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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 887
Date: Saturday, February 02, 2002 6:35 AM

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There are 8 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Simple questions
From: "khyron_21502" <khyron_21502_at_dml_yahoo.com>

2. Re: Vacuum issue? (Resolved)
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>

3. Re: Coolent loss
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>

4. Re: Simple questions
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>

5. Propriétaires des DeLoreans en France
From: deloreanss_at_dml_aol.com

6. Sunstar BTTF extra part
From: ElectroTX_at_dml_webtv.net

7. mileage poll
From: Louie G <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>

8. Re: Re: High Idle Questions
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>





Message: 1
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 06:06:01 -0000
From: "khyron_21502" <khyron_21502_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Simple questions

Thing to check when looking for a Delorean would include the fuel 
pump and the condition of the tank,the fuse box and the relays,and th 
e frame for rust.

The Technical Information Pages 
http://www.dmcnews.com/techmain.htm#Index
Have several links to files including a checklist and new owner hints.


Scott Evans
  #3180




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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 06:14:13 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: Re: Vacuum issue? (Resolved)

If you use sparkplug wires specificly made for the PRV-6 motor, they 
will have boots on top that will prevent water from entering the 
sparkplug wells if seated properly.

But just incase, you may want to add a straw to your list of tools to 
carry with you. One of the really big slurpee straws is perfect (just 
clip the 'scoop' portion off). If you get water in the wells, you can 
use the straw to remove the majority of the water in a hurry. Shove 
the straw into the well, close you eyes, and exhale as hard as you 
can. It's a handy item to have if you're stuck on the road, or you 
can use it in the garage along with the air compressor too.

Don't feel bad though. This isn't a PRV/DeLorean only problem. I 
subscribe to another list for general car repair, and have seen 
reports of this happening on Toyota MR2's as well.

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Ed Garbade" wrote:
> Went home last night and checked for water in the spark plug 
wells.  Sure enough cylinder number 6 was about 1/3 full of water.  Cleaned it 
out and it runs great!




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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 06:28:58 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: Re: Coolent loss

I too had a leak on the hose that connects to the "Y" pipe behind the 
water pump. I was filling up the surge tank about every 3 weeks, and 
had no leaks on the floor. However, when I shined a flashlight on _at_dml_ 
the right angle, I was able to see a puddle of orange coolant on top 
of the block.

Prestone makes a cooling system sealant that worked quite well on my 
car. It is NOT a stop leak fix for radiators, but specificly for the 
entire cooling system. The bottle istelf even states that it is for 
cooling hoses, pipes, and headgaskets. I ran it in my car, and I no 
longer see any coolant on the block, and the coolant level is stable.

Now I do plan on replacing these hoses, I'm just treating this as 
more less as a bandage to take care of the problem for now. But since 
there was a leak previously, that indicates that there is a problem 
that needs to be corrected. But if you're car is a daily driver that 
you DEPEND on, it may be something that you may want to look into.

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"



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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 07:30:41 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: Re: Simple questions

Where to begin, where to begin...

As you will find out from others, and as you research, the drivetrain 
in the DeLorean is quite a reliable one. It's just not a popular one 
in the US. Matter of fact, I only know of 4 cars in the US that use 
the PRV based engine. DeLorean, Volvo 260 & 760, and the Chryler "K" 
cars Premier & Monaco. So knowlege and parts for the engine are not 
as widespread as more common cars. However, it is used widely in 
Europe. Good, strong engine, but is killed by excessive heat damage 
from improperly maintained cooling systems.

For engineering items, the DeLorean isn't all that bad. In the 
automotive since, it is just another car. There are quirks, but they 
are easy enough to correct. And most repairs are not that 
complicated/difficult. You just need the knowlege to do them. For a 
very competent DIY'er, the DeLorean can be quite a pleasureable car 
to own. You can do most work yourself, and the results are mostly 
immediate after repairs!

