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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 950
Date: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 6:24 PM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. What Country do you live in?
From: Jan van de Wouw <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>

2. Re: poor acceleration... maybe she's just sleepy.. fuel and etc.
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

3. Shipping costs anyone?
From: "delorean_dreamer" <ef004a6176_at_dml_blueyonder.co.uk>

4. Re: Re: Low Voltage at Idle
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

5. WardsAuto.com interview
From: "Eric" <tre_at_dml_raex.com>

6. RE: Today the first of many
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>

7. Re: Another solution for window felt
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>

8. I'm Back!
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

9. semi off-topic: DesignGiugiaro badges
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

10. RE: Shipping costs anyone?
From: "Chris Parnham" <chrisparnham_at_dml_cwcom.net>

11. RE: Re: Another solution for window felt
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>

12. RE: I'm Back!
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_att.net>

13. Woodward Dream Cruise - MI
From: Shannon Yocom <ssdelorean_at_dml_yahoo.com>

14. Making a Automatic in to a 5-speed.
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>

15. Re: Making a Automatic in to a 5-speed.
From: Robert Brandys <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com>

16. New DeLorean Article
From: Senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com

17. Re: I'm Back!
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

18. washer/wiper woes
From: "stevepeck1" <stevepeck1_at_dml_yahoo.com>

19. Re: I'm Back!
From: "Joe Thome" <joethome_at_dml_jps.net>

20. An offer worth looking at...
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com

21. wiper arm jet
From: "stevepeck1" <stevepeck1_at_dml_yahoo.com>

22. Foomp and Thunk. Good noises.
From: "stevepeck1" <stevepeck1_at_dml_yahoo.com>

23. Re: Shipping costs anyone?
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

24. Re: Re: Re: Low Voltage at Idle
From: shain_at_dml_elecmods.com

25. Delorean for Sale
From: "dmc812001" <dmc812001_at_dml_yahoo.com>





Message: 1
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 21:09:32 +0100
From: Jan van de Wouw <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>
Subject: What Country do you live in?

Hello everyone,

Looking through a couple of weeks worth  of postings made me curious:
most of you seem to come from the US, but who doesn't?

I know there are at least readers/posters from The Netherlands, Germany,
France, United Kingdom, Norway and Switzerland, but where does everybody
else live?

To find out I made a poll, available for your votes on
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmcnews/surveys?id=887968
Please be honest and let us know where you're from.
Since I only had 25 options available I had to trim the list a bit,
hopefully I won't get too many "Other" votes.

Results will be posted to the list in one month.
Thanks for voting!

JAN van de Wouw
Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

#05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 16:23:22 EST
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: poor acceleration... maybe she's just sleepy.. fuel and etc.

If the fuel pump looses power and the car bucks,  a bad connection at the fuse, A defective RPM relay, or the Inertia switch could be breaking ground or loosing connection. But, If the pump is running and your able to drive the car, then the power loss is more than likley in the tune up or in the fuel distribution. A very common problem is the warm up regulator, they are getting 20years old. When was the last tune up.
John hervey
www.specialtauto.com


these symptoms?




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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 22:02:12 -0000
From: "delorean_dreamer" <ef004a6176_at_dml_blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Shipping costs anyone?

Hello group!!
 
I was wondering if anyone has any idea how much it would cost to ship 
a delorean over to the UK?
 
I am looking to buying one in the future, but I would like to get an 
overall cost, not just the price of the car.
 
Any clues or information on this will be greatly appreciated!
 
Cheers,
 
Adrian Field,
England,
UK
ef004a6176_at_dml_blueyonder.co.uk 





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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 16:16:30 EST
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: Low Voltage at Idle

Shain, I have never done what your doing, this would take some studing out on my part and right now I don't have the time. What are you trying to accomplish.?????
Your not going to get around low voltage at idle unless everything is turned off and the pulley is spinning faster to generate voltage and current.
John Hervey
 



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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 17:46:15 -0500
From: "Eric" <tre_at_dml_raex.com>
Subject: WardsAuto.com interview

In the story, author Al Rothenberg notes that;
"DeLorean admires Lee Iacocca from afar, but never thought about working with
him."

