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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 880
Date: Saturday, January 26, 2002 6:57 AM

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There are 21 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Faded Signal Lenses
From: Holler <thehauntfactory_at_dml_att.net>

2. Re: HID headlight wiring
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

3. Re: Re: Need used manual LH transmission bracket, please!
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

4. Delorean in the news
From: "dherv10" <dherv10_at_dml_aol.com>

5. Re: Please help
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

6. AZ Club Event w/ DMC Houston -- Report
From: "Ryan McCaffrey" <ryanjm_at_dml_home.com>

7. BTTF car and Dinner
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

8. Re: "Chirping" sound
From: Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>

9. Re: Please help
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

10. ebay Delorean 601095323
From: "erikgeerdink" <erikgeerdink_at_dml_yahoo.com>

11. Re: Please help
From: "Kevin Creason" <dmc4687_at_dml_mindspring.com>

12. Re: "Chirping" sound
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

13. Re: "Chirping" sound
From: "Adam Price" <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>

14. DeLorean in Barrett-Jackson Auction
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>

15. Re: JZD?
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com

16. HELP- Any shops in VA???
From: "David Silek" <dsilek_at_dml_msn.com>

17. RE: Please help
From: "Mike Griese" <mike.griese_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>

18. Poll results for dmcnews
From: dmcnews

19. Re: re:headlinings
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

20. 1/43 Model
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_att.net>

21. The Upcoming ETDOC Event, March 9-10 in the Smokies
From: Aaron Posey <cadysrme_at_dml_yahoo.com>





Message: 1
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 22:48:30 -0800
From: Holler <thehauntfactory_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Faded Signal Lenses

> As an artist, I've used a product from Michael's crafts (or Ben Franklin's) called 'Glass
> Stain'.  It is an inexpensive,  transluscent liquid that is used to create faux stained
> glass art.  It's water based, can be used on plastic, glass and other smooth surfaces.
> You can mix the colors for the right hue.  Once dry, the stain is waterproof.  No opaque
> problems here, but you do want to avoid shaking the bottles, as air bubbles are not
> condusive to a smooth application.  Might be worth a try on your tail lights.

Oliver Holler
VIN#10694


>
>
> CancerMan wrote:
>
> > The amber color on my rear tail lens has faded to a yucky yellow color.
> > Can I use some kind of dye or paint to restore the color?
> > Any suggestions appreciated. -Jeremy
>
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 02:36:22 -0500
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: HID headlight wiring

> I got a pair of HID for my sons 75 olds.  It said that I did not have to
upgrade the
> wiring because the HID light actually draw less amps than a standard
headlight once they
> warm up in a few seconds.
>
> You might want to check this out.  It would save a lot of work.

Bob,

I've thought a lot about this.  After all, the Xenarcs come with 16 gauge
wire running to each ballast which seems pretty light.  But in contrast,
each ballast is switched on with its own Bosch-style 30A relay.  They are
also fused at 20A each.  According to the manual, nominal current draw is
3.5A each, but start up current is 15.0A.  So once the lights are on and
warmed up, current draw is not a problem, but my concern is at initial
startup.  I'm worried that switching both ballasts through one relay would
be too much after several 'on' cycles.  Considering that and the similar
mistake that DeLorean made in the radiator fan circuit, I don't want to
repeat their error with the headlights.  I'm planning on wiring it pretty
close to the way Sylvania suggests.  Only I would rather put the relays in
the relay compartment instead of in the front of the car.  For now it looks
like I'm going to run two new power leads (one for each ballast) up to the
front of the main wiring harness.  Then I'll put a plug/socket which will
continue the run to each ballast.  The grounds would be taken off of the
common spot inside the left wheel.

But before I do this, I'm going to make you some convex mirrors!  I promise
:-)

Walt    Tampa, FL




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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 01:48:18 -0500
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Re: Need used manual LH transmission bracket, please!

> Thank you to everyone who responded to me.  I finally purchased one 
> from Walter Coe.

(taking a bow :-)

> since with the extra power I have I'm worried this 
> new replacement will eventually break as well.

What extra power?  Did you do an engine swap?  Or add a turbo?