As far as problems are conceren, there is one big problem that the 
DeLorean is subject to: A bad owner. This isn't nessisarily someone 
who physicly abuses the car, or let's it rot in the driveway. They 
can have the best of intentions at heart. But if they don't have to 
proper knowlege to know what repairs are nessisary, AND how to do 
them, that can be just as damaging!

So the best insurance is the opposite: Knowlege! The DeLorean is just 
like any other car. Wheather you're buying last years model, or a 
postwar classic, the same rules apply. You need to know what you're 
getting into before you make a purchse. A good amount of knowlege 
will tell you what to look for, and what to avoid. Ask questions, 
read books and archives, and study all you can. Then decide what kind 
of car you want.

The DML is a good place to start. But it does seem a bit backwards 
for someone who is new to the realm of DeLoreans. In other words it's 
like shopping for a particular new car. But instead of starting in 
the showroom for the car you want, you begin in the garages where the 
cars are being repaired. Mainly technical questions and answers are 
posted here for particular issues, diagnotic procedures, and repair 
procedures. But for the hands on person, it is perfect to give them 
ideas about what's involved. While I know I don't speak for everyone 
here, I feel pretty confident that the majority of DeLorean owners 
positive expieriences far outwiegh any negative ones. It's just that 
this being mainly a repair forum, you don't always get to hear about 
them!

Good luck to you in your search, and welcome!

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Martin Pajak" wrote:
> Hi,
>  I've always loved the DeLorean and I interested in picking one up.
> I went through a lot of sites but none talked about major problems 
with the cars.




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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 02:32:26 EST
From: deloreanss_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Propriétaires des DeLoreans en France

I was wondering if anyone knew of any French DeLorean owners or if any 
followed the DML. As I am going to be living in Caen for a little while later 
this year, away from my D, I was hoping I could locate an owner or two. Also, 
I'd like to check out a Renault Alpine and the PRV in their native climates.

S'il y a des propriétaires en France, je voudrai vous parler en privé. 
M'adresse de E-mail est DeloreanSS_at_dml_aol.com. Je désire discuter quleques 
différences entre posséder une DeLorean aux Etats-Unis et en France.

Salut, 

John Weaver
ETDOC
RED DMC #10527




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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 02:40:39 -0600 (CST)
From: ElectroTX_at_dml_webtv.net
Subject: Sunstar BTTF extra part

(Moderators Note: Please responed to David directly on this if you can help. We're not going to start another "Sunstar" model "BTTF" thread on this)

Hi guys, first post here,

I recently bought the Sunstar BTTF model from a local hobby store, and
opened it yesterday to find an extra piece rattling around the passenger
side inside. It's a five sided rectangular piece about 1/2" * 1/4" *
1/4", gold on four sides, and black with circuitry-looking formed stuff
on the fifth. The depressed 'top' side 1/4 * 1/2 (if the opening is a
the bottom) has interlaced dashes like: -_-_-_-_- and so forth, making
it look like a grill type thing. It also has two flanges on the long
open sides. I cannot figure out where this was supposed to go. Any
ideas? Also, when screwed to the display stand, the hovercraft
conversion switch is inaccessible. My model's driver's side door won't
stay open, and the screws to take it apart are inaccessible due to the
time machine moldings in the rear. Any ideas?

Thanks for your time,
David M.
aka Electro
no VIN yet    




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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 00:51:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Louie G <louie_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: mileage poll

Hello everyone,
  Just wanted to alert the list that i started a mileage poll at the egroups site- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/surveys?id=861849 . Feel free to drop me a line if you think I can organize it better.

Louie Golden
#10115



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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 11:20:45 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Re: High Idle Questions

David is absolutely correct.

If this list is of any benefit to DeLorean owners, we hope it helps to
alleviate the number one reason for DeLorean service problems; unqualified
mechanics.

DMC Joe
DeLorean Help dmchelp_at_dml_att.net
www.dmc.tv



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