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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1085
Date: Sunday, June 23, 2002 7:56 AM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Re: strange start problems << I have a similar issue
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

2. R134a orifice tube
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

3. Re: built-in fire extinguishers
From: "robert parker" <roberthparker_at_dml_hotmail.com>

4. Re: Re: Fuel injector cleaning
From: "Chris" <chris_at_dml_internets.freeserve.co.uk>

5. Re: Re: Memphis again ...
From: ROBLAMROCK_at_dml_aol.com

6. Halon
From: Watkins Family <watbmv_at_dml_megalink.net>

7. Re: built in fire extinguishers
From: "twinenginedmc12" <twinenginedmc12_at_dml_gendreaumicro.com>

8. Modified D
From: "Willie Mack" <wmack_at_dml_vt.edu>

9. RE: Re: Fuel injector cleaning
From: "Willie Mack" <wmack_at_dml_vt.edu>

10. Delorean Estate in Pauma Valley, CA
From: "David Cox" <dmcox_at_dml_tfb.com>

11. Re: SDS EM-3 4D EFI PRV DMC?
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com

12. Re: SDS EM-3 4D EFI PRV DMC?
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com

13. DMC Pictures
From: "kynthos10" <kynthos10_at_dml_yahoo.com>

14. Halon
From: "checksix3" <checksix3_at_dml_juno.com>

15. Re: DeLorean Car Show 2004.
From: Murray3307_at_dml_aol.com

16. dashboard??
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com

17. Re: Modified D
From: "tmasterlc" <tmasterlc_at_dml_msn.com>

18. Re: 3 things appeared
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

19. Re: Re: stalling, power loss, and crazy gagues
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

20. Re: Fuel injector cleaning
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

21. Re: DeLorean Car Show 2004.
From: kkoncelik_at_dml_aol.com

22. Halon
From: "checksix3" <checksix3_at_dml_juno.com>

23. Rattling Brake Pads (rear)
From: Jan van de Wouw <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>

24. Play on front wheel
From: Jan van de Wouw <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>

25. Re: Modified D
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>





Message: 1
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 01:04:07 -0400
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Re: strange start problems << I have a similar issue

> Apparently
> this electrical problem is causing the engine to flood because after I
have
> tried to crank it up, it wreaks of fuel.

David T's theory sounds very plausible.  Though if the problem isn't
ignition related then perhaps your cold start valve is stuck on.  It could
be getting power when it should be off, or it could have some trash stuck in
it keeping the valve open.

Walt




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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 01:24:21 -0400
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: R134a orifice tube

I've searched the archives and read plenty about that there exists an
automatically self-adjusting orifice tube that will fit in the DeLorean when
converting to R134a.  (This is for a friend's DeLorean; not mine.)  He has
asked the vendors present at the Memphis show, and none of them sell this
type orifice.

Can anyone give a good enough description of this so that we can source it
locally?  If not, is there ANY place where we can find one?

And while on the subject, can anyone say if the DeLorean OEM orifice is the
same as a typical GM?  I'm not after a "support your vendors" war.  I just
can't see paying $20+ for something that can be had for $3 locally.

Walt




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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 07:48:43 +0000
From: "robert parker" <roberthparker_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: built-in fire extinguishers

Pray tell, Mike, why would Halon be very, very dangerous?  It has been found 
that there is NOTHING more effective in extinguishing fires than Halon.  
Since CO2 is not conducive for healthy respiration, I would immagine said 
extinguisher would be even MORE dangerous for an occupied compartment.  AND 
CO2 is not NEARLY as effective as Halon in killing fires.  People (and cars) 
would burn more and quicker.  Ouch!!  I would do Halon.     Drive Stainless 
(and flameless)    Robert


