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Date: Friday, November 29, 2002 6:56 AM

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There are 13 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: DeLorean Car Show Magazine
From: id <>

2. Re: 1983 Kepec Model
From: "Dave Swingle" <>

3. RE: 1983 Kepec Model
From: "IN2TIME" <>

4. RE: TAB report
From: "K Creason" <>

5. DeLorean parts on eBay.
From: "therealdmcvegas" <>

6. Re: Re: hydraulic fluid seeps

7. Gold Sunstars
From: "Chris Parnham" <>

8. Re: Re: DeLorean Car Show Magazine review (

9. Removing the ignition switch,from the steering shaft
From: "fivetwofive" <>

10. Re: 1983 Kepec Model

11. Re: 1983 Kepec Model
From: "Brian McCool" <>

12. Re: Delorean Financing website update.
From: "dandan67" <>

13. best way to drop drive axles?

Message: 1
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 21:25:25 -0600
From: id <>
Subject: Re: DeLorean Car Show Magazine

couldn't you just make a link on your website to accept paypal payments that way you can
accept payments easier, faster and safer? mailing in a payment can be slow and sometimes
can get lost, with paypal you could ship the magazine the next day because you would
have the payment for the subscription now.

mark wrote:

> Well we are about a week away from printing the first issue of DeLorean Car
> Show Magazine.


Message: 2
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 03:48:33 -0000
From: "Dave Swingle" <>
Subject: Re: 1983 Kepec Model

Kepec = Kapac. Kapac was the part of Sol Shenk's Consolidated 
Industries (Columbus Ohio) that ended up with the assets of the DMC 
Corporation after bankrupcy. Consolidated actualy loaned DMC money, 
using the cars and assets as collateral. They oversaw the assembly of 
the final (all 1983-model) cars built after DMC was closed down. 
Kapac ended up with all the parts etc. that were then purchased by 
DMC-Houston a couple of years ago. 

BTW - I talked to this seller - he is indeed selling the car for a 
friend and does not know much about it (or what a 5000-mile DMC is 
worth, apparently). His ad is also posted at

Dave Swingle

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Bill" <bill221_at_dml_h...> wrote:
> Hello,
> There is an auction on for a 1983 Delorean "Kepec" model.  
> Does anyone know what this means?  I couldn't find anything 
> the archive.  I think there might be a connection between this term 
> and the fact that it was one of last cars produced.  I just don't 
> know...
> Thanks
> Bill
> Excerpt:
> This is probably the finest example of a DeLorean in North America! 
> am selling this car for a friend. It is one of the last DeLorean's 
> made and is a "Kepec".


Message: 3
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 19:56:22 -0800
From: "IN2TIME" <>
Subject: RE: 1983 Kepec Model

  >auction on for a 1983 DeLorean "Kepec" model

Try searching for "by consolidated" (with the quotes).
The short version is that Consolidated "became" KAPAC. Then DMCH bought
the inventory.



Message: 4
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2002 23:00:24 -0600
From: "K Creason" <>
Subject: RE: TAB report

My TABs were ok. They were straight and the lines looked clean (no visible
However: my big fat washers on the pass. side were a bit messed up. On the
head side, the one closest to the frame was concussed and the insides of the
hole were mushroomed in to the bolt so that it wasn't easy to move off. I
think it must have been moving a little, banging and compressing it.
I flipped them all around and put them back in. I wish the TAB's came with
new washers so that I could have saved them out and taken pictures. (I was
too grimy to go hunting the camera).
BTW- I wasn't happy about the funky head until I sat down and tried all my
sockets and found that the 3/4 star bit (our whatever you call the ones that
are not octagonal) fit like a bug in a rug. Then I was quite pleased.
I took her out for spin, squealing tire corners and everything; I had
nothing from the back end except an occasional light whoomp. So that must
have been my clunking though no one could find it.
Thanks Darryl, Thanks Toby.


-----Original Message-----
From: Toby Peterson []
Subject: [DML] Re: hydraulic fluid seeps

Let us know (if you don't mind) about the condition of
your TAB's, and associated bushings and other hardware.

Toby Peterson  VIN 2248


Message: 5
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 05:26:52 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <>
Subject: DeLorean parts on eBay.