Really?

Chapter 17 of Iacocca's autobiography notes that, in 1979;
"DeLorean, who had started his own automobile company after leaving General
Motors, came to see me about the possibility of merging his company into
Chrysler."

Of course, that never happened. But Lido then notes that JZD wanted him to
consider an R&D tax shelter, and had even prepared a "...huge study for me that
cost him something like fifty or sixty thousand dollars."


Eric




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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 18:33:35 -0500
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>
Subject: RE: Today the first of many

I had the same problem with my car once...turned out that it needed to be
bleed.

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Salsbury [mailto:paul.salsbury_at_dml_btinternet.com]
Subject: [DML] Today the first of many

After 9 month of owning my car today I took her to work for her first run
out in the 'wild' legally, taxed and MOT'd and didn't that feel just great!!
I ran the car to work 20miles, no problems there she sat for 5 hours. I then
had to go to another stop 30 miles away, again no problems, about 20 min
after parking I took some people out to see her, and to my horror she was
dripping underneath (coolant) this progressively got worse until it was a
steady stream, eventually stopping when there was none left.

Any Ideas.......  Phantom leak???

Cheers
Paul
#6463



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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 23:58:55 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: Re: Another solution for window felt

Velcro fuzzy strips should work ok. But the problem isn't with the 
strips. It's the glue that holds them in place. It has a tendancy to 
soften, and come loose in extreme heat. I used Krazy Glue to recover 
my felt strips. worked like a charm on both doors, and with the door 
trim next to the A pillars as well.

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_f...> wrote:
> A couple people have mentioned to me that they've used 1" velcro as 
window
> felt. Just another tip I thought I'd pass along to the group.'
> 
> -Christian




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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 00:07:47 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: I'm Back!


To all,

I'm happy to announce that I'm back; click on the link below for a message
to all my fellow DML friends and associates.
http://www.geocities.com/dmcjoe/dmlstatement.html

Regards,
DMC Joe
DeLorean Help dmchelp_at_dml_att.net
www.dmc.tv





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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 18:32:56 EST
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: semi off-topic: DesignGiugiaro badges

Hey all,

i'm currently seeking leads on obtaining a set of silver on black badges from 
an 88-89 Eagle Premier which say "DesignGiugiaro"  which i can put on my 
DeLorean (maybe).  If anyone knows where i can find some, or anything else 
similar from other Giugiaro cars, please let me know!  i have tried the 
dealer and a salvage yard with no success and i can't find anything on the 
internet either.

Thanks!
Andy

Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102


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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 08:58:03 -0000
From: "Chris Parnham" <chrisparnham_at_dml_cwcom.net>
Subject: RE: Shipping costs anyone?

Adrian,
We in the UK club have 3 members who have shipped cars in from the USA in
last 6 months, visit our website and join our club and  newsgroup.
www.delorean.co.uk.

As a rough guide, depending how you do it etc. I recon you can turn Dollars
into Pounds ( sterling) by the time its here, running and ready for the
road, but more of course if it needs a lot of work.

Chris P DOC Hon sec.

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Subject: [DML] Shipping costs anyone?


Hello group!!

I was wondering if anyone has any idea how much it would cost to ship
a delorean over to the UK?


Adrian Field,
England,
UK
ef004a6176_at_dml_blueyonder.co.uk




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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 06:57:54 -0500
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>
Subject: RE: Re: Another solution for window felt

Can this be done without disassembling the door?

-----Original Message-----
From: therealdmcvegas [mailto:DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com]
Subject: [DML] Re: Another solution for window felt

Velcro fuzzy strips should work ok. But the problem isn't with the
strips. It's the glue that holds them in place. It has a tendancy to
soften, and come loose in extreme heat. I used Krazy Glue to recover
my felt strips. worked like a charm on both doors, and with the door
trim next to the A pillars as well.

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"



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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 07:12:57 -0600
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: RE: I'm Back!

Joe,
Sorry about your loss and I am glad that you are back.