> From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
> Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
> To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [DML] built-in fire extinguishers
> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 13:46:50 -0400
>
> [MODERATOR NOTE: I hesitate to inject technical criticisms into any 
> subscriber's post, but I've got to caution against installing a HALON system 
> that empties into the passenger compartment.  I believe that this could be 
> very, very dangerous!  -Moderator Mike Substelny]
>
> I'm thinking about installing a built-in fire extinguisher into my DeLorean,
> and I'm wondering if anyone has any experience or advice concerning these.
> The only ones that I know about I found listed in the SummitRacing.com web
> site (as well as their paper catalogue I get snail mail.)
>
> These are a bit pricey ranging from $290 to $463, so I want to be really
> sure I buy the right thing the first time.  It is basically a big 5 or 10
> pound bottle of Halon 1211 that could probably be mounted inside of one of
> the engine compartment pontoons.  There are two nozzles -- one for the
> engine compartment and one for the passenger compartment.  It is activated
> by a manual pull or push activator.  It would be nice to have something that
> could operate automatically, but I figure that most car fires happen while
> they are being driven.  Is the steel or aluminum tubing to be preferred?
> Pull-type or push-type activator?  A different brand?  Or none of the above?
>
> Walt



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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 12:10:06 +0100
From: "Chris" <chris_at_dml_internets.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Re: Fuel injector cleaning

You can buy new injectors for around $30 from the vendors tho and for the
money you save I would have thought it would be better to get new ones.

Just my thoughts

Just got back from home after Memphis, my thanks to Ken for a great event
and it was great to meet so many of you.

Chris Spratt
Vin 16327 UK




----- Original Message -----
From: tmpintnl <tobyp_at_dml_katewwdb.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 11:18 PM
Subject: [DML] Re: Fuel injector cleaning


> There is a franchised company called Dr. Injector, that specializes in
> cleaning and maintenance of fuel injectors.  I got a quote from them
> on my D ... all injectors rebuilt for $25 each.  They can also do a
> simple ultrasonic cleaning in a machine specifically designed for it.
> I don't know if you have a franchise in your location, but a quick
> trip to the yellow pages might yield some options.
>
> Toby Peterson  VIN 2248
> Winged1
>
>



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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 07:53:50 EDT
From: ROBLAMROCK_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: Memphis again ...

In a message dated 22/06/02 02:36:21 GMT Daylight Time, fhudkins_at_dml_uno.edu 
writes:


> The Powers That Be there have decided that a.) no one can purchase alcohol 
> on Sunday; and b.) Sunday lasts from 12am Saturday night to 8am Monday 
> morning. 

Farrar,
I guess the clocks down Beale Street must have stopped on Saturday night, 
because James Koncelik (Ken's brother) and I were able to buy Jack Daniels 
and other assorted alcoholic beverages well into the wee small hours of 
Sunday morning.   The music and atmosphere of Beale Street at 2am on Sunday 
morning was another highlight of Memphis for me!
Robert Lamrock
Belfast, Ireland


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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 08:27:48 -0400
From: Watkins Family <watbmv_at_dml_megalink.net>
Subject: Halon

I'm a  member of an Emergency Response Team at work. During fire
training last night We were told that Halon has been banned for its
depleting of the ozone layer.  Our trainer said that systems that use
Halon can still be in use, but once used cannot be refilled.  There is a
new product called FE-36 Clean Guard.  We use it for the Semiconductor
industry.   I got to use it on a large vat filled with kerosene that was
blazing!   So if your thinking about Halon, forget it.


Tom
#5732




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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 14:31:46 -0000
From: "twinenginedmc12" <twinenginedmc12_at_dml_gendreaumicro.com>
Subject: Re: built in fire extinguishers

Everybody's got an opinion...

It pleases me to hear about people considering installing fire 
extinguishers in their cars, be they halon, CO2, nitrogen, foam, 
powder or whatever.  I personally think a fixed extinguisher aimed at 
the engine is a very good idea, though I've opted for a conventional 
manual fire extinguisher mounted in the passenger compartment.  I 
agree with the people who advise that installing an extinguisher of 
the inert gas type (halon, nitrogen, carbon dioxide)in the passenger 
compartment is very dangerous because of the near-certainty of 
asphyxiation during discharge.  