Walt    Tampa, FL




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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 04:48:31 -0000
From: "dherv10" <dherv10_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Delorean in the news

Group, Just thought I would let everyone know who keeps up with 
magazine advertising. Motor Age magazine, this is one of the service 
shop magazine did a real nice 5 page write up on the Delorean in the 
Jan 2002 issue. The caption read A Blast From The Past. I will try to 
get more if anyone is intrested or email me for the address.
John hervey





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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 03:33:53 -0000
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Please help

You have 2 options. Order 2 rebuild kits and replace the seals in both 
rear calipers or send the 1 out to a "D" vender and have it rebuilt. 
The first choice is cheapest if you know how to do it but you probably 
should just send both out for rebuild. The piston came out too far and 
the seal must be reseated but because of the age it isn't a good idea 
to try to reseat it. The best thing you can do would be to do ALL 4 
calipers and flush the system competely with Castrol GTLMA DOT 4. 
Inspect all of the hoses too. You don't want to skimp on the BRAKING 
SYSTEM!!!!! Steering and brakes are probably the 2 most important 
systems on the car. Failure of either will cause property damage, 
injury and possibly death!!!!
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Paul Salsbury" <paul.salsbury_at_dml_b...> wrote:
> I have just done a really dumb thing, and need some serious 
suggestion of help before I permanently injure myself.
> 
> Whilst sorting my brake system with new pads I had replaced the 
front and removed the rear drivers side. I was the distracted by a 





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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:01:05 -0700
From: "Ryan McCaffrey" <ryanjm_at_dml_home.com>
Subject: AZ Club Event w/ DMC Houston -- Report

On behalf of everyone in the Arizona DeLorean Club, I just wanted to
publicly thank DeLorean Motor Company of Houston, and specifically Stephen
Wynne, James Espey and Bill Morgan for spending their Saturday morning with
us this past weekend.  About a dozen members of our group met up with DMC at
the annual Barrett-Jackson Classic Car Auction in Scottsdale, which is one
of, if not the largest car auction in the world.  DMC was there as a vendor
with their Carcoon storage units, and to show off their product they used a
motorcycle and (of course) two refurbished DeLoreans, complete with PRV-Plus
engine upgrades, performance suspension kits, HID headlight kits, machined
wheels, and even one of their newest products—heated seats!

The morning began with breakfast and a Q&A session with Mr. Wynne at the
Monterra Restaurant located on the auction grounds.  The club was also shown
some info cards which DMC had printed up featuring a beautiful shot of an ’
82 DeLorean on the front and a list of commonly asked questions and their
answers on the back.  These are being printed up in bulk quantities as we
speak, so clubs can contact DMC for information on ordering them for shows
and such.

After the Q&A we went into the auction and went over the DeLorean that was
in the auction this year.  It was a very clean, early ’81 with gray wheels
and a wide black side stripe and only 3,600 miles.  Stephen estimated it
would go for about $18,000 or so, just because “DeLoreans never do well in
auctions.”  A bidding war broke out, however, and the car went for $27,000!
The whole club cheered, and we then returned to the DMC Carcoon display,
where they also had Sunstar and BTTF Sunstar models for sale in addition to
the Carcoons.

It was a great day for our club and we can’t thanks DMC Houston enough for
spending their time with us.  I’ll try to upload a few pictures to the Files
section of Yahoo soon.

Ryan McCaffrey
VIN #10014
Arizona DeLorean Club


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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:48:49 -0000
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: BTTF car and Dinner

The weather is supposed to be just what I ordered! We are having a 
January thaw and this weekend it is going to be in the 50's and 
sunny!!! The plans now are for most of us to meet at the show between 
around 6:00PM and 8:00PM Saturday evening by the BTTF Delorean (Not 
the Penthouse Pet!!! or the Batmobile. Around 8:45-9:00 we will head 
out to the restaurant and Bob and Gail will give us a presentation 
about the BTTF car during dinner. Don't forget to print out the 
discount coupon for the show and save $2 pp. Directions are also there 
but if you need directions to the restaurant E-mail me offlist. So far 
about 20 people have said they made plans to come.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757 




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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 00:59:01 -0800 (PST)
From: Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>
Subject: Re: "Chirping" sound

I have a chirp in my front left wheel. It only happens when I'm turning
to the right (almost always when on a curved highway entrance or exit
ramp). Don from DMC Garden Grove tells me that this is a warped rotor that
is hitting the brake pad every time it comes around. I confirmed this by
touching the brake pedal juuust slightly when I heard it next, and it
stopped right away.

