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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 912
Date: Monday, February 18, 2002 11:31 PM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Re: Mounting a DIN radio (Was: Re: Picture of DIN Bracket)
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

2. Alpine w/Turbo
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

3. RE: Replacement DMC Housont Radio Console Woes
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>

4. Re: What happened to one of the BTTF DeLoreans
From: "Joseph Molino" <foxmul_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>

5. Leaky Radiator
From: "Aaron PETERSON" <mrroboto1_at_dml_msn.com>

6. Re: Re: Coils
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com

7. Re: Antenna Wires
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com

8. Re: Strange DeLorean Sighting
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com

9. Re: brake fluid leakage
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>

10. Re: Re: WAS John Delorean and Reliability...NOW saving the cars (LONG)
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

11. Re: Can you grease those squeaky shocks?
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

12. AC Panel (and Misc.) illumination
From: "dmc6960" <ultra_at_dml_isd.net>

13. Re: Re: WAS John Delorean and Reliability...NOW saving the cars (LONG)
From: CatfishEd_at_dml_aol.com

14. Re: The Adventures of a Cadillac Alternator (long!)
From: "dmcman82" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>

15. RE: Replacement DMC Housont Radio Console Woes
From: Mark Noeltner <mark_at_dml_buffalochips.org>

16. Re: Replacement DMC Housont Radio Console Woes
From: wingd2_at_dml_aol.com

17. Re: brake fluid leakage
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>

18. Re: Replacement DMC Housont Radio Console Woes
From: "dmcman82" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>

19. Re: fastest delorean?
From: aaron mills <mich.d.svc_at_dml_delorean.com>

20. Re: Re: WAS John Delorean and Reliability...NOW saving the cars (LONG)
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com

21. DeLorean in Tracy, CA
From: Ian Stewart <istewart_at_dml_mac.com>

22. Re: Re: Coils
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com

23. Re: Coils
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>

24. Re: The Adventures of a Cadillac Alternator (long!)
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

25. Re: Can you grease those squeaky shocks?
From: DHughes030_at_dml_aol.com





Message: 1
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 15:07:40 -0500
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Re: Mounting a DIN radio (Was: Re: Picture of DIN Bracket)

> Big advantage is that I can remove my
> radio through the slot in front and can reach the wiring for the radio
very
> easily. With Walters' option I think you have to remove the concole.

This is correct.  My Alpine came with an outer sleeve that could be mounted
in the dash.  Then to remove the radio you just flip pins on either side and
the radio slides out.  There were two reasons why I didn't use the sleeve:
1) the cable coming from the fender mounted antenna was too short to slide
out the radio.  2) The sleeve wasn't very well designed.  It was meant to be
mounted by bending metal tabs to hold onto the DIN opening.  Such an install
would be good enough for a hack shop, but not for me -- too many squeaks &
rattles and nothing to support the back of the radio from falling down.
Since it was just a sleeve, there was no room to put fasteners (even rivets)
through it without obstructing the fit of the radio inside.  I didn't want
to do any welding or brazing, so I just bolted directly to the radio.  This
was meant to be a second mounting option anyway.

On the subject of radio mounting, has anyone thought to do anything about
the face plate for the a/c controls?  While driving last night I noticed
again how much light shines through on the edges.  I'm thinking that the
next time I have it out, I'll paint the edges with black paint to stop it.
Otherwise it looks cheap.

Walt    Tampa, FL




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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 16:03:36 -0500
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Alpine w/Turbo

On the subject of engine swaps / upgrades, here is an interesting Alpine
that is being auctioned on eBay as item # 1806232910


The relevance as applied to the DML is that they describe the engine as
being like the DeLorean and it is turbocharged.  Isn't this the same kind of
engine that someone in the Northwest put in their DeLorean?  It isn't too
far from where I am, so I'm tempted to go take a look at it and maybe
photograph the engine.

Rear engine, rear wheel drive
Fiberglass body
Turbocharged SOHC V6
2,458 cc (PRV engine, same as Delorean just with more HP)
Power SAE net 180 bhp _at_dml_ 5,900 rpm (more with the performance exhaust)
Torque SAE net 200 lb-ft _at_dml_ 4,000 rpm
0-60mph in 6.7 sec.
Standing 1- mile in 15.4 sec.
Top speed 147 mph
EPA city driving 19 mpg

Walt    Tampa, FL




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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 16:24:00 -0500
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>
Subject: RE: Replacement DMC Housont Radio Console Woes

So Mark,  What do you suggest I do?  DMC Houston only offers it one way.
I really want to use it, but If painting is not a good option, I am open to
other suggestions....

