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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1248
Date: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 5:50 PM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. DMC ^2
From: Creator Of Magic <powerpc_at_dml_spymac.com>

2. Re: DMC Service Cat Replacement?
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>

3. Re: Some mighty hard shifting
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

4. Re: door strut mount bending?!
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

5. Re: DeLorean Stock Certificate for sale
From: billsfanmd_at_dml_aol.com

6. Re: door strut mount bending?!
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>

7. Re: Adventures in tune-up land: The saga continues.
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>

8. Re: Some mighty hard shifting
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>

9. Re: 1981 Black Delorean 3-Rotor Wankel Rotary for sale on Ebay
From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com>

10. Re: DMC Service Cat Replacement?
From: Elvis Nocita <elvisnocita_at_dml_gmx.de>

11. Re: DMC Service Cat Replacement?
From: "Paul Salsbury" <paul.salsbury_at_dml_ntlworld.com>

12. Re:Delorean leather seat covers..... I have to challenge this one
From: "jamesrguk" <James_rg_at_dml_hotmail.com>

13. RE: DMC Service Cat Replacement?
From: "mgutkowski_at_dml_cix.co.uk" <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

14. RE: door strut mount bending?!
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>

15. CV Boots & Delco Alternator replacement
From: doctorDHD_at_dml_aol.com

16. RE: Re: DMC Service Cat Replacement?
From: "mgutkowski_at_dml_cix.co.uk" <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

17. RE: Re:Delorean leather seat covers..... I have to challenge this one
From: "Chris Parnham" <cp_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

18. Re: DeLorean Stock Certificate for sale
From: id <ionicdesign_at_dml_execpc.com>

19. Re: the old new DMC pictures
From: "Rob Hook" <rob_hook_at_dml_cavtel.net>

20. Re: DMC ^2
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com

21. Re: Re: door strut mount bending?!
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com

22. Re: CV Boots & Delco Alternator replacement
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

23. Service question
From: "Carson Clark" <cnsandog_at_dml_bellsouth.net>

24. Hello Everyone
From: "media1524" <brentlun_at_dml_netrax.net>

25. Re: DMC Service Cat Replacement?
From: Jan van de Wouw <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>





Message: 1
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 23:46:31 -0400
From: Creator Of Magic <powerpc_at_dml_spymac.com>
Subject: DMC ^2

Hello,
Does anyone have any news on this besides the time pieces, and that 
they have prototypes?  Does anyone know of an expected shipping date?  
Does DeLorean still have the finances that he claimed to have a couple 
of years ago?  Why was his site www.deloreanmotorcompany.com sold to 
DeLorean One?  So many question so little time.

Michael
Miss Matched Numbers.... literally....




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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 03:48:16 -0000
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
Subject: Re: DMC Service Cat Replacement?

You can accomplish the same thing by simply removing the honeycomb
from your existing converter. This is of course illegal, but not all
parts of the country have emissions testing... Since the muffler is
stainless steel, even a car that's been in road salt will separate
very easily.

FWIW: any HP gain seems to be negligible. The good news is: noise
level doesn't increase (I might have gutted the converters on one of
my Lincolns and the empty shells could have acted like resonating
chambers).

Bill Robertson
#5939

>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Chris " <dursman_at_dml_h...> wrote:
> Has anybody tried this pipe to replace the cat on their DeLorean?  I 
> was wondering if it really gives a 10 hp increase, and if this can 
> actually be felt.  In case you haven't seen it, here is the link:
> http://www.dmc-service.nl/Uk/Index_Uk.htm
> 
> A 10 hp increase for $90 in our car, would be a great addition.  
> Please let me know if anyone has experience with this.  Thanks.
> -chris-




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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 03:49:55 -0000
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Some mighty hard shifting

You might only need a linkage adjustment. Get out your Workshop Manual 
and go to F:07:01. You should also make sure everything is lubricated 
and moving freely. If this doesn't help you might have to replace the 
roll pin inside the transmission. As long as you are working around 
the transmission make sure you also check the fluid level As per 
F:03:01. You really don't need anything exotic, #80-90 weight gear oil 
is fine (A:05:01).
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin_at_dml_v...> wrote:
> My shifting has become difficult and I can only find 5th gear every 
so
> often. There is no grinding in the transmission and I have brand new 
master
> and slave clutch cylinders. This leads me to believe that the shift 
cable
> needs to be shortened since I cannot get far enough to the right to 
fifth
> gear.
> 
> Does this sound correct or am I way off base here?




