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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 867
Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:05 AM

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There are 19 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: BTTF VideoCamera
From: "Dave Stragand" <dave.stragand_at_dml_ketchum.com>

2. Re: Leather Treatment
From: Nigel C Beatson <nbeatson1_at_dml_orange.net>

3. Leather treatment
From: Nigel C Beatson <nbeatson1_at_dml_orange.net>

4. Re: Re: Insurance...
From: "Adam Price" <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>

5. Windshield Wiper Switch - Where can I get one?
From: "goodcaptainbob" <bob.hlavacek_at_dml_snet.net>

6. Re: need photos of inside the door
From: Bob Brandys <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com>

7. Need used manual LH transmission bracket, please!
From: "shirazcupala" <shirazcupala_at_dml_attbi.com>

8. RE: Re: Insurance...
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>

9. Re: Windshield Wiper Switch - Where can I get one?
From: "dmc6960" <ultra_at_dml_isd.net>

10. Re: Re: Insurance...
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com

11. Alignment Toe-In Question
From: "jwit6dmc12" <jwit6_at_dml_cs.com>

12. Re: Windshield Wiper Switch - Where can I get one?
From: sand131_at_dml_aol.com

13. Re: Re: Insurance...
From: "dmc24000" <delorean_at_dml_ramblerman.com>

14. Re: On the prowl for a used radio
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>

15. Re: Need used manual LH transmission bracket, please!
From: Paul Salsbury <paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com>

16. Re: On the prowl for a used radio
From: "Ed Garbade" <edgarbade_at_dml_hotmail.com>

17. Factory Clock questions
From: "deloreanfl" <ericp_at_dml_tampabay.rr.com>

18. Re: Advice needed: Unfortunate occurrance
From: "Ed Garbade" <edgarbade_at_dml_hotmail.com>

19. Re: Re: Windshield Wiper Switch - Where can I get one?
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>





Message: 1
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 11:13:53 -0500
From: "Dave Stragand" <dave.stragand_at_dml_ketchum.com>
Subject: Re: BTTF VideoCamera

[Moderator Note: Thanks, Dave.  End of thread.]

JVC GR-C1 "VideoMovie"

It was the first all-in-one camcorder, introduced in March of 1984.  It
uses VHS-C tapes, and was very high-tech for 1985; an obvious choice for
"Doc Brown".  Most consumer video cameras before that time used a
seperate VCR that you carried with a shoulder strap.
 
Zenith had an identical camcorder (JVC under another name), and is
identical except for its silver-gray color.
 
You can see a picture of the JVC version at
http://www.jvc.ch/de/inside/inside_2.htm  (Page is in German though, and
the carry handle isn't snapped on in the picture.)
 
-Dave


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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 16:26:10 GMT
From: Nigel C Beatson <nbeatson1_at_dml_orange.net>
Subject: Re: Leather Treatment

When I first got my Delorean the seats looked OK but were very hard and 
brittle. I bought a product called Gliptone which is advertised in most 
UK classic car magazines. It consists of a leather cleaner, color 
restorer and a treatment that helps the leather regain most of its 
original suppleness. It takes quite a while to correctly clean and 
treat the seats but the results are fantastic. It also gives your seats 
a nice 'new' leather smell.

I'm sure the company that makes it has a web site, I'll find out what 
it is and post it.

Cheers
Nigel
vin 02677

----- Original Message -----
from: "Digital Devices" <delorean_at_dml_digital-devices.net>
date: Wednesday, January 9, 2002 5:42 am
subject: [DML] Leather Treatment

> Well … my seats are in need of some serious TLC!
> 
> They look nice appearance wise .. but are hard and brittle to the 
> touch.. stiff…. Has anyone got any miracle products? Or would 
> refinishing the
> seats still be the best thing to do?

