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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1206
Date: Saturday, September 21, 2002 5:26 AM

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There are 7 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: holy frazzled speedo cables, batman
From: Jan van de Wouw <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>

2. Re: Painted Factory Cars?
From: William T Wilson <fluffy_at_dml_snurgle.org>

3. Re: RE: twin turbo
From: "Shain Brannan" <shain_at_dml_elecmods.com>

4. momo hubs for our cars
From: "C. C. Cameron Putsch" <putsch.1_at_dml_osu.edu>

5. Re: Painted Factory Cars?
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

6. Hard start when cold
From: "delorean170" <Swoyerzone_at_dml_aol.com>

7. Re: Need Car Show Material
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 01:14:45 +0200
From: Jan van de Wouw <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>
Subject: Re: holy frazzled speedo cables, batman

On 20-09-2002 12:11, "K Creason" <dmc4687_at_dml_mindspring.com> n wrote:

> You wouldn't believe what I found in my speedo cable.
> It was becoming unraveled INSIDE the cable.
[snip]
> what happened to my lower speedo cable (it was exactly one year
> old, too). I am uploading a pic to the Files section-- take a look
> at that mess and tell me what you think.

I could be wrong, but it looks like your replacement lower cable is
the culprit; the inner cable is twisted the wrong way, causing the
cable to unwind when in use.

If the inner cable was twisted the other way around it would
actually TIGHTEN itself internally when under stress...

The wobbly AD-cable is quite common and most likely caused by it
being too long. There are a couple of good tips on fixing this
in the archives, it's also a good idea to lube this cable too
when you're doing your yearly AD-lube.
Just remove the wheel and cap and squirt a bit of quality oil
into the hole around the cable...

Good luck,

JAN van de Wouw
Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

#05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 20:15:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: William T Wilson <fluffy_at_dml_snurgle.org>
Subject: Re: Painted Factory Cars?

On Fri, 20 Sep 2002 deloreanss_at_dml_aol.com wrote:

> hehe. Well, I fell for it, I paid more than I should have for "one of
> the only five factory painted Deloreans". It was supposed to be a
> "prototype experiment". I have done extensive (exhaustive) research on
> the subject and come to the one and only truth in this matter. THERE
> ARE and NEVER WERE ANY PAINTED DELOREANS FROM THE FACTORY. Lemme tell

There never were any painted from the factory, that is true.  The factory
didn't have the facilities there to do painting, for one.

However, there were some cars which were contracted out by the factory to
be painted by a contractor, as DMC was planning to sell painted cars.  A
couple years ago DMC Houston found some tan interior pieces in the
warehouse marked to be used with painted cars.  I don't know whether DMC
shipped body panels to be painted and then assembled them at the factory,
or whether they shipped completed cars to the contractor.  I don't even
know who the contractor was.

It is possible that you got one of these factory-authorized-painted cars,
which would be an interesting collector piece.  It's also possible that
the car was painted by the dealer, as you concluded; that's most likely.  
Either of those could have accounted for the car being marked as red on
the original title.




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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 02:15:42 -0000
From: "Shain Brannan" <shain_at_dml_elecmods.com>
Subject: Re: RE: twin turbo

Hello,

I have always wanted to know the answer to that question.  Everyone 
says that the internals to so very diffrent then stock, yet no one 
really seems to know.  There really isn't a whole lot that could 
really be diffrent.  For starters it most likely has much better 
piston rings, diffrent pistons maybe, and should have stronger 
rods.  Could the cylinders walls be over bored?  probably not.  The 
heads could be modified,  but i would belive that they would be 
untouched.  The idea in any company is to produce reliable results 
with as little changes as possible.  Increase the piston, rings and 
rods give it the added strength.  Who knows,  the motor could 
stock.  

- Shain
#10140




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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:49:56 -0400
From: "C. C. Cameron Putsch" <putsch.1_at_dml_osu.edu>
Subject: momo hubs for our cars

I was told momo part number 5602 fits our car. This one is for all land rovers. All we need to do is at least find one with the correct splines then it could be spaced if the hub was too short.

casey


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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 03:03:16 -0000
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Painted Factory Cars?

At the warehouse in Ohio I saw a test panel of S/S with different 
colors painted on it. The story behind it was that the factory was 
experimenting with the idea of offering painted panels. The option 
would be offered as a "drive in in the morning-drive out in the 
afternoon" deal trading in the origional panels for panels of a 
different color. The factory NEVER offered painted panels for sale to 
the public but did at least plan on it. The factory also provided a 
procedure for painting the S/S panels for dealers that wanted to offer 
it to their customers. After the end of DMC some cars got painted 
because the selling dealers thought it might be easier to sell that 
way. Other cars got painted because of body damage and since the 
panels were hard to come by for a time it was faster and cheaper to 
just paint the whole car. Since the S/S is type 304 and is nonmagnetic 
you can only tell if there is body filler on the panels by either 
removing the paint or using a sonic tester.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "treehouse2000us" <treehouse2000us_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> Hey DeLorean Guru's
> 
> I need some help with the cronology of the DeLorean in the "1983 
> Production Year", if you want to call it that.
> 
> I have a guy who is selling a Black exterior DeLorean, and it looks 
> perfect, just like it came from the factory.  Actualy, he claims 
that 
> 
> Tom Porter
> The other Tom from Maine




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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 03:06:51 -0000
From: "delorean170" <Swoyerzone_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Hard start when cold

Hi, I own DeLorean DMC-12 VIN 5898, I bought her on July 25th of 
2001. Since in my ownership I have had all kinds of problems. finally 
in from mid March to late May the car ran perfect, no problems, then 
my AC belt froze. After all that was fixed I found my lower pick up 
hose literally fell apart in my gas tank. Then I began to have cold 
start problems. Currently I have the fuel distributor being rebuilt 
by a well known and very highly mechanic of the area in which I live. 
He is very experienced with the bosch K injection, and well the 
DeLorean altogether. Now this car has had many surprises, most common 
problems I have usually turn out to be something either 
Very minor or a lot larger.
Now the parts I can recall that I replaced has been,
Fuel pump, accumulator, thermo time switch, all fuel lines that were 
bad,  warm up regulator, pressure regulator, a full tune up, new 
brakes, new slide quadrant, new Ac wheel, all new belts, and many 
more parts. But although my mechanic and I are very much hoping the 
distributor is bad, and that's it I just want to know if anyone else 
may have some ideas. The car simply takes about 6 times to start 
cold. after its going the idle takes about a min or so to smooth out, 
then you can drive without any other problems, until you hit traffic 
then the car attempts to over heat, so far this only occurred 3 
times, and all times it was near the shop or my home, so it hasn't, 
yet. I looked at many tech tips, but none had solved my problem. So 
from any DeLorean past or current owners, if this same situation 
happened did it turn out to be just the distributor????






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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 00:51:30 EDT
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Need Car Show Material

In a message dated 9/21/02 12:50:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
kkoncelik_at_dml_aol.com writes:

<< Right Josh and Nick.
 
 Ken 
  >>
what story do I have to tell?

Later,
Nick Pitello
1852
15914
<A HREF="Http://members.aol.com/njp548">Http://members.aol.com/njp548</A>



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