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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 873
Date: Sunday, January 20, 2002 12:43 PM

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There are 9 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. New Book..DeLorean..early career_at_dml_GMC
From: Senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com

2. RE: RE: 20 year old appology!!!
From: Senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com

3. Re: Novice Maintenance Questions
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

4. Re: Best Built DeLoreans
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

5. RE: Re: Service in Charlotte
From: "Palatinus, Joe" <jopalatinus_at_dml_davidson.edu>

6. Interesting site
From: "Paul Salsbury" <paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com>

7. the width of the delorean
From: "delorean66" <delorean66_at_dml_yahoo.com>

8. Re: New Book..DeLorean..early career_at_dml_GMC
From: "Gabriel H. Prado" <gprado_at_dml_josephreina.com>

9. RE: New Book..DeLorean..early career_at_dml_GMC
From: "Jack Stiefel" <jackstiefel_at_dml_sacketmansion.com>





Message: 1
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 10:42:53 -0500
From: Senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: New Book..DeLorean..early career_at_dml_GMC


Running thru Borders Books, found a new book about DeLorean and his early career at GM. The book is "Glory Days" written by Jim Wageners. $29.95

Sincerely,
Michael Pack



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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 10:48:51 -0500
From: Senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: RE: RE: 20 year old appology!!!

Bridge of Weir leather, the OEM supplier of DMC leather, remared on their web site that they also preform restoration services for cleints leather needs.

In addition, they also mention on the web site that they supplied leather for DMC and Rolls Royce.

Sincerely,
Michael Pack
"JDL" <jdl_at_dml_interax.com> wrote:

>>-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul Salsbury [mailto:paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com]
>Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 3:03 PM
>To: doc-uk_at_dml_yahoogroups.com; dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [DML] 20 year old appology!!!
>
>In the process of the restoration of Vin6463 I needed to get the Seats
>recovered as the leather was seriously cracked.
>
>Long story short, I found a company in Belfast that originally produced the
>seat covers for DMC, and they happily took on the job to restore my seats.
>This time totally leather, no PVC sides or back.



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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 11:03:46 EST
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Novice Maintenance Questions

In a message dated 1/18/02 3:16:21 PM Central Standard Time, 
govenorofvirginia_at_dml_yahoo.com writes:


> 1 - what kind of oil should I use?
> 2 - Where can I get the right kind of filter?
> 3 - Can Jiffy Lube handle an oil change? (I really do
> 

Hello,

since i am an assistant manager at Jiffy Lube, i think i can answer your 
questions!  just look at your owners manual for what type of oil to use.  you 
can use 5w30, 10w30, and 10w40 for most types of weather conditions (and it 
is easy to find).  i buy mobil 10w40.  works for me!

if you want to go to jiffy lube, you shouldn't have a problem.  but you will 
want to bring your own oil filter because we don't normally carry the correct 
one.  Jiffy Lube has no problem if you bring your own filter.  we can order 
one for you but you will have to wait for a while as someone at an auto parts 
store brings one and then it might not be the exact filter you want. so just 
bring your own from a vendor!  Jiffy Lube only has 5w30, 10w30, and 15w40, 
however any of those weights are actually ok.  probably go with 10w30 since 
15w40 has an extra charge since it's only in bottles.  

as for the drain plug, we have the right tool.  it's actually used for 
imports which have transfer case or differential drain plugs.  happens to be 
what the delorean drain plug needs!  it will be funny though - at first they 
will want to open the 'hood'!!  then they're find out the engine is in the 
back!  you will want to tell them how to open the engine compartment 
correctly since i would never want someone who doens't know what they are 
doing to try to open the engine cover when they don't know where the release 
is!!

good luck!
Andy

Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102


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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 12:17:16 -0500
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Best Built DeLoreans

> Generally, knowing the VIN can tell you something about a DeLorean's
condition 20 years ago, but tells you nothing about its condition
ay.    - Mike Substelny, this week's DML moderator]

- and -

> i heard the very first ones of the  assembly line
> had door fitting problems

To substantiate the claim concerning the door fitting problems, here is a
quote from July '81 Car & Driver, "As luck would have it, the first 500 sets
of doors were pressed on sloppy prototype tooling.  They simply can't be
made to fit properly, in our opinion.  If we were John Z., the first 500
cars, with those doors, would be permanently banned from sale.  Instead,
they'd fan out to every dealer across the land to become static displays
(with the doors UP, so fits couldn't be checked)."

