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Date: Friday, July 12, 2002 5:58 AM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. RE: Melted wires
From: "Stian Birkeland" <delorean_at_dml_online.no>

2. Re: Fuse 2 short
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

3. RE: Re: Door Adjustments
From: "Murray Fisher" <murrayf_at_dml_charter.net>

4. speeding tickets? was Re: bad jokes we get... :)
From: "dmcjohn" <john.dore_at_dml_fidelity.com>

5. Question #4 (NKOB #5939)
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>

6. Re: Melted fuses and charred wires
From: Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>

7. Re: Bad Jokes we get...or give
From: Marty Lick <mlick27_at_dml_yahoo.com>

8. Re: (misrepresented) DeLoreans on eBay
From: Jan van de Wouw <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>

9. Braided fuel lines*PICS*
From: klaus.steiner_at_dml_t-online.de

10. Re: DeLoreans on eBay
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>

11. Remote-buying DeLoreans
From: "daveswingle2" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

12. Re: speeding tickets?
From: "Hank Eskin" <heskin_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>

13. Re: Braided fuel lines*PICS*
From: Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>

14. Re: Braided fuel lines*PICS*
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

15. Re: Distributor cap and wires
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

16. Fuel Injectors cleaning
From: "johnsdmc12" <dherv10_at_dml_aol.com>

17. Re: melted wires
From: "shainbrannan" <shain_at_dml_elecmods.com>

18. Fuel pickup line
From: "johnsdmc12" <dherv10_at_dml_aol.com>

19. Re: Fuel pickup line
From: "basfe25" <drrub46_at_dml_hotmail.com>

20. verifying a/c charge amount
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

21. Re: Re: melted wires
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

22. Re: Braided fuel lines*PICS*
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>

23. Powered Seats ?
From: "jeremys_im" <jeremysmail_at_dml_softhome.net>

24. Passenger Door
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com

25. Starting problems
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:03:49 +0200
From: "Stian Birkeland" <delorean_at_dml_online.no>
Subject: RE: Melted wires

While I still feel sorry for what happened to #10663, I couldn't help myself thinking "this could have been avoided if the relays had been ordered from a DMC vendor"... Complete relay kits are available.

I'm not saying this to act as a "wise guy", I just think its important that other people reflect over this. Worst case scenario could have been a burnt-out DeLorean and/or personal injuries... Our DeLoreans are very few...lets not waste any!

Best wishes
Stian Birkeland
Norway

VIN # 06759



Message: 23
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 22:47:57 -0400
From: "Cecil Longwisch" <dmc1982_at_dml_msn.com>
Subject: Re: melted wires


Did your friend replace any of the relays? I had this happen to me when a 
local Bosch distributor sold me the wrong replacement relay and it took the 
positive to the ground in my relay compartment. Marty Maier and myself spent 
a late night redoing it. This stuff always seems to happen right before 
trips or shows.

Cecil Longwisch
#10663





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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 14:12:22 -0000
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Fuse 2 short

A place to start would be to pull ALL of the parking light bulbs. One 
bulb that was made bad or installed incorrectly can cause this. A less 
likely possibility is a pinched wire somewhere but it can happen. If 
you can't find it easily then go to the Auto parts store and buy a 
"short circuit detector" which is a circuit breaker and a 
galvanometer. A bad way to try to fix this is to use a larger fuse to 
"burn out" the short. This could cause a melt-down of the wiring and 
melt switches,and fuseblock. Do make sure you are using the correct 
size fuse, in fact while you are in the fuse area check and make sure 
all of the fuses are the correct size for the position installed.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "vin4258" <vin4258_at_dml_d...> wrote:
> I need to fix the left side park lights that blow the fuse when the 
> light switch is pressed.  The thing is I don't want to tear the car 
> down trying to find a burnt wire or other cause of the short.  Has 
> anyone else had this problem?  Is there any spot I should look in 
> particular?  The car only has 5300 miles on it.
> Thanks,
> Cam




