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Date: Friday, January 11, 2002 8:44 AM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. DeLoreans opinion of his work.
From: "mr_662" <mr_662_at_dml_yahoo.co.uk>

2. Re: SUPER WHITE HEADLIGHTS
From: "janvdwouw" <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>

3. Re: AC-panellight conversion (was URL request)
From: "janvdwouw" <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>

4. RE: A thank you to the fine Senator
From: Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>

5. Auto tranny governor
From: "Adam Price" <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>

6. Re: SUPER WHITE HEADLIGHTS
From: Bob Brandys <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com>

7. RE: DeLoreans opinion of his work.
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com

8. gear change
From: "Paul Salsbury" <paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com>

9. RE: DeLoreans opinion of his work.
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>

10. RE: Auto tranny governor
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>

11. DeLorean Car Show Registration Page
From: kkoncelik_at_dml_aol.com

12. E! True Hollywood Story
From: Farrar Hudkins <fhudkins_at_dml_uno.edu>

13. Re: Auto tranny governor
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

14. Site update and thanks
From: "Paul Salsbury" <paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com>

15. Re: Auto tranny governor
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com

16. Re: SUPER WHITE HEADLIGHTS
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>

17. Re: A thank you to the fine Senator
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

18. Xenarc HID (was: SUPER WHITE HEADLIGHTS)
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

19. Parking brake handle disconnected...
From: "dmc24000" <delorean_at_dml_ramblerman.com>

20. Sunstar models - scratch and dent sale
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>

21. Re: Fuel pressure at the injectors?
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com

22. Test Track Preservation Project - Calling all DMC owners and enthusiasts!
From: "Stian Birkeland" <delorean_at_dml_online.no>

23. Re: gear change
From: "tmpintnl" <tobyp_at_dml_katewwdb.com>

24. Trailing Arm Bolts - Coming soon
From: "tmpintnl" <tobyp_at_dml_katewwdb.com>

25. Re: Auto tranny governor
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:56:37 -0000
From: "mr_662" <mr_662_at_dml_yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: DeLoreans opinion of his work.

I am currently writing a report on JZD for my degree and I am trying 
to find an article or site about what he thinks of his work. I have 
been looking for absolutly ages but can't seem to find anything. Hope 
you guys can help as its due 2morow. Typical student leaving 
everything to the last minute.

Many Thanks For Your Help




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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:26:11 -0000
From: "janvdwouw" <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>
Subject: Re: SUPER WHITE HEADLIGHTS

--- In dmcnews, "Digital Devices" wrote:

>  What are thoughts / feeling on this eBay auction … 

Looks ike a conversionset similar to the Xenon-lights 
DMC Houston sells (I think; couldn't find it on their site...)

>  Would it make a difference in heat… you know .. 
> to help prevent  The eyebrow effect on the front fascia?

I think these COULD make things worse; the powerrating 
is the same at 55/60W, but they state the output is 90/100W.
I doubt if only the lightoutput is higher, I suspect they will get
even hotter than the bulbs allready on your car...

The "Wire Transformers" are nice, but I know from experience 
that the contacts inside the OEM plug can be removed and 
rearranged in the plug. 
I happen to know this since over here in Europe it is illegal 
to have sealed beams on your car, so I allready had converted
lights on my car when I bought it.
Unfortunately the person that conerted the lights fogot to convert 
the plug, so my inner lights and the filaments for high in the outer 
ones would glow a bit when I had dipped beams on and the 
dipped beams weren't bright enough...
With high beams all would be OK. It's just a matter of switching 
the contacts for ground and dipped beam, nothing more...

The price seems OK to me, but if you do this conversion, I would 
also do the inner lights, so the glass lenses look the same, else 
it would look really stupitd IMHO...

Greetings from The Netherlands,

Jan van de Wouw
Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

#05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:42:49 -0000
From: "janvdwouw" <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>
Subject: Re: AC-panellight conversion (was URL request)

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> > <PROTECT YOUR A/C CONTROL PANEL BEZEL!!!  >
> As a variation on the theme, I have seen a DeLorean
> with a wire wound ceramic resistor in place of the jumper. 
> The purpose was to dim the lights a little so that it wouldn't 
> cook the a/c bezel even at night.  I don't remember the
> specs of the resistor.  Has anyone else seen this?

