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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1315
Date: Sunday, December 22, 2002 4:26 AM

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There are 21 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: "DUHHH!!!!" at the gas pump
From: "Toby Peterson <tobyp_at_dml_katewwdb.com>" <tobyp_at_dml_katewwdb.com>

2. Re: VH1 documentary on Betamax
From: "The Atkinson Family" <mikeatk(AT)cox.net>

3. Gull Wing BMW? and Teflon oil additive
From: "birdwell77095 <birdwells_at_dml_usa.net>" <birdwells_at_dml_usa.net>

4. Re: "DUHHH!!!!" at the gas pump
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>

5. RE: Gull Wing BMW? actually a Mercedes Benz
From: Senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com

6. Re: Gull Wing BMW? and Teflon oil additive
From: id <ionicdesign_at_dml_execpc.com>

7. Re: "DUHHH!!!!" at the gas pump
From: "gullwingmagazine <gullwingmagazine_at_dml_juno.com>" <gullwingmagazine_at_dml_juno.com>

8. Re: Gull Wing BMW? and Teflon oil additive
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

9. Re: "DUHHH!!!!" at the gas pump
From: "Dave Swingle <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

10. Re: Teflon oil additive
From: "Dave Swingle <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

11. Re: "DUHHH!!!!" at the gas pump
From: RJRavalli_at_dml_AOL.com

12. Re: "DUHHH!!!!" at the gas pump
From: kkoncelik_at_dml_aol.com

13. RE: ANNOUNCING 2003 DELOREAN CALENDAR!
From: "gullwingmagazine <gullwingmagazine_at_dml_juno.com>" <gullwingmagazine_at_dml_juno.com>

14. Re: Re: Teflon oil additive
From: "B Benson" <delornut_at_dml_peoplepc.com>

15. RE: Gull Wing BMW? and Teflon oil additive
From: "Mike Griese" <mike.griese_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>

16. Car for Sale
From: "Jack Singer" <jsinger_at_dml_i-c.net>

17. Re: Re: Teflon oil additive
From: Senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com

18. Re: Teflon oil additive
From: "Harold McElraft <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>" <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>

19. Re: Gull Wing BMW? and Teflon oil additive
From: Michael T Twigger <marktwigger_at_dml_juno.com>

20. Ken's Magazine is here!
From: "David Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

21. Re: Re: Teflon oil additive
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 06:21:35 -0000
From: "Toby Peterson <tobyp_at_dml_katewwdb.com>" <tobyp_at_dml_katewwdb.com>
Subject: Re: "DUHHH!!!!" at the gas pump

I believe that the concept is this ... Ralph Lauren owns a company 
that makes clothing, clothing accessories, and fragrances.  Not a 
thing to do with cars.  However, if you say his name fast, and kind 
of all at once, it *could* sound a little like "DeLorean".  I think 
it's as simple as that.  The gas station attendant confused the two 
names because they sort of sound alike, and then tried to appear 
smart ... until he opened his mouth.  Those of us who've had a 
DeLorean for a while have heard all kinds of bizarre things like 
this.  Goes with the territory, I guess.  And Merry Christmas to you 
as well!  (Firebomb you?  We wouldn't even consider it!  Right, 
List?)

Toby Peterson  VIN 2248
Winged1

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "treehouse2000us 
<treehouse2000us_at_dml_y...>" <treehouse2000us_at_dml_y...> wrote:
>Ok, firebomb me guys.  I know its probley not DeLorean related, 
>(mabye it is), but could someone tell me who Raulph is?  Did he 
>build a car as well?  




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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 02:23:32 -0700
From: "The Atkinson Family" <mikeatk(AT)cox.net>
Subject: Re: VH1 documentary on Betamax

Hi Bill,

I just saw your message.  I'd like to have a Betamax if yours is still available.  What would it cost to ship do you think.

Thanks

Mike Atkinson
  ----- 


  Subject: [DML] VH1 documentary on Betamax


  OK -- two comments Re: Betamax VCR's:

  I am proud owner of a vintage functioning Betamax that never gets
  used. Do either of you guys or anyone else on the list want it, no
  charge? You'll have to pay shipping.

  (Didn't record documentary on Beta, or anything else for that matter.
  I'm just offering the machine).