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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 07:33:14 -0700
From: "Murray Fisher" <murrayf_at_dml_charter.net>
Subject: RE: Re: Door Adjustments

Dick,
	I have the same problem with my new struts.....it is pretty exciting to see
my wife go UP along with the door when she triggers it tho, and after
meeting your light weight wife at Memphis I know the problem you have.
However I do not have the automated openers you have......sure wish you or
someone would drop by and install them for me.
	All kidding aside tho.  Mine now I am afraid, are just TOO strong......I
have not seen them take so much  pull to close them and think I should
loosen the torsion bar a notch.   I keep thinking winter is coming and maybe
they will be okay then!
	Great meeting you finally and connecting names to faces.  However I sure
missed a lot of them too that I KNOW were there.
	Murray Fisher



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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:33:48 -0000
From: "dmcjohn" <john.dore_at_dml_fidelity.com>
Subject: speeding tickets? was Re: bad jokes we get... :)

Hi again guys,
Something I've been wondering about - when you get pulled over for 
speeding, do you generally get a ticket, or is the cop more 
interested in talking about/checking out the DeLorean, and then 
leaves you off with a warning? I've been pulled over for speeding a 
few times  in MASS and Rhode Island, since I got the D, and also for 
not displaying a front licence plate. Never got a ticket... Every 
time, the cop says something like "oh I remember when these came out, 
what year is it...etc". Then I get the warning " well, nice car, but 
keep it down in future, I'll give you a warning this time only!" 
Once, I was driving back from my friend Declan Kellys house (he has a 
D too), doing at least 85 (in a 65mph zone) or so. A car pulls up 
beside me, so I look over, and its the cops! They just drove beside 
me for a few seconds (I thought there's no point in slowing down at 
this stage unless they pull me over), then they waved and took off 
ahead of me! Very strange...

Any other owners had this experience?
John Dore, Boston, MA. #3810.

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Christopher M. Hawes" <chris_at_dml_h...> wrote:
> I went one night for a one mile drive down to my office to pick 
something
> up.  It was around 11pm and as I pulled out on to the main road a 
set of
> headlights shot up rather close behind me.  I looked up to see a 
Police
> Astra following with interest.  I am thinking... you are going to 
pull me
> over aren't you.... for the next minute or so I kept checking and 
sure
> enough the blue haze hit the mirror.  I pulled over to find that 
the cop
> reckoned I was swerving, noticed the lack of alcohol on my breath 
asked some
> questions about how many were built? Is that aluminium?  Do they 
still make
> them??
> 
> I was on my way again soon enough.
> 
> Has been fun, looking forward to Super Car Sunday it can only get 
better!!!
> 
> Regards
> 
> Chris Hawes





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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:29:21 -0000
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
Subject: Question #4 (NKOB #5939)

Initial parts order (with factory literature) may arrive *after*
vehicle's final leg of journey home, so I ask now:

Question #4: Does factory Craig radio have an inline fuse? Mine is
dead in water. Do not see radio specific fuse in block. All other dash
electricals function OK.

Question #4.5: If I decide to trouble shoot radio, what is console
disassembly procedure -- specifically: how many attachment points &
where  located, what faceplates etc must be detached from console
before removal, any hidden pitfalls?
Re: Question #3, rusty studs may prevent passenger side exhaust leak
repair in VA. All the more reason to fix radio (if possible) -- don't
want to spend 7 hours on highway listening to a doodlebug.

FWIW: My fine new ride was an eBay transaction -- COD. Examined & test
drove car before exchanging check, but was at mercy of seller for 
history, etc. Jury still out on wisdom of purchase. Is honeymoon when
problems confined to radio and fuel accumulator. Ask me again when
idle speed goes crazy, suspension breaks, etc (yes, I've been reading
your posts ...)

Bill Robertson
Trouble shooting a DMC two states away
#5939





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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 11:46:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>
Subject: Re: Melted fuses and charred wires

Yep, that fuse always ends up melting. You're going to have to get to the
wires under the fuse box and run them into a pigtail (or inline) fuse
holder.

