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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1168
Date: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 8:27 PM

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There are 13 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. RE: electric delorean webpage
From: Johnstone Richard <richard.johnstone_at_dml_homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk>

2. Cooper GT Tires
From: "beatlesra1" <beatlesra1_at_dml_aol.com>

3. Hank Breer: Plenum Drain Tube #101957
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>

4. Windshield wiper motor...???
From: "rostfritt2000" <korpnatt_at_dml_hotmail.com>

5. master cylinder
From: "Darkstar" <darkstarmedia_at_dml_attbi.com>

6. Re: Hank Breer: Plenum Drain Tube #101957
From: "ksgrimsr" <knut.s.grimsrud_at_dml_intel.com>

7. RE: Hank Breer: Plenum Drain Tube #101957
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_att.net>

8. Universal Studious promotional use of DMC (was BTTF DVD RELEASE)
From: Lance Haslewood <lanceh_at_dml_zeta.org.au>

9. Re: Plenum Drain Tube #101957
From: <hbreer_at_dml_ix.netcom.com>

10. Re: Breaking it
From: "Christopher M. Hawes" <chris_at_dml_hawes74.freeserve.co.uk>

11. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City DeLorean giveaway
From: "Payne" <bpayne_at_dml_macnet.com>

12. Door alignment was Stuck door
From: wmack <wmack_at_dml_vt.edu>

13. New England get together
From: "dmcjohn" <john.dore_at_dml_fidelity.com>





Message: 1
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 11:49:17 +0100
From: Johnstone Richard <richard.johnstone_at_dml_homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk>
Subject: RE: electric delorean webpage

Well from what I can see everything you can see in the pictures on their web
page is off the shelf electric car stuff.

the motor and speed controller he is using come as a kit ...

http://www.evparts.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=&product_id=2164

see here for better picture of the conroller

http://www.canev.com/KitsComp/Components/Controller.html


I'm pretty certain the smaller blue box in the engine bay is the dc-dc
converter below
http://www.evparts.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=&product_id=1300


The controller is quoted as capable of providing 100kW.
The motor is quoted as being used in 200 mph + race cars.

There are no other unidentified boxes of tricks in the pictures.
It looks like they have simply bought an off the shelf kit and done some
simple machining to make it fit the Delorean.
I believe that they have made an electric Delorean and achieved the speeds
quoted.
From all the info, and particularly how their web page looked a few weeks
ago I reckon they are just trying to persuade someone to inject lots of cash
into their beer drinking fund.

It will be interesting to see what they manage on September 7th when they
hire Nashville speedway for the day. And I wonder if someone will be keeping
a close eye on their stops to change drivers only?

Rich
#2727




-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Brandys [mailto:BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com]
Sent: 17 August 2002 15:26
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DML] electric delorean webpage


Sounds like a violation of the second law of thermodynamics to me.
BOB

erikgeerdink wrote:

>http://www.tilleyfoundation.com/
>
>does anyone else think this is a load of crap?  I mean, 127mph on an 
>electric engine that doesn't need to be recharged at all and just 
>runs off of batteries?  
>
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 01:11:18 -0000
From: "beatlesra1" <beatlesra1_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Cooper GT Tires

I know this has been beat to death but I need new tires now! I'm 
lucky my Delorean is in one piece, I developed a leak during the 
Dream Cruise last weekend which I discovered showing Shannon my new 
tire gauge, well I took the tire off today and found one hellava gash 
on the inside of the back tire very lucky it didn't blow [Since i 
drive my D the way it was intended... FAST] WHOAA!!!

Anyway I'd like to buy Cooper GT's so please if anyone is using them 
e-mail me and give me your opinion also can the back tires be bought 
in blackwalls or are they only available in White Raised Letters?

Thanks for your help!

Chuck Darling
Vin#6215




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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 03:41:58 -0000
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
Subject: Hank Breer: Plenum Drain Tube #101957

Does it even appear in the parts manual? Can't find in the online
versions.

This could save me engineering time & trouble: What is ~diameter of
tube? How is seal around trough opening? Is it designed to be
removable to clean detrius?

Bill Robertson
#5939 

>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., <hbreer_at_dml_i...> wrote:
> I wonder how many cars do not have a PLENUM DRAIN TUBE, P/N 101957
installed. 
> Under $10.00 from your favorite DeLorean supplier.
> 
> Hank Breer
> 1141
> 
> On Tue, 20 Aug 2002 content22207 <brobertson_at_dml_c...> wrote:
> 
> > In a fit of brilliance, DMC placed the drain
> > for the windshield trough directly above the
> > fuel pump. Don't need to be a rocket scientist
> > to see where all the water comes from.




