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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 909
Date: Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:11 AM

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There are 12 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Bumper Paint Question.
From: "William F. Lane" <blane_at_dml_triad.rr.com>

2. TOBY-TAB Technical Info
From: "tmpintnl" <tobyp_at_dml_katewwdb.com>

3. What happened to one of the BTTF DeLoreans
From: Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>

4. Re: Picture of DIN Bracket
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

5. Re: New Speaker Install...Save original car
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

6. leaky side mirror
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

7. RE: Vin #11009
From: "Montgomery, Ken" <kenm_at_dml_csus.edu>

8. Fuel Distrib.
From: "deloreanfl" <ericp_at_dml_tampabay.rr.com>

9. Poll results for dmcnews
From: dmcnews

10. RE: Bumper Paint Question.
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_att.net>

11. Re: Idle Speed thermistor
From: "deloreanfl" <ericp_at_dml_tampabay.rr.com>

12. Corrections
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net>





Message: 1
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 00:24:59 -0800
From: "William F. Lane" <blane_at_dml_triad.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Bumper Paint Question.

Walt,

E-mail me personally about the DMC Font.

Bill Lane
blane_at_dml_triad.rr.com





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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 05:32:04 -0000
From: "tmpintnl" <tobyp_at_dml_katewwdb.com>
Subject: TOBY-TAB Technical Info

Hello List - 

As you may know, the new TOBY-TAB's are now available for purchase at 
www.DeLorean-Parts.com .  I wanted to let everybody know that each 
shipment will contain a brief (?) technical piece on the TOBY-TAB as 
compared to the stock OEM bolt, as well as some installation 
instructions and hints.  The information also contains a chart of 
actual tensile test results for the comparison.  The chart shows the 
total load achieved by each bolt, and the total stretch or elongation 
that occurred during the test.  An explanation of how to read the 
chart is part of the technical write-up.  This information will also 
be made available as a link on the website.  As of this afternoon, 
the orders were being received at a brisk pace.  Current stock is 
limited to 100 sets of bolts, nuts, and washers (one set per car).  
Orders will be served on a first come - first served basis.  Again, I 
thank you for your patience during the long process of manufacturing 
and processing these excellent pieces of hardware.

Toby Peterson  VIN 2248
Winged1  




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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 22:00:42 -0800 (PST)
From: Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>
Subject: What happened to one of the BTTF DeLoreans

I met this guy on another message board. Try not to cringe.

http://www.samnet.net/alfaguy/timemachine/

http://www.samnet.net/alfaguy/timemachine/time_machine_pics.htm

-Christian




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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 00:27:46 -0500
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Picture of DIN Bracket

> From what i can tell, there is nothing to really hold an
> aftermarket radio in place except that same screw in the back that you
> mention.

Kevin,

When I installed my DIN radio, I drilled two holes on either side of the OEM
bracket (for a total of 4 holes).  These holes corresponded to mounting
points on the radio.  There was exactly 1" gap on either side, so I made
spacers using sections of 1/4" galvanized water pipe.  It worked great.  If
I were doing it again, I would do it the same way except I would have bought
a new DIN bracket instead of convert my OEM.  With the new radio being held
in place using a total of 4 points, the strap on the rear isn't necessary.
It was used on the OEM radio because without it the radio would be held only
by the front knobs.

Walt    Tampa, FL




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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 00:35:33 -0500
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: New Speaker Install...Save original car

On the topic of putting speakers in the rear panel & sound deadening
material, can anyone say what the four slots are for that are in the panel
directly under the rear window?  This is the panel that the courtesy light
fits in.  It looks like these slots are there just to conduct sound from the
engine compartment or maybe to just make me ask questions.

Walt    Tampa, FL




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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 01:35:33 -0500
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: leaky side mirror

In the process of going through my passenger door, I finally figured out why
so much water gets inside my door and drips on my windshield when the door
is open.  One of the extension/spacers at the top was too long preventing
the gasket from making a seal.  Water would then find its way in through the
mounting holes in the door skin.  The spacer that was too long had been
previously shortened.  I'm wondering if this is something that was done at
the factory or if a previous owner is responsible.  I had to shorten it by
another 2mm to get a good seal.