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 16:37:08 GMT
From: Nigel C Beatson <nbeatson1_at_dml_orange.net>
Subject: Leather treatment

Further to my earlier post, Gliptone can be found at 
www.liquidleather.com

They have several leathercare products that are worth investing in to 
help keep your seats healthy.

Nigel
vin 02677

ps I have no interest in this company, I'm just a very satisfied 
customer.




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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 09:29:46 -0800
From: "Adam Price" <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Insurance...

Could someone please tell me what company they use for insurance on their 
daily drivers?


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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 18:05:32 -0000
From: "goodcaptainbob" <bob.hlavacek_at_dml_snet.net>
Subject: Windshield Wiper Switch - Where can I get one?

In taking out the steering column and replaving it, the windshield 
wiper switch on the right hand side of the column fell apart.  I have 
all the parts but we couldn't figure out how to put it back together 
again.  I reattached it but it only works for a few wipes when I push 
it in to activate the washer.  Does anyone know where I can get an 
assembly or can anyone explain how it goes back together?

Thanks, Bob Hlavacek  10961 




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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 13:38:12 -0600
From: Bob Brandys <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com>
Subject: Re: need photos of inside the door



Walter,

When designing and installing the full size power windows for the 97™ DeLorean, I ran
into the same concerns.  I noticed that the heavy duty replacement drives as well as the
stock equipment occasionally hit the outer door skin during operation.

The main reason I found for this was the difference in curves of the outer skin and the
slight flexing of the shaft for the spring worm drive depending upon the friction of the
window in its tracks.

I decided to braze a plate to the back of the tube shaft to prevent the flexing.  This
also allowed me to curve the shaft to EXACTLY fit the curvature of the door skin. This
gave me the room to fit in the full size windows.

BOB




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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 20:01:14 -0000
From: "shirazcupala" <shirazcupala_at_dml_attbi.com>
Subject: Need used manual LH transmission bracket, please!

This weekend while fixing a rear CV boot I found a nasty problem.  
My LH (driver's side) manual transmission bracket is in 3 pieces.  
It's been welded at least a half-dozen times and is now unusable.  
Unfortunately none of the vendors have this part.  I also checked 
with a local junkyard that had a DeLorean but they don't have the 
part either.  I'm hoping that someone has a parts car or misc stash 
with this part who would be willing to sell it to me.  The part 
number (for database lookup) is 106341.  Please email me privately 
if you can help me!  shirazcupala (at) attbi.com

Thank you!
Shiraz

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DeLorean #2860
Seattle, WA




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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 16:35:07 -0500
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>
Subject: RE: Re: Insurance...

This is by far the most repeated thread in the history of the DML.

PLEASE read the archives, you will find more information on this subject than you can digest.

Moderators: Can we have a permanent ban on this question, unless there is some massive change in the insurance industry!


-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Price [mailto:acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 12:30 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DML] Re: Insurance...


Could someone please tell me what company they use for insurance on their 
daily drivers?


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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 22:13:23 -0000
From: "dmc6960" <ultra_at_dml_isd.net>
Subject: Re: Windshield Wiper Switch - Where can I get one?

I have have this exact same problem, and asked the exact same question 
about a month ago.  I didn't get a response.  I will most likely be 
meeting up with Rob Grady in about a month, so I'm going to bring my 
disassembled unit with me and ask him how it goes.  If nobody responds 
untill then, I'll let you know what I find out.

Jim Reeve
MNDMC - Minnesota DeLorean Club
DMC-6960


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "goodcaptainbob" <bob.hlavacek_at_dml_s...> wrote:
> In taking out the steering column and replaving it, the windshield 
> wiper switch on the right hand side of the column fell apart.  I 
have 
> all the parts but we couldn't figure out how to put it back together 
> again.  I reattached it but it only works for a few wipes when I 
push 
> it in to activate the washer.  Does anyone know where I can get an 
> assembly or can anyone explain how it goes back together?
> 
> Thanks, Bob Hlavacek  10961




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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 17:54:17 EST
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: Re: Re: Insurance...