I just searched the backissues at dmcnews.com;
it came up with a 10 ohm resistor. I also found a 
warning to wrap it up in electrical tape for insulation...

On my car I have jumpered the relayslot so my panellights 
are on, but DIMMED all the time; the idea with the 4 spade
relay is a nice one, but since I ALLWAYS have my lights on, 
the effect is the same. Having a jumper instead of a relay 
also allowed me to hook up a lightreminder-buzzer, 
so I don't forget to switch them off when I turn off the ignition...

On <http://members.home.nl/delorean/relays.jpg> 
you can see my setup for this jumper. 

Good luck,

Jan van de Wouw
Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

#05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 09:30:03 -0800 (PST)
From: Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>
Subject: RE: A thank you to the fine Senator

*****  Moderator's Note  *****
Regardless of the likelihood of a spark from the fuel pump,
a leaking fuel system is ALWAYS a hazard.  
*****

Can the wires that connect to the fuel pump produce a spark? I really do
need to know how serious this is since the DeLorean is my daily car. I've
never heard of a DeLorean's gas tank exploding due to gas being trapped
above the fuel pump, so I'm guessing that this is just a case of something
that looks scary.

Thanks in advance.

-Christian

On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Scott Mueller wrote:

> Only very dangerous if a spark is available to ignite the gasoline, then
> KABOOM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christian Williams [mailto:delorean_at_dml_framezero.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 12:48 PM
>
>
> Yes, I had an inch or two of gas
> on top of my fuel pump, right where the 2 wires connect to it. I imagine
> it's a leak where the hoses connect inside the fuel pump boot. What should
> be used to seal these 2 connections better?
>
> How dangerous is this? I've been driving the car like this daily for quite
> a while.
>
> -Christian
>
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 09:35:59 -0800
From: "Adam Price" <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Auto tranny governor


I need a new auto tran computer and I am wondering about ordering a "new" 
one. Are the governors that DMCHouston, D1, etc carry left over from the 
80s, or are they newer? If they are newer, hopefully they are improved in 
some way? Someone on this message list, a while back, posted that pjgrady 
was offering an improved version of the autotranny governor, but I just 
called them and they said they never offered such a thing.

Another thing. I was surfing the vendor sites today and noticed that prices 
are rising! A refurbished car from Houston used to be 29,500, now its 
32,500, the D1 cars now go for 62,500!!! I also priced the auto tranny govs, 
Houston wants 450, up from 400, and D1 wants 647 dollars!??!!? Eff!

Adam 16683 effing automatic

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 11:44:47 -0600
From: Bob Brandys <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com>
Subject: Re: SUPER WHITE HEADLIGHTS



I think they are a great idea.  However, very few of us drive our D at night.

Bob




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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 12:53:35 -0500
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: RE: DeLoreans opinion of his work.

>I am trying 
>to find an article or site about what he thinks of his work. 

Try www.entermyworld.com
Tamir's site has lots of articles on JD.



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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 18:15:27 -0000
From: "Paul Salsbury" <paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com>
Subject: gear change

I have just replaced the Shifter boot on my 5 speed. The new one has the metal frame around the bottom as opposed to the plastic one.

The problem I now have is I have difficulty getting it into reverse, as I can't get the gear stick over to the left enough with out pulling Sharpe into the side of the plate the boot sits in.

Looking in the manual at F:07:01 on gear change tube, It sounds like this simple adjustment, will move the entire shift pattern towards the passenger. Is that all I need to do, as there seems to be plenty of space over that side??

Cheers

Paul
#6463


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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 13:39:36 -0500
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>
Subject: RE: DeLoreans opinion of his work.

You may want to check his interview articles, like Playboy 1985.   I can't think of anything for sure though.

Why not give him a call and ask?

-----Original Message-----
From: mr_662 [mailto:mr_662_at_dml_yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 10:57 AM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] DeLoreans opinion of his work.


I am currently writing a report on JZD for my degree and I am trying 
to find an article or site about what he thinks of his work. I have 
been looking for absolutly ages but can't seem to find anything. Hope 
you guys can help as its due 2morow. Typical student leaving 
everything to the last minute.

Many Thanks For Your Help



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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 14:24:51 -0500
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>
Subject: RE: Auto tranny governor

You may want to check with Bob "zilla" on the improved auto trans governor.  

