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Date: Saturday, February 09, 2002 5:17 AM

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There are 15 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. DeLorean Movie.
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>

2. Rear Pivot Bolt & Brake Disc.
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>

3. Tight Steering.
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>

4. Re: Customizing a DeLorean
From: "tp8534" <mpolans_at_dml_creeper.com>

5. New PRV (PSA) 210HP!
From: "Stian Birkeland" <delorean_at_dml_online.no>

6. Re: Windshield mounting
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

7. Giving something back to the radio guys...
From: "cdrugly" <tgoodwin_at_dml_vantagep.com>

8. Car Restoration Magazin
From: "erikgeerdink" <erikgeerdink_at_dml_yahoo.com>

9. Re: Unknown Object
From: "William F. Lane" <blane_at_dml_triad.rr.com>

10. (unknown)
From: "erikgeerdink" <erikgeerdink_at_dml_yahoo.com>

11. Re: Customizing a DeLorean
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

12. RE: live the dream add -- have a sense of humor..
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_att.net>

13. re: live the dream add -- have a sense of humor..
From: "Aaron C." <slider_ten_at_dml_hotmail.com>

14. RE: (unknown)
From: "Jack Stiefel" <jackstiefel_at_dml_sacketmansion.com>

15. RE: Customizing a DeLorean
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_att.net>





Message: 1
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 12:21:10 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: DeLorean Movie.

I've gotten bak from my business trip, and have finally gotten the 
chance to see the DeLorean documentary that I purchased last 
month!

The move is a documentary by DA Pennebaker and Chris 
Hegedus. To say the least, it is quite amazing. However, it is not 
something for beginers. You fully get the grasp of it, you need to 
at least have read "DeLorean", and "Dream Maker". The movie is 
basicly a string that ties both books together, and answers a 
good deal of questions. After watching the film, the purchasing of 
Logan Mfg, and the DMC-80 make perfect sense. JZD wasn't 
trying to build a world empire to benefit his ego. They were both 
turn-key businesses that could churn out quick profits to sustain 
DMCL, and keep the DMC-12 alive incase of profit loss.

Alot was also revealed in the office scenes as well. I realize that 
JZD alone didn't build DMC by himself. There were a good 
number of people that contributed. But the image of him 
portrayed in many books about him being someone who didn't 
care about DMC is shattered. In the later scenes, JZD seems to 
be the only person who cares about whats going on with the 
company. There is an instance where Volvo wanted to charge 
DMC for the cost of having to retool their equipment for the DMC-
12 application of the PRV motor. JZD argues many valid points, 
including the most important one: They paid the engineering 
fees to Renault, so the charges should already have been 
included. Especially since Volvo was not the direct supplier to 
DMC. JZD argues this point with his people, and they appear to 
have a reluctant attitude to have to go back, and state the refusal 
to Volvo. It appears as if they just accepted having to pay. I know 
that many of these people helped to contribute to the company in 
some way, but with all due respect, I can understand why JZD 
made the decisions later on to terminate them.

Another interesting fact is this: In the book, "Hard Driving", 
William Haddad gives insight into the inner workings of DMC. 
But not once did I see him anywhere in this movie. For someone 
who was supposed to be involved in marketing/politics for the 
company, I was suprised not to see him at any of the meetings, 
or at least an auto show. Not to mention Northern Ireland where 
he supposedly had such strong political ties...

On a lighter note, it is quite amazing to see the workers who 
actually built the cars. It finally puts a face with the people I've 
only read about. And it is very impressive to see how far they 
came. From people who put in job applications to simply get a 
job, to talented workers who practicly built our cars from scratch. 
Without them, the DMC-12 would not have been built. And I don't 
mean that in the sense that somebody had to do it. No one else 
could have done what they did. It is amazing how fast the 
workers learned, and what they accomplished. Part of the magic 
that built the DMC-12 came from Dunmurry. And I have no doubt 
that if DMC were still in business today, the finest cars and 
trucks would not be from Japan, Detroit, or Germany. They would 
all be products of Belfast, and all would bear the emblem, DMC!

If you are someone who is very into learning more about the 
man and the company, this movie is for you. I would not just 
reccomend this movie for viewing, for hard-core DeLorean 
people, it is a must have to help complete your collection.