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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 03:54:51 -0000
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: door strut mount bending?!

It has been proven that a certain strut that was supplied by some 
venders in the past caused the mounts to bend on some cars because it 
was too long when the door closed. If the anchor for your strut is 
bending it is not a good thing. Some of the venders sell a 
reenforcement bracket that you can install. Make sure then strut is 
not overstressing the mounts when the door is closed, if so replace 
it.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "C. C. Cameron Putsch" <putsch.1_at_dml_o...> wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone of you have noticed that the ball mount 
for your door strut that mounts to the roof is bending away from the 
strut under pressure. Is this a very bad thing, meaning it will break 
in the future. Should I replace something or modify it? 
> 
> Casey at putsch.1_at_dml_o...
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 23:56:39 EDT
From: billsfanmd_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: DeLorean Stock Certificate for sale

I watched these stock certificate auctions on ebay very closely.....In all 
about 7 stock certificates went over about a 4 week period. I believe the 
ones without JZD's signature went for $200-400 dollars. A few that had his 
signature went for over a thousand! I work in the Brokerage industry and 
there are basically 2 types of stock certificates: 

1) Custom certificates like Walt Disney that were designed for the company 
with their logo, pictures, etc.

2) Standard office stationary type certificates where the company name is 
just typed in with a typewriter.

It appears the one offered for sale is the cheaper of the two and does not 
even have JZD's signature. I am not a judge of historic stock certificates 
but I would be careful buying at that price... There are probably very few in 
existence so who knows what the actual value is....I believe the "on-sale" 
price is just marketing.

I do believe the cert is real and had some business purpose. But if you go to 
the FAQ on the DMC newsite you will see Knut's picture of a real DMC 
certificate....

http://www.dmcnews.com/faq/d_stock.htm

Buy carefully,
Mike 
2109


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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 04:00:30 -0000
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
Subject: Re: door strut mount bending?!

Your car is made of plastic -- yes, this is bad (should you ultimately
rip the stud out of the pontoon altogether, I think Rob Grady has an
oversized repair kit but you'll have to remove the headliner to install).

Your door struts are probably too long or too strong (remember:
torsion bars open the doors, not the struts). DML had a long thread
this summer on the same topic. I don't want to restart that vendor vs
vendor discussion, but FWIW my Grady struts are excellent. Of course
they wouldn't be worth a darn without my torsion bar adjustments
(thanks Dave!).

Buy a known suitable set of struts from an honest to goodness DeLorean
vendor. If your doors continue to sag, get an experienced adjuster to
tighten the torsion bars. Your ball studs (and the pontoon) will thank
you.

Bill Robertson
#5939

>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "C. C. Cameron Putsch" <putsch.1_at_dml_o...> wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone of you have noticed that the ball mount
for your door strut that mounts to the roof is bending away from the
strut under pressure. Is this a very bad thing, meaning it will break
in the future. Should I replace something or modify it? 
> 
> Casey at putsch.1_at_dml_o...
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 04:17:51 -0000
From: "content22207" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
Subject: Re: Adventures in tune-up land: The saga continues.

Oh dear Payne, is it time to trade the little silver car for a new
Subaru? If your wiring harness is stock, you should have *THREE* black
wires going to the idle speed motor, each with a different stripe. The
middle one (Black/Pink) is 12v in. Black/Green and Black/Red are your
polarized lines back to the onboard computer. The circuit is grounded
inside the computer, so there's no need for any other wires (to
overcome twitchy ground, etc).

If it helps, my car is currently idling off its bypass screws -- idle
speed lines are capped until I can bend some conduit to reach my
relocated motor. Since A/C season is over, reasonable RPM's are easily
set manually.

Bill Robertson
#5939

>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Payne" <bpayne_at_dml_m...> wrote:
> Many of you have read about my recent tune up adventure, and I really do
> appreciate all of your suggestions.  Now I only have one more thing
to get
> fixed before I can drive her again.  I ordered a new idle speed motor
> connector to replace my damaged one.  I wondered why there was a
fourth wire
> going into it, and when I pulled the little rubber boot off I saw it was
> bunched up inside against an exposed part of the black wire.  The
idle speed
> motor won't run without this wire touching it.  I can't tell where
it comes
> from, but it goes into the frame rail.  Does anyone know if this is
a common
> modification?  I can only figure the black wire is dead somewhere so
another
> power source was wired in, rather sketchily I might add.
> 
> Now I don't know what to do.  Should I find the source of the problem,
> restore the original wiring, and replace the connector as I planned?  Or
> should I continue using it like it is, but making the modification a
little
> more reliable?  Keep in mind I'm a fool when it comes to
electronics, and
> many devices have caught fire by my hands.  I want to keep it as
reliable
> and simple as possible.
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> payne




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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 04:48:50 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: Re: Some mighty hard shifting

A linkage adjustment adjustment sounds about right. Specificly the crossgate 
cable. Same problem here, except it was reversed, and couldn't get into 2nd. 
Just as important, while you're down there, make sure that you also lube the 
pivot bolt too.