Also, check the archives.  There are a number of list members that may be able to repair your controller, as well as modify it to be more reliable.


-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Price [mailto:acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:36 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Auto tranny governor



I need a new auto tran computer and I am wondering about ordering a "new" 
one. Are the governors that DMCHouston, D1, etc carry left over from the 
80s, or are they newer? If they are newer, hopefully they are improved in 
some way? Someone on this message list, a while back, posted that pjgrady 
was offering an improved version of the autotranny governor, but I just 
called them and they said they never offered such a thing.

Another thing. I was surfing the vendor sites today and noticed that prices 
are rising! A refurbished car from Houston used to be 29,500, now its 
32,500, the D1 cars now go for 62,500!!! I also priced the auto tranny govs, 
Houston wants 450, up from 400, and D1 wants 647 dollars!??!!? Eff!

Adam 16683 effing automatic



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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 14:36:35 EST
From: kkoncelik_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: DeLorean Car Show Registration Page

It appears that my registration page went down for a while.  I found out 
about it from some of you trying to register
I hope this did not cause anyone any problems but it was only temporary and 
it is back up now.

thanks

Ken

PS only 30 rooms left 145 gone  (Thanks for the Support) 



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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:23:02 -0600
From: Farrar Hudkins <fhudkins_at_dml_uno.edu>
Subject: E! True Hollywood Story

Hi, list:

I taped the "E! True Hollywood Story: John DeLorean" this morning. For
all its re-use of sound bites and other flaws, it's still kinda neat to
see video of JZD and the DMC-12. If anybody would like a copy (NTSC,
either VCD [yeah, I'm a geek] or VHS) let me know.

Regards,
Farrar Hudkins
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www.wwno.org
504-280-7000




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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:29:53 -0500
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Auto tranny governor

> Someone on this message list, a while back, posted that pjgrady
> was offering an improved version of the autotranny governor, but I just
> called them and they said they never offered such a thing.

That was me who posted that.  When I bought mine, Rob offered me two
versions of the computer governor.  One cost a few dollars more (I think it
was around 3 or 4 dollars more, but compared to the total cost of around
$400, it was nickels & dimes.)  I shouldn't say that one version was better
than the other version.  I'm not really sure now what the differences were.
They might have been made by different companies or had slightly different
styles.  That happened more than a year ago, so maybe PJ Grady only has one
version now.

I am curious to know what is different inside the new computers -- if it is
a different design completely or just the original circuit board with better
capacitors.  I didn't want to open mine to find out.  If you repair your
original computer then you will know what you have.  The obvious is to
replace the two capacitors and add some shunting diodes.  But there are
other things that can go wrong, too such as a switch inside that can get
dirty contacts.  If you don't feel up to the job, I know there are people on
the DML who would do it for you.  Or just get one from a vendor like I did.

Walt    Tampa, FL




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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 21:56:48 -0000
From: "Paul Salsbury" <paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com>
Subject: Site update and thanks

Hi all

I don't want to be accused of keep flagging my site, This will be the last time, however I have now brought it right up to date on my restoration of #6463.

I even did a brave thing tonight and totalled up all my parts invoices to see what it has cost me so far......ooo err and it was not as much as I thought  :-)

Prices are at the end of the page.

Thanks to every one who has helped me get this far with the restoration, and answering those sometimes trivial questions.

Paul
#6463
  


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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 15:30:39 EST
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Auto tranny governor

HI,
     I installed a trans gov this summer.  Luckily there was one on ebay for 
$300 at the time.  But I did talk to someone at PJ Grady and the company who 
originally made the govenor is still producing them so they havent been 
sitting around for 20 years.  They are not really "Improved" but Grady said 
they seem to work better than the originals.  I would say Grady is your best 
bet as they are not NOS parts.

good luck
David


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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 14:06:31 -0800 (PST)
From: Dick Ryan <deloreanbiker_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: SUPER WHITE HEADLIGHTS

Is this really true?  I drive mine at night just as I
would any other car.  Why wouldn't you?

