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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1138
Date: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:12 AM

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There are 21 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. New Memphis Photos
From: "Steven Lawrence" <vipertv_at_dml_cableone.net>

2. Re: Carbon Fiber Brake Pads
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com

3. Re: THE engine
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com

4. Delorean parts on ebay
From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com>

5. Re: Re: Whereabouts of John Z. DeLorean [was: curveball to the flames]
From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com>

6. Re: THE engine
From: deloreanss_at_dml_aol.com

7. Fire damaged panels
From: "erikgeerdink" <erikgeerdink_at_dml_yahoo.com>

8. Re: Brakes source
From: "janvdwouw" <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>

9. Re: Used NCT's available
From: "bob.hlavacek" <bob.hlavacek_at_dml_snet.net>

10. Limos, Mods etc. - [ was Quitting and stuff ]
From: Shannon Yocom <ssdelorean_at_dml_yahoo.com>

11. RE: Need help adjusting torsion bar (North Carolina)
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_att.net>

12. Oil, Start, Warm Up? [ was No unmoderated ]
From: Shannon Yocom <ssdelorean_at_dml_yahoo.com>

13. Re: TO ARMOUR ALL OR NOT?
From: dqauto_at_dml_aol.com

14. Delorean Tech-Work Day
From: wingd2_at_dml_aol.com

15. Goodyear tires
From: Michael T Twigger <marktwigger_at_dml_juno.com>

16. RE: THE engine
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>

17. RE: tough transmission again
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>

18. RE: Delorean parts on ebay
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>

19. Re: Wet D on the Inside
From: Heydudetoo_at_dml_aol.com

20. Re: Brake Calipers, Tie Rod ends, Electrical Parts Source
From: "deloreand" <ed_at_dml_uding.myweb.nl>

21. Chock one up for the heat
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 14:41:45 -0500
From: "Steven Lawrence" <vipertv_at_dml_cableone.net>
Subject: New Memphis Photos

Hello all,

     After a long hiatus, my DeLorean site is back up.  It is now located
at:

http://dmc.jvlnet.com

I recently added photos of the Memphis trip.  I have all of the cars that I
could get from the show catalogued.  Check it out, and email  me at vipertv
(at) cableone.net and let me know what you think.

See ya,
Steven Lawrence
vipertv_at_dml_cableone.net
DMC VIN # - Not yet!





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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 23:39:48 EDT
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Carbon Fiber Brake Pads

I'm not quite sure on the pads, but I know that the carbon fiber discs are 
just starting to be used in road cars, pretty much just in Porsches (GT2), 
but are only really used in racing cars. This is because the discs need to be 
heated to a certain temperature before they are fully operable. I just don't 
know if this also applies to pads. It states "Street Performance Requires No 
Warm Up." I haven't really heard of them...

John 
4275


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 23:47:11 EDT
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: THE engine

Don't forget about the Porsche ZF 6-speed. I heard from someone that the Back 
to the Future DeLorean at Ken's Show has one? Is that true? Oh man it would 
be a nice addition to the Northstar.

Oh man.
John
4275


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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 00:05:21 -0400
From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Delorean parts on ebay

Hey there,

I've finished my conversion, and have a ton of stock delorean parts that
I don't need anymore.  Some parts are old, others are brand new! 
Everything from air filter to muffler is up there, check it out, maybe
there is something you need...

www.ebaymotors.com

search for "Delorean"


Jim 
1537

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 23:12:55 -0400
From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Whereabouts of John Z. DeLorean [was: curveball to the flames]

To find more information about JZD's whereabouts, you can search for the
word "Delorean" in the archives.  You will find it.  Keep looking.  