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin_at_dml_v...> wrote:
> My shifting has become difficult and I can only find 5th gear every so
> often. There is no grinding in the transmission and I have brand new master
> and slave clutch cylinders. This leads me to believe that the shift cable
> needs to be shortened since I cannot get far enough to the right to fifth
> gear.
> 
> Does this sound correct or am I way off base here?




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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 01:17:00 -0400
From: Jim Strickland <ihaveanaccount_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Re: 1981 Black Delorean 3-Rotor Wankel Rotary for sale on Ebay

that's not funny.

The 3rotor was a technological miracle for my poor Delorean.  The
domino's pizza car was a horrible interpretation of a bad idea.

Jim
1537


On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 18:57:19 -0700 (PDT) PEDRO MALDONADO
<im2witty_at_dml_yahoo.com> writes:
> I noticed the "Black Rotary" Delorean on Ebay and I
> believe it ranks right up there with the "Dominos
> Pizza Delivery" Delorean from a few weeks ago.
> 
> Pete 
> vin #6201
> --- fivetwofive <CBL302_at_dml_msn.com> wrote:
> > In case no one has noticed, there is a 1981 Black
> > Delorean 3 Rotor 
> > Wankel Rotary on Ebay the link is: 
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> > ViewItem&item=1869452510
> > 
> > 
> > The Discription is as follows:
> > 1981 Black Delorean 3-Rotor Wankel Rotary  
> > Vehicle Description  



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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 08:25:45 +0200 (MEST)
From: Elvis Nocita <elvisnocita_at_dml_gmx.de>
Subject: Re: DMC Service Cat Replacement?

I wouldn't believe that without having seen an actual test report of a car
before 
and after changing the cat.

And I would want to be there when they measure the 10hp more that they
promise.

ELV1S


> Has anybody tried this pipe to replace the cat on their DeLorean?  I 
> was wondering if it really gives a 10 hp increase, and if this can 
> actually be felt.  In case you haven't seen it, here is the link:
> http://www.dmc-service.nl/Uk/Index_Uk.htm
> 
> A 10 hp increase for $90 in our car, would be a great addition.  
> Please let me know if anyone has experience with this.  Thanks.
> -chris-

-- 
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NEU: Mit GMX ins Internet. Rund um die Uhr für 1 ct/ Min. surfen!




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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 07:28:54 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time)
From: "Paul Salsbury" <paul.salsbury_at_dml_ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: DMC Service Cat Replacement?

Martin G has just fitted one to his first car I believe...Martin?

Paul
#6463
 
-------Original Message-------
 
> From: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
> Date: 23 October 2002 04:18:19
> To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DML] DMC Service Cat Replacement?
 >
> Has anybody tried this pipe to replace the cat on their DeLorean? I 
> was wondering if it really gives a 10 hp increase, and if this can 
> actually be felt. In case you haven't seen it, here is the link:
> http://www.dmc-service.nl/Uk/Index_Uk.htm
>
> A 10 hp increase for $90 in our car, would be a great addition. 
> Please let me know if anyone has experience with this. Thanks.
> -chris-



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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 08:14:59 -0000
From: "jamesrguk" <James_rg_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re:Delorean leather seat covers..... I have to challenge this one

List & Chris P

I have to challenge the..

.....and the identical vinyl is completely unavailable, again "near 
matches" are possible.

Whilst at the NEC last year I rummaged throught every trim stands 
vynle selection and found the exact, yes exact same vinyle used on 
the seats and also the same vinyle used on the interior trim. 
This stuff was identical, I recovered my door trim (the bit at the 
rear of the door) and you would think it was OEM, same pattern, same 
colour.

But can I remember the company I brought it from, I have trouble 
remembering what day it is :-( but it is definately out there 
somwhere.

I will have a search at the NEC next month if I make it up there, I 
also have a local contact who trims up yachts who may be able to 
sorce a roll of the stuff for me.

