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Date: Friday, October 04, 2002 12:46 PM

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There are 19 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: compressor belt
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

2. Tire sizes
From: Jamie Hamlin <jhamlin_at_dml_avart.net>

3. Door Launchers
From: "John L. Rahn" <john_rahn_at_dml_msn.com>

4. back to the future prop help and location!?
From: "James La Londe" <deloreandmcxii_at_dml_excite.com>

5. Re: compressor belt
From: Jan van de Wouw <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>

6. A/C Mode Switch
From: "Shain Brannan" <shain_at_dml_elecmods.com>

7. Tilley website
From: Jamie Hamlin <jhamlin_at_dml_avart.net>

8. LED's and strange wiring
From: "M. P. Olans" <mpolans_at_dml_creeper.com>

9. Re: compressor belt
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>

10. Re: Tire sizes
From: "B Benson" <delornut_at_dml_peoplepc.com>

11. Re: Tire sizes
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>

12. Re: Tilley website
From: kayoong_at_dml_aol.com

13. Re: Havent read a good book lately
From: "Rob Hook" <rob_hook_at_dml_cavtel.net>

14. Re: Havent read a good book lately
From: id <ionicdesign_at_dml_execpc.com>

15. power window motor assembly wanted!
From: "C. C. Cameron Putsch" <putsch.1_at_dml_osu.edu>

16. Stainless Steel Illusion
From: "Digital Devices" <delorean_at_dml_digital-devices.net>

17. RE LED's and strange wiring
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

18. NEW Redesigned auto governor computers
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

19. DeLorean eBay Motors Category
From: Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>





Message: 1
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 14:01:23 -0000
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: compressor belt

Taking the belt off will stop the noise if that"s where it's comming 
from. There won't be any ill effects except that there will be no A/C. 
A better course of action would be to remove the belt and if the noise 
does go away all you have to do is replace the bearings in the idler 
pulleys. This is not too hard a job as after removing the belt you are 
halfway done! The bearings are not very expensive and it's hard to 
drive the Delorean without A/C. When you order the bearings from a "D" 
vender they will also send you an "O" ring to replace behind a cover 
behind one of the idler pulleys. You can get the bearings localy but 
just remember to get that "O" ring too.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Adam" <acprice1_at_dml_h...> wrote:
> My compressor and/or idler pulleys make lots of noise. I was 
thinking 
> of just taking the belt of them to eliminate the noise until I can 
> fix the stuff. I just want some input on this, any adverse effects, 
> is it a crappy idea, etc?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Adam




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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 10:47:00 -0400
From: Jamie Hamlin <jhamlin_at_dml_avart.net>
Subject: Tire sizes

I'm getting ready to purchase tires for my D (my wheels are at the shop
being
machined) I would like to stick with the stock sizes but the choices are
slim
and I would like to get something with a wild tread pattern like the
Yokohama AVS ES100.  They make the front tire in this size but the rear
choices are 215/60/R15 or 225/50/R15   Are these sizes to far off of the

stock 235/60/R15 ??    The old tires I took off where 255/60/R15 and
they
looked great on the back.....




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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 15:36:23 -0000
From: "John L. Rahn" <john_rahn_at_dml_msn.com>
Subject: Door Launchers

Has anyone heard any news on when the door launchers will be 
available?  I emailed Bob Zilla on his site but I never got a reply.  
Everytime I ask P.J. Grady, they say "it will probably be another 
month".  Thats been going on for over a year now.  Any news will be 
appreciated.




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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 12:44:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: "James La Londe" <deloreandmcxii_at_dml_excite.com>
Subject: back to the future prop help and location!?


I saw a post on the list recently linking to site that had some pics 
of a guy who had rented his car out to a local business. The business
had built a movie prop that replaced the louvres to make it look like the time machine. It wasn't a very good replica but was great considering it's "bolt-on-ability" and the fact that it did nothing damaging to the car. He stated that after the promo the prop was given
to him.
James Esprey of DMC H posted about an event going on in Lansing, Mi. A high school would like to use a D at thier prom, and i mentioned the existance of this quick-conversion prop. The coordinator of the event interested in doing a number of things BTTF style, and this is one.
Who owns this prop? 
Could the owner contact tme off list please, to discus the possibilty of renting the prop?

Thank you so much!

Are there any other easy options to a painless, easy, reversible BTTF Time Machine conversion out there?

