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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 908
Date: Friday, February 15, 2002 11:36 PM

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There are 17 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Sound deadening material
From: "gr8old1" <Gr8old1_at_dml_aol.com>

2. Re: Reckless video game mpg in files
From: "gr8old1" <Gr8old1_at_dml_aol.com>

3. RE: DML Suscribers
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>

4. Re: Bumper Paint Question.
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

5. RE: Picture of DIN Bracket
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>

6. RE: Re: Speakers
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>

7. Re: WD40 (WAS: throttle stick solution?)
From: "Ed Garbade" <edgarbade_at_dml_hotmail.com>

8. Re: Grease / "magic grease" :)
From: Farrar Hudkins <fhudkins_at_dml_uno.edu>

9. Re: Sound deadening material
From: Jan van de Wouw <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>

10. Re: Full Throttle Switch
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

11. tire balancing
From: id <ionicdesign_at_dml_execpc.com>

12. Re: Re: need Rivnuts & tool
From: Heydudetoo_at_dml_aol.com

13. Vin #11009
From: "Kevin Creason" <dmc4687_at_dml_mindspring.com>

14. Re: Re: Fuel Distributor: Learn what I'm learning!
From: "Rustproof" <Rustproof_at_dml_prodigy.net>

15. Re: Re: need Rivnuts & tool
From: "Rustproof" <Rustproof_at_dml_prodigy.net>

16. Re: need Rivnuts & tool
From: "William F. Lane" <blane_at_dml_triad.rr.com>

17. Re: Grease
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>





Message: 1
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 18:54:01 -0000
From: "gr8old1" <Gr8old1_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Re: Sound deadening material

Sound deadening material has been in use in the auto-sound industry 
for at least a decade now. I use to be heavily into this trend (no 
more thankfully) and what the material usually does is convert sound 
pressure into heat, then disperses it in the material. One of the 
most recognized names is Dynamat.

http://www.dynamat.com/

The application usually only required a hot air gun (or hair blower) 
set low. the material would then become plyable to almost any surface 
countour, and is self adhesive. By deadening the road noise and 
outside noise source, Sound deadeners are used to enhance the effect 
of your stereo system without requiring more power amplification. 
There is absolutely no reason this would not work in your D. The 
hardest part is removing the interior panels for application.

Caveat: The material does have some weight to it. So be forwarned 
when applying it to your doors.

-Jeff Chabotte
webmaster: http://www.88-mph.com





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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:45:20 -0000
From: "gr8old1" <Gr8old1_at_dml_aol.com>
Subject: Re: Reckless video game mpg in files

[Moderator Note: Thanks for the answer.  End of thread.  - Mike S.]

Hello all. I have this game for the Xbox and it is referred to 
as "the Supercar". and yes, the whole noseclip is changed. Actually 
there are quite a few vehicles in this game that represent other 
cars. The reason this is done is because they don't want to have to 
pay license fees from the respective automibile companies (look at 
Gran Tourismo for PS2, dead-on replications). the easiest way to 
avoid this is to make cartoonish versions of the cars, by changing 
bits here and there.

That being said. i have uploaded the file on to my personal website.. 
http://www.88-mph.com
the file located at
http://www.88-mph.com/video/reckless.mpeg

The DML may feel free to free up it's space on yahoo.

-Jeff Chabotte





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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 16:09:26 -0500
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>
Subject: RE: DML Suscribers

I joined last year around this time, becuase I wanted to buy a car in the
spring, and I started my research now.

Kevin Abato

-----Original Message-----
From: dmc6960 [mailto:ultra_at_dml_isd.net]
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 2:00 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] DML Suscribers


> Anyone else here notice how the number of DML suscribers has
> jumped considerably this past week?  Over 30 new people!!!

[moderator snip]



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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 16:10:00 -0500
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Bumper Paint Question.

> I'd like to paint the word
> "De Lorean" on my rear bumper.

That reminds me of a Lotus I saw with large white lettering on the rear
bumper.  It looked nice and made the car stand out.  (Like you really need
that for such a wedge to stand out. :-)

I tend to be the sort who goes out of my way to remove logos & such for the
anonymous look.  Anyway, I had a custom sign made up professionally, and the
process used to make it would work ideally for doing what you want.  The
process is run by computer.  He uses a True-Type font that is coupled to
some kind of plotter/laser cutter.  He designs it first on the computer
screen and then cuts it out using bumper sticker type material.  It was
really slick watching him put vinyl lettering on a plastic board for my
sign.  Since he did it for a living, he made it look really easy.  I was
thinking about having him make up a large sheet of plain black that would
cover most of the black part of the rear bumper.  This would make it easy to
hide my filling in of the OEM DeLorean logo.  But a similar process could
work well for what you want.  Just put green letters directly on the bumper
or put green letters on a larger black piece that would cover any given area
of the bumper.  Another possibility is to put some green stock on the bumper
first and then have the black cover it in a negative image to let the green
show through.