I've installed a fire-extinguisher in my car.  It is one of the foam 
types, which are extremely messy, but very effective.  Use of it 
would be messy, but I can live with that.

I'm sure that any sensibly installed fire extinguisher can help 
mitigate some risk. If we're lucky, we'll never collect enough data 
to assess which method is better.

Rick Gendreau  11472






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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 10:59:13 -0400
From: "Willie Mack" <wmack_at_dml_vt.edu>
Subject: Modified D



I was wondering where you guys find some of these modifications for your
delorean.  I really liked the black side panels with the intakes on them,
the ones that go under the door.  And on the yellow delorean the intake
scoops.  Where do you find this stuff?

Thanks
   Willie
   Vin 5043




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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 10:59:16 -0400
From: "Willie Mack" <wmack_at_dml_vt.edu>
Subject: RE: Re: Fuel injector cleaning

How easy is it to take your fuel injectors of yourself, or is that something
a mechanic should do? And how do you take them off?

Thanks
   Willie
   Vin 5043

-----Original Message-----
> From: jtrealtywebspannet [mailto:jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net]
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 3:25 PM
> To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DML] Re: Fuel injector cleaning
>
>
> YES, there is a way to clean and test the fuel injectors. It does
> require a fuel injector tester. You can send the injectors out to one
> of the Delorean venders or maybe a local Volvo dealer has one and can
> do them for you. It shouldn't be very expensive as it only takes 2-3
> minuetes per injector. When done properly you can get a very nice
> pattern and all of the injectors should test within 5% of each other
> so your engine can idle smoothly.
> David Teitelbaum
> vin 10757



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "tmasterlc" <tmasterlc_at_dml_m...> wrote:
>> Is there a good way to clean fuel injectors while out of the car?
>>
>> Thanks Ron



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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 09:01:10 -0700
From: "David Cox" <dmcox_at_dml_tfb.com>
Subject: Delorean Estate in Pauma Valley, CA

Can someone point me to any available information about the place Delorean
used to own in Pauma Valley, CA (near Escondido, if that helps...)?  I know
that he sold off most of the land to help keep the company afloat for a
while, and that the last bit of land as well as the house, went to the
lawyers to pay legal fees, but does anyone have anything more?  I am
especially interested in finding the address.  I'd like to see if I could
contact the current owners and arrange a visit for any interested locals.
If you want to reply privately, I can be reached at dmcox "at" tfb.com
(dmcox_at_dml_tfb.com)

Thanks,
Dave
vin 16367




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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 13:59:30 EDT
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: Re: SDS EM-3 4D EFI PRV DMC?

In a message dated 6/20/02 9:20:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
dave.stragand_at_dml_ketchum.com writes:

<<  Has anyone else seen the SDS EFI Delorean of Jim Witherspoon from Hudson, 
Ohio?
   http://www.sdsefi.com/features/nov01del.htm
   Interesting setup, but I'm wondering what all he may have gained from this 
conversion.  Personally, I'm still looking for a Prowler V6...
   >>
It' was really an SDS EM-3 6D (6 cyl coil/tach triggered) Now its an EM-3 6E 
(6 cyl/hall sensor triggered) .
Without the CIS Air Meter flap, tach/coil triggered, and 19 lb std domestic 
bosch injectors, the car dyno'd at approx 108 rear wheel. 109 without the 
stock air cleaner assy. Both runs were with cat, stock fuel pump, and stock 
exhaust. It would have gone higher but the stock ign coil could only make it 
to about 5000 rpm. Cured that with an Accell super stock. Since then it has 
gotten a new custom intake manifold and a different muffler. No gain. At this 
point it appears to be exhaust bound. 
Jim Witherspoon 6147



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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 14:04:59 EDT
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: Re: SDS EM-3 4D EFI PRV DMC?