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"




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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 13:37:20 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: Rear Pivot Bolt & Brake Disc.

While going over my car last night, I discovered that the Pivot Bolt 
on the rear of my car appears to be bent. I also noticed that there 
is a bit of a gap between the nut on the end and the shock 
absorber itself. Is this normal? It is also on the opposite side 
pivot bolt as well. Needless to say, I am a bit concerned.

Another thing is some kind of gold colored gunk that's covering 
the hub an part of the brake disc. The stuff is everywhere, and it's 
even been slung up into the wheel well. Any idea as to what this 
stuff could be?

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"




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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 13:52:17 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: Tight Steering.

Last night I broke out the grease gun, and lubed up the front 
steering knuckels. Wow, what an improvement! The steering 
wheel has so much less resistance to it! Quick manuvers at low 
speeds are much easier, and when accelerating, the car now 
has a quicker tendancy to correct itself back into a straight line. 
High speeds are nice too. _at_dml_ 100+mph, the car now feels like it 
has more stable control. It just glides now down the highway!

Occasionally I've seen postings about some people who have 
thought about power steering for their cars. Try lubing the front, 
and you may just see quite a diffferance!

I just thought that I might share this with the group to help out 
others. One note though is to buy a good grease. The "bargan" 
lubricants _at_dml_ Wal Mart all say that they are Parafin based, while 
the quality stuff _at_dml_ the auto store is Lithium based. I would 
imagine that Parafin (wax) would melt pretty quickly on those 
front wheels...

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"




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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 16:57:51 -0000
From: "tp8534" <mpolans_at_dml_creeper.com>
Subject: Re: Customizing a DeLorean

Joe,
     I honestly thought I would never be dumb enough to do this, but I
actually disagree with you on this point.  I have done custom wheels
and tires on my DeLorean and not only do they look great but I have a
slightly bigger footprint with only positive results.  I worked with
DanRC30 on this as well as Luke at tirerack.  I chose 205/45 16's in
the front and 245/45 17's in the rear.  Only 10mm wider for each tire
so no "real" gain on the contact patch, but if you crunch numbers it
is slightly larger.  Both wheels are 7" wide.  Luke made certain to
calculate out the diameter of the tire and matched the front and rear
almost perfect to stock, maybe waivering a few tenths of a millimeter
on the rears.  Certainly not enough to affect handling or even the
speedo, although if memory serves me, the fronts were a perfect match.
   I did have spacers machined out of bullet aluminum for these
particular wheels.  That's also how I fit the 7" wheel up front with
no rubbing unless I am at full lock, so I always back off just a hair
in a tight turn.
     Ok, so it's obvious I am not a purist.  Custom wheels are not for
everyone, but I am very happy with the results.  I've posted pictures
of my car in the photos section, VIN #16816.  Again, Joe, I don't mean
any disrespect.  You have helped me out numerous times with posts and
a phone call.  I just view things differently in this area and I am
interested to know why.  That usually gets me into trouble anyway....:)

Matthew
VIN #10365-looking for a good home
VIN #16816

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> You said:
>          "> 7. Wheels - I want larger wheels and tires (especially
in the
> front) 17inch > wheels??? and wider tires. Has anyone tackled this
one??? I
> want greater
> > roadability and looks!!!"
> 
> The Lotus design engineers did an excellent job on the wheel size
spec.'s
> for the DeLorean. Any alteration to the original size will result in
> negative results.
> 
> DMC Joe
> DeLorean Help dmchelp_at_dml_a...
> www.dmc.tv
> http://shopping.oraclesmallbusiness.com/dsvstore
> 





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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 18:43:09 +0100
From: "Stian Birkeland" <delorean_at_dml_online.no>
Subject: New PRV (PSA) 210HP!

Hello, while surfing the net I came across this press release on the new "PRV" engine.
Quite a few years have passed since the DeLorean's birth, and one of the change with the PRV (Peugeot-Renault-Volvo) consortium in Douvrin, France, was that Volvo pulled out. Volvo is now owned by Ford.

The PRV changed name to PSA, and consists now of only the French automakers Peugeot-Citroen-Renault.