-Christian

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, JONAS19992000 wrote:

> OK, I got a D 3 weeks ago and it's awesome..  Runs and drives well,
> but low beams do not work among other things(high beams work).  I
> changed out all fuses except top middle (it is melted in place and I
> can't get out....yet).  Anyone have any ideas as to what my 1st step
> should be?  Like what I should replace or not to begin with.  There
> seems to be other wires in the area charred as well.. I am a newbie so
> any help is greatly appreciated.  You guys seem to stick together
> pretty well.. It's nice to see..  Post and/or reply to
> JONAS19992000_at_dml_yahoo.com////thanks
>
>
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:01:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Marty Lick <mlick27_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Bad Jokes we get...or give

Long time lurker here, de-lurking for a sec.

Not everyone hates the routine of bad jokes that come
with the car.  Some drivers encourage it and embrace
the BttF connection to varying degrees.  For those
that want to give a little chuckle to their friends
and make people look twice..or three times, there's a
new book that came out this spring called "How to
Build a Time Machine" by Paul Davies.  Viking Press;
ISBN: 0670030635.  Pick up a copy and leave it on your
dash, passenger seat, center console or anywhere else
in plain sight.  The book itself talks about how time
travel is theoretically possible and talks more about
the film "Contact", than it does BttF.

For those that hate the jokes and the BttF image, just
don't buy the book.

-- Marty   (not McFly)


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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:06:14 +0200
From: Jan van de Wouw <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>
Subject: Re: (misrepresented) DeLoreans on eBay

Dear VIN4258 (what's wrong with names?),

On 11-07-2002, you wrote:

> I doubt the engine picture is the same as the person claiming a scam
> is going on.  Is it so strange that almost every DeLorean engine
> compartment looks the same?
[snip]
> Don't cry to ebay when you see a picture that MIGHT look like yours.

Did you actually LOOK at the pictures?
I did and went even a little further; I scaled them to matching sizes
and then did an overlay in Photoshop; they ARE the same.

What do you think the odds are on getteing EXACTLY the same angle,
lighting and reflections on two separate photo's of different engines?
Close to non-existing I think.

But as someone allready pointed out; the seller doesn't have to be a
scammer. In this case he states that inspections are welcome, so
if you want to buy and have doubts; GO SEE THE CAR!

IMHO buying ANYTHING site-unseen is stupid and asking to be ripped off.

Just my 2 Euro cents.

JAN van de Wouw
Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

#05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000

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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:21:22 +0200
From: klaus.steiner_at_dml_t-online.de
Subject: Braided fuel lines*PICS*


In Feb. 2001 I changed all my rubber fuel lines to ss braided lines with
blue anodized fittings:

6 fuel lines to injectors
1 line from fuel filter to the distributor
1 fuel return line
2 lines to/from the CPR
1 to cold start valve
1 to frequency valve

They were ordered in Germany and custom made by Goodridge in GB. All
fittings are standard parts and available in blue or red aluminium or
steel(maybe ss?). Price was $500.

Pictures on http://www.steinerklaus.de/dmc/sslines/

Klaus Steiner
#05980
Germany


> Message: 1
>    Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:06:24 -0400
>    From: Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin_at_dml_vantagep.com>
> Subject: Re: Braided fuel lines... *UPDATE*




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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:44:20 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: Re: DeLoreans on eBay

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "vin4258" <vin4258_at_dml_d...> wrote:
> I doubt the engine picture is the same as the person claiming a scam 
> is going on.  Is it so strange that almost every DeLorean engine 
> compartment looks the same?  I bought my DeLorean on ebay a month ago 
> and the auction was revised three times by the seller.  That doesn't 
> mean there's a scam going on or they're trying to cover something 
> up.  As would be expected anytime you plan on spending so much on 
> something, go there and look at it before you put any money down.  
> That is obvious.  If something WAS misrepresented, THEN take action.  
> Don't cry to ebay when you see a picture that MIGHT look like yours.