Recently I've been following the auctions on eBay, and have noticed an 
increase of the amount of parts that are being auctioned off. Is it just me
, or is anyone else alarmed by this at all? Aside from parts/repair availability, the biggest peice of mind for my car has been theft. After all, if it was stolen to be stripped, where would someone be able to sell parts? Now that I see at aleast 2 cars being parted out on eBay right now, I don't feel quite as "safe" in that respect. In otherwords, it would totally suck if my car was stolen, stripped, and sold off in pieces on eBay. This appears to very much be a reality now. Granted whenever I remove a panel, or replace a part, I always write my name, the date, my signature, and any message that comes to mind in either permanent marker, or a paint pen (when it comes to the # of times I've written my name, I'm almost running neck and neck with "chaka"). It was for fun at first to add to the "cave paintings" underneath, but now I do it mainly as a security precaution in the same way that newer vehicles have tamper-proof stickers with their VIN #'s attached to the body panels.

There are many auto security systems available, so i will be installing a new 
one. The one that came with it doesn't work. My dome lights flash, the clearance lights are on a delay, and the doors don't always unlock. I can't 
imagine what the person installing it was thinking... And of course there is the inertia switch. In the mean time though, I think that it would be a good idea to first verify parts sources for online auctions and sales before buying. That way if either thru the DOD, or even DMCH the VIN_at_dml_ could be checked against a list of cars that were reported stolen/vandalized. If someone started parting 
out a Ferrarri, Lamborgini, or other exotic, I'm sure that quite a few questions
would be asked. Going upon past eBay scams involving DeLorean cars, and 
the sudden increase in parts for sale, I've just started to become uneasy about 
things. You'd also be surprised by the auctions that pop-up time to time that 
you don't see because people keep mispelling the word, "DeLorean".

Just my .2, and now I'm done.

vin 6585 "X"


Message: 6
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 01:13:05 EST
Subject: Re: Re: hydraulic fluid seeps

Kevin, With no opposing force to make the clutch disk slip, I doubt you could 
tell if it was slipping with wheels off the ground. I would say to a trained 
mechanic, it would be hard to tell if the clutch was slipping. When on the 
ground your trying to move about 3000 LB's with a person in the car. 
When you put the car in gear and let out on the clutch pedal, you would feel 
it slip before it goes. Another way would be, the further you have to push 
down on the clutch pedal to dis engage the transmission. 
When you put in a new clutch and compare to the old one, you'll really see 
what I mean.
John Hervey 

<< I noticed that with the back end up, wheels off, engine running in neutral,
 that the hubs actually spin a bit, but not totally steady (or, maybe that
 was my junior mechanic pumping the brakes). Is that normal, is that signs of
 a worn clutch?


Message: 7
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 12:00:27 -0000
From: "Chris Parnham" <>
Subject: Gold Sunstars

Am I the first person in the "western World" to own a Gold Sun Star

Well I was stocking up with regular, Sun Star models at my importers in
England, to be ready for the Christmas rush, when a young assistant said "
we are just unpacking the Gold cars, do you want any?!!!!

What do you think!!!  I bought 6!

I've had a good look at the car and its generally very good.
My recent research for my new book has made something of an expert on the
Gold plating of the original two ( plus one) cars.  I can reveal that the
match is very good.

If I was being picky, when I compare my original piece of "Bridge of Weir"
brown leather, ( Colour match 7D7) to the model, the model is slightly too
"light" brown in colour, but not too bad.

The exhaust trims are also wrong, comparing it to an original gold one I
have,   they should be round, polished stainless steel, and gold plated. The
model has angled one's, with a silver look.

A bit of a coup for the UK club!

Please don't ask for supplies of these outside the UK, we are only a small
club and just cant handle "selling abroad".  Your own vendors should be
getting them soon.

Best regards

Chris Parnham


Message: 8
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 08:42:48 EST
Subject: Re: Re: DeLorean Car Show Magazine review (

Angela loved the plug :-) 
Next magazine I am going to try to put Katherine on the cover 
I have asked her for a pic.


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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 15:24:20 -0000
From: "fivetwofive" <>
Subject: Removing the ignition switch,from the steering shaft

Ok,here is one that has me stumped.
How do I remove the ignition switch(the key lock ignition switch 
p/n106679) from the steering column shaft?
Not the process on how to get to it to remove it,that part was not a 
problem,But to acutally,remove it OFF the steering column shaft,it 
seems to have two huge rivits (or some kind of special bolts)that 
attach it directly to the steering shaft.Do these have to be drilled 
out to remove the ignition switch,and then how do you reattach them.