Dick Ryan
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
--- Bob Brandys <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I think they are a great idea.  However, very few of
> us drive our D at night.
> 
> Bob


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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 21:54:49 -0000
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: A thank you to the fine Senator

There are a lot of wires runing into the fuel tank. How do you think 
the fuel gauge works! It becomes a hazard when there is a spark. The 
energy released by the arc causes heat which in the presence of fuel 
vapors and the right amount of oxygen wil cause an explosion. Luckly 
the conditions to cause this don't happen often. It is a bad idea to 
alow fuel to remain in the boot with the pump because it will 
deteriorate the boots and cause a gas smell. Also there is the SMALL 
chance of ignition. The best thing you can do is just replace the two 
boots and probably also the suction hose. While in there inspect the 
tank for dirt and water and the baffle for correct placement. Be 
careful with the gas. Do not allow it to come in contact with your 
skin and if you do wash immediatly. Drain the tank as completely as 
you can into an approved container. Modern gasoline is dangerous as 
some of the additives go right through the skin and into your liver! 
You'll find out when you get older how bad it is for your liver! Wires 
themselves do not cause sparks, it's when the conductors touch (the 
insulation breaks down) that is the problem.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757
BTW arcing in a tank is what did in Appollo 11 or at least that's what 
they think did it.



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_f...> wrote:
> *****  Moderator's Note  *****
> Regardless of the likelihood of a spark from the fuel pump,
> a leaking fuel system is ALWAYS a hazard.  
> *****
> 
> Can the wires that connect to the fuel pump produce a spark? I 
really do
> need to know how serious this is since the DeLorean is my daily car. 
I've
> never heard of a DeLorean's gas tank exploding due to gas being 
trapped
> above the fuel pump, so I'm guessing that this is just a case of 
something
> that looks scary.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> -Christian
> 
> On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Scott Mueller wrote:
> 
> > Only very dangerous if a spark is available to ignite the 
gasoline, then
> > KABOOM
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Christian Williams [mailto:delorean_at_dml_f...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 12:48 PM
> >
> >
> > Yes, I had an inch or two of gas
> > on top of my fuel pump, right where the 2 wires connect to it. I 
imagine
> > it's a leak where the hoses connect inside the fuel pump boot. 
What should
> > be used to seal these 2 connections better?
> >
> > How dangerous is this? I've been driving the car like this daily 
for quite
> > a while.
> >
> > -Christian
> >
> >
> >
> > To address comments privately to the moderating team, please 
address:
> > moderator_at_dml_d...
> >
> > To search the archives or view files, log in at 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >




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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:38:30 -0500
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Xenarc HID (was: SUPER WHITE HEADLIGHTS)

I saw the Diamond headlights on eBay a while back and even bid on them.  I
researched the obvious and found that the same guy was auctioning several
batches of these listed for other makes of cars.  I picked out ones for an
old Mustang which coincidently uses the same headlight as the DeLorean.
There was no sense in bidding on the one specifically listed for the
DeLorean because there were too many people running the price up.  I ended
up getting outbid on the Mustang lights at the last minute anyway and am
glad that happened.

I wanted all my headlights to match, so I considered bidding on two sets.
Then one set I would install different bulbs in for my high beams.  Since my
intent was to eventually use HID bulbs for my low beams, I sent the seller
an e-mail asking him if it were possible to get the headlight bodies without
the bulbs and to combine 2 pairs to save on shipping.  After getting no
reply and experiencing much confusion concerning what is street legal, I
bought the real HID Xenarc lights from Sylvania's web site.  Go to
http://www.sylvania.com/ and follow the menu to the automotive lighting
section.  This kit is complete and certified to be street legal.  It
replaces ALL the headlights -- low beams & high beams.  The biggest
complication with hooking them up is that they draw a lot of current as they
warm up.  This is too much for the OEM headlight circuit to handle, so the
instructions say to run a new power feed to the ballasts.  They draw a peak
(per side) of 12.5 amps when starting but draw only 3.5 amps (at 13.5 volts)
when warmed up.  If you do the math, this is 47.25 watts per side.  For the
amount of light output, nothing else can come close.  The way these operate
is that the low beams are HID and stay on even while the incandescent high
beams are on.  If they weren't set up this way, then the HIDs would have to
warm up again every time you went back to your low beams.  Sylvania makes
them to be a matched set and says to only replace with the exact Sylvania
part.  Otherwise the beam pattern may not be street legal.  The HID fixtures
are a sealed unit and probably not meant to be disassembled.  The ballasts
are separate and connect with a high voltage wire.  The high beams are not
sealed beams and have a replaceable bulb.