You bring up several interesting points in a topic that I admit I have strong 
feelings about. If someone were to take pictures of my car, and add them to 
like a tribute website, or a fansite, or something like that, I probably wouldn't 
mind. That of course is dependant upon in what light the DeLorean is 
represented in. But if pictures of my car were used to try and sell another 
person's vehicle, then I would not be happy in the least bit. I take pride in both 
my car, and the amount of work that has gone into it. So for someone else to 
simply come along and use my pictures to represent their car, that's like 
cheating of my test. But to use my work to actually profit by the sale of a car,  
or any other means, that's theft of my intellectual property. Nor is it something 
that I would ever give permission for.

Personal feelings aside, it is not fair to a buyer to falsely represent a car with 
photos that are not of that car. When buying a classic car (or even a simple 
used car for that matter), you take many things into account. Specificly your 
budget. Crudely put, if the price of the car + the price of parts needed to repair 
it exceed your budget, then you are unable to afford that car. Pictures of things 
such as the engine compartment can greatly help you asert part of the money 
nessisary to repair the car, if not give you an idea about how th vehicle has 
been cared for. I've run across cars that run well, but have had every single 
fuel hose on the engine cracked and rotten, along with the vapor hoses. 
These items alone will cost you a few bucks to replace. Now, on the flip side 
of things, you said what does it matter what picture is used since they all look 
alike? Indeed, what does it matter. If they have a car that is in good condition, 
and looks just like everyother car, then why bother to insert a photo at all? If 
we all know what the car looks like, then what is the point? Obviously, pictures 
are included to help boost the value of the car, if not simply encourage buyers 
(or in this case bidders) to purcahse the car. Not matter if you're on eBay, or 
Autotrader, you'll always be drawn first to the ads with pictures on them.

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"




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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:15:31 -0000
From: "daveswingle2" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: Remote-buying DeLoreans

One thing to keep in mind with all this talk about "fake" photos 
being used in Ebay ads - Rich Weissensel in my area has probably 
bought more sight-unseen cars than anyone I know. He may care to 
elaborate, but I notice that one of his tactics as a purchaser is to 
ask the seller to provide many photos shot from specific angles and 
distances. On a given car he may do this several times over a couple 
of days. Legitimate sellers will not mind the intrusion. This serves 
a couple of purposes. In addition being able to see certain common 
features of the car that accurately portray condition, it also 
assures, at least to an extent, that the seller really has the car in 
his posession. Sure - someone could have a pristine car around and 
take photos, but that's an effort that most of these scammers won't 
go to. They would rather decline and move on to a better "prospect". 
If the seller refuses to cooperate - move on. 

Another good tactic was requested on the note posted here a short 
while ago - in almost anywhere in the US you can find a DML-er 
willing to check out and/or photograph a car for you. I've done this 
for people - it's kind of fun and does help out the community. 

Dave Swingle




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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 18:25:35 -0400
From: "Hank Eskin" <heskin_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>
Subject: Re: speeding tickets?


John failed to mention that he's very obviously Irish, as are most of the
cops in Boston.  I don't think I'd have the same luck.  ;)

Although I did hear that Dan(rc30). got pulled over on the way back from
Memphis and blamed a faulty angle drive (yeah, right!) and got out of the
ticket for it.

-Hank




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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:30:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>
Subject: Re: Braided fuel lines*PICS*

My dear lord... I see you even have the overheat protector done up with
the braided lines. Very nice. Do you have braided coolent hoses all the
way up to the radiator? Where did you get them?

