From: <>
To: <>
Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1280
Date: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 6:11 AM

To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address:

To search the archives or view files, log in at

There are 12 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Martin G's Factory Spec Rebuild
From: "content22207" <>

2. Delorean For Sale
From: "David Teitelbaum" <>

3. Re: binnacle recover in NJ
From: "silverdelorean2002" <>

4. Grand Delusions
From: "" <>

5. 81 DMC-12 For Sale
From: "media1524" <>

6. More Painted metalworks pictures
From: "Jeff Angwin" <>

7. Re: Setting Fuelling - Why does the DMC PRV Hunt? [long]
From: "Shain Brannan" <>

8. I finally got JZD's autograph!

9. MOMO Hub
From: "Classified" <>

10. Re: Martin G's Factory Spec Rebuild
From: Martin Gutkowski <>

11. Pittman Delorean Parts?
From: "erikgeerdink" <>

12. More fuel sender
From: "sonnyvr2000" <>

Message: 1
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 04:18:46 -0000
From: "content22207" <>
Subject: Martin G's Factory Spec Rebuild

Is #4426 concours? If not, why rebuild the engine to factory spec? I'd
think you'd be happier with higher compression and/or a more
aggressive cam.

I'm beginning to suspect my Volvo re-engine may be a bit more
pedestrian than JZD's. Does your PRV man have any references to ID
just what I've got behind me? 

FWIW: great success so far idling off the upper air assembly bypass
screws (no hunting there). May be cantankerous this winter until
warmed up -- we'll see.

Bill Robertson


Message: 2
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 04:36:45 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum" <>
Subject: Delorean For Sale

I lost the E-mail address of someone who was interested in a Delorean 
for sale.  If he or anyone else is interested it is an 82, grey, 
5-speed. 35,000 miles always garaged so no sun damage or frame rot. It 
does need a lot though. A short list includes struts all around, 
headliners, seats, brakes, a lot of cleaning inside and out, a few 
minor dings, cracked sunshade, horn, windshield (it got cracked when 
something fell on it in the garage). It just got new clutch cylinders 
but not the clutch line. It needs a tune-up and probably a water pump 
and hoses. It is going to go for about $8,500. The owner is geting a 
new title to replace the lost one so it can't be bought for about 2 
weeks when he gets the replacement. Contact me off-list if anyone is 
interested. The car is located about 30 minutes north of the George 
Washington Bridge in New York. This is the second owner having bought 
it in 85 in Texas with 3,000 miles. It has been sitting for the past 
7+ years but the motor does start up and it seems to have all of it's 
gears but I wouldn't trust the brakes. Figure after buying it will 
need at least $2,000 in parts alone right away but it can be cleaned 
up and be very nice. It has all of the late 82 features like a flat 
hood with emblem, flared tailpipes, and power antennae.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757
E-mail at 


Message: 3
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 14:40:53 -0000
From: "silverdelorean2002" <>
Subject: Re: binnacle recover in NJ

Thanks Kevin for the compliments. Hopefully I will see you at Daves 
house the next time you come down. I coudnt make it last time. As the 
interior. What I did was dissasemble the entire interior of my car. 
When i got my car it was severely sun damaged. IT was all faded and 
burnt and looked like crap. If you notice most interiors on deloreans 
have faded intereriors. Even ones that werent in the sun all that 
long. Take a look at the different panels in the interior such as the 
color of the binnacle and the dash for example. You can see the 
difference in the gray colors. MOst of the time the gray turns 
brownish over time. In almost every delorean I have seen with grady 
interiors the grady parts of the interior dont match each other. Now 
for what I did. I took every panel out of my interior. The kneepads 
the ccenter console, the glove compartment, seats, carpets, dash, 
binaccle, rear armrest pads etc. There was nothing left in my car 
excpet of bunch of wires.(it was scary) After everything was out I 
had time to inspect the panels and compared the colors of gray in 
all. Everyone was a different color gray. Reason is because different 
types of vinyl were used on the panels and they fade differntly over 
time. It was hard to get a color match of the gray. Now for the dye. 
I went seaching the archives for somone else who dyed a part in their 
car. I noticed one guy who said that Plasti-kote 408 was a spot on 
match and that Plasti-kote not like other dyes will not chip or peel 
or crack. I didnt believe it so i went and bought a can and dyed one 
piece. It looked great and the gray matched exactly to orginal gray 
of teh binnacle when you order a new one from DMC houston. THe next 
test was to see if it cracked or peeled. I waited a day even though 
it dries in 10 mins. I tried scratching and peeling it it it woudnt 
come off. Its great stuff. The key is to CLEAN the vinyl with hot 
water and detergent and get off any armor-all or crud or oils off of 
the panels or the dye wont work. After that spray around 5 LIGHT 
coats of dye and wait til it dries. I did that for every part of my 
car. It now looks better than new. If anyone wants i can put before 
and after pictures up on the web. Let me know if anyones interested. 
Thanks again kevin.



Message: 4
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:57:14 -0500
From: "" <>
Subject: Grand Delusions

I got told of a DeLorean book that I had not heard of before. I've just
looked it up on Amazon and sure enough there it is:

John De Lorean : the maverick mogul
by Hillel Levin

Does anyone know if this is the same book as Grand Delusions as it is by
the same author? They have different ASIN numbers.


mail2web - Check your email from the web at .


Message: 5
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 16:02:46 -0000
From: "media1524" <>
Subject: 81 DMC-12 For Sale

Attention All,

In the November 29 edition of "Cars By Dealers", there is a 1981 
DeLorean for sale at Wenger Pontiac GMC in Quarryville, PA.  The ad 
says 4,682 mi. and one-owner.  The photo shows the wide black trim 
stripe on the side and fender mounted radio antenna.  The interior 
looks grey in the photo.  Asking price is $18,950.  I will know more 
when I go look at it.