Jim
1537


On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:12:10 -0500 Farrar Hudkins <fhudkins_at_dml_uno.edu>
writes:
> Mark,
> 
> I looked up as much information on the Internet as I could about a 
> month ago and got only "Bedminster, NJ" and "age: 77." I've read 
> quotes from e-mails from JZD on this list so somebody knows his 
> e-mail address at least, but I forget who it is, and even so that's 
> more than likely privileged information. I'm not saying that 
> somebody's being stingy; I'm sure Mr DeLorean doesn't want his 
> e-mail address on webpages all across the Internet, and I'm sure we 
> can all appreciate that.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Regards,
> Farrar Hudkins
> New Orleans, LA
> --
> www.wwno.org
> 504-280-7000
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
> 
> 


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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 01:14:30 EDT
From: deloreanss_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: THE engine

I just hope you are increadibly mechanically inclined. That Northstar swap 
gave American Customs a heck of a time. The fitting work that goes into 
putting a horizontal engine into a rear engine setup was a nightmare. Also, 
you need to consider that you will almost have to completely redo every 
engine peripheral in the car (electrics, fuel system, exhaust, etc). I think 
it is a cool idea, but it is going to cost you almost as much as what you 
could spend to buy a Countach. If you don't like the way the interior looks, 
nor the mechanicals, nor the performance, why not just spring for the Lambo? 
You would of course still have cool doors? 

John Weaver
ETDOC
RED DMC #10527


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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:50:54 -0000
From: "erikgeerdink" <erikgeerdink_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Fire damaged panels

Hi,
can the stains from a fire be taken out of stainless steel panels?  I 
know that if the doors get burned then they warp on top, but what 
about fenders?  Can panels with very light fire damage be fixed with 
some elbo grease?

Thanks for the info.

Erik




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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:14:36 -0000
From: "janvdwouw" <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>
Subject: Re: Brakes source

> Here's another new source....
> http://www.dmc-service.nl 
> Holland...
> 
> Cat test pipes
[snip]
>     Vented rotor and soft compound pad sets
[snip]
> Shocks (gasdempers schokbrekers)  etc...
> As you can probably tell the site is not in english

People that have been to Memphis may have seen
the brake set Ed Uding (it's his company) sells.
I know of two satisfied people that have these installed 
and have had him do some work on my car too,
my A/C is next in line...
I also have the Cat-replacement installed;
bolts right up, no problems what so ever.

At the moment in The Netherlands, Ed is just about
THE person to turn to for D-specific work,
I highly recommend him...

Jan van de Wouw
Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

#05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000

--------------------------------
PS I have no relationship with Ed, besides being a
happy customer and fellow DeLorean owner...





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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:20:17 -0400
From: "bob.hlavacek" <bob.hlavacek_at_dml_snet.net>
Subject: Re: Used NCT's available

I'm interested in one 15" tire with some tread.  All I can offer is $20 +
shipping.  Any interest?

Bob
10961


----- Original Message -----
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:09 PM
Subject: [DML] Used NCT's available


> Never realized there was such a demand for used NCT's.
>
> Am driving my fine new ride south (North Carolina) tomorrow. Is
> equipped with "Eagle NCT's". Don't know if these are the NCT's
> everyone wants, but if they are they will be available by the weekend
> (am going to swap for the Eagle GT's already waiting at home). Car
> has 114,000 so they obviously aren't original. Beaucoups of thread.
> Some spider cracks in the sidewalls, but certainly nothing that would
> remotely reveal fabric. No annurisms (sp?). Had flat spots but those
> rounded out nicely w/ 450 miles already driven.
>
> Anybody want 'em? (I might eagerly trade for a torsion bar
> adjustment...)
>
> Bill Robertson
> #5939



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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 05:34:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Shannon Yocom <ssdelorean_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Limos, Mods etc. - [ was Quitting and stuff ]

If it is shear speculation I can see your point but I do hope the Mod's would
allow "Limo" and other related DeLorean modification posts. If not I guess we
will have to wait every 2 years to see what new 'grey matter' creations have
emerged at Ken's "DeLorean Car Show" (plug;-) instead of learning about cars like
the twin engine D (sorry I forget your name), the creations from Rich W (D-Rex,
the Roadster, Hover etc.) and any other talented, creative, well funded
individual.

Shannon Y
VIN#  <10 months to go!

-------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 00:25:51 -0400
From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Quitting and stuff

<snip>
That way the moderators here can
run things as usual, and if people are interested in talking/reading
about the 'gray' matter, like bttf, delorean limos, rockets, or boats,
they can post and read on the other list where this kind of gray DMC talk
is accepted.  If you are not interested in this other stuff, you don't
have to subscribe!  wee!