James RG




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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 04:25:56 -0400
From: "mgutkowski_at_dml_cix.co.uk" <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: RE: DMC Service Cat Replacement?

Hi Chris

I replaced my cat with Ed Uding's pipe this summer when I did my manifold
gaskets. The difference is very noticable (and I removed the cold air
intake valve too). My exhaust even pops and gurgles a little bit when hot
now showing how much more easily it is breathing (and that it probably
needs its mixture setting up again!).

It's not just the restrictin of the catalyst that causes loss of power -
the outlet port of the cat is surprisingly small too.

With the cat removed the engine has noticably more torque and the pick up
in 3rd at 50mph is a lot of fun. This car will never be great from a
standing start with the stock ratios, but midrange is definitely improved.

NB removing the cat would be illegal in many US states. Here in the UK the
car's too old to have required a cat when manufactured, so it can be
removed and still pass the MOT test.

Martin
#1458
#4426



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Has anybody tried this pipe to replace the cat on their DeLorean?  

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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 07:57:42 -0400
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>
Subject: RE: door strut mount bending?!

Check the archives on this one..   Sometime in July there was a discussion on the DML about this.

The door struts that DMCH sells have a longer body (and shorter rod) than the stock (and the ones the other vendors sell) which can possibly bend and even break the lower ball mount.

I noticed this again at the Fall Foliage tour last weekend.  Cars with the DMCH struts had bent lower mounts, one was even broken and loose (VERY dangerous!)  On that particular car, the screw on ball stud had somehow loosened up and was on it's "last thread" making the piston rod even longer.  When we lifted the door up a bit to pop the strut off (to thread the stud back on) it fell apart!

Rick Gendreau did a good evaluation of the door struts.  Contact him for the results.

Here was the message that DMCH (James) posted to the DML in response to this problem.  Now that I re-read it, I laugh at the "we've sold more than 1500 of these struts, and
have had three or four instances where the additional length was a problem" because I have seen at least 6 with my own eyes.  I laugh, but its not funny.  This is a serious problem and could result in personal injury.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/message/26857

There were a number of other messages about the same time that are worth reading.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: C. C. Cameron Putsch [mailto:putsch.1_at_dml_osu.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 11:51 AM
> To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DML] door strut mount bending?!
> 
> 
> I was wondering if anyone of you have noticed that the ball 
> mount for your door strut that mounts to the roof is bending 
> away from the strut under pressure. Is this a very bad thing, 
> meaning it will break in the future. Should I replace 
> something or modify it? 
> 
> Casey at putsch.1_at_dml_osu.edu



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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 08:49:02 EDT
From: doctorDHD_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: CV Boots & Delco Alternator replacement

Does anyone know if there is a replacement for the outer CV Boot?

I would prefer a split boot so I don't have to disassemble the whole thing.

Can a regular boot be "split" and sealed with something?


I have replace my alternator with the Delco 7157 and it works great 
electrically but somehow the belt seems a bit out of alignment and I see alot 
of "powdered belt" on the adjusting bracket.  I suspect the belt will fail 
soon.  Has anyone experienced this.  Does anyone have a solution?

Thanks
Dave
6530


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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 09:28:47 -0400
From: "mgutkowski_at_dml_cix.co.uk" <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Re: DMC Service Cat Replacement?

Hi Bill

I seem to remember a loooong time ago, someone else suggested this, but
it's not a great idea for several reasons:

1) You're busting an expensive stock item
2) making the exhaust flow more freely has a lot to do with the shape of
the pipe as well as the restrictions, and the cat "box" (s'cuse the pun) is
not exactly the right shape for a free flowing exhaust.
3) As I mentioned in my last post, the size of the outlet pipe on the cat
is quite strangled

I also forgot to metion that the bypass pipe from Ed is high quality and
personally I think $90 is more than reasonable.

Does anyone need a NOS cat with only 6000 miles on it? :-)))

Martin
#1458
#4426


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You can accomplish the same thing by simply removing the honeycomb
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 16:10:42 +0100
From: "Chris Parnham" <cp_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Re:Delorean leather seat covers..... I have to challenge this one

I wish you good luck James, but it is most likely that the stuff you bought
was also "old stock" .We do have a car trimmer in the club, he has a tiny
amount of original left and HE can't find a very near match...but good luck
any way.

Chris P DOC UK


-----Original Message-----
From: jamesrguk [mailto:James_rg_at_dml_hotmail.com]
Sent: 23 October 2002 09:15
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Re:Delorean leather seat covers..... I have to challenge
this one


List & Chris P

I have to challenge the..