-Christian

On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 klaus.steiner_at_dml_t-online.de wrote:

>
> In Feb. 2001 I changed all my rubber fuel lines to ss braided lines with
> blue anodized fittings:
>
> 6 fuel lines to injectors
> 1 line from fuel filter to the distributor
> 1 fuel return line
> 2 lines to/from the CPR
> 1 to cold start valve
> 1 to frequency valve
>
> They were ordered in Germany and custom made by Goodridge in GB. All
> fittings are standard parts and available in blue or red aluminium or
> steel(maybe ss?). Price was $500.
>
> Pictures on http://www.steinerklaus.de/dmc/sslines/
>
> Klaus Steiner
> #05980
> Germany
>
>
> > Message: 1
> >    Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 09:06:24 -0400
> >    From: Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin_at_dml_vantagep.com>
> > Subject: Re: Braided fuel lines... *UPDATE*
>
>
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:05:37 -0400
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Braided fuel lines*PICS*

Klaus,

That really looks impressive.  One important question: Were you able to find
a good replacement for the hose that is made onto the frequency valve?

Did the price you mention include all the SS coverings & blue collars?

I think it would look really nice to polish & blue anodize certain parts of
the engine.  That would look cool.... I mean MORE cool.

Walt




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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 21:09:03 EDT
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Distributor cap and wires

Jim, The best way to change out the wires with the least amount of work is to 
lift up the fuel injection air flow assembly about an inch and go from there.
John Hervey
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 01:42:25 -0000
From: "johnsdmc12" <dherv10_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Fuel Injectors cleaning

Group, I just thought I would let everyone know that I have an 
Ultrasonic cleaner set up to clean fuel injectors,check valves and 
other small devices that could use that kind of thing. You can see it 
on the web site, front page for now. It's a 2 qt. so it can hold 
quite a bit. Call or email if you need to run something through it.
John hervey
www.specialTauto.com

 




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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 01:57:05 -0000
From: "shainbrannan" <shain_at_dml_elecmods.com>
Subject: Re: melted wires

Hi Marvin,

Some others replied to this question already, but i have a diffrent 
solution.  First of all your friend should replace the realys as a 
must.  I belive the problem is that they use a ground in a sort of 
pig tail, it goes from ground, to the next relay, to the next relay 
etc.  What i did was replace the wires (socket clips are availbe at 
auto parts store), but i ran the wire to the screw holes on the 
metal plate that holds all the electrics.  I used eye hold type 
conenctors and ss screws to make it look good.  You then run the 
inital ground wire there as well.  The idea is each relay has it's 
own grounding point.  Haven't had a problem yet, and grady says it's 
a good idea.

- Shain
#10140


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Marvin" <marv_at_dml_p...> wrote:
> A friend with no computer has asked me to request help. All the 
the black
> wires in his relay area - 1st row behind the passenger seat - have 
melted.
> That is the ground wiring, I believe. What may be the cause? Where 
does that
> bundle of wires that contains the black wires, go ?
> 
> Marvin Stein
> #17707
> email: marv_at_dml_p...




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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 01:59:08 -0000
From: "johnsdmc12" <dherv10_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Fuel pickup line

Group, I have been working and thinking about a new fuel pick up line 
for some time now. After looking at all the possibilities and 
weighing all the problems.  What I have put on the web site is it. 
No more pick up line. Instead of the long hose route and collapsing 
hose problems due to heat and pressure,plus the expense of the long 
hose,  I have fabricated another baffel box and come straight off the 
pump with my filter screen. By only using 1 1/2" of the expensive 
tubing that will withstand the gas and all the chemicals, it's now 
ready. It will take less than an hour to put it in. It will come with 
instructions and I will be posting more pictures on the web site. 
I hope this will solve a lot of fuel tank pick up problems for a lot 
of you.. It's on the front page of the web site.
It's in my car and working .
John hervey
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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 03:24:27 -0000
From: "basfe25" <drrub46_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fuel pickup line

Sounds like a good idea but I have a question. Isn't the original 
baffle in a position in the tank where it is at the lowest point? 
Meaning that the tank is sloped towards it so that all the gas is 
concentrated to that area? If it is designed this way then the new 
baffle you came up with WILL work but you won't have that 
fuel "reserve" when your tank goes low....we'll have to re-learn how 
far we can go on a tank of gas. Like I said...good Idea so this 
isn't a bash or anything.

