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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1317
Date: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 4:04 AM

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There are 9 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Possible Serious Problem?
From: Scott Tester <scott_at_dml_delorean.com>

2. ADMIN:Gas Station (and other drive-by) Humor Page
From: "Dave Swingle <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

3. DeLorean Car Show Magazine "IN FLUX"
From: kkoncelik_at_dml_aol.com

4. Re: RE: ANNOUNCING 2003 DELOREAN CALENDAR!
From: "gullwingmagazine <gullwingmagazine_at_dml_juno.com>" <gullwingmagazine_at_dml_juno.com>

5. Re: RE: ANNOUNCING 2003 DELOREAN CALENDAR!
From: wingd2_at_dml_aol.com

6. Re: Possible Serious Problem?
From: "David Teitelbaum <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

7. 2003 Delorean Calendar
From: "gullwingmagazine <gullwingmagazine_at_dml_juno.com>" <gullwingmagazine_at_dml_juno.com>

8. Re: Re: "DUHHH!!!!" at the gas pump
From: "The Atkinson Family" <mikeatk_at_dml_cox.net>

9. Re: gas stations
From: "PatrickDMC <patrickdmc_at_dml_yahoo.com>" <patrickdmc_at_dml_yahoo.com>





Message: 1
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 23:59:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Scott Tester <scott_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Possible Serious Problem?

I took my DeLorean to the car wash a week ago and degreased the engine with a pressure washer. After that it started sputtering and had a severe loss in power. I pulled a few spark plug wires and of coarse determined that the problem was water in the spark plug wells. I knew after seeing it that I would have to disassemble the top of the engine to replace the spark plugs and wires.

The possible problem is that tonight when I came back from the grocery store I noticed the engine felt hotter than normal, so I opened the engine bay. I was in shock as I saw that my header was red hot, glowing in the dark of my garage! Have I damaged the engine by driving it just a few miles in this condition? I'm pretty sure it's just fuel building up and then burning hotter in one or more of the cylinders that doesn't fire every revolution. But I'm worried it might have warped or damaged the engine in some way!

Has anyone else experienced this? I checked the archives and all I could find was mentions of a leaking header gasket causing the "glowing header".

Any help would be appreciated...

Thanks!

Scott Tester     scott(at)delorean(dot)com


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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 12:03:23 -0000
From: "Dave Swingle <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: ADMIN:Gas Station (and other drive-by) Humor Page

You asked for it - you got it. There's a link from the main 
dmcnews.com page, but for a quick look:

http://www.dmcnews.com/funnies.html

Dave S




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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 11:21:32 EST
From: kkoncelik_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: DeLorean Car Show Magazine "IN FLUX"

Hope all of you that ordered the magazine so far are enjoying it.

The feedback so far has been great and as we go we will be adding to the 
magazine.
That in part is what this message is about.  

We have come up with and idea for people wanting to sell their DeLoreans, 
others wanting to buy and others just looking.
We don't want it to look like a classified section but we would like to 
dedicate a page or two for these people.  It would be called " IN FLUX " and 
you are welcome to send in a short description (with photo where possible) of 
what you are looking to sell or buy.

We will let this one grow as time goes on and see where it goes. 

If any of you clubs out there want to be included send us your articles. Its 
open to EVERYONE.

Thanks and a Merry Christmas to all of you,

My present to you was the magazine so enjoy and we'll work on the next issue. 

We will have much more time on future issues.  Putting a magazine together
in two months was quite an interesting task but we did it. Thanks Josh!!!!!!

Ken

DeLorean Car Show Inc
DeLorean Car Show Magazine
Deloreancarshow.com


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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 16:32:10 -0000
From: "gullwingmagazine <gullwingmagazine_at_dml_juno.com>" <gullwingmagazine_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: Re: RE: ANNOUNCING 2003 DELOREAN CALENDAR!

Yes, we will take PayPal.

Ron

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, id <ionicdesign_at_dml_e...> wrote:
> will you be taking paypal for these calendars?
> 
> mark





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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 17:08:01 EST
From: wingd2_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: RE: ANNOUNCING 2003 DELOREAN CALENDAR!

   Well, it looks like I got my first Xmas present early this year. My copy 
of Ron's new 2003 Delorean Calendar just showed up. Very nice indeed ! Some 
great shots of some very nice Deloreans. It looks great hanging up in my 
office. Now I'm going to have to get another one for my garage :-)

   Happy Holidays !!!
       Marty  


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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 00:44:41 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Possible Serious Problem?