.....and the identical vinyl is completely unavailable, again "near
matches" are possible.

Whilst at the NEC last year I rummaged throught every trim stands
vynle selection and found the exact, yes exact same vinyle used on
the seats and also the same vinyle used on the interior trim.
This stuff was identical, I recovered my door trim (the bit at the
rear of the door) and you would think it was OEM, same pattern, same
colour.





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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 09:35:30 -0500
From: id <ionicdesign_at_dml_execpc.com>
Subject: Re: DeLorean Stock Certificate for sale

[Moderator note: while the DML does allow people to express DeLorean-related opinions, I will not allow this to degenerate into a discussion of the value of stock certificates.  -moderator Mike Substelny]

a little pricey, i dont think so. it seems like strong arm robbery to me for that hefty
price tag of $1,995.00.

mark

Travis Goodwin wrote:

> A little pricey, but interesting nonetheless
>
> http://store.yahoo.com/scripophily/delmotcom.html



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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:34:51 -0400
From: "Rob Hook" <rob_hook_at_dml_cavtel.net>
Subject: Re: the old new DMC pictures

If you're referring to the Firestar 500, there was an article with a picture
in at least one newspaper at the time.  I found it on microfiche but the
only print-out I have of it is pretty bad.  I understand Road and Track
published the picture too and you may be able to find a better copy of that
one somewhere.  Check your local library.

--Rob
----- Original Message -----
From: "C. C. Cameron Putsch" <putsch.1_at_dml_osu.edu>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 11:53 AM
Subject: [DML] the old new DMC pictures


> Does anyone have or know where there are decent picutres of the OLD new
DMC that JZD wanted to build back in the 80's? It is the one that looks
similar to our cars only red I think and with an F40 type wing, etc.
>
> Casey at putsch.1_at_dml_osu.edu



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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:51:45 EDT
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: DMC ^2

In a message dated 10/23/02 5:22:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
powerpc_at_dml_spymac.com writes:

<< Why was his site www.deloreanmotorcompany.com sold to 
 DeLorean One?  >>
www.deloreanmotorcompany.com wasn't sold to De Lorean One.  You go to that 
site it takes you to DMC Houston.

Later,
Nick Pitello
1852
15914
<A HREF="Http://members.aol.com/njp548">Http://members.aol.com/njp548</A>



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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:56:11 EDT
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: door strut mount bending?!

[Moderator Note: This thread is heading into dangerous territory.  If you want to comment on a bad vendor experience, please supply your own first hand account and include your name.  Rumors about terrible things that happened to unnamed "other people" are a disservice to your fellow DMLers.  - moderator Mike Substelny]

In a message dated 10/23/02 5:22:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net writes:

<< It has been proven that a certain strut that was supplied by some 
 venders in the past caused the mounts to bend on some cars because it 
 was too long when the door closed.  >>

In the past?  I thought they still sold them and didn't tell the consumer 
that they are longer then they are supposed to be.  As a consumer, I feel 
they are negligent in doing this.  When you pay money for something from a 
Delorean vendor, you expect that to be the correct part.  Now we hear people 
saying their cars have the anchors bending from the added length to the 
piston.  What are they planning to do to rectify the situation?  

Later,
Nick Pitello
1852
15914
<A HREF="Http://members.aol.com/njp548">Http://members.aol.com/njp548</A>



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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 16:23:10 -0000
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: CV Boots & Delco Alternator replacement

