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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1313
Date: Friday, December 20, 2002 4:03 AM

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There are 16 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. One More Rear Ended Question
From: "Mike" <mquinto_at_dml_attbi.com>

2. Re: BTTF video release
From: Nick Ryan <nick_at_dml_imagenow.ie>

3. Re: Rear ended
From: "Harold McElraft <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>" <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>

4. Re: Rear ended
From: "David Teitelbaum <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

5. RE: BTTF video release
From: "IN2TIME" <Gary_at_dml_IN2TIME.com>

6. Rear ended
From: "Mike" <mquinto_at_dml_attbi.com>

7. BTTF boosted intrested in the car?
From: john fredt <hecklerkochgmbh_at_dml_yahoo.com>

8. BTTF DVD Mis-framed (and fix)
From: "mlick27 <mlick27_at_dml_yahoo.com>" <mlick27_at_dml_yahoo.com>

9. Insurance upgrade offer.
From: "mlick27 <mlick27_at_dml_yahoo.com>" <mlick27_at_dml_yahoo.com>

10. Re: Making Good Impressions Of Our Car...
From: RJRavalli_at_dml_AOL.com

11. "DUHHH!!!!" at the gas pump
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>

12. Printable Flyer (Was - Making Good Impressions Of Our Car...)
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>

13. BTTF.com and DVD release
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>

14. Re: Making Good Impressions Of Our Car...
From: <eric_at_dml_seviernet.com>

15. Re: BTTF Widescreen DVD.
From: Farrar Hudkins <fhudkins_at_dml_uno.edu>

16. Magazine comments
From: kkoncelik_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 20:41:11 -0800
From: "Mike" <mquinto_at_dml_attbi.com>
Subject: One More Rear Ended Question

I forgot to ask, when you had to replace the fascia did you color match what
was on there before. And did you have to repaint the front fascia to match
the rear? Should I demand they paint the front fascia the same color.
Because the paint on my fascias aren't original colors. My front has
scratches and a few small chips. It definitely won't look right.

Regards,
Still Angry Mike
Vin#1113





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Message: 2
Date: 19 Dec 2002 10:27:32 +0000
From: Nick Ryan <nick_at_dml_imagenow.ie>
Subject: Re: BTTF video release

It seems to me some of you guys just take our beloved cars a little TOO Seriously. How ridiculous is a class action suit against the makers of a TV program because they make fun of the car. BIG DEAL, get over it, it's just their opinion. It's not going to devalue the car because some mediocre American TV channel decides to take the mickey out of it. Also You can't seem to win with the BTTF argument. Some hate references to the car through the film, for others it's obviously a reason to own a Delorean. But to start giving out about the packaging is crazy. The film is NOT about Deloreans. Try watching it sometime.

Nick

#16045
Dublin Ireland

On 12/18/02 12:36 AM, edherrma <edherrmann_at_dml_yahoo.com> <edherrmann_at_dml_yahoo.com> wrote:
>Did anyone look at the new BTTF package,it looks terrible. You can't 
>
>even see the delorean except something that looks like our door. 
>I 
>have the 3 VCD version of BTTF from overseas and that looks like 
>the 
>original release version and that looks great. You can see the 
>delorean. But this one looks like they went out of their way not 
>to 
>show it on the package. Maybe they wanted to avoid paying royalties 
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>to Mr Delorean. But the whole move revolves around a Delorean time 
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>machine. Anyone agree that it was choped up. Ed 
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 13:44:29 -0000
From: "Harold McElraft <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>" <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Re: Rear ended

Mike

Let Don do it for sure. He has experience dealing with insurance 
companies. He is one of the best so he can advise you too. By the 
way, have him put a high-line light on for you. That's extra 
protection and more brake light for those behind you to see.