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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 11:14:42 -0000
From: "rostfritt2000" <korpnatt_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Windshield wiper motor...???

Howdi! Does anyone know the make of wiper motor? Heard it could be 
saab. Are having some trouble with them. Grateful for help!

//Viktor, Sweden




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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 04:55:41 -0700
From: "Darkstar" <darkstarmedia_at_dml_attbi.com>
Subject: master cylinder

Hi,
does anyone know the girling part number for the brake master cylinder??
and where i can find a rebuild kit.  I had someone look on the side of the
one on my D but he could not see the number cast into it.

Darkstar




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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 14:44:43 -0000
From: "ksgrimsr" <knut.s.grimsrud_at_dml_intel.com>
Subject: Re: Hank Breer: Plenum Drain Tube #101957

Part number 101957 is indicated in section 7.1.2 of the parts manual 
and it's item number 36 in the figure

    Knut

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_c...> wrote:
> Does it even appear in the parts manual? Can't find in the online
> versions.
> 
> This could save me engineering time & trouble: What is ~diameter of
> tube? How is seal around trough opening? Is it designed to be
> removable to clean detrius?
> 
> Bill Robertson
> #5939 
> 





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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 09:52:59 -0500
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: RE: Hank Breer: Plenum Drain Tube #101957

Go to DeLorean Motor Companies web site.  You can do a search for the part.
Since you have the part number it is easy. It is in section 7 of the parts
manual.

www.delorean.com

Scott Mueller
002981
DOA 5031



-----Original Message-----
From: content22207 [mailto:brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 10:42 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Hank Breer: Plenum Drain Tube #101957


Does it even appear in the parts manual? Can't find in the online
versions.

This could save me engineering time & trouble: What is ~diameter of
tube? How is seal around trough opening? Is it designed to be
removable to clean detrius?

Bill Robertson
#5939

>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., <hbreer_at_dml_i...> wrote:
> I wonder how many cars do not have a PLENUM DRAIN TUBE, P/N 101957
installed.
> Under $10.00 from your favorite DeLorean supplier.
>
> Hank Breer
> 1141
>
> On Tue, 20 Aug 2002 content22207 <brobertson_at_dml_c...> wrote:
>
> > In a fit of brilliance, DMC placed the drain
> > for the windshield trough directly above the
> > fuel pump. Don't need to be a rocket scientist
> > to see where all the water comes from.



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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 07:31:38 +1000
From: Lance Haslewood <lanceh_at_dml_zeta.org.au>
Subject: Universal Studious promotional use of DMC (was BTTF DVD RELEASE)

I mentioned on the List that Universal Studios had contacted me regarding 
use of my DeLorean for promoting the release of the BTTF DVDs here in 
Sydney (Australia).  As a result of the posting, I've had several enquiries 
from 'D' owners in the US requesting advice on how their cars can be used 
for the American release.   To be honest, I have no idea!!   Try contacting 
Universal Studios.   Universal Studios here in Aus contacted me after 
having done a web search for 'D' owners in Australia.   They found my car 
through my son's website at www.deloreanaustralia.com.  I believe Universal 
did a cost analysis on bringing to Australia a DeLorean from Universal 
Studios in LA, but it was cost-prohibitive ($60,000).

Universal Studios have been in touch with me twice since June and have 
indicated they would like my car from 25Aug to 01 Sep.  I've had no further 
contact since July and with the 25th only a few days away, I'm starting to 
think that the requirement for the car may turn out to be a 
'fizzer'.  Either that or they have found another car!!

Lance




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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 08:10:59 -0700
From: <hbreer_at_dml_ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Plenum Drain Tube #101957

Parts Manual 7-1-2, Item 36

Both the DMC Texas & DeLorean One sites list it online for $9.63.

It is just an 'L' shaped rubber hose that attaches to the hole in the plenum
and routes water down, away from the fuel tank.  With the tight bend, it IS
prone to clogging with debris so you might consider slipping a small piece of
screening under the SCUTTLE FINISHER (P/N 105047 Parts manual 8-3-0, Item 16)
in front of the windshield to keep things out of the plenum.

Hank Breer
1141


On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 03:41:58 -0000 content22207 <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
wrote:

> Does it even appear in the parts manual? Can't
> find in the online versions.




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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 22:04:11 +0100
From: "Christopher M. Hawes" <chris_at_dml_hawes74.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Breaking it

Armed with an ammeter I confirmed quickly that the brake switch is intact
internally.

I used contact cleaner to improve the points on the boards and kept picking
up a dead signal.  I had noticed the night before that the 15AMP fuse No. 9
had blown.