I read your web page about your help club.  Does this mean that you will not
post to the DML?  I like the responses that you post and would miss you and
your expertise if you only respond to Help Club members.

Scott Mueller
002981

-----Original Message-----
From: DMC Joe
Subject: [DML] I'm Back!

I'm happy to announce that I'm back; click on the link below for a message
to all my fellow DML friends and associates.
http://www.geocities.com/dmcjoe/dmlstatement.html

Regards,
DMC Joe
DeLorean Help dmchelp_at_dml_att.net
www.dmc.tv





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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 07:44:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Shannon Yocom <ssdelorean_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Woodward Dream Cruise - MI

HEY Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois, Canada and any others interested . . .  

The DeLorean Club of Ohio (DCO) is planning a day trip up to the 8th Annual Woodward Dream Cruise
this August 17th in Detroit Michigan. And we were wondering if any other D
owners/enthusiasts/clubs wanted to meet up with the DCO caravan. 

For those who have never heard of this event it is an insanely huge gathering of all kinds of
autos that stretch for blocks upon blocks as far as the eye can see. The autos attending usually
include anywhere from Muscle, Model T's, Rods, Classic, to Exotics etc. et al. Being Detroit there
will be plenty of Muscle. You can check out the official website at http://www.dreamcruise.org/ 
right now it is still under construction but has the basic info up.

I will be putting more info about this event in the upcoming DCO newsletters as plans progress. I
will also post to the DML closer to the event. If your not in the DCO and  plan on attending and
want to meet up with the DCO caravan please contact me off list so I can keep you informed as to
our plans.

Shannon
VIN# Not Yet!

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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:45:26 -0500
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>
Subject: Making a Automatic in to a 5-speed.

We all know the frames are not the same, but has anyone installed a 5 speed in a automatic frame?  I suspect this is more difficult than the other way around, but have been told it is possible.

If you have done this, can you discuss the details of the conversion?

Thanks



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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:19:42 -0600
From: Robert Brandys <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com>
Subject: Re: Making a Automatic in to a 5-speed.

Marc,

As you know, I changed my 5 speed to an automatic.

The easy part is adapting the shifter.  It is higher up on the stick and 
lower on the automatic.

However, the frame mounts are a problem.  The automatic brackets are 
different from the stick . You would have to change these.  Welding may 
also be necessary.  You could fabricate the backets yourself and weld 
them on the frame. They were of the same thickness as the frame steel.

Bob






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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 11:58:20 EST
From: Senatorpack_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: New DeLorean Article



The current issue of British Car Magazine, February-March 2001 features a 5 
page article on the DeLorean saga from Graham Robson. Graham must have 
consulted with Quentin Wilson on the story...in my opinion.  Any comments 
from former employees or current DMC owners are missing.

Best Wishes,
Michael



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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 13:04:01 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: I'm Back!

Scott,

Thanks for your response and concern.

You asked:
        Does this mean that you will not post to the DML?

I'm happy to say that the new club will not diminish my participation on the
DML. As a matter of fact I will return to the DML today.

Regards,
DMC Joe
DeLorean Help dmchelp_at_dml_att.net
www.dmc.tv
http://shopping.oraclesmallbusiness.com/dsvstore




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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 18:46:00 -0000
From: "stevepeck1" <stevepeck1_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: washer/wiper woes

My washer does not work.  The jet I discovered is also missing.  Just 
an open hose fitting at teh end of the line.

Also my wipers only work in speed one.  Anyone venture any guesses or 
test procedures?

If the motor is suspect, how do I get to it to pull it?

Thanks,

-Steve #3302




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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:24:19 -0800
From: "Joe Thome" <joethome_at_dml_jps.net>
Subject: Re: I'm Back!

Joe,

Is the only difference in the three levels of membership the speed with
which you reply to the member's question?
In other words, if I subscribe to your basic level, will I get the same
amount of help as with the First Class level but I'll only have to wait
longer for the reply?

Joe
VIN 6467

----- Original Message -----
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: [DML] I'm Back!
>
> To all,
>
> I'm happy to announce that I'm back;



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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 14:15:42 EST
From: njp548_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: An offer worth looking at...