  Bill Robertson
  #5939

  >--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, TOM RIMKUS <jonas19992000_at_dml_y...> wrote:
  > 
  > My beta is broken.
  > 
  > --- "d_rex_2002 <rich_at_dml_o...>"
  > <rich_at_dml_o...> wrote:
  > > 
  > > Don't forget to set your VCR (I think I'll break out
  > > the old Beta).





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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 15:57:14 -0000
From: "birdwell77095 <birdwells_at_dml_usa.net>" <birdwells_at_dml_usa.net>
Subject: Gull Wing BMW? and Teflon oil additive

Yesterday I was in a used bookstore and came across an automotive
history of exotic cars (Sorry, I didn't write down the title). One of
the cars mentioned was a gull wing BMW turbo. It was planned and at
least a prototype was built in the early 70's or 80's. Interestingly
enough, it was featured as a "safety car". What is it with gull winged
cars and safety. Has anyone heard about this car?

I haven't heard any mention as to whether anyone has used a teflon
lubrican such as Lubrilon in their car. Has anyone used this and has
it made a difference in care/performance?


Shannon Birdwell




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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 08:52:58 -0800 (PST)
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: "DUHHH!!!!" at the gas pump

We really do need to accumulate all these wonderful
stories and publish them at some time.  My most recent
"gas pump" story goes as follows:

In late October I drove from my home in Steamboat
Springs, CO to L.A. in my D.  After I filled up at a
gas station in Utah, I went into the convenience store
that was a part of the business.  The owner said,
"WOW, where did you get that car?".  I gave him the
usual intelligent remark - I bought it! Then, he said,
"I thought they were all confiscated after the drug
bust!!!!"

We coulc perhaps put these stories into short story
form and, borrowing from the movies, entitle it - -
are you ready? - -  Duh - Duher - Duhmest.

Dick Ryan

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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 13:17:16 -0500
From: Senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: RE: Gull Wing BMW? actually a Mercedes Benz



Mercedes Benz had another Gullwing Safety car called the C1113. The car had a wankel rear mounted rotary engine, with the identical seats and binnacle from the DeLorean prototypes.

The Mercedes was gearing up for production in late 1977 when the second "energy crisis" hit in 1978.

There are only 6-7 of these C1113 known to exist and they all reside in the Mercedes museum in Stuggart Germany.

Michael Pack


"birdwell77095 <birdwells_at_dml_usa.net>" <birdwells_at_dml_usa.net> wrote:

>Yesterday I was in a used bookstore and came across an automotive
>history of exotic cars (Sorry, I didn't write down the title). One of
>the cars mentioned was a gull wing BMW turbo. It was planned and at
>least a prototype was built in the early 70's or 80's. Interestingly
>enough, it was featured as a "safety car". What is it with gull winged
>cars and safety. Has anyone heard about this car?
>
>I haven't heard any mention as to whether anyone has used a teflon
>lubrican such as Lubrilon in their car. Has anyone used this and has
>it made a difference in care/performance?
>
>
>Shannon Birdwell
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
>



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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 12:29:45 -0600
From: id <ionicdesign_at_dml_execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Gull Wing BMW? and Teflon oil additive

slick-50 has teflon in it and my friends engine siezed at 84,000 in his old mustang II,
it ran out of oil due to the oil change person didnt tighten my friends drain plug. but
in the commercial for slick-50 they run an engine with out oil in it....Hmmm.

any particles in any oil additive will get trapped in the oil filter.

mark



"birdwell77095 " wrote:

> Yesterday I was in a used bookstore and came across an automotive
> history of exotic cars (Sorry, I didn't write down the title). One of
> the cars mentioned was a gull wing BMW turbo. It was planned and at
> least a prototype was built in the early 70's or 80's. Interestingly
> enough, it was featured as a "safety car". What is it with gull winged
> cars and safety. Has anyone heard about this car?
>
> I haven't heard any mention as to whether anyone has used a teflon
> lubrican such as Lubrilon in their car. Has anyone used this and has
> it made a difference in care/performance?
>
> Shannon Birdwell
>
> To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address:
> moderators_at_dml_dmcnews.com
>
> To search the archives or view files, log in at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews
>
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 18:34:19 -0000
From: "gullwingmagazine <gullwingmagazine_at_dml_juno.com>" <gullwingmagazine_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Re: "DUHHH!!!!" at the gas pump

Actually, Ralph Lauren owns two McLaren F1s.  Maybe the attendant 
confused the scissors type door on the McLaren with the gullwing type 
doors on our Ds.