Harold McElraft - 3354




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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 15:06:14 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Rear ended

I hope you are OK and were not injured. As bad as it may seem to have 
your car hurt it can be fixed a lot easier than you can! To get 
insurance you have to deal with a company that is licensed in your 
State so even if you never heard of a particular insurance company 
they should be allright having to pass muster with the State to be 
licensed and able to do business within the state.
 My advice to you would be to tell your insurance company about it but 
file it only as a report and not a claim (assuming ther was no bodily 
injury to you or lost time). You also must report it to the State if 
it exceeds a certain amount. Now since you were hit in the rear go to 
the other car's insurance and file your claim with them. Doing this 
avoids your deductible and can sometimes speed things up. When the car 
gets inspected (adjusted) make sure to educate the appraiser and have 
him verify all his parts, labor, etc, with a Delorean vender. If you 
are close to one (a Delorean vender) the best thing would be to have 
it inspected there. Then they can come to an "agreed upon" repair 
price. After everything gets done install a 3rd brake light on the 
rear louvre to try to prevent this from happening again and always 
make sure all of your taillights and brake lights are functioning!
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <mquinto_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> Hello list,
> My worst fear happened, REAR ENDED!
> So far I have the total up to $1,974.00 in replacement parts. And it 
doesn't
> include nuts, bolts, discontinued exhaust bracket, paint and labor. 
He's
> insured but I never heard of Superior Insurance group.
> 
> I'm sure this situation has happened to others. Did anyone have to 
hassle
> with THEIR insurance companies? Did they refuse to cover any damages 
because
> of being a DeLorean? Did you have your work done at a DeLorean 
facility?
> 
> I'm about 30 miles from Don Steger, I want him to make repairs.
> Any advice would greatly be appreciated.
> 
> Regards,
> Angry Mike
> Vin#1113




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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 07:45:21 -0800
From: "IN2TIME" <Gary_at_dml_IN2TIME.com>
Subject: RE: BTTF video release

<SNIP> It seems to me some of you guys just take our beloved cars a
little TOO Seriously. How ridiculous is a class action suit against the
makers of a TV program because they make fun of the car. </SNIP>

It seems to me that some of you guys just take comments made on our
beloved DML a little TOO Seriously. The "Class Action Lawsuit" comment
was followed by a Smiley Face, which I added to indicate that I wasn't
serious about the comment.

HAVE FUN

Gary
www.IN2TIME.com




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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 10:11:59 -0800
From: "Mike" <mquinto_at_dml_attbi.com>
Subject: Rear ended

Hello,
I talked to my insurance company AAA and they were really nice. They are
taking care of contacting his insurance company and reporting to the DMV.
They even called Don's for me and set me up for a Monday drop off. And he
told me I won't have to pay my $500. deductible since it was his fault.
Then I call Don's after I hung up with him and asked about painting. He told
me that yes they would have to repaint the front fascia to match. So I'll
get the color back to its close original paint spec.
And the free flowing exhaust would be nice, I'll see what I can do.
Anyway it can't be worse than what Don told me. They have another DeLorean
coming in that a garage fell on it.
Thanks Everyone for your advice,

Calmed Down Mike
Vin#1113





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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 11:34:12 -0800 (PST)
From: john fredt <hecklerkochgmbh_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: BTTF boosted intrested in the car?


 
It seems to me that the release on dvd hasnt generated anymore awareness than usual.People are still pretty much convinced that John DeLorean was a coke dealer (those who remember him anyway) ,its hard to change peoples minds.You cant seem to pry someones attention away from their television for 5 minutes anymore,even is the car in bttf is parked outside.
 
 



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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 19:58:56 -0000
From: "mlick27 <mlick27_at_dml_yahoo.com>" <mlick27_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: BTTF DVD Mis-framed (and fix)

Hello-

I don't have the DVDs yet (hopefully, they're wrapped and sitting 
under a tree w/ my name on it) but a few people alerted me that 
Universal has admitted that Parts II and III have been mis-framed on 
the DVD widescreen release.  You're probably thinking "Whoa, this is 
heavy!"  There are many threads about it on the discussion boards at 
bttf.com, but someone named "Prizm" posted a mini-faq here: 
http://www.bttf.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=001052

Also says Universal will let you return the flawed discs to them for 
replacements when they are ready in Feburary.  Address and phone 
number for returns is given on the page.

