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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1104
Date: Sunday, July 07, 2002 5:20 PM

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There are 13 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Re: cargo space
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>

2. Re: Erratic idle speed - update
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

3. fascia repair/paint
From: Richard Johnstone <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

4. Re: fascia repair/paint
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

5. why does 5 th gear pop out ?
From: "fluxmcfly" <bfreyguy_at_dml_aol.com>

6. RE: why does 5 th gear pop out ?
From: "Darkstar" <darkstarmedia_at_dml_attbi.com>

7. Re: Re: Erratic idle speed - update
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com

8. Re: fascia repair/paint
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

9. RE: Transmission
From: "Rob van der Veer" <rob.van.der.veer_at_dml_delorean-europe.com>

10. Re: why does 5 th gear pop out ?
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

11. Re: fascia repair/paint
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

12. Re: Re: Erratic idle speed - update
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

13. Re: Sunstar DeLorean models
From: Jack The Stripper <motti_at_dml_optonline.net>





Message: 1
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 12:29:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: cargo space

My wife and I have taken several two week trips in our
D.  Initially, we thought we would never make it.  But
as the years have gone by and the trips have
accumulated, we have gotten better.  

We turned the Memphis trip into a two week vacation. 
As we left the house I said, "We must have forgotten
seomthing, we still have some unused space."  Well, if
we did forget anything, it must not have been
important.  We never noticed it.

Dick Ryan


--- therealdmcvegas <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com> wrote:
> It depends upon how creative you are! :p
> 
> Gallon water & milk jugs will usually go in the
> footwells, and on the 
> rear parcel shelf. Things like bread & eggs, or even
> a small cooler 
> go on the shelf as well. Every thing else will
> usually fit into the 
> trunk as well with no problems. So grocery shopping
> is no problem. 
> Even with someone in the passenger seat.
> 
> As far as luggage goes, I don't know about that one.
> It would really 
> depend upon what kind of luggage you travel with. A
> duffle bag, or 
> perhaps a suitcase or two should fit fine with no
> problem in the 
> trunk. Somthing like those wide cases with the
> wheels on the bottom 
> though, then you would need to put that in the
> passenger seat, or on 
> a luggage rack on the back. Everytime I've been to
> the airport, I've 
> used another vehicle, so I've never really packed
> for a trip in the 
> DeLorean per se.
> 
> -Robert
> vin 6585 "X"
> 
> 
> 
> --- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "joshp1986" <joshp1986_at_dml_y...>
> wrote:
> >   Hi, 
> >    I was wondering how much stuff can you put in a
> DeLorean? Like 
> > grocery bags and suitcases. 
> >                    Thanks,
> >                        Porterhouse
> 
> 
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 22:00:48 +0100
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Erratic idle speed - update

Well we've been having another look at the car in question today.
Definitely got all the spark plugs in the right holes.
Checked for any dislodged hoses/electrical connections, found the capacitor going to the
coil was disconnected, but this didn't seem to affect things anyway.
Only unaccounted for double wire is a black wire and orange wire in a rectangular
connector at the back of engine bay. Lost or surplus? (this is an auto tranny)
One other strange point. The fuel adjustment screw has been blocked off.  Is this normal
on twin turbo setups - anyone? Apparently this needed to be drilled out on the
fresh-from-the-factory engine (this engine has 34000 miles on it!)
Idle speed switch is ok. In fact, the only time the engine will run is with it pressed!

Just to clarify a bit more what the engine is doing.  The engine seems to idle quite
nicely, although it doesn't hunt properly.  When any throttle is applied it coughs
splutters and attempts to stall.  Also when throttle is applied the airflow sensor
oscillates rapidly, and it misfires badly.  With the engine off, the metering head
plunger comes back with quite a spring when you push it down, unlike Martin's one which
bounces nicely against the rubber endstop as the plunger drops down slowly.

Control Pressure regulator has been reconditioned.  Could it be the metering head at
fault??
Any other ideas?

Thanks

Richard
#2727






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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 22:01:00 +0100
From: Richard Johnstone <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: fascia repair/paint

Hi All

Just thought I'd share a couple of interesting items I've found

1) Fascia paint. With no claims that it's a perfect match or anything,
the Halfords shade "Rover Gunmetal" is a very nice dark metallic grey
for the fascias. I think it's pretty close to the later darker shade (I
have an early car). This is my first attempt and the results are pretty
good (certainly 200% better than before!!). I've gone through two cans
of Halfords grey plastic primer and three cans of paint in doing both
fascias. I'm not impressed with the lacquer. I agree with James R G that
it just accelerates cracking and doesn't really improve the look anyway.

2) I needed to fix things on both my front fascia and my front grille
and Loctite 406 is BRILLIANT. This should be available on either side of
the pond. It's listed as an "all purpose plastic and rubber adhesive".

All the best

Martin
#1458




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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 22:06:50 +0100
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: Re: fascia repair/paint

That was from me, BTW. Netscape forgot to change the name :-)

Martin

Richard Johnstone wrote: *(no he didn't)

> Hi All
>
> Just thought I'd share a couple of interesting items I've found

<snip>




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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2002 22:19:39 -0000
From: "fluxmcfly" <bfreyguy_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: why does 5 th gear pop out ?