Ron

> I believe that the concept is this ... Ralph Lauren owns a company 
> that makes clothing, clothing accessories, and fragrances.  Not a 
> thing to do with cars.  However, if you say his name fast, and kind 
> of all at once, it *could* sound a little like "DeLorean".  I think 
> it's as simple as that.  The gas station attendant confused the two 
> names because they sort of sound alike, and then tried to appear 
> smart ... until he opened his mouth.  Those of us who've had a 
> DeLorean for a while have heard all kinds of bizarre things like 
> this.  Goes with the territory, I guess.  And Merry Christmas to 
you 





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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 13:37:22 EST
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Gull Wing BMW? and Teflon oil additive

Shannon, I have used Teflon based oil products in my cars for years. Oil and 
manual transmissions. The only problem I had was at the inspection station 
when the car had a hard time heating up to pass emissions. The man asked me 
if I had Teflon in the car and I said yes. Then he knew why it was harder to 
heat up. Follow directions on the can and make your oil a little slicker.
John Hervey
www.specialTauto.com


<< I haven't heard any mention as to whether anyone has used a Teflon
 lubricant such as Lubrilon in their car. Has anyone used this and has
 it made a difference in care/performance?
  >>



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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 19:14:23 -0000
From: "Dave Swingle <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: Re: "DUHHH!!!!" at the gas pump

Sounds like a good project for over the holidays. I'll add a spot to 
www.dmcnews.com tonight and see what gets sent in. I'm kind of behind 
on updating the web page, but hope to do something over the next week 
or so. 

Dave S

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_y...> wrote:
> We really do need to accumulate all these wonderful
> stories and publish them at some time.  My most recent
> "gas pump" story goes as follows:

could perhaps put these stories into short story
> form and, borrowing from the movies, entitle it - -
> are you ready? - -  Duh - Duher - Duhmest.
> 
> Dick Ryan





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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 19:29:55 -0000
From: "Dave Swingle <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: Re: Teflon oil additive

This will quickly turn into a Holy War.... Before you use any of this 
stuff do a simple Google web search on keywords "teflon motor oil". 
You'll see a ton of information on this, much of it related to 
(successful) government FTC fraudulent advertising lawsuits against 
the companies marketing these products. Even DuPont has issued many 
public statements that they never approved the use of teflon in this 
manner. 

You'll also see a ton of testimonials, just read carefully about the 
level of testing any of them has done. 

Do your own research, draw your own conclusions. 

Dave S

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "birdwell77095 <birdwells_at_dml_u...>" 
<birdwells_at_dml_u...> wrote:
--
> 
> I haven't heard any mention as to whether anyone has used a teflon
> lubrican such as Lubrilon in their car. Has anyone used this and has
> it made a difference in care/performance?
> 
> 
> Shannon Birdwell




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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 14:38:22 -0500
From: RJRavalli_at_dml_AOL.com
Subject: Re: "DUHHH!!!!" at the gas pump

Or maybe we could all take the "sting" out of their supposed Delorean knowledge by putting a license plate saying "DRG DLER" on our cars, putting white power on the door sills, fascias, and our noses, and laugh really loudly and obnoxiously when we get out of the car.  Maybe then they would think *we're* stupid and would leave us alone so we don't have to hear their stupidity.

Richard  



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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 14:46:00 EST
From: kkoncelik_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: "DUHHH!!!!" at the gas pump

I am willing to put them down in the magazine if you all will write them down 
and send them in 

Ken
deloreancarshow.com
DeLorean Car Show Magazine


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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 20:01:19 -0000
From: "gullwingmagazine <gullwingmagazine_at_dml_juno.com>" <gullwingmagazine_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: RE: ANNOUNCING 2003 DELOREAN CALENDAR!

     ANNOUNCING 2003 DELOREAN CALENDAR!

Now available for only $12.00 + $1.50 shipping (add $1.15 shipping 
for each additional calendar order up to 3).  Please request shipping 
charges for quantities over 3 and foreign rates.

Our 8X10 full-color glossy 12 month calendar includes unique and 
interesting photos of gullwing dream Deloreans thanks to the 
photographic talents from many of our group members.

     Credits to the collection...