-----Original Message-----
From: Marc A. Levy [mailto:malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 12:18 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [DML] Replacement DMC Housont Radio Console Woes


I remember you saying this was a gift..

Back when I ordered my bracket from the MidState DMC club, they were
offering it in both Black and Stainless.  I opted to get the stainless.

The Houston web site does not seem to offer this as a option, but it's
possible that it may have been and your wife ordered the SS version.  Why
not call them and ask?

Don't paint it black.  It is supposed to be textured, and I think this can
be recreated with the correct process and paint.  The Mid-State DMC club did
offer a replica that matched the stock look (I saw it in Ohio).  However, if
it were me I would call Houston and ask.  If it is not what you want, return
it.

I don't think Mid-State sells the part any more (they don't like to compete
with Houston I guess), so you may not have too many other options.


-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Abato [mailto:delorean_at_dml_abato.net]
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 2:20 PM
To: Dmcnews (E-mail)
Subject: [DML] Replacement DMC Housont Radio Console Woes


(Please go to this web page pictures to ref. the topic below:
http://24.46.235.195:81/images/temp/)
Below (http://24.46.235.195:81/images/temp/) is a picture of my original OEM
console with the new DIN cut replacement console from DMC Houston on the
right. My question is, When I install the new DMC console, it does not have
a black finish like the original. I originally realized this problem when I
bought the console, but DMC Houston assured me that the vents, and radio
cover all surface areas. This is not true.
If you see below, the red arrows show areas on the ORIGINAL console that are
visable to the naked eye (even when the center console is on the unit) and
those SAME areas on the replacement one now look like silver sheet metal.
What is the correct thing to do here? I bought this $150 replacement so that
the car looks unmodified. If I use this unit, IT WILL STAND OUT.
Should I spray paint it black? Will that still look good when done? What
have other people done? What does DMC Houston recommend to other buyers?
Kevin Abato


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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 16:18:01 -0500
From: "Joseph Molino" <foxmul_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>
Subject: Re: What happened to one of the BTTF DeLoreans

*****  Moderator's Note  *****
This is the last post in this thread.  The topic is
more pertinent to the BTTF newsgroup.

Mike G - Moderator of the Week



Erik,

I am quite certain that this car was used to film BTTF the ride footage, not
the movie.

Joseph
----- Original Message -----
From: "erikgeerdink" <erikgeerdink_at_dml_yahoo.com>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [DML] What happened to one of the BTTF DeLoreans


> They said the car was used  to slide the rear end around, and they
> had to remove the engine because of too much weight.  THe only part I
> can think of in the movie that this happends was when Einstein went
> back in time and then you saw the delorean slide.
>
> Erik
>
>
>
> --- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Bob Brandys <BobB_at_dml_s...> wrote:
> > The BTTF DeLorean shown in these pictures is one of the cars that
> was only shot from the
> > outside.  The give away is the unique steering wheel.  The button
> controls on the
> > steering wheel were never used in the movies.
>
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 15:27:52 -0600
From: "Aaron PETERSON" <mrroboto1_at_dml_msn.com>
Subject: Leaky Radiator

On my DeLorean, I have noticed that the radiator is leaking ant-freeze only when it sits; not when it is running. I crawled under the car and there is no anti-freeze leaking out of any of the hoses , but there is anti-freeze leaking out of the bolts that holds up the air vent, right under the front bumper. I notice puddles of anti-freeze right by the front driver side tire. That is the only place where it leaks. I was wondering is worse comes to worse and the radiator needs to be replaced, is that a special made radiator or will another radiator from another model car will work just as good? Thanks a lot!

Aaron
car#7126
Take Pride In Yourself!