Although I am sure you might be able to find something that may fit 
locally you are probably better off getting a part that you know will 
work from a Delorean vender. There is no way to "split" a boot and 
have it work. The split boots sold in the corner auto store do not 
function well, they are intended for the "backyard mechanic" who 
doesn't know what he is doing anyway. Besides if the boot is torn it 
is best to disassemble the joint, clean out the dirt and old grease 
and relubricate. A while back I think someone posted the procedure but 
 it should be in the Workshop Manual. It isn't that hard to remove the 
whole half-shaft and then put it on your bench (or the floor) and go 
at it. Make sure you carefully check ALL of the boots and replace any 
that are questionable. Don't skimp on this as a boot is ALOT cheaper 
then a joint!
 On the alternater if the pulleys are out of alignment ie, they are 
not parallel and in the same plane the belt will wear exessivly. The 
only cure is to try to get things lined up better either by eye or 
with a piece of string or a straightedge. Another cause could be the 
wrong pulley causing the belt to ride too high or too low on the 
pulley. A vee belt is not meant to touch on the "bottom" only the 
sides. If it is out of line the fan on the alternater could also be 
chewing the belt up. This is one of the pitfalls when you go out and 
get parts and try to make them fit, you now have to figure out what 
went wrong and spend more time and money correcting a fix that you 
already spent time and money on. If you bought from a "D" vender you 
would have his years of experience and support if the part he sold you 
didn't work. In this case you are on your own. Auto stores don't like 
electrical returns.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., doctorDHD_at_dml_a... wrote:
> Does anyone know if there is a replacement for the outer CV Boot?
> 
> I would prefer a split boot so I don't have to disassemble the whole 
thing.
> 
> Can a regular boot be "split" and sealed with something?
> 
> 
> I have replace my alternator with the Delco 7157 and it works great 
> electrically but somehow the belt seems a bit out of alignment and I 
see alot 
> of "powdered belt" on the adjusting bracket.  I suspect the belt 
will fail 
> soon.  Has anyone experienced this.  Does anyone have a solution?
> 
> Thanks
> Dave
> 6530
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 16:39:30 -0000
From: "Carson Clark" <cnsandog_at_dml_bellsouth.net>
Subject: Service question

I am getting ready to move to the Washington D.C. area.  Can anyone 
who lives or lived there recommend a good mechanic in that area?  
Part of my research I am doing as to how feasible it would be to get 
another DMC since I am not near Don out in Garden Grove any more.
Feel free to shoot me an email directly if you like.

Regards

Carson




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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 18:33:27 -0000
From: "media1524" <brentlun_at_dml_netrax.net>
Subject: Hello Everyone

Hello everyone, I am still reading the DML Archives but I wanted to 
finally introduce myself and get in on the discussion.  I have 
already met some of you.  My name is Brent Lundgren from York, 
Pennsylvania and I am the owner of VIN #17006, a 1983 Canadian model 
built in September 1982.  It has an automatic transmission, two-tone 
interior and an unusual stainless steel louver.  I purchased the car 
from Virginia Hodges of Baltimore on November 3, 2001.  She took good 
care of it and it shows.  I am a member of the Delorean Owners 
Association and Delorean Mid-Atlantic.  Rob Grady inspected the car 
at the March 2002 Delorean Mid-Atlantic Spring Social and made some 
recommendations.  I attended the Delorean Eastern Regional Car Show 
in Memphis and I believe I was parked next to James Espey in the 
second row on show day (he had the banner on the windshield).  I took 
home the second place trophy for cars with 50-75K mikes.  Due to a 
mix-up at the award ceremony, I took home the first place trophy and 
had to trade with Bruce Benson who was the real first place winner.  
I was at the Delorean Mid-Atlantic Fall Foliage Tour this weekend in 
NJ and had a great time even though we got lost and had to follow a 
Bricklin part of the way.  

While I'm here, I have a question:

Does anyone have any experience with the portable CD players that 
have the cassette adapter?  My original ASI radio still works but
I'd 
like to be able to play CDs without replacing the original radio.  
Comments?

Brent Lundgren
VIN #17006
brentlun_at_dml_netrax.net





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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 21:01:00 +0200
From: Jan van de Wouw <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>
Subject: Re: DMC Service Cat Replacement?

On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 23:21:13 -0000, "Chris " <dursman_at_dml_hotmail.com> wrote:

> Has anybody tried this pipe to replace the cat on their DeLorean?
> I was wondering if it really gives a 10 hp increase, and if this can
> actually be felt.  In case you haven't seen it, here is the link:
> http://www.dmc-service.nl/Uk/Index_Uk.htm
> 
> A 10 hp increase for $90 in our car, would be a great addition.
> Please let me know if anyone has experience with this.  Thanks.

I have had this pip on my car for more than a year now and am quite
happy with the results. Can't say if it really is 10hp, as I haven't
had any dyno testing done on my car, but the car DOES respond better.
On a side-note: I also removed the hot/cold air valve in the intake
to allow better breating on that end too AND I had a tuneup done
with the swap of the pipe.
The car sounds better (a bit throatier), and feels better, so I'm
happy. I know of several other people who have these on and I have
yet to hear anyone complain...

I still feel it was $90,- well spent, if this is legal in your state
(in The Netherlands cars before a certain date don't require a cat)
I'd say go for it!

Good luck,

JAN van de Wouw
Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

#05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000

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