Jack & Virginia Stiefel, Cape Vincent, NY
Kevin Creason, Houston, TX
Josh Haldeman, Cincinnati, OH
Oliver & Terry Holler, N. Myrtle Beach, SC
Marty Maier, Alton, IL
Greg Linstad, Vancouver, Canada
Ron Wester, St. Peters, MO
Jim Sawyer, Snohomish, WA
Toby Peterson, Issaquah, WA
Marc A. Levy, Bedminster, NJ
Kevin Abato, Princeton, NJ
Cheryl Wester, Clayton, MO

ORDER YOUR COPY TODAY by sending check or money order to:

     GULLWING MAGAZINE
     P.O. BOX 991
     ST. PETERS, MO  63376

(orders will be shipped to address on check unless stated otherwise)

Now accepting new photo submissions for consideration in our 2004 
Delorean Calendar at the address listed above or the e-mail address 
listed below.  2005 Calenders will be available at the Pigeon Forge 
event.

Thank you, 
Ron & Cheryl Wester
GULLWING MAGAZINE
gullwingmagazine(at)juno.com




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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 14:17:09 -0800
From: "B Benson" <delornut_at_dml_peoplepc.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Teflon oil additive

Having spent the last 38 years in the automobile manufacturing business I
can assure you that warranty costs are the one thing that eats into profits
faster than any other. If something as quick and easy as adding a Teflon
additive would reduce engine related warranty costs it would have been
applied years ago. Changing oil every 3 to 4,000 miles using good quality
motor oil is the cheapest most reliable way to engine durability.

Bruce Benson

> You'll see a ton of information on this, much of it related to
> (successful) government FTC fraudulent advertising lawsuits against
> the companies marketing these products. Even DuPont has issued many
> public statements that they never approved the use of teflon in this
> manner.
> Dave S





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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 14:43:56 -0600
From: "Mike Griese" <mike.griese_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: Gull Wing BMW? and Teflon oil additive

All teflon additives are crap.  Don't use them.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: birdwell77095 <birdwells_at_dml_usa.net> [mailto:birdwells_at_dml_usa.net]
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2002 9:57 AM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Gull Wing BMW? and Teflon oil additive


Yesterday I was in a used bookstore and came across an automotive
history of exotic cars (Sorry, I didn't write down the title). One of
the cars mentioned was a gull wing BMW turbo. It was planned and at
least a prototype was built in the early 70's or 80's. Interestingly
enough, it was featured as a "safety car". What is it with gull winged
cars and safety. Has anyone heard about this car?

I haven't heard any mention as to whether anyone has used a teflon
lubrican such as Lubrilon in their car. Has anyone used this and has
it made a difference in care/performance?





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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 16:06:36 -0500
From: "Jack Singer" <jsinger_at_dml_i-c.net>
Subject: Car for Sale

Due to a job situation (lack of one), I have to sell the DeLorean that I
have been working on.  I would rather sell it to someone on the list if
anyone wants it.  Best offer over $10k.  I am putting it on ebay, however,
if anyone on the list wants it I will remove it from ebay.  It is an
automatic, Vin 2418 with new Tank Zilla, everything in the fuel tank
replaced, filter and fuel distributor and injectors.  It has 36,906 miles on
it.  Binnicle and Dash are perfect.  The bad is that the drivers seat has
dry rot, fascias need paint, drivers window motor is dead, however a new one
is included.

Jack Singer
jsinger_at_dml_i-c.net





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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 16:52:47 -0500
From: Senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: Re: Re: Teflon oil additive


Is Mobil one synthetic better than conventional oils? 

My BMW's (and other European Cars) have a decal attached under the hood "requesting" the use of Mobil One synthetic. 

The BMW dealers use zero 0w/30 oil.

Michael Pack

"B Benson" <delornut_at_dml_peoplepc.com> wrote:

>Having spent the last 38 years in the automobile manufacturing business I
>can assure you that warranty costs are the one thing that eats into profits
>faster than any other. If something as quick and easy as adding a Teflon
>additive would reduce engine related warranty costs it would have been
>applied years ago. Changing oil every 3 to 4,000 miles using good quality
>motor oil is the cheapest most reliable way to engine durability.
>
>Bruce Benson
>
>> You'll see a ton of information on this, much of it related to
>> (successful) government FTC fraudulent advertising lawsuits against
>> the companies marketing these products. Even DuPont has issued many
>> public statements that they never approved the use of teflon in this
>> manner.
>> Dave S
>
>
>
>
>To address comments privately to the moderating team, please address:
>moderators_at_dml_dmcnews.com
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>
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>
>
>



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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 23:31:23 -0000
From: "Harold McElraft <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>" <hmcelraft_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Re: Teflon oil additive

Michael

The answer is YES, absolutely. Synthetic oils are better than 
conventional oils! They are much more expensive, however. One of the 
easiest places to read about oils is valvoline.com. I have been 
using Valvoline 5w-40 synthetic in my D for about 4 years now. I 
change it every year even with only 2 or 3000 miles on it. It is 
clean, less drag and an edge against heat damage. I use synthetic 
gear oil in the final drive and Synthetic in the auto trans. The 
auto trans is smooth as silk and always looks clean and red.