In a message dated 1/14/02 4:36:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com writes:

<< Could someone please tell me what company they use for insurance on their 
 daily drivers?
  >>
Allstate. They know the car and had an early involvement with it's safety 
designs.
Jim 6147



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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 23:25:35 -0000
From: "jwit6dmc12" <jwit6_at_dml_cs.com>
Subject: Alignment Toe-In Question

The DMC manual states that toe in should be set to 3 degrees. How 
specifically is this measured? I want to make sure I thoroughly 
understand this before I take it to a less than Delorean familiar 
shop to have it done. 

Is this measurement taken from the centerline formed by both axles? 
In which case the straight ahead wheel centerline would be at 87 
degrees from the chassis axle centerline, instead of 90 degrees? 

Is it 3 degrees per wheel, or 3 degrees total? In which case it would 
be 1.5 degrees per wheel, or 88.5 degrees per wheel?

As usual any help would be appreciated...

Thanks,
Jim Witherspoon EFI Vin 6147




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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 19:15:16 EST
From: sand131_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Windshield Wiper Switch - Where can I get one?

Sorry that I can't tell you how it goes back together but I have a NOS 
#105176 WASH/WIPE CONTROL avail. for $86.00 I give 20% off to any DML member 
on any of the parts I have.
Ralph
Vin 1606



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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 04:00:45 -0000
From: "dmc24000" <delorean_at_dml_ramblerman.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Insurance...

Adam,

I use State Farm for insurance on my daily drivers. However, when I 
got my D. a couple of weeks ago I insured it through them and they 
wanted $900 for 6 months!!! That's right, not for a year, FOR 6 
MONTHS! Even though I am 23, you are only two years younger and
getting it at half price, and I don't even have any speeding tickets
(well, there was that one little fender bender, but my 1977 Chevy 
Blazer 4x4 didn't feel a thing). I have been happy with State Farm so 
far, but I think now, after hearing what people are paying to insure 
their D's I will go to State Farm tomorrow and have a long talk with 
my agent.

Daniel
VIN 10920


Adam Price wrote:

> Could someone please tell me what company they use for insurance on
their
> daily drivers?






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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 04:37:45 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: Re: On the prowl for a used radio

You may want to look at one of the Kenwood units. I have one on my 
car, and it really doesn't stand out. I's also adjustable so that you 
can get the angle of which the faceplace flips around to fit flush 
with the console. If you're really a stickler, I'm sure that you 
could even texture the front to match the matte finish.

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"

Note: After that post, I can never drink fruit punch again!



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin_at_dml_v...> wrote:
> I know alot of people have replaced their radios and might have 
their old
> ones lying around. I'd like to buy a good, used radio since mine 
never came
> with one. I'm afraid that a shiny, new one will stand out like a 
turd in a
> punch bowl.
> 
> If anyone has one, email me privately.




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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 10:47:36 +0000 (GMT)
From: Paul Salsbury <paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Need used manual LH transmission bracket, please!

Try Walter in Tampa I know he had a pair when I was
after them.

Cheers
Paul
#6463 

--- shirazcupala <shirazcupala_at_dml_attbi.com> wrote: >
This weekend while fixing a rear CV boot I found a
> nasty problem.  
> My LH (driver's side) manual transmission bracket is
> in 3 pieces.  
> It's been welded at least a half-dozen times and is
> now unusable.  
> Unfortunately none of the vendors have this part.  I
> also checked 
> with a local junkyard that had a DeLorean but they
> don't have the 
> part either.  I'm hoping that someone has a parts
> car or misc stash 
> with this part who would be willing to sell it to
> me.  The part 
> number (for database lookup) is 106341.  Please
> email me privately 
> if you can help me!  shirazcupala (at) attbi.com
> 
> Thank you!
> Shiraz

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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 07:34:22 -0500
From: "Ed Garbade" <edgarbade_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: On the prowl for a used radio

Don't know if this would do you any good but there was a recient post from a 
guy in Seattle that was looking for some type of bracket.  He mentioned a 
car in a junkyard out there.  Maybe you could contact him to get the 
junkyard's number if all else fails.  If you need help getting his email 
address form the Yahoo site, let me know (I wrote him to see if he recalled 
whether or not that car had louvers).