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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 16:32:31 EST
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: Re: Re: Coils

Marty,
Thanks very much. 
Great list.
I've never enjoyed such levels of support and knowledge with any other car 
I've owned.
Makes the whole experience that much more appealing and enjoyable.
The unique combination of the car itself, and the list that supports it, 
makes everything to do with the DMC that much more fun and rewarding.
Jim


n a message dated 2/18/02 3:59:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, wingd2_at_dml_aol.com 
writes:

<< he "fix" I used on my turbo car was to install an aftermarket high 
 performance coil. I chose an "Accel #8140" coil. This unit is a direct 
 replacement that will even fit the original mounting bracket. It is a "plug 
 and play" type part and requires no additional wiring or parts. Just remove 
 the original coil and replace with this unit. This coil puts out about 50% 
 more voltage (about 22,000 volts) then the original unit and works well with 
 the rest of the D's ignition system. Additional dyno testing last year shows 
 the original ignition problems are now gone and the car will pull to 6000 
 plus rpm's with no problems. >>



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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 16:13:27 EST
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: Re: Antenna Wires

Check the original antenna wiring diagram in the manual. The stock unit uses 
a relay in the compartment behind the drivers seat that after market units do 
not require. Run right from the radio to the antenna and wire it as per the 
new units instructions.



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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 16:14:40 EST
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: Re: Strange DeLorean Sighting

Delorean Cadillac Cleveland Ohio area. Relative of JZD. Brother or Nephew. 
Can't remember which.



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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 22:07:45 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: Re: brake fluid leakage

Same situation here. Whenever the D sits for a period of time that 
lets it get cold, the brake fluid starts to leak. On my car, the leak 
appears to be from the rubber seals between the brake Master 
Cylinder, and the brake fluid Reservoir. The problem with this leak 
is it will eat the epoxy off of the chassis on both sides. Some of 
the fluid will drip down between the gas tank, and the chassis. To 
check and see if this is your problem, pull the access panel in the 
trunk to inspect it. Be wary if the gas tank has a 'wet' look to it. 
You can also turn the steering wheel to get visual access to the side 
of the chassis.

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Hank Eskin" <heskin_at_dml_b...> wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
>     I've begun to notice that when my D sits for more than a week 
(usually
> two weeks during the winter), I'm losing a bit of brake fluid.
<SNIP>




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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 21:36:25 +0000
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Re: WAS John Delorean and Reliability...NOW saving the cars (LONG)

If you put yourself in his shoes, think how you'd feel? We all have our "calling" in
life, and some of us get to give it a go. What if that thing you worked so hard to
achieve all turned to crap, and it was all out of your control? What if the reasons for
it being crap were nothing to do with the product itself?

It'd leave a bad taste in MY mouth. I'd want to have nothing to do with it and distance
myself from anything to do with my dream-come-nightmare.

But, 20 years on, to realise that out there are thousands of people who love and cherish
the item you made, and none of them really give two hoots about the mess that surrounded
the failure of your dream, but simply that they still love living that dream. It's THOSE
people I'd really like to meet and chat to, and simply to be around.

Hopefully this is what John realised last year, and is why he's planning to attend
Memphis. Now which bit of my car shall I bring with me for him to sign?.....

Martin
DOC UK
#1458






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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 21:38:21 +0000
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Can you grease those squeaky shocks?

I'll probably be told I shouldn't have done this, but a squirt of PTFE spray shut mine up
(4-years standing still). Be sure to also do the roll-bar bushes as these can squeak too.
Mine did.

Martin
#1458

dmc83_gullwing wrote:

> Everytime I go over a any type of bump, my shocks squeak.  They dont
> bounce all around as if they were bad, they just squeak.  Is there
> anything that I can grease or lube to get all the squeaks out?
>
> Thanks,
> Jason




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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 21:58:08 -0000
From: "dmc6960" <ultra_at_dml_isd.net>
Subject: AC Panel (and Misc.) illumination

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> 
> On the subject of radio mounting, has anyone thought to do anything 
about
> the face plate for the a/c controls?  While driving last night I 
noticed
> again how much light shines through on the edges.  I'm thinking that 
the
> next time I have it out, I'll paint the edges with black paint to 
stop it.
> Otherwise it looks cheap.
> 
> Walt    Tampa, FL

Walt and others....

As a side project to go along with the backlit instrument cluster, I 
am hoping to create a new AC panel (both plastic panel and decal) 
which will be of much higher quality than the original unit.  Also, 
the decal for this panel with be of the late 81 style, which in my 
opinion is much better looking than the early ones or the currently 
availible replacements.  This will be illuminated by LEDs in a similar 
manner as mentioned by someone on this list a while back.  PLUS, it 
will also be compatible with a new dimmer switch to be used for the 
backlit instrument cluster, so they both will illuminate evenly.

A few more items which are in the works, are clear inserts for the 
control knobs on the AC panel (so you can see what your selecting at 
night) and new decals for the headlight and hazard buttons which WILL 
NOT fade when pushed on.