Jim 
1537 rocket powered coffin

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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:43:33 -0500
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: RE: Need help adjusting torsion bar (North Carolina)

It would be nice if jrc2905 would sign his name and give his phone number at
the end of his post on adjusting torsion bars.

If you follow the procedure he listed below, the risk is very high for
damage and personal injury.  Contact one of the service providers for
advice.  Some of the clubs sponsor door adjustment parties periodically.

This link will help you to determine if your torsion bar actually needs to
be adjusted.
http://www.dmcnews.com/Techsection/dooradjust1.html

Be careful.

ps: My intent is not to insult or start a flame war.

Scott Mueller
002981



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> From: jrc2905_at_dml_aol.com [mailto:jrc2905_at_dml_aol.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 9:24 PM
> To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [DML] Need help adjusting torsion bar (North Carolina)
>
>
> I adjust the bars by myself. The trick is to remove the rear louver panel so
> you can use a breaker bar and hex socket with no extension bar on the
> socket.
> I cannot imagine using the extension bar the way they do it and get so much
> flex in the bar. That scares me.I use a broom handle to support the door,
> and my shoulder to support the breaker bar with a steel pipe extension on it. My
> doors used to sag but now open wide even on cold days.





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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 06:05:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Shannon Yocom <ssdelorean_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Oil, Start, Warm Up? [ was No unmoderated ]

I would be willing to change my mind if the info given was based on experience,
fact or/and scientific proof and not speculation, because I want what is best for
my future D and current cars. And since I am not a mechanic or an avid "wrencher"
I am open to others' expertise.

I agree that the "nastiness" needs to be halted and in this case it was, but
unless I missed it, the topic never really came to fruition. I would like to hear
more on the " when to start your car, <snip> how long it should sit or not sit "
topic.


If you don't want to post, please e-mail me your thoughts privately.

Shannon Y
VIN#  <10 Months to go!

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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 08:22:54 -0400
From: Watkins Family <watbmv_at_dml_megalink.net>
Subject: No unmoderated

<snip>

Let's also take the oil thread.....trying to convince someone what kind of oil is
better, when to start your car, how to start our car, how long it should sit or
not sit is a NO WIN situation. Everyone has their own preference based on their
experience and nothing is going to change their mind....nothing.   It will only
get nasty and then name calling starts.  It's the moderators job to end this type
of thing.

<snip>

Tom
#005732

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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:17:05 EDT
From: dqauto_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: TO ARMOUR ALL OR NOT?

Hi!

We have a huge discussion going on at the www.z31.com website for Nissan 
Zcars and I was hoping that some of you might have some input or advice.

We have been tossing around the question about TO ARMOUR ALL OR NOT???

Alot of our dashes are a type of plastic over a thin layer of foam and they 
always crack!

Some of us use these:
Baby Oil
Vaseline
Saddlesoap
Mineral Oil
Suntan Lotion
ArmourAll

Any ideas???  I was hoping that other car collectors would have an idea that 
has proven
good over the test of time.

Thanks,
Anna Noe
88 &89 Isuzu Impulse Turbos
92 Subaru SVX
85, 87,87,89 300zx's
88 Conquest TSI
My Very Own D someday!

Don't just dream the dream, live the dream, and drive Stainless! 
DeLorean DMC-12...



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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:21:13 EDT
From: wingd2_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Delorean Tech-Work Day

  Just a quick note. The MidState Delorean Club has scheduled a Delorean work 
day for this coming Saturday, Aug 3rd. We will be meeting at a members house 
in Edwardsville, ILL (Metro St Louis Area). If you have some work you'd like 
to do to your car or just want to hang out with some other Delorean owners 
for the day, you are more then welcome to attend. More detailed information 
and directions are available at the club web site - "www.midstatedmc.com" 
under "events".

    Thanks,  Marty


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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:43:39 -0400
From: Michael T Twigger <marktwigger_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Goodyear tires

Does anyone know the correct tire pressure of the 
Goodyear Eagle GT II tires?

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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:59:42 -0400
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>
Subject: RE: THE engine

I am sure others have told you this, but most of what you would like to do has been done already.

Before you just dive in to such a project, fully investigate all of your options for each modification on a individual basis and talk to people who have done it (or tried to do it) before you make any major investments.  Most of them can be found on this list.