One other option to consider is one of those new "invisible" radios.  When 
off the face plate hides so it looks like an empty (black) slot.

As a side note, I had never heard your comment about the punch bowl before.  
Almost fell out of my chair laughing.  Will keep that tucked away for future 
reference.

Good luck!

Ed
10541

>From: Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin_at_dml_vantagep.com>
>Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
>To: "'dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com'" <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [DML] On the prowl for a used radio
>Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 09:31:52 -0500
>
>I know alot of people have replaced their radios and might have their old
>ones lying around. I'd like to buy a good, used radio since mine never came
>with one. I'm afraid that a shiny, new one will stand out like a turd in a
>punch bowl.
>

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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 12:09:36 -0000
From: "deloreanfl" <ericp_at_dml_tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Factory Clock questions

I've had several people ask me about the repair on the factory clock.
I guess these were sort of rare and they stopped putting them in 
sometime late 1981?? (Anybody got more info on this?)

Anyhow, I placed two pictures in the "PHOTOS" section of this eGroup.
You can find them in the folder marked "ERIC P's..."

Eric
Dunedin, FL
Vin# 05557
ericp_at_dml_tampabay.rr.com





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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 08:06:50 -0500
From: "Ed Garbade" <edgarbade_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Advice needed: Unfortunate occurrance

Aaron,
I'm sorry to hear of your accident.  What I gather from your note is that 
you are OK and that is the most important thing.  That said there is two 
major points I feel you MUST keep in mind.

First, insurance companies are in business to make money.  One way they do 
this is by keeping claim payouts down.  Bottom line is know what you are 
signing, keep good records, take pictures, and call on the expert vendors if 
it appears the company is trying to short change you.  You know what is 
right for your car and if the insurance company is doing something wrong, 
that is when you need the lawyer.

Second, NEVER sign a release for the insurance company to get your medical 
records without a lawyer's advice.  I had what I considered a minor accident 
and being the good guy decided to handle it myself.  They sent me a release 
and I signed.

A couple months later my left side (mostly neck) started hurting and I 
started dropping things.  Went to the doctor and bottom line was I had a 
problem causing a minimum of 5% disability unquestionably related to the 
accident and a total disability of 15+% most of which was likely related to 
the accident.

Because I had signed the release, the insurance company dug up my medical 
records back to my teens (I'm 41 and was in a accident when I was 16 I 
believe).  They got their experts to relate every incident in my whole life 
(twisted knee, torn cartilage, strained back, …) to that disability.  I even 
had a doctor, acknowledged as a medical expert by the insurance company, to 
testify that the other injuries couldn’t have caused the damage shown in my 
MRIs.  To make a long story short, my lawyer gave up and I got $5k.

Ed
10541


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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 14:39:45 +0000
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Re: Windshield Wiper Switch - Where can I get one?

Paul Salsbury got an exact replacement from a scrapyard from a 1983 mini. Cost about £5.

Oh the fun of cross-referencing parts.... We both got a rear view mirror for £5 out of an
80's Ford (Granada or Escort). Exact match! Anyone know what the older style door locks
came from?

Martin
#1458

dmc6960 wrote:

> I have have this exact same problem, and asked the exact same question
> about a month ago.  I didn't get a response.  I will most likely be
> meeting up with Rob Grady in about a month, so I'm going to bring my
> disassembled unit with me and ask him how it goes.  If nobody responds
> untill then, I'll let you know what I find out.
>
> Jim Reeve
> MNDMC - Minnesota DeLorean Club
> DMC-6960




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