Brent Lundgren
VIN #17006


Message: 6
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:57:04 -0800
From: "Jeff Angwin" <>
Subject: More Painted metalworks pictures

Speaking of painted Delorean metal works... I just picked up my Delorean
from Delorean Motor Center, who just finished a major frame restoration and
engine detailing. They replaced my rusted frame with a sandblasted, and
powder coated one, and detailed many engine parts to match the new maroon

Pictures are posted at my website at:

(I also took some pics of a Pearce Automotive stainless frame that is in the
process of being installed... they are posted too!)

Along the way, Delorean Motor Center completely redid the suspension,
replacing all of the bushings, and installing Grady shocks and springs. It's
a whole new car! No more creaks, rattles and bumps, and it handles like a
dream. Overall, they did an excellent job!

Jeff Angwin
VIN 3034

-----Original Message-----
From: []
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 12:45 PM
Subject: [DML] valve cover pic

Hey all,

i just had my valve covers and control pressure regulator glassbeaded and
painted. check out the pic under 'intake manifold' in the files section - i
had them done the same way i had the intake and themostat housing.

1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102


Message: 7
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 18:10:21 -0000
From: "Shain Brannan" <>
Subject: Re: Setting Fuelling - Why does the DMC PRV Hunt? [long]


  This is a subjest that i'm very intrested in.  Eveyrtime that i go 
to a DeLorean event i see at least a half dozen cars start up, and 
do the idle hunt described.  Being that i had/ have a low mileage 
car (7k when i got it, 10 k now) i never ever had a hunting 
problem.  I currently run a porshe cis system on my car, but it 
mimics the the orgional almost to a tee with some exceptions.  The 
one reason why i belive (belive being the key word, not experience 
just based off all the knowledge i learned during the switch) has to 
to largely with vacumm leaks, bad or dirty O2 sensors and 
adjustments.  I have notcied that a large majority of cars that had 
water pumps replaced properly, did not have a a hunting problem.  
The oring seals that mate with the manifold shrink over time and 
could become a potential vacumm leak, also upon re assemble of the 
engine all the fuel meter or rings become replaced as well (if done 
correcty.  My car when i first bought it was a low mileage garged 
vehicle, but i found small cracks in my vacumn lines all of which i 
replaced.  I stress alot of vacumn problem, but there is a really 
good reason to.  If you have a small leak, if/when you adjust your 
idle it would be off a good amount.  Also vacumn is nessary to run 
the warm up regulator, and a certain amount of vacumn is nessary to 
open the delay side (i believe).  All of this has influences on the 
idle and fuel fixtures.  These are just some things i have notcied 
in the past, wether you belive them or not.

- Shain


Message: 8
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 19:51:34 EST
Subject: I finally got JZD's autograph!

Hey list,
    Today I finally recieved my DMC-12 prototype postcard back that I sent to 
John DeLorean to sign for me.  Under it was a nice note and his autograph.  I 
bought a cool chrome frame for it and placed my DeLorean large brochure in 
with it.  It is now the centerpiece of my DeLorean collection.  Needless to 
say today I am a happy man!

Long live the DMC!

VIN:   Soon I hope


Message: 9
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 01:32:11 -0000
From: "Classified" <>
Subject: MOMO Hub

Hello everyone,

Here is the answer that many of you might appriciate. The other day 
I was rolling through e-Bay minding my own business when I stumbled 
on a MOMO Hub. The add said, for any vehicle. Well, I bid and I won. 
Next day I got a polite e-mail asking me for the vehicle year and 
type. In return I wrote: 1981 Delorean. So next day I expected to 
see another e-mail asking for more info or my money back or 
something but in return the e-mail said: your item has been shipped. 

I was kinda surprised, thinking, yeah right, I want to see this one. 
I spent about $60 on the brand new hub w/ hardware...anyways, 
yesterday I get the box. I opened it, look inside..very nice hub. 
Here comes the hard part. I already took the wheel off of the 
Delorean soooooo, I put the hub on the shaft and holly sh*t!!!!!  It 
fits perfectly!

So the nice guy I am here it is, its the part# 2401. The HUB its 
self says " K 2401 ". Crowder's Customizing 843-452-9294. They have 
a website also with the same name .com.

Hope this will help, I know there were alot of inquiries in 
reference to this update, I hope this will help.

take care,

Ski VIN 4649


Message: 10
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 00:27:25 +0000
From: Martin Gutkowski <>
Subject: Re: Martin G's Factory Spec Rebuild

Hi Bill

What kind of info are you looking for?

I had the chance to go for a few more horses in the new lump but decided against it. I
have my reasons and may well take on the engine in #1458 later on to make it more fun.



content22207 wrote:

> Is #4426 concours? If not, why rebuild the engine to factory spec? I'd
> think you'd be happier with higher compression and/or a more
> aggressive cam.
> I'm beginning to suspect my Volvo re-engine may be a bit more
> pedestrian than JZD's. Does your PRV man have any references to ID
> just what I've got behind me?


Message: 11
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 19:49:31 -0000
From: "erikgeerdink" <>
Subject: Pittman Delorean Parts?

Does anyone know if this dealer is still around?  Located Indiana?



Message: 12
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 03:27:28 -0000
From: "sonnyvr2000" <>
Subject: More fuel sender

I ordered a fuel sender from Delorean Motor Company in Texas today, 
Warren seems to think I will have it by Wednesday. Claims it's really easy to 
install and invited me to call him back if I have any questions. Thanks to Mark, 
John, Ken, Fred, Dave, and the others who wrote with advice. I'll keep the list 
posted on how it goes.



Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to