Be warned, you can expect to spend a lot of money.  Probably a lot more than if you just purchased yourself a more modern car to suit your needs (heck, you could buy another car and still keep the stock DeLorean!)  With that said, Good luck!!  Please keep us up to date on your project, maybe we will see you at the 2006 show!

Marc

-----Original Message-----
From: vegascop1 [mailto:vegascop1_at_dml_yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 1:45 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] THE engine


I am writing because I would like to receive some feedback. 
I just purchased an 81 D and I love the car. After reading almost all 
the tech's, specs, and everything else I came to the conclusion that 
Delorean car can NOT stay in the past! I am going to push my D into 
the future! How you ask? I am sick and tired of those little things 
<SNIP>



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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:04:33 -0400
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>
Subject: RE: tough transmission again

WD40 is not a lubricant.. it is a "Water Displacer"  (that's where the WD comes from).  I believe this stuff was designed to clean guns (and other metal) for storage.

I don't know if it will fix your particular problem, but if you want to lubricate something use a lubricant. CRC Silicone spray is what I use, it works great on the power antenna too!

-----Original Message-----
From: Willie Mack [mailto:wmack_at_dml_vt.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 6:47 PM
To: DMC
Subject: [DML] tough transmission again

After my last post I took some peoples advice and sprayed wd40 on the
linkage.  It solved my problem for about 2 days, but the problem is back
again.  It is very difficult to move the shift lever left to right or right
to left.  Do i need to put some all purpose grease on it or what?

Thanks
  Willie



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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:17:14 -0400
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>
Subject: RE: Delorean parts on ebay

OK, let see some photos of the conversion!!

Can you give us details on what you did?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Strickland [mailto:ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 12:05 AM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Delorean parts on ebay


Hey there,

I've finished my conversion, and have a ton of stock delorean parts that
<SNIP>



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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 12:56:53 EDT
From: Heydudetoo_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Wet D on the Inside

It is coming over the barrier in the well in front of the windshield.
Clean out the leaves and trash, you will find a drain in the front edge of 
this well at or close to the bottom.  When it is plugged the water builds up 
from the front glass and runs in over the barrier at the top, this is the 
fresh air intake so it needs to stay open. But the drain hole needs to be 
clean.



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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 18:30:29 -0000
From: "deloreand" <ed_at_dml_uding.myweb.nl>
Subject: Re: Brake Calipers, Tie Rod ends, Electrical Parts Source

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., jwit6_at_dml_c... wrote:
> Here's another new source....www.dmc-service.nl 
> Holland...
> 
>There also is an English page. You can open this page by selecting 
the Union Jack.

If you use other calapers in the front than the originals, you have a 
problem because they lock up first. The only way to fix this problem 
is to install a brake pressure switch who seperates the front and 
rear brakes.
If you use other calapers on the original front rotors they will be 
overheated. 
If you want more brake power whitout less heat with the original 
rotors, we sell soft compound brake pads. These are especially 
designed for this cause: more brake power, less heat.

If you have any questions, email me privately (ed_at_dml_uding.myweb.nl)

www.dmc-service.nl




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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 01:06:38 EDT
From: BondAtomic_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Chock one up for the heat

To make a long story short, I was driving in the city when the DMC heats up. 
I park, and the coolant comes out the overflow. I wait, clean it up a bit, 
and fill it with water. I then drive home (going a good speed to keep the car 
cool.) and it was in operable temperatures. 
My question? Well, the "fan fail" light is either on/off. First-the fan fail 
light-that means one of the two fans isn't working, right? Or does it mean 
they both aren't working? OR, does it mean one isn't working, so the other 
one shuts off? 
Then, if this "fan fail" light is on, is this "fanzilla" system a failsafe 
device to prevent any overheating problems? I read in the tech section from 
DMCJoe that the cooling system is almost equivelent of having "two 
radiators." Then he goes on to describe air bleeding and such. So, is 
Fanzilla the way to go? If both fans are operating and slower speeds, will 
the heat stay down?

By the by, just wanted to thank Walt for the major help in my troubles with 
the passenger door, especially with those two "evil bolts of death."

Thank you all very much.
John
4275


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