-- Marty





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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 20:13:36 -0000
From: "mlick27 <mlick27_at_dml_yahoo.com>" <mlick27_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Insurance upgrade offer.

It's been a while since the dreaded Insurance thread has come up.  
Yesterday I stopped by my Allstate agent to see about making some 
changes to my policy when he mentioned that they just started a new 
partnership program with Hagerty Insurance.  In the end, my agent 
switched me, gave me better coverage, and saved me about 40% per year!

They're roadside assistance program is only $15/year and included  
flatbed towing (first $50 covered for up to 3 times per year), 
battery jumps or new battery delivery, flat tire service, lockout 
service, and fuel delivery when you run out of gas.  That's a lot of 
peace of mind for $15!  Info on it at 
http://www.hagerty.com/NewsManager/templates/faq_template.asp?
articleid=61&zoneid=21

To me, going with Hagerty looks like such a great deal.  Does anyone 
have any experience with them, positive or negative, when either 
filing a claim or needing assistance?

Insurance reminder to the lurking newbies, when insuring a D, be sure 
you state and give proof of a declared value for the car.  That's 
what they'll pay if it's totaled or stolen.

-- Marty





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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:00:52 -0500
From: RJRavalli_at_dml_AOL.com
Subject: Re: Making Good Impressions Of Our Car...

Like many regular drivers I find myself talking to people about the car constantly, so I wouldn't see any major reason to amp it up now that the BTTF DVD is out.  More power to ya though, Dan--that BTTF connection is probably is a good thing to do for owners who do not drive their car as often.

Richard



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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:34:18 -0500
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>
Subject: "DUHHH!!!!" at the gas pump

I had to share this...too funny....
 
I drove my Delorean today to run the engine a little and put some gas in
it.
 
When I pulled into the station, the attendant felt he had to make
conversation while I was pumping my gas (no biggie...I like to yap)
 
He asks me <all chipper and happy>: "Seen Raulph lately?"
 
Not quite sure who/what he is talking about, I reply "Raulph who?"
He answers: "The guy who made the car...."
 
all of a sudden it clicked on me, and I replied "oh...no.  Its 'John
Delorean...not 'Raulph Lauren' "
 
He felt a little bit silly, and walked away without another word.
 
Kevin Abato
Vin# 16680


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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:38:11 -0500
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>
Subject: Printable Flyer (Was - Making Good Impressions Of Our Car...)


(Moderators note:  It's in the files section on the Yahoo site called 'trifold'.)   


Good question!  Is this printable flyer on the site!?

-----Original Message-----
From: whocruiser <whocruiser_at_dml_aol.com> [mailto:whocruiser_at_dml_aol.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:39 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Making Good Impressions Of Our Car...


The thought just came to me that with Universal showing the in- theatre
promo for the Back To The Future DVD set in front of Lord Of 
The Rings the next three weeks, we could probably get quite a few 
groups of interested admirers to flock around by conspicuously 
parking our cars outside the theatres.  Great opportunity then to 
correct a few persistant false public conceptions about the D, just 
by chatting with people, or by passing out imformational handouts 
about the car (is that printable tri-fold brochure still up on the 
DMC News website to download?)  Not that I've got the time to spare 
to actually go out & do this, but for someone with the free time, and 
the inclination to do it...

Dan Harris - VIN#1662 - FL Tag# MY 81DMC



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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:41:10 -0500
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>
Subject: BTTF.com and DVD release

I know a moderator from BTTF.COM reads this forum.
 
whoever you are, can you contact me on the side, I am just curious how
bttf.com readers like the DVD release.
 