I've also had a "clicking" from the rear wheel. It turned out that I
didn't have the little springy paperclip looking thing on the rear brakes.
It keeps pressure on the pins so pads don't rattle.

Give either of those a shot.

-Christian

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 RJRavalli_at_dml_AOL.com wrote:

> I've had an annoying "chirping" sound coming from (I think) one of my wheels for awhile now, one of the rear ones I believe.  It only develops after driving for awhile but it goes away when I break.  Any idea on what this could be?  A bearing?  Something wrong with my breaks?
>
> Thanks for any help,
>
> Richard
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:10:04 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Please help

You can partially remove the caliper (workshop manual L:06:01) enough to
place a large "C" clamp on the end of the pistons to retract them back into
the calipers.

DMC Joe
DeLorean Help dmchelp_at_dml_att.net
www.dmc.tv
http://shopping.oraclesmallbusiness.com/dsvstore
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Salsbury" <paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>; <doc-uk_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 3:16 PM
Subject: [DML] Please help


> I have just done a really dumb thing, and need some serious suggestion of
help before I permanently injure myself.
>
> yep the rear pistons closed right up to the disc. And now I can't get them
back in to put in the new pads.
>



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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 18:26:40 -0000
From: "erikgeerdink" <erikgeerdink_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: ebay Delorean 601095323

There is a red Delorean on eBay right now.  I remember seeing this at 
the Cleveland car show in 2000.  I heard from someone there that the 
then owner, or maybe even current owner, was in a serious car 
accident with it.  Then had the car fixed and painted.  Does anyone 
know of any truth to this?  

Erik Geerdink




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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 21:35:55 -0600
From: "Kevin Creason" <dmc4687_at_dml_mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Please help

Get a C-clamp and squeeze on them. You may have to bleed some fluid out.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Salsbury" <paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>; <doc-uk_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:16 PM
Subject: [DML] Please help


> I have just done a really dumb thing, and need some serious suggestion of
help before I permanently injure myself.
>
> Whilst sorting my brake system with new pads I had replaced the front and
removed the rear drivers side. I was the distracted by a visitor for a few
minutes. The next thing I did, don't ask me why, I got in the car an put my
foot on the brake pedal to feel the travel.
> yep the rear pistons closed right up to the disc. And now I can't get them
back in to put in the new pads.



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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 02:05:10 -0500
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: "Chirping" sound

> I've had an annoying "chirping" sound coming from (I think) one of my
wheels for awhile now, one of the rear ones I believe.  It only develops
after driving for awhile but it goes away when I break.  Any idea on what
this could be?  A bearing?  Something wrong with my breaks?

Richard,

I had a similar rattling noise coming from my rear brakes that was a
challenge for me to diagnose.  Since then I rebuilt my brakes and learned a
lot in the process.  Here's what was happening:  The rear brake rotors were
slightly warped (which I understand now is kind of normal and something to
just put up with) and as a high spot would rotate past the brake pad it
would tend to grab it, pick it up, and then drop it in a repeated cycle as
the wheel would turn.  A slight pressure on the brake pedal would interrupt
this.  The fix (which I learned from Rob Grady) is to add some springs (one
for each pad for a total of four springs for the rear brakes).  The spring
is kind of hard to describe -- they start with a straight piece of spring
wire, bend a hook shape in the middle that holds onto the brake pad with the
two ends of the wire bending outwards and holding onto the two pins that
hold the pads in place.  This provides enough friction/stability to stop
slight warps in the rotor from rattling the pads.  They call these
"anti-rattle" springs.

In your case with hearing squeaks instead of rattles, maybe your problem is
similar but manifesting itself as a squeak.  As a diagnostic, try driving
while applying the hand brake.  If you still hear the noise, then you can
eliminate the parking brake pads as the source of the noise.  How I
diagnosed mine was I put the car on jack stands, took the wheels off, spun
the rotors by hand until I could see what was going on.

Well, I went off on a tangent.  If it's none of the above, then maybe you
have a bad wheel bearing.

Walt    Tampa, FL




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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 01:51:08 -0800
From: "Adam Price" <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: "Chirping" sound

I had a similar thing on my car. I let it go for a few months and it 
gradually worsened. Turned out to be a CV joint... its in the shop now in 
fact getting repaired. My mechanic wants to put a new joint on and replace 
all my old boots with Audi boots. The 16 hex bolts would all be replacd by 
alan head bolts to fit the boots properly. Anyone heard of this? What do you 
think I should do?