Look for all of this to shortly follow the release the backlit 
instument cluster which will hopefully be availible twords the end of 
this year (but dont hold me to that). (And there may even be a sneak 
peek at Memphis).

If anybody has questions about any of these items, please email me 
directly at ultra(at)isd.net

Jim Reeve
MNDMC - Minnesota DeLorean Club
DMC-6960




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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 17:33:14 EST
From: CatfishEd_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: WAS John Delorean and Reliability...NOW saving the cars (LONG)

I HAVE A DELOREAN WITH FEWER THAN 8000 MI.  IT WAS OWNED BY A FRIEND OF MINE 
BEFORE I GOT IT WITH 2700 MI. IT WAS STORED ON BLOCKS, WITH A COVER, IN AN 
AIRPLANE HANGER.  HE DIDN'T LIKE IT AS HE WAS MUCH TOO TALL FOR IT. 
I AM CONSIDERING SELLING IT, BUT I HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH THEY ARE GOING FOR.  
EVERYTHING IS ORIGINAL EVEN THE TIRES.  IT HAS GRAY LEATHER, AND IS IN 
PERFECT CONDITION.  THE ONLY PERSON THAT DOES THE TUNE UPS ON IT IS A PORSCHE 
EXPERT FROM GERMANY. I HAVE ALL OF THE PAPERS ON IT, ALONG WITH SOME BOOKS.  
WOULD YOU MIND TELLING ME HOW MUCH YOU PAID FOR IT?  THAT WOULD GIVE ME AN 
IDEA OF THE GOING PRICE AT THE MOMENT.  I WOULDN'T SELL IT UNLESS I GOT A 
GOOD PRICE FOR IT.  THERE IS NO REAL NEED, JUST THAT I HAVE LITTLE TIME TO 
ENJOY IT, AND PERHAPS ANOTHER WOULD GET A LOT OF HAPPINESS FROM IT. 

THANKS,
CATFISHED_at_dml_AOL.COM 


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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 01:28:09 -0000
From: "dmcman82" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>
Subject: Re: The Adventures of a Cadillac Alternator (long!)

Hmmm...I did it an easier way. I got a 105 AMP alternator from a 
chevy cavalier and I used the original adjustment arm. Only 
modifications needed was to sut a small amount off the alternator 
mount that attaches to the engine and install a new plug onto the 
harness. Alternator is the same size as the alternator.

Steve

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Travis Goodwin <tgoodwin_at_dml_v...> wrote:
> [First off, let me say that I can't be held resonsible if you hurt 
yourself
> or cuse your car to trvel in tim unexpectedly by doing what I'm 
about to
> detail. This will be my first white paper on the Cadillac 
Alternator. Most
> documentation on the web I found helpful, but ultimately I thought 
I would
> document my own experiences to help anyone else who might want to 
try this.]
> 
> First off, my car had the original Ducy alternator and had burned 
through 2
> batteries before I wised up. I investigated the Motorola and other
> replacements from PJ Grady but decided to do it the hard (and less
> expensive) way.
> 
> All of the parts that I used are available at Advance Auto. Here 
they are:
> 
> P7157 100 Amp Alternator from a 1980 Cadillac Deville - $69 with 
$30 core
> DAYCO 15515 Alternator Belt - $14
> Mr Gasket Co. alternator adjustment arm #9851 - $13
> Calterm GM alternator plug #08602 - $3
> A pack of male terminal ends - $1
> 
<SNIP>
> Enjoy!
> 
> Travis
> #3512 (with a shiny new "cop car" alternator)




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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 18:40:32 -0700
From: Mark Noeltner <mark_at_dml_buffalochips.org>
Subject: RE: Replacement DMC Housont Radio Console Woes

I've run across textured black spray paints for use in trunks. You should
be able to get it at most auto parts stores. Why not try some of that.
Paint a beer/soda can first to make sure it looks like something you could
live with, and if it is, just lightly sand and clean the radio bracket and
paint it.