While discussing a door adjustment problem with Rob Grady, he mentioned that
VINs from 500 to 1000 (the first 500 production cars) had doors that were
slightly longer front-to-back giving less room for adjustment.

So if you are shopping for a DeLorean that is to be put to any real use, I
would steer clear of these early VINs.

Walt    Tampa, FL





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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 14:25:09 -0500
From: "Palatinus, Joe" <jopalatinus_at_dml_davidson.edu>
Subject: RE: Re: Service in Charlotte

Many people it seems as asked about service in Charlotte.  I live about
20 miles north of charlotte in Davidson, and I took my Car to the
griffin Brother tire place in Cornelius.  Ask for tony.  They do tires,
but will also do many basic mechanical things as weel fuel pumps oil
changes etc.  I got a letter from A british car club in the Lake Norman
Area, They are having an informal meeting (nno dues) at the Atlanta
Bread company acroos from Target off exit 26 on I-77 at 9:00 on Saturday
Jan 26.  I will be bringing my delorean if anyone in the Charlotte Lake
Norman Area would like to come, we can talk cars. Just FYI
Joe Palatinus
VIN 17167 6808



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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 22:30:37 -0000
From: "Paul Salsbury" <paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com>
Subject: Interesting site

[MODERATOR NOTE-  depending in your email server, you MAY have to paste this URL back together in manually in pieces. It does work]-dave


Whilst rummaging around the web for a new car for my wife, In the Auto trader area we came across this page, very interesting...

http://www.askgeeves.com/main/metaAnswer.asp?t=m&s=a&MetaEngine=Sprinks+by+About.com&logQID=D3E0C8F36651BD4DA66E73D77D06A2FC&frames=&site_name=Jeeves&ads=&MetaTopic=&MetaURL=&EngineOrdinal=1&ItemOrdinal=&qCategory=news&ask=auto+trader+Northern+Ireland+metasearch&MetaList=http%3A%2F%2Fvintagecars.about.com%2Flibrary%2Fweekly%2Faa031501a.htm%3Fiam%3Dspkask%26terms%3Dauto+trader+Northern+Ireland&x=20&y=9

This works too:
http://vintagecars.about.com/library/weekly/aa031501a.htm?iam=spkask&terms=auto%20trader%20Northern%20Ireland


Yes it is all one URL

Regards

Paul
#6463


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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 21:53:57 -0000
From: "delorean66" <delorean66_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: the width of the delorean

Hello, 

The last time that I asked this, I got different answers. I know that 
the length of the car is 168 inches and the height is 44.8, but I 
want to know exactly what the actual WIDTH of the car is. Some places 
state 73.1 inches and others state 78.3. Which one's the right one? 
Can anyone clarify?

Thanks

Grigor
www.delorean.8k.com




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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 14:59:57 -0600
From: "Gabriel H. Prado" <gprado_at_dml_josephreina.com>
Subject: Re: New Book..DeLorean..early career_at_dml_GMC

which is the book that has a drawing of an airplane with cars stacked
inside?

Gabe




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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2002 23:59:23 -0500
From: "Jack Stiefel" <jackstiefel_at_dml_sacketmansion.com>
Subject: RE: New Book..DeLorean..early career_at_dml_GMC

That would be Stainless Steel Illusion.

Jack & Virginia Stiefel
1981 DeLorean Vin 3461 August 1981 Build (Ours)
http://www.sacketmansion.com/delorean
1988 Jaguar XJS-C V-12 (Mine) http://www.sacketmansion.com/jaguar
2001 PT Cruiser (Hers)
Visit us at http://www.sacketmansion.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Gabriel H. Prado [mailto:gprado_at_dml_josephreina.com] 
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 4:00 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DML] New Book..DeLorean..early career_at_dml_GMC

which is the book that has a drawing of an airplane with cars stacked
inside?



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