Some of you may remember I mentioned the new PRV-V6 on the list a few months back...one of the European cars that have it installed is the Renault Clio (rally version). I wonder if the new engine would fit in the DeLorean - I believe it would. If you would like to see a photo of it, go to the DMC News vault and find it in the folder New PRV. The engine now produces 210 horsepowers! More info on http://www.psa.fr/  The only thing difficult now is to think of it as  a PSA instead of a PRV ;-)

Best wishes
Stian Birkeland
Norway

VIN # 06759



July 2, 1999



      PSA PEUGEOT CITROËN and Renault to Introduce New V6 Engine
     





      Beginning in early 2000, a new 3-liter (2,946 cc) V6 engine, developed by a cooperative venture between PSA PEUGEOT CITROËN and Renault, will be gradually introduced on both carmakers' mid-range, upper-range, and MPV model lines. The first vehicles to be equipped will be the future Peugeot upper-range model scheduled for presentation at the Frankfurt Auto Show in September, and the Renault coupe developed from the Avantime concept car. The new engine, which is an improved version of the ES9 model introduced in 1996, was developed at a relatively low cost of FRF 464 million, of which FRF 80 million in capital expenditure. It will improve performance and lower fuel consumption, while complying with new Euro3/2000 emissions standards. A Euro 4/2005 version will be available in the near future. The engine will be produced at a rate of 300 units a day at the La Française de Mécanique plant in Douvrin, France.

      Specifications for the new PSA PEUGEOT CITROËN/Renault 3-liter V6 engine call for:
      - Lower fuel consumption.
      - Better performance (power and torque).
      - Compliance with new European emissions standards to become effective in 2000 and 2005.
      - Possibility of two-way dialogue with an automatic transmission to adjust torque to gear changes.
      - Easier maintenance, with oil changes every 30,000 kms, low viscosity oil and sparkplug changes after 120,000 kms.
      Performance, consumption and handling
      The new engine's power has been increased by 8% to 152 kw (210 hp), versus 140 kw (194 hp) for the engine it is replacing. Maximum torque is 285 N.m at 3,750 rpm, versus 267 N.m for the earlier version. Low speed torque has been thoroughly reworked and increased by 10% to 260 N.m at 2,000 rpm, providing a more pleasurable driving experience. 

      Fuel consumption has also been substantially improved. While mileage will vary, depending on the marque or vehicle type, overall consumption has been lowered by one liter per 100 kms, in combined European city and highway tests (ECE and EUDC standards).

      Superior environmental performance
      Improving the engine's technical features has also significantly enhanced its environmental performance. The new PSA PEUGEOT CITROËN/Renault V6 engine complies fully with Euro3 standards (to be applied as of January 2000 for new models) and will rapidly be upgraded to meet Euro4 standards (for which tax incentives will be offered in advance of the January 2005 application date).

      Adjustments to the new standard will involve the engine management system, the precious metal content of the catalytic converter, and development of the European On-board Diagnosis (EOBD) system. These improvements will be integrated gradually, depending on the two partners' new vehicle introduction schedules.

      Major technical changes
      The engine has been entirely redesigned, with a thoroughly reworked upper section. Changes include:
      - A newly designed combustion chamber and intake manifold built in partnership with Porsche, for the combustion management system, and with Bosch, for the engine management control and injection systems.
      - Engine acoustics (NVH) were handled in association with Ricardo.
      - A new six-pipe intake manifold, increased to 12 pipes where it feeds into the combustion chamber, with each nozzle positioned on two pipes.
      - Multi-hole and sequential injection nozzles.
      - Motorized throttle housing.
      - Single coil ignition system (one per cylinder).
      - Variable timing camshaft.

      In the lower engine section, the crankshaft, made of meshed forged steel and machined with variable burnishing, is produced in France at the Courcelles foundry.

      Investment and production
      Development of the new V6 engine involved one-time expenses (for design, engineering and process development) of FRF 464 million, of which FRF 80 million was invested in manufacturing facilities. The original engine, introduced in 1996, had cost FRF 2.5 billion, including FRF 1.3 billion in capital expenditure.