Anway, you should have a relable mechanic take a look at your car soon!
I also had a loose TA bolt which was causing some clunking and possible 
other noises as well.

Adam

>From: RJRavalli_at_dml_AOL.com
>Reply-To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
>To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [DML] "Chirping" sound
>Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 13:04:37 EST
>
>I've had an annoying "chirping" sound coming from (I think) one of my 
>wheels for awhile now, one of the rear ones I believe.  It only develops 
>after driving for awhile but it goes away when I break.  Any idea on what 
>this could be?  A bearing?  Something wrong with my breaks?
>
>Thanks for any help,



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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 10:26:47 -0600
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: DeLorean in Barrett-Jackson Auction

This past weekend was the annual Barrett-Jackson Auction in Scottsdale,
Arizona, and there was one DeLorean up for auction this year.

http://barrett-jackson.com/auctionresults/common/cardetail.asp?id=169271

The selling price speaks volumes about the resurgence in interest in the
DeLorean, and why good cars will always command more money.

Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.

James Espey
DeLorean Motor Company
Houston, Texas 

281/568-9573
800/USA-DMC1
http://www.delorean.com 




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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 11:27:09 EST
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: JZD?

In a message dated 1/24/02 11:11:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
silas102000_at_dml_yahoo.com writes:

<< Does any one know John Zachary DeLorean's bith date? >>
January 6, 1925



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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 23:48:55 -0500
From: "David Silek" <dsilek_at_dml_msn.com>
Subject: HELP- Any shops in VA???

My D. is now in need of MAJOR work on the engine and cooling system and to
top it all off, somebody stole my radio, which I can not understand for the
life of me.  The display was dead, the cassette had a tape stuck in it and
you had to guess what station you were on or wait until they said their call
letters... Maybe the jerk who stole it did me a favor of sorts... He
certainly got a REAL useful piece of equipment... But now I have a problem
with the dash as well.  The two plastic "connection pieces" which I assume
get the cool air to the vents are off, the plastic vents are broken and I
have NO clue what radio to replace it with?  CD or cassette?  Does anybody
have a recommendation on a mechanic to use and a radio to replace my
original???  BTW, I am a young guy who likes to listen to a wide variety of
music, thus I do like my music somewhat loud at times, especially when
trying to reach 88 mph....

Thanks in advance for any and all advise on this matter.

David Silek
295 West Main Street
Front Royal, VA 22630
------------
"Always will we remember the character of the onslaught against us.  No
matter how long it may take us to overcome this premeditated invasion, the
American people, in their righteous might, will win through to absolute
victory." - Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Message to Congress, Dec. 8, 1941.





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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 21:55:46 -0600
From: "Mike Griese" <mike.griese_at_dml_worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: Please help

Remove the brake line from the caliper.  This will allow you to
compress the pistons back into the caliper.  You will need to
bleed the brakes after you hook the brake line back up.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Salsbury [mailto:paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:16 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com; doc-uk_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Please help


I have just done a really dumb thing, and need some serious suggestion of
help before I permanently injure myself.



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Message: 18
Date: 26 Jan 2002 02:23:07 -0000
From: dmcnews
Subject: Poll results for dmcnews


The following dmcnews poll is now closed.  Here are the 
final results: 


POLL QUESTION: Should the DMC Test Track in Dunmurry 
be preserved for the future as part of 
our Deloreans' history and heritage? 

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- Yes!, 16 votes, 55.17%  
- No!, 7 votes, 24.14%  
- I don't know!, 6 votes, 20.69%  