Thanks!
 
Kevin Abato
vin# 16680
delorean_at_dml_abato.net


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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:35:02 -0500
From: <eric_at_dml_seviernet.com>
Subject: Re: Making Good Impressions Of Our Car...

I've been reading the postings about the publicity of the DeLorean lately
and I'd like to chime in..

Hold on a second guys- DeLoreans are special to us, but to the rest of the
world the car is kind of a historical oddity. People have had all sorts of
reactions when they see the car, going from absolute positive to sometimes
absolute negative.

I drove my DeLorean to the local theater last night to see the Two Towers,
and I got lots of looks, thumbs up, "wow, cool car!", and other reactions.
No one asked me history or engineering questions, and for me to stand there
with a little pamphlet would make me look a lot like a religious solicitor
(no insult intended to anyone, just using the example) and not to mention
kind of foolish.

The VH1 thing intrigues me, I've been trying to think of a reaction for the
first person who comes up to me uses any terms concerning femine anatomy
towards my car. Oh how stupid I could make them look...

My point is this- we own our Deloreans mainly to enjoy them and live a
dream- not to sell the car to the public. I believe to own a DeLorean is own
it's oddball reputation, and there's no way around it.

I'm not trying to start any fights, just giving my opinion.

Eric Itzel
Vin # 04433
Sevierville, TN


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From: <whocruiser_at_dml_aol.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:39 PM
Subject: [DML] Making Good Impressions Of Our Car...


> The thought just came to me that with Universal showing the in-
> theatre promo for the Back To The Future DVD set in front of Lord Of
> The Rings the next three weeks, we could probably get quite a few
> groups of interested admirers to flock around by conspicuously
> parking our cars outside the theatres.  Great opportunity then to
> correct a few persistant false public conceptions about the D, just
> by chatting with people, or by passing out imformational handouts
> about the car (is that printable tri-fold brochure still up on the
> DMC News website to download?)  Not that I've got the time to spare
> to actually go out & do this, but for someone with the free time, and
> the inclination to do it...
>
> Dan Harris - VIN#1662 - FL Tag# MY 81DMC
>
>
>
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:43:16 -0600
From: Farrar Hudkins <fhudkins_at_dml_uno.edu>
Subject: Re: BTTF Widescreen DVD.

Perhaps it was done "quick and dirty" as Kevin said ... I didn't
recognize the name of the man with the accent who identifies himself as
the man behind the re-release of the films. Maybe they had a limited
budget; it would be interesting to find out -- anyone know much about
this, and how much Universal was willing to put into the thing? The only
promotional materials I saw were in the "smaller" music/DVD shops --
FYE, Sam Goody, Wherehouse Music, etc. I did see some online promotion
at Amazon.com. 

BTW, I also have the "UHF" DVD, and as "Weird" Al says on that DVD, "The
scenes were deleted because ... they SUCK." Keep in mind that before
there were DVDs, nobody shot extra footage with a home-release in mind
(like Peter Jackson and his Lord of the Rings trilogy), and most scenes
which were cut from movies were cut for a very good reason.

Also keep in mind that, like most people's opinions of the DMC, they
either love the movies or hate them. Interesting parallel, that.

All right, no more off-topic posts until the end of the year. Happy
holidays, everyone ...

Regards,
Farrar

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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 18:22:39 EST
From: kkoncelik_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Magazine comments

I got a lot of comments on the going to a party instead of sending out the 
magazine thought I would share this one from Kevin :-)

(Holiday party tonight!  How dare you put your personal life before us!?

;-)

Just kidding!)


I did get them out last night (after the party) so they were in the mail on 
Wedensday as stated.  So those that ordered should get it by Christmas.

Whew  glad that is over. 

Hope you all enjoy the magazine has a lot of articles about owners and the 
DeLoreans they drive.

Mark - Glad you liked my daughter on the cover :-)

Ken


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