      The engine will be produced at the Douvrin, France plant operated by La Française de Mécanique, a joint PSA PEUGEOT CITROËN/Renault venture. Full-year output is forecast at 300 units a day, versus the 120 units a day currently produced. This 250% increase in volume is in line with expansion in both Groups' model line-ups and the large number of vehicles to be equipped with the new V6 engine.
     



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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 13:50:29 -0500
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Windshield mounting

I agree with what Martin & DMC Joe said.  Also the double sided tape holding
my rear view mirror on appears to be loose, but it still holds the mirror
on.  I suppose I could remove it with little effort.  In fact, I intend to
when I replace it with a Mito/Gentex auto-dimming electrochromatic mirror.
Beware that in the DML archives people warn that improperly gluing on a
mirror can crack the windshield right down the center.  So be careful how
you reattach the mirror.  Apparently these windshields don't like metal
mounting studs glued on using the traditional General Motors method.  If
anyone has more insight on this let it be known here.  Thanx,

Walt    Tampa, FL




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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 18:52:16 -0000
From: "cdrugly" <tgoodwin_at_dml_vantagep.com>
Subject: Giving something back to the radio guys...

Well, the old radio is out and the new one is in. When I took the old 
one out, the original pig tail from the factory Craig had been cut 
and married to the new radio. I don't need it anymore and I thought 
one of you guys could use it (the pig tail wiring harness, not the 
crappy radio). This would keep you from having to cut up any of your 
original Delorean wiring. Ideally, what I'd like to do is throw in a 
few bucks and trade for a set of front speakers (or just the front 
right) since mine is completely dead.

Shoot me an email if you are interested.

Travis
#3512




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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 18:57:04 -0000
From: "erikgeerdink" <erikgeerdink_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Car Restoration Magazin

I know this is a bit off topic, but what better place to post a 
question about this?
I am interested in learning more about car restorations and the 
process that goes into something like this.  Does anyone know of a 
magazine that deals with restoring cars?  I have been looking on the 
web for "Barn Find" stories and the restoration that goes along with 
it, and I'm not finding anything.  The ideal magazine would document 
a restoration from beginning (when he/she found the car in a barn) to 
the end.  Anything along these lines would be great.  If someone 
knows of such a magazine, please email me privately.  Thanks!!

Erik Geerdink
4512




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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 13:12:44 -0800
From: "William F. Lane" <blane_at_dml_triad.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Unknown Object

I have to agree with Walt and the others as to their description of the 
unknown object as opposed to my original description of the plate on the 
rear facia.

Bill Lane
#3635




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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 19:03:42 -0000
From: "erikgeerdink" <erikgeerdink_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: (unknown)

I was searching for delorean stuff, and came across this.  go to the 
link below and search for 'delorean'.  I have added the text below 
the link.

http://website.lineone.net/~triumphdolomiteclub/DOCUMENT1.HTML

The Robin Hood is another special, based 
loosely on the Lotus 7, which was available
originally with Dolomite, Sprint or TR7
mechanics.
Early examples were constructed of a 
stainless steel monocoque body but problems
with stiffness forced later cars to have a
partial spaceframe added. 
The history of the S7 is interesting - the
manufacturers bought up stocks of steel and
leather for trim from the defunct DeLorean
factory in Northern Ireland!
We welcome owners of all such models.
Robin Hood production: Lots, but later cars
were Ford-based.....


anyone know what they are talking about???

Erik




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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 15:01:15 -0500
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Customizing a DeLorean

> 1. Updating engine - DMC Houston can take care of that...but any other
> ideas?

There is the Cadillac Northstar conversion for a mere $20K.  Bob Brandys
used a Rover engine.  I've seen people use Buick engines and another guy is
in the process of doing a 3 rotor Mazda engine with a Porsche 6 speed
tranny.  I have mixed feelings about the Houston upgrade because it seems
like making a silk purse from a sows ear.  But then that is a conversion
that will probably not lower the car's value like putting something
completely different in there.

> 2. Suspension - lowering the car is nice...any recommendations on shock
and
> struts (or any other improved suspension components???