Harold McElraft - 3354





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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 18:46:01 -0500
From: Michael T Twigger <marktwigger_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Re: Gull Wing BMW? and Teflon oil additive

Yes I have a poster of it  with 1972 Munchen BMW museum on it. It was
mentioned
in the Dec edition of road & track.

It had a 1990-cc sohc inline 4- similar to the DSV
200bhp and weighted only 2160lbs

An encircling impact strip and foam sections. Impact absorbing end
sections
with telescoping steel beams.

Also looks likes like a Giugiaro design.

Has anyone seen the new Citroen C Airdream? looks like a modernized
Delorean with no
gullwing doors, yet again done by Giugiaro and ital design.

Mark T

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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 18:12:24 -0600
From: "David Swingle" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: Ken's Magazine is here!

Keep an eye on your mailbox - I received the premier issue of "DeLorean Car Show" magazine in the mail today - I'm impressed. Fantastic first issue, 48 pages, and about 95% of the magazine is in color. Covers much more than must the Memphis show - at least 12 articles. And he was considerate enough to put the mailing label on the back...... Keep 'em coming! 

If you haven't subscribed yet see the deloreancarshow.com web page for info.

Dave Swingle


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Message: 21
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 19:14:56 EST
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: Teflon oil additive

In a message dated 12/21/02 4:38:49 PM Central Standard Time, 
Senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com writes:


> Is Mobil one synthetic better than conventional oils? 
> 
> My BMW's (and other European Cars) have a decal attached under the hood 
> "requesting" the use of Mobil One synthetic. 
> 
> The BMW dealers use zero 0w/30 oil.
> 
> Michael Pack

I work in the lubrication industry and here's the scoop on synthetics:

syntetic oil has been around a very long time, since at least the 30's 
(germany made advances in it's development so they could use it in their 
tanks to fight russia)

modern synthetics will NOT 'make' a car leak oil.  today's mobile 1 has a 
very advanced additives package that will not cause this to happen.  older 
less advanced synthetics did, simply because synthetic oil has a 100% 
synthetic base stock - every molecule of oil is exactly same, as opposed to 
the cluster fxck of petroleum products in conventional oil.  so if you car 
used to have slight oil leaks, it would probably leak more because the oil is 
just that good - it finds its way out.

the advantages to running mobil 1/other quality synthetics:
1. most people run extended oil drain intervals (though mobil DOES NOT 
recommend this, but synthetics WILL hold up a hell of a lot better than 
conventional oil IF you forget to change it at 3,000. typically people with 
synthetic run is about 5-6K miles. most professionals recommened changing the 
oil filter at LEAST at 3K.)

2. pour point depressents allow the oil to flow adequately at tempertures 
below -35F

3. oil will not boil off as easily as conv. oil under high heat, and it will 
flow to the upper cams and such MUCH faster than regular oil

4. doesn't oxidate like conv. oil which means your oil won't get as dirty as 
fast.

5. improves gas milage due to increased lubrication properties (less 
friction= increased engine efficiency and lower operating tempertures)

6. as an effect of easier starting, synthetic oil will keep your sensors and 
other engine controls operating more effectively by not producing waste 
products under sluggish starting and will increase life of the emissions 
system.

really the only downsides to synthetics is that  (A) you really shouldn't 
switch to it on an old car (including DeLoreans) because the engine is 
actually 'used' to lower-quality oils by now, and some of the assembly 
methods or components used may not be up to current standards which would 
allow synthetic oil use, even from the beginning [this is questionable - 
maybe someone who has used synthetics for a long time in their D can comment 
on this] and (B) their cost (about 3x the amount of conv. oils.

as bruce benson said, the best thing to do for your car is to use a quality 
oil and oil filter and replace your oil and filter EVERY 3K miles (which will 
open another can of worms, but if you can't afford to do this even just for 
the hell of it, you probably can't afford a DeLorean either)

Andy

Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102


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