INDIVIDUAL VOTES
- Yes! 
     - ionicdesign_at_dml_execpc.com 
     - louie_at_dml_delorean.com 
     - malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com 
     - edherrmann_at_dml_yahoo.com 
     - mkeaton_at_dml_winesburg.com 
     - dmcjohn_at_dml_hotmail.com 
     - acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com 
     - NJP548_at_dml_aol.com 
     - ricecooker_ws6_at_dml_hotmail.com 
     - john_rahn_at_dml_msn.com 
     - maryroseberg_at_dml_yahoo.com 
     - Verbrugghe_at_dml_delorean.com 
     - paul_salsbury_at_dml_yahoo.co.uk 
     - delorean_at_dml_online.no 
     - jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl 
     - tmasin_at_dml_madisontelco.com 
- No! 
     - mquinto_at_dml_mediaone.net 
     - DMC5524_at_dml_hotmail.com 
     - Senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com 
     - fastdresser_at_dml_aol.com 
     - TRWILKE_at_dml_aol.com 
     - broy_at_dml_forestlake.k12.mn.us 
     - jack_at_dml_sacketmansion.com 
- I don't know! 
     - jpg6661_at_dml_yahoo.com 
     - khyron_21502_at_dml_yahoo.com 
     - tobyp_at_dml_katewwdb.com 
     - gmfm1_at_dml_att.net 
     - ultra_at_dml_isd.net 
     - protodelorean_at_dml_yahoo.com 


For more information about this group, please visit 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews 

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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:30:56 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: re:headlinings

You stated:
"I was told by the people who supplied the material that spray glue isn't
usually strong enough for headliners."

You were given inaccurate information. Spray adhesive's such as 3M General
Trim Adhesive are specifically formulated for attaching foam backed
materials to headliner backing cores. Foam backed materials are very
susceptible to glue "soak through". Properly applied spray allows
professional results with no soak through problems. This is the process that
was used by the factory.

DMC Joe
DeLorean Help dmchelp_at_dml_att.net
www.dmc.tv
http://shopping.oraclesmallbusiness.com/dsvstore
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nigel C Beatson" <nbeatson1_at_dml_orange.net>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 12:10 PM
Subject: [DML] re:headlinings


> When I got my D the headlinings were in a pretty bad state, torn and
> discoloured, so I decided to completely recover them myself.
>
> I found a classic car material supplier in the UK and they supplied me
> with material with a foam backing that is almost an exact match for the
> original material.
>
> I then removed the original material and used these as templates for
> cutting new pieces. Removing the original foam was a bit of a job as
> its difficult not to damage the 'card' backing. But with a lot of time
> and the use of a little white spirit and an old toothbrush I managed to
> remove it all.
>
> It was then simply a case of glueing the new material in place. I was
> told by the people who supplied the material that spray glue isn't
> usually strong enough for headliners but they supplied me with a tin of
> liquid glue that was suitable.
>
> The most difficult panels to cover, without wrinkling the material, are
> the two that go in the doors but with a bit of patience this isn't a
> problem.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Nigel
> vin 02677






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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 16:00:35 -0600
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: 1/43 Model

I received my 1/43 model of the DeLorean from DeLorean Motor Company today.
It is very nice and highly detailed.  It makes a nice addition to my
collection.
Get yours while you can.

Scott Mueller
002981
0081






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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 17:38:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Aaron Posey <cadysrme_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: The Upcoming ETDOC Event, March 9-10 in the Smokies


Hey Group-

Just reminding everyone again of the next ETDOC meet in the Smoky Mountains.  March 9-10 will be the next event.  It is a repeat of the first event in a way since we are doing the same driving tour that everyone enjoyed the last time. If you don't know what it is, it is on the 11 mile stretch known as The Dragon. It is supposedly the curviest road in the US per length with over 311 curves.  The road is a true test of you and your car's driving abilities.

Lodging is at the Park Vista Resort Hotel. www.parkvista.com will provide contact numbers. When calling, mention you are with the East Tennessee DeLorean Owners Club and you will receive the rate of $82, normally over $100 for the same room any other time.

Something I am working on, but is not set in stone, is a chance for anyone interested to get their DeLorean Dyno Tested.  This will be in Knoxville on the 9th in early afternoon.  All those that attend the Dyno Tests will then caravan up to the mountains to join up with the rest of the group.  I will be talking with the owner of the company that will be performing the tests to see about getting a group rate for a bunch of DeLoreans.

If anyone has any questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to call or write. I have already received a good response from people that plan on attending.  Some return members and some new ones that have just purchased their cars (you know who you are, Louie!) Anyone that has attended an ETDOC event knows that we will have a blast!

Best Regards-

Aaron Posey

ETDOC  ---  www.etdoc.com  ---   865-310-2228  ---  cadysrme_at_dml_yahoo.com

btw- the website has pictures of the previous events..but nothing yet on the upcoming- I am working on it :)



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