Walt    Tampa, FL





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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 23:47:27 -0800
From: "Montgomery, Ken" <kenm_at_dml_csus.edu>
Subject: RE: Vin #11009

VIN 11009 is not registered in the DeLorean Owners Directory.

Ken
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Ken Montgomery	Sacramento, CA  VIN #10911  'OUTTIME'
Keeper of the International DeLorean Owners Directory
http://www.dmcnews.com  mailto:directory_at_dml_dmcnews.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Creason [mailto:dmc4687_at_dml_mindspring.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 6:55 PM
> To: Dmc /dml
> Subject: [DML] Vin #11009
> 
> 
> The original window sticker for DMC Vin #11009 is on ebay 
> right now. (I
> noticed Mr. Ernst is high bidder-- this post might make him mad, eh?)
> 
> Is this anyone's car?
> Here's the Ebay id # 1804384178 .
> 
> I would have looked it up in the owner's directory, but I 
> never received my
> password for the secure site. Hmmm. Dave?
> 
> -Kevin
> #4687
> 
> 
> 
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 13:28:21 -0000
From: "deloreanfl" <ericp_at_dml_tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Fuel Distrib.

WOW -
From the number of personal emails I received - I guess I ruffled 
some feathers unexpectedly.  That was not my intention at all.

I do realized that some fuel distributors may work on the DeLorean. 
My point should have simply been to say that they are not all 
simply "bolt-on" replacements - be carefull if you are experimenting 
with different options.

By the way, I should correct a "typing" error in my response to Dave 
on the post.  The wrong FD was a mistake I did not make, but almost 
did.

Again, I appologize if I upset anyone without knowing.

Eric







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Message: 9
Date: 16 Feb 2002 14:21:26 -0000
From: dmcnews
Subject: Poll results for dmcnews


The following dmcnews poll is now closed.  Here are the 
final results: 


POLL QUESTION: What is your preference concerning 
tinted windows on a DeLorean? 

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- I don't like tinted windows at all., 7 votes, 12.07%  
- I like tinted windows., 8 votes, 13.79%  
- My favorite window tint color looks black from the outside., 4 votes, 6.90%  
- My favorite window tint color looks like a shade of gray from the outside., 4 votes, 6.90%  
- My favorite window tint color is the slightly reflective style that would compliment the car's stainless steel look., 6 votes, 10.34%  
- I think that a mix-matched window tint color would look cool (meaning different colors on the fixed & movable glass), 2 votes, 3.45%  
- I think mix-matched window tint colors would look bad., 7 votes, 12.07%  
- I think it would be a bad idea to tint the rear window AND the quarter panel windows., 6 votes, 10.34%  
- I would tint all the windows except the rear window., 11 votes, 18.97%  
- I would tint both the rear window AND the quarter panel windows., 3 votes, 5.17%  

