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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1235
Date: Sunday, October 13, 2002 10:49 AM

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1. Re: Interesting story!
From: "therealdmcvegas" <>

2. DMC of Houston
From: "birdwell77095" <>

3. Re: No Heat :hot water valve?
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <>

4. Re: starting problem
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <>

5. Re: Another update on my tuneup, not going good.
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <>

Message: 1
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 15:41:21 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <>
Subject: Re: Interesting story!

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "basfe25" <dmcman73_at_dml_h...> wrote:
> then proceeds to tell me that his friend was crazy because he bought 
> it from the American Express catalog back in the 80's. I stopped 
> dead in my tracks and asked him "was is it gold?" and he 
> said " was gold plated and it had a tan interior in it...he 
> paid like $80,000 for it!" According to him his friend bought the 
> car, had it delivered to him and had never driven it....has 0 miles 
> on it. The guy used to lived in Wantagh Long Island, NY and had long 
> since moved to CA. I was bummed because I wanted to go see it. Any 
> way...that's my close encounter to seeing a Gold Delorean in 
> person....almost :(.
> Steve

I believe that the gold D up in Reno came from California, specificly 
Pasadena, I think. Anywho, as was explained to me last time I was in Reno, 
the insurance was so high, that he simply donated the car to the Harrah's 
collection in Reno. I think that the insurance quote on the plaque in front of the 
car stems from this. It also says that the name of the person who owned it was 
Sherwood Marshall. Did you happen to get the guy's name?

Now for another related note, here is some new info on the car. I friend of 
mine was in Reno a couple of weeks ago, and went to see the car. It was 
explained to him that the AMEX cars were given a unique model code. 
Regular stainless DeLorean's are designated as "DMC-12". But the gold cars 
have the model # of "LK". My firend questioned the woman, but she stated that 
their paperwork on the car lists is as an LK. So I guess now we finally know 
where Sunstar got that desigation for the model cars from. Any chance that 
James, or someone else down in Houston might have a bit more info on this?

Here's a pic from another DML'ers web page that shows a picture of it.

vin 6585 "X"


Message: 2
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 15:41:56 -0000
From: "birdwell77095" <>
Subject: DMC of Houston

My name is Shannon. I've been reading the archives of the newsletter
and have gotten familiar with a lot of issues. Next Saturday, OCT
19th, DMC of Houston is having an open house to celebrate their new
location. IF you want to attend, be sure to RSVP.



Message: 3
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 23:54:20 -0000
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <>
Subject: Re: No Heat :hot water valve?

Get on your knees and look behind the front right wheel. You will see 
two small hoses curving upward by the frame. When the engine is 
running and hot those hoses should also be hot. If they aren't then 
either the heater circuit is blocked or bypassed. To see the heater 
valve you have to look hard. It is all the way foward of the engine 
and down on the right side just off center. If the motor never warms 
up because of a bad thermostat or the cooling fans running continuosly 
you won't get any heat either.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Adam" <acprice1_at_dml_h...> wrote:
> I looked again and cannot see this valve anywhere. I even climbed on 
> top of the engine so i could see down behind it and I cannot find 
> this valve anywhere. I think that a previous owner may have removed 
> the valve and bypassed the heater core... 
> Adam
> > > On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 07:07:19 -0000 "Adam" <acprice1_at_dml_h...> writes:
> > > My car hasnt had heat since I bought it. I looked for the hot 
> water 
> > > valve but could not find it anywhere in the engine compartment. 
> > > Where 
> > > is this valve usually located?
> > > 
> > > Adam


Message: 4
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 23:57:09 -0000
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <>
Subject: Re: starting problem

Inspect the fuse block. If the wire connectors have slipped back and 
are not engaging the fuses it may look like the fuse is fully inserted 
but it doesn't touch the connector.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., <eric_at_dml_s...> wrote:
> Hi Everyone!
> I'm a new owner (2 weeks) and I've already hit my first snag. I was 
removing some non-standard wiring from the fuse block that a previous 
owner had installed for a cellphone. The wires jumped into fuses 11 
and 17. Afterwards, my car ran fine but I had lost all systems the 
fuse 11 powered. I inspected the socket and saw that the add-in jumper 
had expanded the socket, so the fuse alone wasn't able to make a 
connection. I plugged the jumper back in (sealing off the other end of 
the jumper wire so the power couldn't go anywhere) and now the car 
won't start. She'll turn over, the fuel pump engages when I try to 
start it, and all the fuses are good. I've loosened a fuel line going 
to an injector just a little and saw gas coming out when it was 
starting. I've check to see if the spark plugs are getting spark, 
which they are. 
> If anyone has any ideas, please share!
> Thank you!
> Eric Itzel
> Vin #04433
> Sevierville, TN
> Eric_at_dml_s...
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Message: 5
Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 23:59:36 -0000
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <>
Subject: Re: Another update on my tuneup, not going good.

Turn the three brass screws clockwise. LGHTLY seat them closed. Now 
find and fix ALL of your vacuum leaks and make sure the idle motor is 
hooked up.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Payne" <bpayne_at_dml_m...> wrote:
> Well, I announced yesterday that after doing a tune up twice (or at 
> dismantling it twice) I was able to get the car running again.  Even 
> I had a small vacuum leak, I was proud of being able to finally get 
> running again.  I took it to work today, and it ran fine except for 
it had
> hardly any power below 3,000 rpms, but still ran relatively smooth. 
 When I
> took it to lunch, the idle was extremely low, and I found the wires 
on the
> connector at the idle speed motor were damaged.  


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