This according to the plastic fuse box cover and diagram attached to the
inside of the wooden panel covering the fuses states that this fuse should
be for only the rear window demister and electric door mirror motors.
Initially I thought that I should fix the brake light problem before finding
the cause of No. 9 to blow.

I changed my mind and placed a correct 10AMP fuse in the No.9 position.  Not
only did the door mirror motors kick back to life but the brake lights also
burst into life.

What caused fuse No.9 to blow.  With the 10AMP in place I turned on every
single electrical system including air-con, fogs, high beam, indictors,
radio etc.  The fuse has not blown and the quad brake lights are still
working!

The plastic fuse box cover has a label stating No.18 should be a  fuse spare
where as on the other diagram it is supposed to be the stop lights.  Is my
car abnormal having the stop lights sharing with the demister and door
mirror motors???

Anyway, I shall check my mirror motors occasionally, if they stop working
then I know the brake lights will have too.

Regards

Chris H.
#5255

----- Original Message -----
From: Christopher M. Hawes <chris_at_dml_hawes74.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: [DML] Breaking it


> Thanks for the theories flying in about my lack of break lights.  I will
try
> cleaning the connections on the boards.  Without a circuit diagram I can
> only act on the hunch that if it was a board problem then at least one set
> of my break lights lights would be working.  All other aspects of the
boards
> such as the indicators etc all work as normal on each of the 2 boards.
>
> I hope to clean the connections tomorrow night and check the switch.  I
can
> see that it isn't stuck, I guess like Aaron's situation the switch is
> probably well and truly dead...
>
> I will post my findings
>
> Chris H.
> #5255
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: aaron_t_graham <aaron_t_graham_at_dml_yahoo.com>
> To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 9:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [DML] Breaking it
>
>
> > My brake lights went out a couple of months ago.  There were
> > basically four things I needed to check (otherwise I was going to
> > need to do a lot of wire checking):
> >
> > 1) Maybe The circuit boards connections are bad.  I'd heard these
> > were a problem, but I didn't think this was the case because (I
> > assumed) it wouldn't explain all 4 lights going out at the same time.
> > 2) The bulbs...Likewise with (1), it wouldn't explain them all going
> > out at once.  I tested the bulbs anyway.
> > 3) A fuse.  I checked and replaced just to make sure, but that wasn't
> > the problem.
> > 4) The switch.
> >
> > Sure enough, it was the last thing I checked (the switch).  After
> > taking the switch off I noticed that the switch was stuck in the "in"
> > position (obviously, since the lights were off).  I used pliers and
> > quite a bit of force to get it un-stuck, but it didn't work after
> > that.  Ordering a new one was quick, easy, and cheap (I guess), and
> > installing it took about 5 minutes.
> >
> > Aaron
> > #1506
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 20:03:07 -0700
From: "Payne" <bpayne_at_dml_macnet.com>
Subject: Grand Theft Auto: Vice City DeLorean giveaway

Please forgive me if this has been covered already, but some problems with
my E-mail has led to me missing some messages lately.

I was in a video game store today, and they had a sign for the new game
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City.  Since the game has an '80s theme, they are
giving away a DeLorean.  Unfortunately I can't for the life of me find out
where to enter the contest.  Does anyone have any more information on this?

Thank you.

payne





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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 14:30:14 -0400
From: wmack <wmack_at_dml_vt.edu>
Subject: Door alignment was Stuck door

Finally, I got my drivers side door open.  I took to countless number of body 
shops and mechanics and none of them would touch it.  I think that the front 
latch was locked, I think that is why the door would not open.  However; when 
I tried to manually unlock by pulling on the rods, I would hear a click but 
the door still wouldn't open.  To solve my problem, I took a flat head 
screwdriver and placed it on the latch assembly, and started hitting it with a 
rubber mallet, breaking off plastic pieces.  Wouldn't you know the door swung 
open.  I have a new latch coming from Houston. But I would like to get the 
door aligned before I put the new latch in.  How would I go about this 
process?

Thanks
  Willie
  Vin 5043




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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 19:52:04 -0000
From: "dmcjohn" <john.dore_at_dml_fidelity.com>
Subject: New England get together

Hi guys,
I was wondering if any DeLorean owners in the New England area would 
be interested in getting together some weekend? I have contact info 
for about 10 guys in the Boston area and have already emailed these 
guys but there might be a few more out there I'm not aware of, if so 
drop me an email and we can try and organise something! I was 
thinking of the weekend of the 7th of September. I've to move back to 
Ireland for about 1 year in a few weeks time, so I'd really like to 
meet up with some of you guys before I go back! Go for a few pints or 
something...
Thanks!
John Dore, Boston, MA. VIN #3810
Phone at work: (617) 563 7909
email john.dore AT fidelity.com




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