to the 2nd position, does the battery light come 
on. If not, replace the bulb. Then up your idle to about 950. If all this 
fails, you may need an alternator. The car runs on the alternator, if you 
still have one of the motorola's or ducy's, thast could be most of your 
problem. Also check the battery with a DMM for 12.66 volts in the morning. If 
it's lower, you have a battery that not fully charged.
John hervey
http://www.specialtauto.com/alternators.shtml



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Message: 25
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 21:48:45 -0400
From: "Mike Substelny" <msubstel_at_dml_lorainccc.edu>
Subject: On Alternators

After 21 years of faithful service, my DeLorean no longer uses a Ducey
alternator.  The Ducey was a faithful servant to the end, never once
giving out, even under the heaviest of loads.

She is gone only because driving around Memphis was too uncomfortable.
With the headlights and AC operating in slow traffic, the Ducey
just couldn't spare the amps for little things like turn signals and
windshield wipers.  Even with the idle set intentionally high, illuminating my
brake lights was sometimes a struggle.

So while we were in Memphis, John Hervey of Special T Auto sold me one of
his big 150 amp alternators.  He even found the time to install it for me
on Saturday morning.

It made quite a difference!

Not only did my new alternator perform well on the long ride back to
Cleveland, this week it has been marvelous in city traffic.  I believe
this surplus of electricity has improved both the comfort and safety of my
DeLorean considerably.

I still have the original Ducey, and I may go back to it someday,
especially if I ever compete in Concours.  After so many years I know that
it is possible to live with the Ducey indefinitely, but the change is
refreshing.

Thank you very much John Hervey.

- Mike Substelny
VIN 01280, 8 wonderful years




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