Does anybody ever have any problem with there gears popping out while 
driving? I noticed this problem when I let off the gas 5 th will pop 
out of gear.It will only do this when you very quickly let off the
 gas, then you will have to put the clutch in and shift back in 
gear.I noticed that if you drive the same speed and don't let off the 
gas it does not pop out of gear?Also one other thing that might be 
the problem is that the shifter bounces when you hit the gas or let 
off of the gas. If anybody has any ideas or know what could be my 
problem please let me know   Thank you  e mail me directly 
bfreyguy_at_dml_aol.com

Brian




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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:50:06 -0700
From: "Darkstar" <darkstarmedia_at_dml_attbi.com>
Subject: RE: why does 5 th gear pop out ?

you need to replace the fork rubbing blocks or the forks as a whole.  this
is a kind of general info but try checking your linkage first.  again this
isn't delorean specific but a general info that goes for a lot of manual
trannys.

Darkstar

-----Original Message-----
From: fluxmcfly [mailto:bfreyguy_at_dml_aol.com]
Sent: July 6, 2002 3:20 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] why does 5 th gear pop out ?


Does anybody ever have any problem with there gears popping out while
driving? I noticed this problem when I let off the gas 5 th will pop
out of gear.It will only do this when you very quickly let off the
 gas, then you will have to put the clutch in and shift back in
gear.I noticed that if you drive the same speed and don't let off the
gas it does not pop out of gear?Also one other thing that might be
the problem is that the shifter bounces when you hit the gas or let
off of the gas. If anybody has any ideas or know what could be my
problem please let me know   Thank you  e mail me directly
bfreyguy_at_dml_aol.com

Brian



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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 22:29:38 EDT
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: Erratic idle speed - update

In a message dated 7/6/02 7:31:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk writes:

<< Only unaccounted for double wire is a black wire and orange wire in a 
rectangular
 connector at the back of engine bay. Lost or surplus? (this is an auto 
tranny) >>
 
  Martin,

     If that is located on the drivers side back of the engine compartment, 
then thats for the diagnostic plug.  Its not used for anything.

Later,
Nick Pitello
1852
15914
<A HREF="Http://members.aol.com/njp548">Http://members.aol.com/njp548</A>



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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2002 19:18:29 -0400
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: fascia repair/paint

Martin,

You said,
> I'm not impressed with the lacquer.

Are you referring to the Halfords primer or are you talking about a
different paint?

Walt




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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:39:40 +0200
From: "Rob van der Veer" <rob.van.der.veer_at_dml_delorean-europe.com>
Subject: RE: Transmission

Hi,

It had a similar problem with my clutch. We needed to bleed the system,
because somehow
are got trapped inside the system. After that, it worked flawlessly.

By the way: The workshop manual says you should raise the car to get to the
clutch slave
cylinder. For me, the opposite was try. I had to reach over the engine and
find the
bleeding screw there, hidden behind the fuel lines and the distributor.

Rob.

-----Original Message-----
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com [mailto:BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com]
Sent: dinsdag 2 juli 2002 0:27
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Transmission


Hello
My transmission, after a little bit of driving, has been giving me trouble.
After taking it out, and driving it through the gears, reverse, first, and
sometimes second start to either grind or resist movement into the gear.
Reverse always grinds after being driven, and first and sometimes second
does
the resisting. We replaced the clutch slave cylinder last year, and it has
been full with fluid ever since. For the first 15 to 20 minutes the DMC
shifts fine. Whats going on?

Thanks a lot!
John
4275
(By the by, I went with the BFGoodrich Radial T/A tires with the raised
white
lettering to replace the NCTs. I really like the white lettering on the
DMC.)


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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 14:03:05 EDT
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: why does 5 th gear pop out ?

In a message dated 7/6/02 6:33:40 PM Central Daylight Time, bfreyguy_at_dml_aol.com 
writes:


> 
> Does anybody ever have any problem with there gears popping out while 
> driving? I noticed this problem when I let off the gas 5 th will pop 
> out of gear.It will only do this when you very quickly let off the
> gas, then you will have to put the clutch in and shift back in 
> gear.I noticed that if you drive the same speed and don't let off the 
> gas it does not pop out of gear?Also one other thing that might be 
> the problem is that the shifter bounces when you hit the gas or let 
> off of the gas. If anybody has any ideas or know what could be my 
> problem please let me know   Thank you  e mail me directly 
> bfreyguy_at_dml_aol.com
> 
> Brian

Brian,

the shifter will tend to randomly pop out of gear on you if you have a 
damaged roll pin in the transmission.  a $0.75 part and $700 to drop the 
tranny and reinstall!

Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102


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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2002 19:21:56 +0100
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: Re: fascia repair/paint

I'm talking about the clear lacquer you spray over the finished paintwork to give it that
glossy look. To my inexperienced hands it just provided more opportunity to balls the job
up! :-)

The primer seems to have done its job superbly. There are no cracks as a result of
manoevering the fascias back on.

Martin
#1458 (now back together outside).

Walter Coe wrote:

> Are you referring to the Halfords primer or are you talking about a
> different paint?
>
> Walt




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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2002 15:08:24 EDT
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: Erratic idle speed - update

Richard, Your describing symptons of a warm up regulator not working or loose 
wiring connections.
John Hervey
http://www.specialtauto.com/



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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2002 15:53:26 -0700
From: Jack The Stripper <motti_at_dml_optonline.net>
Subject: Re: Sunstar DeLorean models

Someone gave me a great URL for a site that sold the Sunstar models, and 
had the BTTF one for half of what most places are charging for it.  Most 
places are charging $50, but this place had it for $25.  Unfortunately I 
didn't purchase it right away, and I lost the URL, hopefully someone can 
give it to me, if anyone knows what I'm talking about.
Thanks.
--Joe




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