Lowering the front is a must if you want it to look right and handle better.
It is sufficient to only replace the front springs, but if you are extreme
you can buy a complete 4 spring set from Houston.  I'm happy with just
replacing the fronts with PJ Grady springs.  There are several issues with
shock absorbers that have been beaten to death on the DML.  Check the
archives.  In summary: PJ Grady nitrogen charged/adjustable shocks rule if
you want to spend the money.  Marty Maier has a great inexpensive
alternative as does Byrne Henninger (who sells it through John Hervey's web
site.)  I'm not sure what Houston offers.  Can anyone say?  If you replace
the front springs, I suggest replacing the lower control arms with something
new or substantially reinforcing the OEM ones while you have them off.
There are issues with the trailing arm bolts in the rear suspension, but if
you are serious about customizing, a new stainless steel frame will make
trailing arm bolts a moot point.

> 3. Brakes - any ideas here??? Larger cross-drilled rotors? Any sizes or
> brands?

Larger is probably not an option unless you are a good machinist.
Cross-drilled was an option, but probably no longer is.  Again, this is
covered in the archives.  In summary, there might be front rotors still
available but the rears are gone.  These were made by Powerstop/Auto
Specialities.  They are noisy too.  I don't recommend trying to cross-drill
rotors on your own unless you are a metallurgist.  Marty Maier offers
stainless braded brake lines which is worth getting in my opinion.

> 4. Electrical updates - aside from the Zillas, any ideas for improving the
> Lucas design?

In the spirit of your customization theme, I suggest an LED 3rd brake light,
(or all LED lights if you can figure it out.  Someone will do that
eventually.) Sylvania Xenarc HID headlights (I'm getting ready to install
that myself) and an electrochromatic rear view mirror (which I am getting
ready to do at the same time I do the headlights since the temperature
sensor for the 'on screen' thermometer mounts under the front grille.)
There are other fun things like remote door launchers.

> 5. Exhaust - IMPORTANT!!! Any idea of a borla or performace set up???

If you do the Houston upgrade, this comes with an improved exhaust system.

> 6. Air Intake - any K&N filters or cool-flo intakes???

Marty Maier sells an adapter kit to hold a K&N filter.  Cameron Putch sells
a custom stainless steel air box.  I have one but haven't had time to put it
on yet (or even eat anything today yet.)  Maybe someday.

> 7. Wheels - I want larger wheels and tires (especially in the front)
17inch
> wheels??? and wider tires. Has anyone tackled this one??? I want greater
> roadability and looks!!!

Be real careful with this one.  Again read the archives.  In summary,
putting wider rims on the front may interfere with your steering.  It does
on mine.  What happens is that the wheels hit the sway bar.  Even the OEM
wheels can do this.  I'm in the process of having new sway bars made that
will allow for wider front tires & better handling in general.  That should
be finished in a few months -- hopefully in time for the Memphis show.  The
problem is that it is very hard to find aftermarket rims that have the
correct bolt pattern and match both the front & rear.  The OEM front rims
are 6" but most (if not all) aftermarket choices only go as narrow as 7".

> 8. The question you will all hate - is there a method for painting a
> DeLorean??? Doesn't it involve acid etching or prep??? if anyone has done
> this let me know.

I've seen photos of creative things done with large decals.  I think they
are still posted in the Yahoo Groups DML photo area.  I'm going to try to
upload photos of my low profile rims there if I can figure it out.

> 9. Cooling system - any low temp switches or thermostats available??? HD
> radiators???  KEEP THAT ENGINE COOL!!!

Running an engine too cool is not a good thing.  It increases emissions &
decreases fuel economy.  If you do this anyway you may have moisture
problems in your crank case if it never gets hot enough to boil the
condensation out.

PJ Grady offers a heavy duty all brass radiator which is a smart thing to
use if you install a better engine.  More horsepower means more heat which
means bigger radiator.

> I am very interested in sharing info on any ideas for making the DeLorean
> "better". Obviously, it is already a great car...I just want to update it
> more and make it more like the sports car it wants to be!!! Let me know if
> any of you have ideas and / or are interested in discussing ideas!!!
Thanks
> a lot and it is good to be back!!!