Mark N
VIN 6820

At 04:24 PM 2/18/02 -0500, you wrote:
>So Mark,  What do you suggest I do?  DMC Houston only offers it one way.
>I really want to use it, but If painting is not a good option, I am open to
>other suggestions....
>




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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 20:55:51 EST
From: wingd2_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Replacement DMC Housont Radio Console Woes

In a message dated 2/18/02 4:34:02 PM Central Standard Time, 
delorean_at_dml_abato.net writes:


> So Mark,  What do you suggest I do?  DMC Houston only offers it one way.
> I really want to use it, but If painting is not a good option, I am open to
> other suggestions....
> 
> 

  Kevin,
     Mark is correct, I/we (MidState Delorean Club) no longer make the 
replacement radio bracket because the guys at DMC Houston are now making one. 
What I used to do to achieve the "original" black grained finish on the 
bracket is to use a black "wrinkle" type spray paint. This stuff is available 
at most auto parts stores and by playing with it and trying a few different 
techniques, you can come real close to matching the original finish. 

   Good luck,  Marty


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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 21:29:42 -0500
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: brake fluid leakage

Hank,

Did your car have this leak before you had DMC Joe service the brakes?  If
there was a leak at the calipers, he would have seen it.  I suggest taking
all the wheels off and inspecting again for any sings of leakage.  There is
a chance that your leak could be elsewhere in the system such as in one of
the flexible hoses running to each caliper or at one of the "T" junctions in
the front or the rear UNDER the car.  When my master cylinder sprung a leak,
it leaked at the junction between the master cylinder & the power assist.
The fluid leaked straight down, so it wasn't obvious by looking on the top
side.  When I saw the puddle on the floor, it looked like a coolant leak.
When I pressure tested the coolant system, I DID have a leak in that area.
I tightened the leaky hose only to wonder where else the leak was coming
from.  It was the master cylinder, not the coolant system.  If your brake
system has only a small leak, maybe there are enough surfaces around the
frame & fuel tank to soak it up before it could drip on the floor.  If your
master & calipers are very old, you might ought to go on and rebuild them.

PJ Grady sells a float that isn't an exact replacement but can be made to
fit by changing the connectors.  With it, I have some peace of mind knowing
that I might have some warning before the brakes are compromised.

Walt    Tampa, FL




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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 01:31:01 -0000
From: "dmcman82" <srubano_at_dml_optonline.com>
Subject: Re: Replacement DMC Housont Radio Console Woes

You can powdercoat it with a textured finish to match the origianl 
finish AND it will be a lot mor durable then paint.

Steve

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> So Mark,  What do you suggest I do?  DMC Houston only offers it 
one way.
> I really want to use it, but If painting is not a good option, I 
am open to
> other suggestions....
> 
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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 16:13:43 -0800 (PST)
From: aaron mills <mich.d.svc_at_dml_delorean.com>
Subject: Re: fastest delorean?

I HAVE GOTTEN UP TO 128MPH -NEWER ENGINE, LONG FLAT STRETCH  HIGHWAY
 ALL STOCK W/ 5SPD. I HAVE ONLY DONE THIS ONCE, AND IT TOOK SEVERAL MILES TO TOP OUT.


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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 21:45:39 EST
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: Re: Re: WAS John Delorean and Reliability...NOW saving the cars (LONG)

In a message dated 2/18/02 5:49:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
CatfishEd_at_dml_aol.com writes:

<< EVERYTHING IS ORIGINAL EVEN THE TIRES.  IT HAS GRAY LEATHER, AND IS IN 
 PERFECT CONDITION.  THE ONLY PERSON THAT DOES THE TUNE UPS ON IT IS A 
PORSCHE 
 EXPERT FROM GERMANY. I HAVE ALL OF THE PAPERS ON IT, ALONG WITH SOME BOOKS.  
 WOULD YOU MIND TELLING ME HOW MUCH YOU PAID FOR IT?  THAT WOULD GIVE ME AN 
 IDEA OF THE GOING PRICE AT THE MOMENT. >>

Mileage doesn't matter much.
Whats the vin # ?
Has it been driven regularly?
Is the frame rusty up front.
Even though it's low miles it's probably gonna need the following very soon 
unless they've already been replaced.
Brake Master cyl, clutch master cyl, clutch slave cyl, tires, shocks, hoses, 
alternator upgrade, radiator, coolant flush, electrical upgrades or repairs 
(locks, fans, fuel sender etc..), probably caliper rebuilds front and rear, 
maybe TAB's (trailing arm bolts), door struts, trunk struts, louvre struts, 
tail light circuit board upgrade, steering col lower bushing, belts, O2 
sensor, etc...
Hows the headliner? Sagging? Has the foam deteriorated?
How are the door weather strips?
Any dents or dings?
Optional side stripe?
Five speed or auto?
Do the locks work?
Interior lights work and shut off on timer?
Clock work?
Radio original and working with display?
Antenna, electric, windshield or fender?
Louvre cracked?
Head light facia sagging?
Any sun damage?
Windows work and on tracks?
Window switches good?
Rear defroster and switch good?
Mode switch for heater and air functioning?
Noisy blower fan motor?
Good heat?
Good air?
Speedo and all guages work?
Does the oil pressure gauge dance around?
Recalls / updates performed? (door guides, crumple tube reinforcement, ball 
joint recall, throttle spool/cable recall etc..)
Original OM and sticker?
Does it leak when it rains?
Is the steering column universal joint stiff?
Did it ever sit with fuel in it?