I have seen enough eyebrowed DeLoreans that I am satisfied that it is not
caused by heat from the lights.  The ones with eyebrows were left in the sun
for too many years.  Besides, the eyebrows form over the high beams which
are used less.  The OEM low beams also have a high beam assist.  If
headlight heat were the cause, this should produce more eyebrow than the
dedicated high beams, and they don't.

Unfortunately, it may be a month before I can find time to install the
Xenarcs.  But I can say that they are top quality.  They come in a cool
black box that hinges open as a display case.  The cardboard even has some
kind of perfume in it.  For the price, it better smell good!  The Sylvania
web site has the installation manual available in PDF format.  When I get it
done, I'll post some photos and give an explanation.

Does anyone know any headlight adjustment procedures other than using one of
those mega dollar alignment fixtures?

Walt    Tampa, FL




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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 22:50:40 -0000
From: "dmc24000" <delorean_at_dml_ramblerman.com>
Subject: Parking brake handle disconnected...

I just bought my first DeLorean. It has only 24,000 miles on it. It 
has always been garaged and is in excellent condition. However, the 
two parking brake cables that connect to the parking brake handle 
inside are disconnected. I've fixed this type of problem on other cars 
before, but when I started to dig into this problem it looks like I 
have to take out the driver's seat to remove the bracket to reconnect 
the two cables. IS THIS RIGHT. It seems a bit excessive, but I can't 
see any other way to fish the cables back on to that bracket with the 
two slotted holes. Also, I am left to wonder why it would have come 
off in the first place. The cables and the crimped-on cable ends are 
intact, and the bracket holes don't look oversized. Any help would 
be appreciated. Thanks...

Daniel (Proud Owner)
VIN 10920




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Message: 20
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 17:29:22 -0600
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: Sunstar models - scratch and dent sale

We've got a limited quantity of the Sunstar DeLoreans (stock version only)
that either have damaged boxes or some damage to the model itself. if anyone
is interested in these at $20 each (plus shipping), please SEND ME AN
E-MAIL. First come, first served - great if you are attempting a RHD
conversion or some other custom work on a model or aren't concerned about
the condition of the packaging.

James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
Houston, Texas 

281/568-9573
800/USA-DMC1
http://www.delorean.com 




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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 18:53:18 EST
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: Re: Fuel pressure at the injectors?

In a message dated 1/9/02 12:14:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, Whalt_at_dml_att.net 
writes:

<< > I cannot figure out why, with minimal air-plate
 > deflection, not all of the injectors fire...but deflecting the plate
 > further they all fire equally.
 >
 > Bad Injectors?  Faulty Fuel Dist.?
  >>
Eric,
I saw John Hurvey's post about your question. John  has access to rebuilt 
distributors and in the event that the supply of good cores become scarce, he 
can help you get a functionally equivalent distributor to get you back on the 
road. Looks like you've gotten a good deal of valuable information about your 
problem. In any case, if at all possible avoid  disassembling your 
distributor. Have it rebuilt by a qualified shop only. Once you open it up 
move the shims you're in trouble and there is no way that I've found for the 
average owner to be able to seal it back up once it comes apart. There is no 
gasket separating the upper and lower halves and it seems to use a special 
sealant and the stainless steel diaphgram only . Johns web site is at 
http://www.specialtauto.com.

Jim Vin 6147



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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 01:53:55 +0100
From: "Stian Birkeland" <delorean_at_dml_online.no>
Subject: Test Track Preservation Project - Calling all DMC owners and enthusiasts!

Hello all,
As you may have heard of, there is a rumour that the current tenants on the site where the old DeLorean factory was are planning to expand their business and eventually destroy the old test track in this process of re-developing the site. For those of you attended Eurofest last May, you will surely agree that if the test track is to disappear then there isn't much left of the birthplace of our DeLoreans...

A good friend of mine Ian Foster (from Northern Ireland, currently living in Hong Kong) has already taken action. 
To cut a long story short - you can join us both in writing the Mayor of Belfast and the various comittees which will definitely notice our interest in preserving the Test Track. If no-one writes, then we can't be sorry later. We may not succeed in saving the Test Track, but then at least we have tried! To use Marty's words from Back to the Future - If you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything! 