In a message dated 6/21/02 2:48:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
genghis_at_dml_sctelcom.net writes:

<< I have a new fuel manifold set with EFI injectors for the PRV6.  Don't know
 much about it.  Would part with it for $50 + shipping.
  >>
The Eagle Premier has the injector bungs in the intake. Not sure it would 
bolt up.
Jim 6147



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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 18:25:30 -0000
From: "kynthos10" <kynthos10_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: DMC Pictures

Hello All!!

My pictures are FINALLY up on the site, and only a day later than I 
promised.  http://www.geocities.com/musical_penguin10/Delorean.html 
It was so good to meet such a wonderful group of DeLorean owners.  
Email me if you have any questions!!  =)

Thanks!
Cindy




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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 18:32:20 -0000
From: "checksix3" <checksix3_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Halon

I won't argue with folks about the recent discussion of Halon
but many of the "facts" being offered are just plain wrong.
Nor will I agrue the merits of using a system in a car (thats a 
personal decision) but at least people should know the facts. 

Halon is used extensively in aircraft in occupied spaces and I'm 
quite familiar with its properties. It is of low toxcicity and *does 
not* displace the O2 in the ambient atmosphere. It only breaks the 
chemical chain required for combustion.

Its is so effective (especially the 1211/1301 blend which is prefered 
because it makes its own pressure and will not lose its propellant as 
in N2 powered systems), that the concetration needed for suppression 
doesn't affect the level of O2 needed for respiration.

A dry chemical agent would be the worst thing to use and CO2 will
cause aphxyiation *far* quicker than Halon, due to the increased 
concentration needed. 

Thats the trouble with boards like this, too many "experts".
Thats a shame when the info is so readily available. I suggest you
read: http://www.h3r.com/halon/ 

Its where I buy my systems and these people know the facts.






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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 16:49:10 EDT
From: Murray3307_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: DeLorean Car Show 2004.

Which hotel in Pigeon Forge is the 2004 convention located?

[Moderator Note:  I'm approving this post because I assume others have t6he same question.  According to www.deloreancarshow.com  the 2004 hotel is called "Smoky Shadows" in Pigeon Forge Tennessee.  It gives this phone number for reservations: 1-800-251-4444   - moderator Mike Substelny]




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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 23:25:46 EDT
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: dashboard??

HI,
    I have my interior out right as I have removed the evaporator box.  The 
dashboard is pretty easy to get at right now and it has a crack so now is the 
time to replace/or recover it.  My dashboard is slightly warped so it don't 
want to recover it that way.  If anyone has a dash in good condition or one 
with cracks that isn't warped please drop me an e-mail.

Thanks
Dave



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Message: 17
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 04:07:19 -0000
From: "tmasterlc" <tmasterlc_at_dml_msn.com>
Subject: Re: Modified D

The ground effects...front, sides and back are made by Custom 
Fiberglass, New Haven CT (203)-776-1341

The intake scoops...adapted from a 67-68 Shelby Mustang (like Elanor 
in the movie "Gone in 60 Seconds")  They took a lot of cutting, 
trimming, grinding, sanding, fitting to get them to work and they are 
functional.

Ron
The Yellow D


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Willie Mack" <wmack_at_dml_v...> wrote:
> 
> 
> I was wondering where you guys find some of these modifications for 
your
> delorean.  I really liked the black side panels with the intakes on 
them,
> the ones that go under the door.  And on the yellow delorean the 
intake
> scoops.  Where do you find this stuff?
> 
> Thanks
>    Willie
>    Vin 5043




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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 19:01:10 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: 3 things appeared

Toby,

Thanks for sharing your loose plug wire experience, and although this could
be the cause of Erik's problem, I believe he has indicated that his problem
is water related.

BTW: It is not necessary to remove the intake manifold to remove or replace
the distributor ignition wires.