INDIVIDUAL VOTES
- I don't like tinted windows at all. 
     - maryroseberg_at_dml_yahoo.com 
     - watbmv_at_dml_megalink.net 
     - louie_at_dml_delorean.com 
     - tmasin_at_dml_madisontelco.com 
     - paul_salsbury_at_dml_yahoo.co.uk 
     - jhaldeman_at_dml_fuse.net 
     - comet4055_at_dml_juno.com 
- I like tinted windows. 
     - ssdelorean_at_dml_yahoo.com 
     - phlawx_at_dml_earthlink.net 
     - jasperkins_at_dml_hotmail.com 
     - mpolans_at_dml_creeper.com 
     - tomciodmc_at_dml_poczta.onet.pl 
     - Whalt_at_dml_att.net 
     - DMC5524_at_dml_hotmail.com 
     - estribl1_at_dml_tampabay.rr.com 
- My favorite window tint color looks black from the outside. 
     - ssdelorean_at_dml_yahoo.com 
     - tomciodmc_at_dml_poczta.onet.pl 
     - DMC5524_at_dml_hotmail.com 
     - estribl1_at_dml_tampabay.rr.com 
- My favorite window tint color looks like a shade of gray from the outside. 
     - jasperkins_at_dml_hotmail.com 
     - aos+yahoo_at_dml_boom.net 
     - jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl 
     - comet4055_at_dml_juno.com 
- My favorite window tint color is the slightly reflective style that would compliment the car's stainless steel look. 
     - mvanyo_at_dml_delorean.com 
     - phlawx_at_dml_earthlink.net 
     - mpolans_at_dml_creeper.com 
     - tobyp_at_dml_katewwdb.com 
     - dmc4687_at_dml_mindspring.com 
     - Whalt_at_dml_att.net 
- I think that a mix-matched window tint color would look cool (meaning different colors on the fixed & movable glass) 
     - Whalt_at_dml_att.net 
     - DMC5524_at_dml_hotmail.com 
- I think mix-matched window tint colors would look bad. 
     - Verbrugghe_at_dml_delorean.com 
     - louie_at_dml_delorean.com 
     - phlawx_at_dml_earthlink.net 
     - jasperkins_at_dml_hotmail.com 
     - jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl 
     - comet4055_at_dml_juno.com 
     - estribl1_at_dml_tampabay.rr.com 
- I think it would be a bad idea to tint the rear window AND the quarter panel windows. 
     - jasperkins_at_dml_hotmail.com 
     - aos+yahoo_at_dml_boom.net 
     - dmc4687_at_dml_mindspring.com 
     - jpalatinus_at_dml_earthlink.net 
     - jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl 
     - comet4055_at_dml_juno.com 
- I would tint all the windows except the rear window. 
     - mvanyo_at_dml_delorean.com 
     - ssdelorean_at_dml_yahoo.com 
     - louie_at_dml_delorean.com 
     - phlawx_at_dml_earthlink.net 
     - mpolans_at_dml_creeper.com 
     - aos+yahoo_at_dml_boom.net 
     - dmc4687_at_dml_mindspring.com 
     - tomciodmc_at_dml_poczta.onet.pl 
     - jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl 
     - DMC5524_at_dml_hotmail.com 
     - khyron_21502_at_dml_yahoo.com 
- I would tint both the rear window AND the quarter panel windows. 
     - mikeatk_at_dml_concentric.net 
     - Whalt_at_dml_att.net 
     - estribl1_at_dml_tampabay.rr.com 


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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 06:06:51 -0600
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: RE: Bumper Paint Question.

Joe Murray worked at the DeLorean factory.  I had the pleasure of meeting
him and his wife at euro fest 1997.
Joe painted the lettering on a couple of media cars so that the name would
stand out.
Joe, if you are watching, how about some tips and tricks on how you painted
the lettering.

Scott Mueller
002981

-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Coe [mailto:Whalt_at_dml_att.net]
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 3:10 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DML] Bumper Paint Question.


> I'd like to paint the word
> "De Lorean" on my rear bumper.

That reminds me of a Lotus I saw with large white lettering on the rear
bumper.  It looked nice and made the car stand out.




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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 13:35:27 -0000
From: "deloreanfl" <ericp_at_dml_tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Idle Speed thermistor

Shain,

You may simply want to make sure the connector and contacts are not 
corroded. I have found that corroded contacts, poor grounds, etc. 
account for about 80-90% of my little problems.

You say it idles perfectly until it gets "really warmed"? The 
thermistor should change states around 15C (about 69 degrees F) that 
will happen fairly rapidly in the coolant system. It may not be your 
problem. 

You could simply check it with an OHM meter while cold and again 
while warm. That should tell you, before you go buy a part you don't 
need.

Good Luck.
Eric

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., shain_at_dml_e... wrote:
> Eric,
> 
> On ym car it idles perfectly until my car gets really warmed after 
> a good drive.  The my idle seems to be elevated a bit (400rpm),  and 
> maintains that right on.  I have cleaned everything, replaced alot, 
> and this was my last idea.  Let me give it try and see if it works.
> Thank you.
> 
> - Shain
> #10140
> 
> ----- In Response To -----
> 
> > Hi Shain,
> 
>> The thermistor in the Idle Speed circuit activates a circuit in the 
>> Idle Speed ECU, when the coolant is below 15 degrees C, which tells 
>> the ECU to open the idle speed regulator a little more - to allow the 
>> engine to idle faster when it is cold, or warming up.

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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 06:14:44 +0000
From: Les Huckins <jhuckins_at_dml_cybersurfers.net>
Subject: Corrections

1. WD-40 is an outstanding penetrating oil
2. Silicone grease migrates at the same rate as vaseline and is just as
destructive.
3. Armor All will not rot your tires even if used frequently.

Les




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