If I understand Ian correct, we can have our voice heard but we have to act within 6 months! That is the absolute deadline! Time is running fast so start writing today - individuals, DMC Clubs etc.

Me and Ian suggest that the Test Track "should be preserved as part of our history and heritage" of our beloved DeLoreans - in other words, every DeLorean owner and enthusiast  should be proposing that the City of Belfast  should consider preserving the test-track as both an "Industrial Heritage Site," tourist attraction, and public open space/Park. 

Ian has already got a polite letter back from the letter he wrote saying that all proposals would be considered.
Imagine the effect when the Mayor's office receives letters from all over the world! Its bound to have some sort of impact, and hopefully a positive one!

The Govt are undertaking a major Study in Belfast at present looking at land use issues, etc ... unfortunately the site is privately owned/leased so difficult for the Council to step on the toes of a big local employer if they did want to redevelop the track! But - we have a chance I'm sure!

I guess if there were enough letters from Individuals and DMC Clubs it may help draw their attention to the issue. The Study will be concluded in about 6 months so write now!

The adress:  
F.a.o. Councilor Jim Rogers, The Lord Mayor of Belfast
C/o Members' Room,
City Hall,
Belfast,
BT1 5GS
N.Ireland.

Now, go to the DMC News vault...there you will find a drawing made by Ian - Test Track plan.

Print it, and attach it to your letter. Let's show the world that DeLorean owners CARE!

Best wishes
Mr. Stian Birkeland
Norway

VIN # 06759







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Message: 23
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 00:52:33 -0000
From: "tmpintnl" <tobyp_at_dml_katewwdb.com>
Subject: Re: gear change

Paul - The adjustment that you are referring to is very effective at 
shifting the entire pattern over.  After I changed my clutch last 
year, (which required removal of all of the shifting linkage), I found 
that I had no reverse.  The pattern had been shifted over when I 
reinstalled everything without doing any fine adjustments.  I read the 
manual, and performed the adjustment.  It allowed me to "fine-tune" 
the exact location of the pattern.  Bottom line - go for it.

Toby Peterson  VIN 2248
Winged1

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Paul Salsbury" <paul.salsbury_at_dml_b...> wrote:
> I have just replaced the Shifter boot on my 5 speed. The new one has 
the metal frame around the bottom as opposed to the plastic one.
> 
> The problem I now have is I have difficulty getting it into reverse, 
as I can't get the gear stick over to the left enough with out pulling 
Sharpe into the side of the plate the boot sits in.
> 
> Looking in the manual at F:07:01 on gear change tube, It sounds like 
this simple adjustment, will move the entire shift pattern towards the 
passenger. Is that all I need to do, as there seems to be plenty of 
space over that side??
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Paul
> #6463





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Message: 24
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 01:12:42 -0000
From: "tmpintnl" <tobyp_at_dml_katewwdb.com>
Subject: Trailing Arm Bolts - Coming soon

Hello List - 

I have received a few inquiries concerning the status of the new TAB's 
that were discussed extensively on the list.  I contacted the 
manufacture regarding the schedule for completion and shipping of the 
order, and he got back to me today.  The estimated shipping date from 
the company is February 1st.  The order was placed in the first week 
of December, and they spent some time finalizing the engineering 
definition drawings, process specification and control sheets, and the 
manufacturing planning documentation.  Then, the company began a two 
week factory shut-down that happens every year at Christmas time, when 
all the required maintenance on the machinery is done, and factory 
upgrades are accomplished.  The paperwork was released after they got 
back to work, so we will be seeing the bolts in a few weeks.  Thank 
you all for your patience.  Giving birth to custom designed and 
manufactured bolts is a complex process.

As an aside to this message, I am a bit perplexed about the nearly 30% 
of the respondents to the poll who "don't know, and don't care".  In 
my mind, this is not the most beneficial attitude to take regarding an 
important component that can have serious safety ramifications.  You 
will note that, of the cars owned by people who took the time to 
respond to the poll, about 1/3 have had some kind of problem, 1/3 have 
been free of challenges, and 1/3 don't have a clue.  

Toby Peterson  VIN 2248
Winged1




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Message: 25
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 22:08:33 EST
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Auto tranny governor

Adam, Normally the governors can be upgraded with a few new parts. I can add 
them and you can try it out.
John hervey
http://www.specialtauto.com/



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