Cool, I'm obsessed with that idea myself.  If I had more time & were buying
a DeLorean over again, I would buy one with a rust bucket frame & replace it
with a stainless steel one.  With the money you save on buying a car with a
rusted frame you could put toward a stainless one.  Besides, if you are into
horsepower you should consider such a frame built to handle it.  (As you may
have already guessed, I'm having one made for my car.)  Also, if you are
serious about horsepower, don't start with a DeLorean with an automatic
transmission.  They are durable & reliable as long as you don't drive
aggressively with them.  My first stage is to get my car running on the
stainless steel frame.  Then I'm planning on swapping out my automatic
transmission for a Porsche 4 speed tiptronic automatic.  I would rather not
do an engine swap until I have these basics debugged.

Walt    Tampa, FL




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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 07:52:11 -0600
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: RE: live the dream add -- have a sense of humor..

[ Moderator's note: I don't want to start this thread so I'll post this one response and leave it at that. ]



Even though this is not the image that we should project, the parody ad is
humorous with the examples of a poorly maintained car.

Scott Mueller
002981

-----Original Message-----
From: James LaLonde [mailto:krfds_at_dml_yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 8:01 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] live the dream add -- have a sense of humor..


yes i do own the car... and i love it.
but you know damned well this is funny..... and somewhat true.

my friends and i made this up

go here
www.rock-n-horse.com/original.jpg

read it

then go here
www.rock-n-horse.com/new.jpg

let me know... the site is slow right now otherwise i'd upload it...

have fun
-james lalonde 001697




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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 12:05:58 -0500
From: "Aaron C." <slider_ten_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: re: live the dream add -- have a sense of humor..

Oh my god that was great.  Very creative on your end.  The part about turning the key again and again really made me laugh.  Oh how we've all experienced it.  Good work.

-Aaron Crocco
NY Plate- OUTATYM
Still drivin' the Plymouth


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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 18:46:27 -0500
From: "Jack Stiefel" <jackstiefel_at_dml_sacketmansion.com>
Subject: RE: (unknown)

The Robin Hood seems to be a Kit Car.  I did some research after reading
this post and all I can find is kit car sites.

Jack & Virginia Stiefel
1981 DeLorean Vin 3461 August 1981 Build (Ours)
http://www.sacketmansion.com/delorean
1988 Jaguar XJS-C V-12 (Mine) http://www.sacketmansion.com/jaguar
2001 PT Cruiser (Hers)
Visit us at http://www.sacketmansion.com


-----Original Message-----
From: erikgeerdink [mailto:erikgeerdink_at_dml_yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 2:04 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] (unknown)


I was searching for delorean stuff, and came across this.  go to the 
link below and search for 'delorean'.  I have added the text below 
the link.

http://website.lineone.net/~triumphdolomiteclub/DOCUMENT1.HTML

The Robin Hood is another special, based 
loosely on the Lotus 7, which was available
originally with Dolomite, Sprint or TR7
mechanics.
Early examples were constructed of a 
stainless steel monocoque body but problems
with stiffness forced later cars to have a
partial spaceframe added. 
The history of the S7 is interesting - the
manufacturers bought up stocks of steel and
leather for trim from the defunct DeLorean
factory in Northern Ireland!
We welcome owners of all such models.
Robin Hood production: Lots, but later cars
were Ford-based.....


anyone know what they are talking about???

Erik



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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 17:50:16 -0600
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: RE: Customizing a DeLorean

#9 The thermostat determines the operating temperature of the engine.  If
the radiator is oversized or more efficient, the thermostat will close to
maintane the engine temperature.  The larger radiator will reject the heat
at a faster rate than the OEM, AC will be more efficient.

-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Coe [mailto:Whalt_at_dml_att.net]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 2:01 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DML] Customizing a DeLorean


> 9. Cooling system - any low temp switches or thermostats available??? HD
> radiators???  KEEP THAT ENGINE COOL!!!

Running an engine too cool is not a good thing.  It increases emissions &
decreases fuel economy.  If you do this anyway you may have moisture
problems in your crank case if it never gets hot enough to boil the
condensation out.

PJ Grady offers a heavy duty all brass radiator which is a smart thing to
use if you install a better engine.  More horsepower means more heat which
means bigger radiator.

Walt    Tampa, FL





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