DMC Joe
DeLorean Web Mall:  http://www.geocities.com/dmcjoe/home.html

DeLorean Website Directory www.dmc.tv

----- Original Message -----
From: "tmpintnl" <tobyp_at_dml_katewwdb.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] 3 things appeared


> Erik - I don't know how you are progressing with your problem, but I
> thought that I would share an experience that I had with Winged1.  I
> had done a complete tune-up with all new parts (cap, rotor, wires,
> plugs, and replaced the air filter element with a K&N unit), and had
> about 500 trouble-free miles on the parts.  Suddenly, I developed a
> miss at certain RPM's, and a rough idle.  My gas mileage dropped off
> appreciably.  Naturally, this all started to unravel in the middle of
> a long-distance rally with the PNDC.  Power was way down, which is a
> bad thing for me.  To make a long story a little shorter, one of the
> plug wires had somehow come unplugged from the cap, and was just
> sitting there, making an arcing contact occasionally.  I plugged the
> wire in firmly, and all symptoms ceased.  Of course, this required
> removal of the intake to get to the distributor to refit the wire, but
> I don't think that the intake had anything to do with the problem.
>
> Toby Peterson  VIN 2248
> Winged1
>
> --- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "erikgeerdink" <erikgeerdink_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> > My plugs, wires, cap and rotor were replace 2 years ago.  I've only
> > driven 1500 since then.





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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 19:11:50 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Re: stalling, power loss, and crazy gagues

John you are correct when suggesting to check the battery warning lamp but
when you consider the labor intensive work in getting to the bulb I believe
it would be wiser to check the bulbs continuity at the alternator or the
bulkhead connector panel.

DMC Joe Help Club

DeLorean Web Mall:  http://www.geocities.com/dmcjoe/home.html
DeLorean Website Directory www.dmc.tv




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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 21:34:13 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Fuel injector cleaning

Here is a tip all DeLorean owners can use when dealing with non-DeLorean
parts and
service operations. When they ask what kind or car you have tell them it is
a 1983 Volvo 260 GLE / V-6 gasoline engine. When they look up information in
their database they will be directed to the B-28 V-6 with K-Jetronic fuel
injection which is about 90% similar to the DeLorean.

In your case the guy will feel more comfortable cleaning injectors for your
average Volvo rather than a very expensive, exotic, limited production you
know what.

DMC Joe

DMC Joe Help Club
DeLorean Web Mall:  http://www.geocities.com/dmcjoe/home.html

DeLorean Website Directory www.dmc.tv

----- Original Message -----
From: <Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] Fuel injector cleaning


> HI,
>     I took my injectors to a Diesel injection shop.  They cleaned and bead
> blasted all 6 injectors for $50.00.  You may want to look into that.  Just
> don't tell them that they are for a DeLorean or they will run away....
>
> Dave






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Message: 21
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 00:33:27 EDT
From: kkoncelik_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: DeLorean Car Show 2004.

In a message dated 6/22/2002 11:51:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
Murray3307_at_dml_aol.com writes:


> Which hotel in Pigeon Forge is the 2004 convention located?
> 
> [Moderator Note:  I'm approving this post because I assume others have t6he 
> same question.  According to www.deloreancarshow.com  the 2004 hotel is 
> called "Smoky Shadows" in Pigeon Forge Tennessee.  It gives this phone 
> number for reservations: 1-800-251-4444   - moderator Mike Substelny]
> 
This is correct ask for the Delorean car show if the person does not appear 
to know what to do ask for a supervisor.  They are training their staff for 
the show now and not everyone there is up to date yet.

The phone numbers on the Smoky (spelled S M O K Y ) Shadow web page can also 
be used and the 800 number given out earlier is also good but as I said not 
all the Hotel people are up to date on our event since we just signed the 
contract last Wedensday.  The number Mike mentioned above is your best bet.

Thanks

Ken


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Message: 22
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 09:56:46 -0000
From: "checksix3" <checksix3_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Halon

(Sigh)...wrong again. Halon has been banned for the reasons you state
but it falls under the same restrictions as other CFCs affected by 
the Montreal Convention. Like R12, no new stuff can be made but there 
is plenty of recylced halon available.