-James La Londe
1981 Delorean DMC-12 
vin#001697 
LicPlate DMC XII
1998 Kawasaki Vulcan 800
1992 Ford Probe GT



-James La Londe
1981 Delorean DMC-12 
vin#001697 
LicPlate DMC XII
1998 Kawasaki Vulcan 800
1992 Ford Probe GT

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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 19:29:18 +0200
From: Jan van de Wouw <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>
Subject: Re: compressor belt

> My compressor and/or idler pulleys make lots of noise.
> I was thinking of just taking the belt of them to eliminate
> the noise until I can fix the stuff. I just want some input
> on this, any adverse effects, is it a crappy idea, etc?

No problem: did that on mine too untill i had time and money
to get my A/C fixed properly... We put on BOTH belts new,
new idler pulley bearings and refitted the system to R134a.

It's been a couple of weeks, temperatures arte dropping here,
nut I'm still glad to have the A/C working; should have done
this MUCH earlier...

Jan van de Wouw

Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

#05141 "Dagger" since sept 2000
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 20:45:46 -0000
From: "Shain Brannan" <shain_at_dml_elecmods.com>
Subject: A/C Mode Switch

Hello,

I was replacing my mode switch diaphram and light switch today.  As 
it would appear the previous owner installed a small amplifier 
behind the panel, when i remove it it yanked all of my wires off of 
the switch, and pulled numerous bulbs out.  So now i have my console 
removed to get access to all of my wires,  only thing i need now is 
a diagram on where to place the three terminals back on the switch.

- Shain
#10140




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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 13:33:26 -0400
From: Jamie Hamlin <jhamlin_at_dml_avart.net>
Subject: Tilley website

It looks like the Tilley website is gone.
does anyone know anything about this.




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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 18:17:05 -0000
From: "M. P. Olans" <mpolans_at_dml_creeper.com>
Subject: LED's and strange wiring

Hey all,
     I flew Jim Reeve down from Minnesota to help me with some
projects.  I wanted to publicly thank him for his great work and let
you all know he's really a wiz at DeLorean wiring.  One of the
projects was that we installed red LED third brakelights on my louver
by running the wires down the quarter panel and spliced them into the
brake light wires and the ground right before the plug that connects
them with the circuit board.  They work perfectly.  When the brake
lights come on, so do the red LEDs.  I did the same thing with amber
LEDs for the turn signals.  Wired the same way and sharing the ground
with the brakelights (from the plug going into the circuit board.) 
The problem is when I hit the turn signal switch or the hazards
switch, the turn signals work as normal but the LEDs do not work along
with them.  We checked polarity and they are wired just as the red
LEDs are, and the red ones work, just no joy on the amber ones. 
Anyone have a similar problem or run into something like this?  Let me
know, we're stumped!

Thanks,
Matthew
VIN #16816
VIN #10365-a good stripping project for someone who wants a
mechanically sound D.




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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 21:42:34 -0000
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
Subject: Re: compressor belt

Your A/C won't work.

Water pump is driven by alternator belt, so you won't kill the car.

But...

Bearings aren't expensive or difficult to replace. No joke -- they
cost less than an oil filter (probably the cheapest thing on these
little cars). Go ahead and buy a pair. You'll have them installed so
quickly that you will need to find some other activity to fill the
rest of your afternoon. I'm sure your vendor will walk you through the
process (I use a vise).

Bill Robertson
#5939

>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Adam" <acprice1_at_dml_h...> wrote:
> My compressor and/or idler pulleys make lots of noise. I was thinking 
> of just taking the belt of them to eliminate the noise until I can 
> fix the stuff. I just want some input on this, any adverse effects, 
> is it a crappy idea, etc?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Adam




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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 16:58:31 -0500
From: "B Benson" <delornut_at_dml_peoplepc.com>
Subject: Re: Tire sizes

225/50/15  means that the tire is 225 millimeters wide and the side wall
height is 50% of the width. Of course the 15 means a 15" wheel. The stock
size was 235/60/15 so the 225/50 is 10 millimeters narrower ( a little less
than 1/2" )and the side wall is a little lower, 50% of 225 millimeters vs.
60% of 235 millimeters.  That would result in a slightly smaller diameter
tire which would  lower the final drive ratio a bit; not a bad thing as the
DeLorean is geared pretty high and the lower final drive will make the car
feel a slight bit quicker. Since you're going from a 255 tire the difference would be even more noticable. Fuel mileage will suffer slightly but not enough
to be a problem. I don't think handling would be affected dramaticaly either. I've thought about the AVS ES100's too and I can't imagine
10 millimeters narrower will be a problem.  That only interperets to about
1/4" narrower on the each side of the wheel.

