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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1258
Date: Thursday, October 31, 2002 9:29 AM

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There are 5 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Want to dive DeLorean dump site.
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <>

2. EFI Delorean
From: "Darkstar" <>

3. RE: Rock star Games
From: "Chris Parnham" <>

4. Dump sites
From: "Quinn, Gary" <>

5. Re: Moderators and dies
From: Bob Brandys <>

Message: 1
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 04:46:11 -0000
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <>
Subject: Re: Want to dive DeLorean dump site.

I am not a professional diver but I think I know something about 
diving. If the dies are attached to nets I think it might be very 
dangerous to go near them because of the danger of entanglement. It 
would also be difficult to get a remote camera to them, same problem. 
Before even thinking about diving a lot of research needs to be done. 
How many dies, there is a male and female for each set, how big? what 
are the bottom conditions, weather, currents etc. Who placed them and 
where. Are there any markings on them for identifacation? You need 
to know what you are looking for and how it would appear so if you 
find it you know what you have.The list goes on and on. The point is 
you don't go in the water first without a lot of research first to 
minimize the high costs of an expedition and have a high probability 
of success. Ballard spent years doing research on some of the wrecks 
he has found and luck still has a lot to do with it. Don't be naieve, 
this could cost thousands of dollars and include a high level of 
personal risk, this is not a "day at the beach".
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., id <ionicdesign_at_dml_e...> wrote:
> i would think if the dies are in the water they do not belong to 
anybody because they
> have been abandoned for almost 20 years. isn't there a maritime law 
> abandonment of anything in water. what about the titanic does 
everything recovered
> belong to the passengers of the ship or the white star line? what 
about all of the gold


Message: 2
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:21:19 -0800
From: "Darkstar" <>
Subject: EFI Delorean

anyone remember the guy who put an efi sustem in a delorean.  i remember
that they didnt change the manifold cause they found injectors that fit
right in the holes.  any one have the site?



Message: 3
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 08:33:05 -0000
From: "Chris Parnham" <>
Subject: RE: Rock star Games

I have not been following all this thread, but I can definitely confirm that
I was contacted directly by Rock Star games early this year to see if I
could find them a DeLorean to buy in the UK.

 They said they were featuring one in their latest game.

 They wanted one for publicity purposes and were then thinking on giving it
away as a prize.  After a few exchanges of emails, it all fizzled out.

Best Regards

Chris P   DOC UK   BTTF. 20049......still not running!

-----Original Message-----
From: Montgomery Gabrys []
Sent: 30 October 2002 20:28
Subject: [DML] misinformation

re:"> This "rumor" was not incorrect and you are the only one spreading
> misinformation. Rockstar did approach us about licensing the use of
the> logo for use in that game, which we declined for several reasons."



Message: 4
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:23:03 -0000
From: "Quinn, Gary" <>
Subject: Dump sites

	Howz about this, 
I will get theDies if somebody "donates" me there Delorean.

This is a private email and not connected to the department in anyway.


Message: 5
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:51:12 -0600
From: Bob Brandys <>
Subject: Re: Moderators and dies

I agree that the dies should be recovered.  

I for one do not drive my delorean on a regular basis because of the 
fear of having it damaged and the costly and slow repair process.  Some 
kid dropped a battery on my left from fender.  I have been waiting for 3 
months for the Paintless Dent Removal guy to show up to fix the dents.

If replacement body panels were inexpensive and easy to get,  I would 
drive my car alot more.  

I am sure other D drives would do the same.  This visibility would 
really improve the value and desirability of this classic modernistic 
car design.

Even if the dies are somewhat corroded most of that can be repaired. 
 Even temporary patches can be installed for the limited production that 
would be necessary.  We do not need 10,000 left from fender..

Reproducting a few thousand would be plenty.  

If we do not do this our cars will eventually all become museum pieces 
to expensive and risky to drive. How many 300 SL gullwings do you see 
driving every day.?  There was 5,000 of these made,  and they all have 
virtually disappeared. Same thing with the Dodge Superbird and 
Superbees.  The rubber front noses are over $10,000 so nobody drives 
them any more.

We have the SS frames now, (thanks to Pierce Engineering) once we have 
the dies, only the body mold and back into production :-)



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