The bottles can be refilled and are being sold every day. In fact, I 
just had one refilled. There are many substitutes for halon, not just 
FE 36. Read the website I posted, I deal with them all the time.

Btw, as a former maintenance engineer and ERT member in wafer fabs 
for 17 years, I'll withold my opinion of the typical semicon ERT. 
I quit several in disgust. I hope your team is better trained than 
the ones I dealt with but your trainer needs to get his facts 
straight. 


>>I'm a member of an Emergency Response Team at work. During fire
training last night We were told that Halon has been banned for its
depleting of the ozone layer. Our trainer said that systems that use
Halon can still be in use, but once used cannot be refilled. There is 
a new product called FE-36 Clean Guard. We use it for the 
Semiconductor industry. I got to use it on a large vat filled with 
kerosene that was blazing! So if your thinking about Halon, forget 
it<<.





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Message: 23
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:08:08 +0200
From: Jan van de Wouw <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>
Subject: Rattling Brake Pads (rear)

Hello all,

Yesterday I discovered a slight rattle at my left rear wheel
when rolling. Since it disappeared when I touched the brakes
ever so slightly (not slowing the car) I gathered it was the
brake pads rattling.
When checking for this I discovered my guess to be right, and
found one of my wheelstuds to be stripped, so I had to replace
that one with one I fortunately still had lying around on my
broken hub carrier.

But here's what surprised me; there were no anti rattle shims
on the calipers on either side... Ths front DOES have them.
I can't seem to find them in the partsmanual either.
Even more surprising is that the rattle isn't the pads rattling
against the cilinders or rotor, but on the retaining pins.

Can anyone tell me what I can try to solve this?
I think leaving it this way will cause the rattle to become
even worse over time, but replacing the pads while still good
is kind of a waste in my opinion. Maybe replacing the pins?
Anyone know a cross-over for this so I don't have to order
just two pins from overseas? If I had to costs would be tripled
or more by the time I'd have them...

Thanks in advance,

JAN van de Wouw
Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

#05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000

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Message: 24
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 12:18:43 +0200
From: Jan van de Wouw <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>
Subject: Play on front wheel

Hello again,

When driving at +30mph speeds my car develops a rather annoying
tremble in the steering wheel. It turned out to be a series of things
causing this, but solving all of those has only lessened the tremble.

It turned out I had a loose lower balljoint; since the split pin in
the castle nut was too thin it had forced itself loose.
This in turn totally wore out my wheelbearing which I replaced a week
ago. I checked EVERYTHING  on the LF suspension to be torqued to the
right specs, had my wheels balanced, the car aligned, had the front
wheels balanced on the car, but I still have play.

Whan checking yesterday I found I have play only in the up-down
direction, front to rear is solid as a house. The pay seems to be
between the hub and the knuckle, since the brakedisc also moves in
relation to the dust/water shield. The rest of the suspension does
not move at all.

I'm at a loss on what this could be; the bearing is new, has less
than 100 miles on it now, all fasteners are tight, the fitting of
the bearing in the hub and on the axle are tight, the axle is secure
in the knuckle, even my speedo works!

What else could this be? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks again,

JAN van de Wouw
Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

#05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000

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Message: 25
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 00:37:00 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Modified D

You can order the ground effect items through the DMC Joe Help Club or
directly from our supplier, PJ Grady.

DMC Joe Help Club
DeLorean Web Mall:  http://www.geocities.com/dmcjoe/home.html

DeLorean Website Directory www.dmc.tv

----- Original Message -----
From: "Willie Mack" <wmack_at_dml_vt.edu>
To: "DMC" <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 10:59 AM
Subject: [DML] Modified D


>
>
> I was wondering where you guys find some of these modifications for your
> delorean.  I really liked the black side panels with the intakes on them,
> the ones that go under the door.  And on the yellow delorean the intake
> scoops.  Where do you find this stuff?
>
> Thanks
>    Willie
>    Vin 5043





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