Awhile back I saw someone selling a True-Type font of the DeLorean font.  I
would like to get a copy of this if anyone remembers who sells it.  Bring
this on a disk to a sign maker, and he could probably use that to cut out
the vinyl with no fuss.

Walt    Tampa, FL




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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 16:34:57 -0500
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>
Subject: RE: Picture of DIN Bracket

My wife just got me a new mounting DIN from DMC Houston for Christmas (She
is sooo good to me!)

Anyway...now that i have my new speakers in, I will be mounting a radio in a
few weeks.  From what i can tell, there is nothing to really hold an
aftermarket radio in place except that same screw in the back that you
mention.



-----Original Message-----
From: Christian Williams [mailto:delorean_at_dml_framezero.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 4:40 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Picture of DIN Bracket


> I was wondering if anyone has a picture of what the DeLorean should
> look like with the stock radio removed, and what it should look like
> with the DIN bracket installed - but still with no radio in it.

[moderator snip]



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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 16:36:29 -0500
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>
Subject: RE: Re: Speakers

Actually, in teh seach for my speakers, i debated going with 6x8" ovals, but
a "sound expert" from Crutchfield (hey..take if for what it's worth) told me
that a round speaker of 6 1/2" would give me much better sound.

-----Original Message-----
From: Farrar Hudkins [mailto:fhudkins_at_dml_uno.edu]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 5:52 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DML] Re: Speakers
[snip]
> Since people are now cutting their own speaker walls, I thought
> I'd mention that, in my experience, round speakers get more
> realistic bass sound and do less work for the low and low-mid
> frequencies than the oval-shaped ones.

[moderator snip]

Farrar Hudkins 



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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:38:25 -0500
From: "Ed Garbade" <edgarbade_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: WD40 (WAS: throttle stick solution?)

And it accelerates rusting.  I know for a fact.  If you want to know how I 
know this to be fact, write me off list.

Ed
edgarbade(AT)hotmail.com


>From: "Marc A. Levy"
>
>WD40 is not a lubricant!  It is a "Water Displacer" (WD).  I cant figure 
>out why everyone uses this stuff as a lubricant...
>
>



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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 16:46:27 -0600
From: Farrar Hudkins <fhudkins_at_dml_uno.edu>
Subject: Re: Grease / "magic grease" :)

Regarding the grease discussion (and I swear this is the only thing I'll
say about it):

IIRC, the clear stuff Les mentioned that comes with CPU heat sinks is
that modern marvel, silicone. It is therefore common and affordable!
Great lubricant and hard to get off of whatever you put it on. (But
since you never want to ... *grin*) 

The usual precautions apply: make sure surfaces are clean before you
apply it, of course, using denatured alcohol or the like.

Three posts in as many days? I need a break! :P

All the best,
Farrar Hudkins
--
www.wwno.org
504-280-7000



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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 00:01:30 +0100
From: Jan van de Wouw <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>
Subject: Re: Sound deadening material

on 15-2-2002 ss3042002 wrote:

> Has anyone installed any of the new products designed to reduce
> cockpit noise. These products are in vogue in the carsound world
> and I am hoping to reduce road and engine noise in the DMC-12.
[snip]
> I haven't  a clue if they would work in the Delorean.

I have thought about dampening when I was installing my speakers
in the rear wall, but didn't do so because of mainly two reasons:

1) dampening the fire wall would be fairly easy, but you'd still
have only a pane of glass between you and the engine as dampening
above the fire wall... Since the engine cover is open for most part
for cooling reasons there's allmost a straight open line between you
and the engine. The only barrier is the rear window.
2) I REALLY like the rumbling sound of the engine BEHIND me.
It's one of the things that -to me- makes the DeLorean a sportscar,
even if at first it was to be a mid-engined car.
And hearing the engine better enables me to respond to its' feedback.

Nah, why bother? Leave it as is; IMHO it's ot worth the money.