Steve

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "johnsdmc12" <dherv10_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> Group, I have been working and thinking about a new fuel pick up 
line 
> for some time now. After looking at all the possibilities and 
> weighing all the problems.  What I have put on the web site is it. 
> No more pick up line. Instead of the long hose route and 
collapsing 
> hose problems due to heat and pressure,plus the expense of the 
long 
> hose,  I have fabricated another baffel box and come straight off 
the 
> pump with my filter screen. By only using 1 1/2" of the expensive 
> tubing that will withstand the gas and all the chemicals, it's now 
> ready. It will take less than an hour to put it in. It will come 
with 
> instructions and I will be posting more pictures on the web site. 
> I hope this will solve a lot of fuel tank pick up problems for a 
lot 
> of you.. It's on the front page of the web site.
> It's in my car and working .
> John hervey
> www.specialTauto.com




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Message: 20
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:53:38 -0400
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: verifying a/c charge amount

Is there a way to determine if a system has the optimum amount of
refrigerant in it without evacuating the system and recharging with a
measured amount?  There should be a way to top off a system without
draining/refilling.  Yes, I understand that a system should not be topped
off if it is leaking, yadda, yadda. 

Walt    Tampa, FL







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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 01:05:04 EDT
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: melted wires

Shain, That's a good idea, but it all circles back to one ground wire. No 
matter how you get there, it's one ground back. If you really want to help 
the situation, then fuse the ground wire. That way if you have a short that 
one fuse in the box doesn't catch it,  the ground fuse might.
John Hervey
http://www.specialtauto.com/ 

<< Some others replied to this question already, but i have a diffrent 
 solution.  First of all your friend should replace the realys as a 
 must.  I belive the problem is that they use a ground in a sort of 
 pig tail, it goes from ground, to the next relay, to the next relay 
 etc.  What i did was replace the wires (socket clips are availbe at 
 auto parts store), but i ran the wire to the screw holes on the 
 metal plate that holds all the electrics.  I used eye hold type 
 conenctors and ss screws to make it look good.  You then run the 
 inital ground wire there as well.  The idea is each relay has it's 
 own grounding point.  Haven't had a problem yet, and grady says it's 
 a good idea.
  >>



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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 05:23:06 -0000
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
Subject: Re: Braided fuel lines*PICS*

My fuel lines are formed steel (like brake lines). Is this a retrofit
by previous owner or did some leave factory as such?

Bill Robertson
#5939

>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., klaus.steiner_at_dml_t... wrote:
> 
> In Feb. 2001 I changed all my rubber fuel lines to ss braided lines 





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Message: 23
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 06:11:45 -0000
From: "jeremys_im" <jeremysmail_at_dml_softhome.net>
Subject: Powered Seats ?

Anyone ever pulled the factory seats and replaced them with 
some form of multi-way powered seat? I don't recall ever seeing 
such is any classifieds nor could I find something in the 
archives?

What would be involved:
* Power would need to be routed of course.
* Factory fuse box acceptable?
* Factory alternater acceptable?
* how difficult would it be to pull current seat rails and replace?

What else?


Thanks,

Jeremy






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Message: 24
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 02:43:55 EDT
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Passenger Door

Hello
It seems that sometimes the passenger side door does not want to open the 
front latch. This happens both inside and outside. It unlatches the rear 
latch, but is unsuccessful in unlatching the front. This happens 
occationally, and often when the handle is not pulled swiftly to open the 
door. 
Any ideas? I have the larger piece of door leather off right now, and I'm 
looking at it. My dad and I had replaced the power lock solenoid, but I 
wasn't there for a lot of the time because of work. 

Thanks a lot!
John
4275


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Message: 25
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 02:47:38 EDT
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Starting problems

The DMC had its first starting problems in 2 years today. I drove around for 
a while, and parked; shutting it off for a little while. When I came back, I 
turned the key, and it turned over, and when it was running, I let go of the 
key, and it sputtered and died. The DMC would not start after this. The 
starter would go, but the engine wouldn't start. After a while, though, it 
did fire. This also happened later that day, after I had it off for around an 
hour. 
Thanks for any ideas.

John
4275


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