Bruce Benson


>I would like to get something with a wild tread pattern like the
> Yokohama AVS ES100.  They make the front tire in this size >but the rear
> choices are 215/60/R15 or 225/50/R15   Are these sizes to far >off of the
>
> stock 235/60/R15 ??    The old tires I took off where >255/60/R15 and
> they
> looked great on the back.....





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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 21:57:12 -0000
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
Subject: Re: Tire sizes

1 to 1.5 inches smaller...

Do you know how to read tire sizes? If not:
1st number is width of tire in mm at widest point of sidewalls, not tread
2nd number is height of tire in mm as a percentage of 1st number (60 =
60%)
3rd number is diameter of rim

You probably liked old tires because they filled wheel well. If so,
don't think you'll be happy with a lower profile.

Bill Robertson
#5939

>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Jamie Hamlin <jhamlin_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> I'm getting ready to purchase tires for my D (my wheels are at the shop
> being
> machined) I would like to stick with the stock sizes but the choices are
> slim
> and I would like to get something with a wild tread pattern like the
> Yokohama AVS ES100.  They make the front tire in this size but the rear
> choices are 215/60/R15 or 225/50/R15   Are these sizes to far off of the
> 
> stock 235/60/R15 ??    The old tires I took off where 255/60/R15 and
> they
> looked great on the back.....




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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 19:57:56 EDT
From: kayoong_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Tilley website

As posted "upgrading and will be available shortly."

You can also try: <A HREF="http://www.toddmicro.com/inventions/energy/tilley/">http://www.toddmicro.com/inventions/energy/tilley/</A>

Kayo Ong
#5508
Lic 9D NY 


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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 22:31:34 -0400
From: "Rob Hook" <rob_hook_at_dml_cavtel.net>
Subject: Re: Havent read a good book lately

If you're referring to the Blue Domino DeLorean drawing, that wasn't
supposed to end until December 1st.  Did they decide to end it early or are
you talking about a different contest?

--Rob
----- Original Message -----
From: "treehouse2000us" <treehouse2000us_at_dml_yahoo.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 6:32 PM
Subject: [DML] Havent read a good book lately


> I have tried to get Stainless Steel Ilusion in every bookstore,
> library and college campus north of Bangor,Maine (a huge area) to no
> avail.  And I am not about to buy a copy of it from Amazon for $250.
> So, I propose to those who have it, I would like to rent it for 2 or
> 3 weeks for a modest sum, plus of course money to ship it registured
> mail.  This way I get to read one of the most informative books about
> DeLorean, and you get a little cash for something you dont use
> everyday.
>
> I was going to offer a price, but I dont really know what such a
> rental is worth.  Surely a mesily $5 or $10 is was too little, so I
> will take offers at my email treehouse2000us_at_dml_yahoo.com .  I truely
> want to read this book, so please send your offers.  Thanks a million
> you guys (+ gals).
>
> Tom Porter
>
> Ps.  Remeber that contest for the free DeLorean car, the link was
> posted here about a month ago.  It ended yesterday, does anybody know
> who won it, and is it someone on the list?  I hope so, at least it
> would stay in the 'house'.  Take care everyone!!
>
>
>
> To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address:
> moderators_at_dml_dmcnews.com
>
> To search the archives or view files, log in at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews
>
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>
>




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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 22:04:04 -0500
From: id <ionicdesign_at_dml_execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Havent read a good book lately

this was a diffrent contest here is the link.
http://www.gamestop.com/gs/gta3giveaway/sweepstakes.asp?affid=6612

mark



Rob Hook wrote:

> If you're referring to the Blue Domino DeLorean drawing, that wasn't
> supposed to end until December 1st.  Did they decide to end it early or are
> you talking about a different contest?
>
> --Rob
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "treehouse2000us" <treehouse2000us_at_dml_yahoo.com>
> To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 6:32 PM
> Subject: [DML] Havent read a good book lately
>
> > I have tried to get Stainless Steel Ilusion in every bookstore,
> > library and college campus north of Bangor,Maine (a huge area) to no
> > avail.  And I am not about to buy a copy of it from Amazon for $250.
> > So, I propose to those who have it, I would like to rent it for 2 or
> > 3 weeks for a modest sum, plus of course money to ship it registured
> > mail.  This way I get to read one of the most informative books about
> > DeLorean, and you get a little cash for something you dont use
> > everyday.
> >
> > I was going to offer a price, but I dont really know what such a
> > rental is worth.  Surely a mesily $5 or $10 is was too little, so I
> > will take offers at my email treehouse2000us_at_dml_yahoo.com .  I truely
> > want to read this book, so please send your offers.  Thanks a million
> > you guys (+ gals).
> >
> > Tom Porter
> >
> > Ps.  Remeber that contest for the free DeLorean car, the link was
> > posted here about a month ago.  It ended yesterday, does anybody know
> > who won it, and is it someone on the list?  I hope so, at least it
> > would stay in the 'house'.  Take care everyone!!
> >
> >
> >
> > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address:
> > moderators_at_dml_dmcnews.com
> >
> > To search the archives or view files, log in at
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews
> >
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> >
> >
>
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>
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 23:34:48 -0400
From: "C. C. Cameron Putsch" <putsch.1_at_dml_osu.edu>
Subject: power window motor assembly wanted!

I am looking to buy a power window motor with gears, cable, and track. Does anyone have one they would like to sell.

Casey at putsch.1_at_dml_osu.edu 


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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 02:20:11 -0400
From: "Digital Devices" <delorean_at_dml_digital-devices.net>
Subject: Stainless Steel Illusion

I have a copy of Stainless Steel Illusion on CD .. PDF format which I
aquired from a gentleman in London England
 
He tried to list them on eBay but was booted off..
 
I am sure that it breaks a bunch of copyright laws.. but with a little
feedback from the mailing list on your views
 
Of the copyright issue.. I am sure I can make a few copies.
 
BUT!!!!!
 
If people feel this is wrong or that I should not .. let me know .. I
don't want to get anybody upset..
 
Its just that it is SUCH a good book , yet so hard to find.. and when
you do find it .. its so damn expensive
 
 
You can email me privately - ken_at_dml_digital-devices.net
 
 
Thanks
Kenneth
05541
 
 


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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 09:46:11 +0100
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: RE LED's and strange wiring

Hi Matt

I'm not quite sure what you're trying to do here - do you mean you've 
wired up another pair of turn signals? What LEDs have you used? Are they 
meant for 12v? Can you connect them to a 12v source and have them light up?

Best Wishes

Martin
#1458 & #4426 (picking up from Germany this weekend - yay!)

From:  "M. P. Olans" <mpolans_at_dml_c... 
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/post?protectID=029154253078158116090218141148130239041248042046167121181>> 

Date:  Thu Oct 3, 2002  7:17 pm
Subject:  LED's and strange wiring



  Wired the same way and sharing the ground
with the brakelights (from the plug going into the circuit board.)
The problem is when I hit the turn signal switch or the hazards
switch, the turn signals work as normal but the LEDs do not work along
with them. We checked polarity and they are wired just as the red
LEDs are, and the red ones work, just no joy on the amber ones.
Anyone have a similar problem or run into something like this? Let me
know, we're stumped!




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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 10:03:20 +0100
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: NEW Redesigned auto governor computers

Hi All

For those who were at Memphis. you may have met myself and Rich showing 
off his prototype automatic transmission governor. Built from scratch, 
though using the original design as a template, this module has 
(finally) been fitted to James Russel-Grant's car and shown to work 
beautifully. To quote James:

"I am pleased to say that with the new GC installed my car shifts 
beautifully, kicks down correctly and is smoother than ever"

The new governor has been designed professionally and as a drop-in 
replacement for the original (unfortunately due to its nature you will 
have to be able to use a soldering iron to fit it). It is based on the 
original design though has several additions and modifictions to the 
circuit to ensure longevity, and to correct original design flaws. Rich 
also plans to add manually variable shift points for turbo users (like 
him) and a semi-automatic add-on. All this is really easy to achieve.

The point to this e-mail is to ask "is anyone interested"? To get 10 of 
these made would be prohibitive in both time and money, however to get a 
larger volume made would mean each one would be very inexpensive. Please 
mail me off-list if interested

Martin
#1458 & #4426




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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 03:28:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>
Subject: DeLorean eBay Motors Category

Nice, I just noticed that eBay Motors now has a Passenger Vehicles ->
DeLorean category. No more of this "Other Makes A-M" nonsense. :)

-Christian




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