You don't need to disassenble the engine to change the ignition wires 
although you will have to loosen the idle motor. You should be alright 
after changing the wires and it is a good idea as long as you are 
there to at least clean and regap the spark plugs if you aren't going 
to replace them. Chances are you did no permanant damage to the engine 
or catalytic converter but you probably burnt the outside of the 
muffler up and maybe even damaged the heat shield. The muffler can be 
repainted with high temp silver and the shield replaced. It is 
asbestoes so try not to make a lot of dust when removing it and 
immediatly place it in a double sealed plastic bag. Dispose of 
properly according to local regs. Most areas have a hazardous pickup 
site you can take it to. If you still want to take everything apart 
you might consider doing a major service on the cooling system, 
replacing the water pump, belts, seals, gaskets, and hoses. This will 
get expensive so be prepared. It depends on if it was ever done. You 
may also break some bolts in the process.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, Scott Tester <scott_at_dml_d...> wrote:
> I took my DeLorean to the car wash a week ago and degreased the 
engine with a pressure washer. After that it started sputtering and 
had a severe loss in power. I pulled a few spark plug wires and of 
coarse determined that the problem was water in the spark plug wells. 
I knew after seeing it that I would have to disassemble the top of the 
engine to replace the spark plugs and wires.
> 
> The possible problem is that tonight when I came back from the 
grocery store I noticed the engine felt hotter than normal, so I 
opened the engine bay. I was in shock as I saw that my header was red 
hot, glowing in the dark of my garage! Have I damaged the engine by 
driving it just a few miles in this condition? I'm pretty sure it's 
just fuel building up and then burning hotter in one or more of the 
cylinders that doesn't fire every revolution. But I'm worried it might 
have warped or damaged the engine in some way!
> 
> Has anyone else experienced this? I checked the archives and all I 
could find was mentions of a leaking header gasket causing the 
"glowing header".
> 
> Any help would be appreciated...
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Scott Tester     scott(at)delorean(dot)com
> 
> 
> _____________________________________________________________
> It's not too late to get your 1/18 scale Diecast DeLorean model! To 
order, call 800/USA-DMC1 or visit our online store at 
http://www.delorean.com
> 
> _____________________________________________________________
> Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get you_at_dml_y... w/No 
Ads, 6MB, POP & more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag




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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 22:25:56 -0000
From: "gullwingmagazine <gullwingmagazine_at_dml_juno.com>" <gullwingmagazine_at_dml_juno.com>
Subject: 2003 Delorean Calendar

Just a note on the calendar.

The credit for the shots indicate where the pic was taken, not where 
the owner lives.  Sorry for any confusion.

Ron
Gullwing Magazine






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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 03:09:02 -0700
From: "The Atkinson Family" <mikeatk_at_dml_cox.net>
Subject: Re: Re: "DUHHH!!!!" at the gas pump

O.K.

My turn.  While filling up at the local gas station. An older gentleman just stood by and stared at our car.  I smiled at him and had no response as he kept staring at the DeLorean.  Getting kinda weird now as I kept filling the tank while he would not even make eye contact but standing very close to me.  After fueling up and heading for my seat I made one more effort to look at him.  He finally looked at me and said.  

It ain't got a lick of paint on it!

I just smiled.

I think it's time we had a section for this kind of stuff.  It's all part of owning the DeLorean in my opinion and we do all love it even if some people don't want to admit it.  

BTW, Just my opinion.

Mike Atkinson

 





  Subject: Re: [DML] Re: "DUHHH!!!!" at the gas pump


  The best "duhhh" I ever had at the gas pump was in my first week of ownership 
  of my DeLorean. At the time I was living in East Lansing Michigan (home of 
  the infamous riot in which MSU students flipped a DeLorean) and I was at the 
  gas pump filling the tank as usual... an older man (about 65 years old or so) 
  walks over and starts asking questions about the car. First think out of his 
  mouth is "Boy that sure is a neat car! ....is that a new electric car?" 
  ...right as I'm standing there with gas nozzle in hand at a Mobil station. It 
  was seriously hard not to laugh.

  Justin
  5172

  PS - VH1 will never apologize for what they allowed to go on air about our 
  beloved DeLoreans... VH1 and Viacom couldn't give to craps about all the 
  victims families that are suffering every time they glorify murders and 
  rapists on that "prison rock" show they have been airing lately. All they 
  were trying to do with those 80's programs are exploit the fads and fashions 
  of the era, and make a mountain out of a mole hill by interviewing "divas" 
  and plastering their half-witted opinion all over the show. As a law student, 
  I dont seriously think that filing a class action would go anywhere, but If I 
  were Tamir I certainly would give those bastards a call.






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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 21:11:07 -0000
From: "PatrickDMC <patrickdmc_at_dml_yahoo.com>" <patrickdmc_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: gas stations

These are great stories,  here's mine.

I'm at the gas station putting gas in mine when a guy with a Miata 
walks over and POUNDS on the passenger side front fender with his 
fist. He doesn't bother to look at me but turns away and says "Yep, 
just what I thought, aluminum". 


Patrick
1040



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, "Adam <acprice1_at_dml_h...>" 
<acprice1_at_dml_h...> wrote:
> Last time I went to my favorite Chevron the gas station, the 
attendant
> remembered my car and that the hood has to open to get at the gas 
> cap. (In oregon we cant pump our own gas). This A-hole started 
> yanking on the hood before I had even unlatched it, and I mean 
> YANKing it! I thought he was going to break something so I 
unlatched 
> it real quick. Sheesh.

> Adam




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