Thank in advance


Message: 10
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 11:12:52 EST
Subject: Re: 1983 Kepec Model


I would assume that this car was one of the last ones (83's) that were 
purchased by Kapac (Consolidated International) when DMC went into 
receivership.  At this point Kapac purchased all of DMC's inventory - 
including unsold cars.  Kapac then sold the remaining DeLoreans at approx 
$22,000 a piece.  I have a video clip from this time where an Entertainment 
Tonight-type show interviewed the owner/director of Kapac.  They also pan the 
Kapac lot showing over a hundred DeLoreans unsold in the background.  There's 
nothing super-rare about a "Kapac car".  

An interesting note - my car is VIN 11596, build date of Jan 1982.  In my 
paperwork for the car i have some Kapac documents outlining warranty 
information for my car including a buisness card for Kapac employee Donald L. 
Bowman.  On the top of the document in typewriter type is "Chesrown 
Oldsmobile-GMC Columbus OH."  The document then goes to say that the Issuer 
of the Warranty is DeLorean Motor Car, distributed by Consolidate 
International.   the next page is more warranty information for a 1 yr/12K 
mile insured service contract.  again it says by DeLorean motor car 
distributed by Consolidated International.  the delivery date of my car was 

Anyone have any idea why a car that was built in Jan of 1982 didn't get 
delivered to the owner until April 1983?  anyone have any idea where the car 
was for a year? was it seriously on a dealer lot that long, and then Kapac 
bought it and sold it to the first owner?  I'd be interested in anyone's 
thoughts pertaining to this!!

1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102


Message: 11
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 11:18:51 -0600
From: "Brian McCool" <>
Subject: Re: 1983 Kepec Model

I believe the guy on Ebay means "Kapac", which is what Consolidated
International, the company that had the remaining spare parts and some of
the last Deloreans sold, turned into.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill" <>
Subject: [DML] 1983 Kepec Model
> Hello,
> There is an auction on for a 1983 Delorean "Kepec" model.


Message: 12
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 17:46:21 -0000
From: "dandan67" <>
Subject: Re: Delorean Financing website update.

> Like many others who saw a glimmer of hope for getting our own D.

Jeff, a few weeks ago I financed mine though JJ Best & Co out of 
Chatham MA. It was a slam dunk and only took two days. I insured 
through (equally painless) at the advice of a DMC fan 
page. My favorite so far has been the $15/yr. registration fee in CA - 
who would have thought ANYTHING would be so cheap in this state? :)

Dan Danknick


Message: 13
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 14:18:04 EST
Subject: best way to drop drive axles?

Hey all,

soon i intend on dropping my drive shafts for boot service and to clean the 
CV joints and repack them.  is this best done:

1. with the car lifted up and the suspension hanging
2. with the car lifted up and the wheels jacked up to simulate load.

any tips out there, i would appreciate it before i begin.

i have been doing quite a bit of 'little things' on my car so far this 
winter.  i finished a valve adjustment this month which included getting the 
valve covers and control pressure regulator glassbeaded and painted.  they 
look excellent!  i also removed my muffler and polished the tips ('82 style), 
replaced all the bolts and washers for the mounting brackets, and had the two 
main brackets glassbeaded and painted black.  we'll see how long that lasts!  
i also removed my catalytic converter (which happened to be hollowed out by a 
previous owner, and i just discovered that when i got the thing out!!) and am 
installing the eliminator pipe from Ed Uding.  i just need some hardware for 
that i'm ready to go. also purchased the K&N kit from Marty Maier. Right now 
i removed my engine compartment crossbrace, the bracket that holds the 
ignition resistors to the firewall, and the bracket that holds the 
diagnositic plug to the head, i had all three of those glassbeaded and they 
are currently at the powdercoaters getting coated black.

after i get this done, then i will do my driveshafts, followed by a steering 
rebuild with a rebuilt steering rack, new tie rod ends, and a new 
intermediate shaft from Darryl Tinnerstet.  then.......... well then i need 
to think about what i will eventually do with my frame!  

why does winter have to last so long and why is it only the end of november? 
i want to drive!

1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102

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