Jan van de Wouw

Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

#05141 "Dagger" since sept 2000
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 19:52:18 EST
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Full Throttle Switch

Shain, I am working on a replacement for the full throttle switch.
John hervey
http://www.specialtauto.com/



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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 19:59:18 -0800
From: id <ionicdesign_at_dml_execpc.com>
Subject: tire balancing

i read somewhere that the delorean tires have to balanced on the car is this true?

also can the tires be balanced on a regular tire machine instead of the car?


mark
vin #this summer i hope
also using a mac




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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 21:03:59 EST
From: Heydudetoo_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: need Rivnuts & tool

If you are asking for a Rivet nut & thread-sert tool check out J C Whitney 
for about $60.00 you can get one and a hand full of different size nuts. I 
have it , used it to replace the nuts which hold the access cover over the 
fuel pump area. Seem to work fine. I did move the holes on a couple that had 
been over sized but this tool worked fine.
Yours in the sport.
Jerry
Vin # 4890



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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 20:54:57 -0600
From: "Kevin Creason" <dmc4687_at_dml_mindspring.com>
Subject: Vin #11009

The original window sticker for DMC Vin #11009 is on ebay right now. (I
noticed Mr. Ernst is high bidder-- this post might make him mad, eh?)

Is this anyone's car?
Here's the Ebay id # 1804384178 .

I would have looked it up in the owner's directory, but I never received my
password for the secure site. Hmmm. Dave?

-Kevin
#4687




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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 22:23:09 -0500
From: "Rustproof" <Rustproof_at_dml_prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Re: Fuel Distributor: Learn what I'm learning!

What exactly are the numbers on a stock DMC fuel distributor? I have a unit
that I suspect is from a Volvo 760 but I can't verify this. My D runs OK but
it has always had a slightly high idle (1000rpm) as if there was a vacuum
leak. The engine has been checked very carefully and there are no leaks
whatsoever. Could an incorrect metering element emulate a vacuum leak? If
so, can this be adjusted with shims or possibly a new element? Are metering
elements available? Joe, any comment?
Thanks,
Rustproof
#1559




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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 22:32:01 -0500
From: "Rustproof" <Rustproof_at_dml_prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Re: need Rivnuts & tool

There's a rivnut tool on ebay right now...Auction # 1702040518 with 1 day
left. Just punch in "rivnut" on their search engine and you'll find it! The
unit is Standard but the nuts and metric pulls are available for this gun at
any autobody supply shop. Good luck!
Rustproof
#1559




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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 23:06:41 -0800
From: "William F. Lane" <blane_at_dml_triad.rr.com>
Subject: Re: need Rivnuts & tool

Walt,

The D vendors sell the rivnuts.  You can buy an installation kit at most 
Advance or Auto Zone or many auto parts stores for about $15 or $20 
bucks.  They come with an assortment of rivnuts and adapters for the 
different thread sizes. They look and operate very similar to pop rivet 
guns.  The big problem is that they are Standard threads and not Metric. 
 I duplicated one of my Std adaptors but substituted metric threads for 
the appropriate sizes.
It works like a champ.

Bill Lane
#3635





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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 04:56:12 -0000
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Re: Grease

Be careful in the use of silicone containing compounds. Two very 
important things to keep in mind are that if you use silicone anywhere 
near something you will paint it can cause tremendous contamination 
problems meaning "fish eyes". In the shop I had we used a spray on the 
TIG welders to keep the spatter from sticking inside the shields. That 
spray contaminated the paint room over 200 feet away. We had to 
convert to an non-silicone anti-spatter spray to finally eliminate the 
problem. The other thing to watch out for is some silicone compounds 
can contaminate and destroy the O2 sensor on the car. There have been 
cases of silicone containing compounds getting into the air intake and 
wiping out the O2 sensor. Using the wrong (not sensor safe) silicone 
sealer is also known to kill O2 sensors. Silicone also has a property 
known as "creep". It tends to migrate. It can get into switches and 
insulate the contacts. A few years back the telephone companies used 
silicone to lubricate the mechanical switches in their phone 
exchanges. The silicone crept into the contacts and caused erratic 
operation, it took hours and hours to mechanically clean out the 
silicone.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757


--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_c...> wrote:
> In the electronics world there are some interesting compounds, among
> these there is a very special silicone grease.  Actually this grease 
is
> offered as a heat-sink compound for mounting transistors but it's 
also
> the very best lubricant of it's type I've yet encountered.  By 
General
> Cement, GC number is 10-8101 (formerly 8101S) available at 
electronics





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