That was fun....
next.... :-)




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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 18:46:38 -0800
From: Ian Stewart <istewart_at_dml_mac.com>
Subject: DeLorean in Tracy, CA

Hello list,

I live in Tracy, CA (60 miles east of SF, 60 miles south of Sacramento) 
and at a truck service/shipping yard (First Class Truck Service) at the 
intersection of Paradise and Grant Line roads, about a mile from where I 
live, there sits a DeLorean. The proprietors of the yard know very 
little about the car and don't seem to know who the owner is at all, but 
from looking at the car from somewhat of a distance, I can tell the 
following: It is an '81 with hood lines and fuel flap, and seemingly a 
black interior. All four tires are going flat and there is a blemish of 
some sort on the passenger-side door. There's a small bump on the 
driver's side quarter panel above the glass, so I take this to mean the 
car has the retractable radio antenna. I do not know if it is an 
automatic or a manual, and I didn't get close enough to get a VIN 
number. However, the plates on the car indicate that it hasn't been 
registered since 1983. Also, I was told that the car has a blown engine. 
Since the owners of the truck yard don't know who the car belongs to, 
I've been trying to find the owner myself. It's probably a long shot, 
but this list seems to have a diverse collection of DeLorean owners as 
well as lurkers, so I hope somebody on here can help me. Thanks in 
advance to anyone who can.

istewart




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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 21:49:44 EST
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: Re: Re: Coils

In a message dated 2/18/02 3:59:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, wingd2_at_dml_aol.com 
writes:

<< The "fix" I used on my turbo car was to install an aftermarket high 
 performance coil. I chose an "Accel #8140" coil. This unit is a direct 
 replacement that will even fit the original mounting bracket. It is a "plug 
 and play" type part and requires no additional wiring or parts.  >>

Marty,
With the Accel coil is it necessary to keep the ballast resistor and relay 
wiring, or can I run it at a full 12 volts all the time? I'm in the middle of 
an engine compartment wiring purge and I'd like get as much of the 
unnecessary wiring out as I can.
Thanks,
Jim



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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 20:56:06 -0600
From: James Espey <james_at_dml_usadmc.com>
Subject: Re: Coils

David Teitlebaum wrote:
 
> car run better even if it seems to run fine now. Just don't use an
> N.O.S. coil as it too would be over 20 years old, it just was sitting
> on a shelf. Same goes for the ignition wires, cap, rotor, and spark

Marty Maier wrote:

> One other bit of info, for what it's worth. When we did our 2nd round of
> dyno testing this past fall, we also ran another D which had a stock ignition
> system but was running a NEW (20 year old) OEM Bosch replacement coil from
> DMC Houston, and this car pulled 6000 plus rpm with NO ignition problems
> either.


I had read David's comments about the original coils, and also read John
Hervey's as well before getting to Marty's posting. All of our restored and
refurbished cars get new OEM 20 year old coils, as do all of the performance
engines we install - and we have not experienced any problems with them at
6500+ RPM. Dyno testing of the cars backs this up, as Marty mentions.

James




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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 22:39:02 EST
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: The Adventures of a Cadillac Alternator (long!)

Travis, You must not have looked very far. The Delorean 150 (150Amp) on my 
web site is a small Delco bolt on replacement with a three year warr. No Mods.
John hervey
http://www.specialtauto.com/alternators.shtml 

<<  I haven't heard of anyone
 getting a direct replacement without having to modify it somewhat. 
  >>



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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 22:47:39 EST
From: DHughes030_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Can you grease those squeaky shocks?

I'll bet it's your front sway bar bushings that are squeaking mine did.  Take 
them out, clean them up and grease them well with a silicone grease.  I'm a 
Ford technician and we have a grease entitled "silicone brake caliper and 
dielectric grease" that wears long and well.
Don,  #6860



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