Have you just painted your De Lorean and your not getting the notoriety your 
car once got when it was stainless?  Have you ever stopped at a stop light 
and not had anyone checking out the car with envy wishing they were you?  If 
you've answered yes to any of these two questions then I got the perfect 
thing for you!  Since I recently changed out my front brake pads on my car 
since they squealed SOO badly, I now have them available to anyone who wants 
to be noticed when they stop the car.  These things work perfectly!  Even 
when the car is cold and you go to stop at the first stop sign in the 
morning, they squeal instantly!  Only one set available so please act now.  
They are sure to go very fast.  They include the pins clips and springs and 
even dried up anti-squeal compound on the back of the pads for free!  
Operators are standing by so please act fast!

Later,
Nick Pitello
1852
15914
<A HREF="Http://members.aol.com/njp548">Http://members.aol.com/njp548</A>



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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 20:48:38 -0000
From: "stevepeck1" <stevepeck1_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: wiper arm jet

What are folks using for their wiper arm jet?  Mine is missing. The 
original part is $14.  What is it?  

-Steve




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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 20:59:36 -0000
From: "stevepeck1" <stevepeck1_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Foomp and Thunk. Good noises.

Got your attention, didn't I?

I want to share some new knowledge on trunk lid adjustment and I am 
looking for words of wisdom on door adjustment.

Thunk:
My trunk lid on my recently purchased #3302 didn't thunk or otherwise 
pop-up the deck lid when the handle was pulled.  Turns out that the 
catch adjustment was as far adjusted as it could go, but that was 
still not far enough.  In my case, I had to remove the stationary 
side of the hood latch and slightly elongate the bolt holes in the 
base and the mechanism, so that the hood when closed would sit a 
little lower.  Now with a pull of the handle, the hood "thunks" up 
just a bit.  A little tug upwards on the hood and it gloriously 
glides up.  (new strut from Pep Boys.)

Foomp:
My passenger door, when closed from the outside with pressure from 
the heel of my hand in the middle of the door, just above the rud-
strip "foomps" closed without interference from the door catch pins.

The driver's door requires considerably more effort to overcome the 
last-nanosecond rub of the pins on the aluminum door guides.  maybe 
the door has gotten a bit askew over the past 21 years? I haven't got 
any definitive recommendations for adjusting the door guide, pin, 
etc., to make this door "foomp."  

I want Factory Fresh FOOMP.

Anybody care to share their procedures?

Thanks, in advance,

-Steve #3302




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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 22:03:41 +0000
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Shipping costs anyone?

Chris I contacted Adrian off list to point him to my "how to" page on importing to the UK

http://www.delorean.co.uk/Importing.html

I would disagree on the cost front - it's no longer true that you get hit by a large tax
bill when importing to the UK - the costs I paid are as follows:

$1250 shipping (including in-land transportation)
5% of purchase price and shipping cost in tax to HM C&E
130 ish in port charges/paperwork etc.
70 registration fee
72 for a new pair of headlights

Martin
#1458

Chris Parnham wrote:

> Adrian,
> We in the UK club have 3 members who have shipped cars in from the USA in
> last 6 months, visit our website and join our club and  newsgroup.
> www.delorean.co.uk.
>
> As a rough guide, depending how you do it etc. I recon you can turn Dollars
> into Pounds ( sterling) by the time its here, running and ready for the
> road, but more of course if it needs a lot of work.
>
> Chris P DOC Hon sec.
>
> --




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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 17:50:04 -0500 (EST)
From: shain_at_dml_elecmods.com
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Low Voltage at Idle

John,

A previous poster suggested that i use a jumper wire to check to see if i had a bad cable.  I have no clue where to jump from or too.  My whole voltage problem was do to a larger pulley then i needed.  Easy fix,a nd now i have plenty of power.

- Shain
#10140

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Shain, I have never done what your doing, this would take some studing out on my part and right now I don't have the time. What are you trying to accomplish.????? Your not going to get around low voltage at idle unless everything is turned off and the pulley is spinning faster to generate voltage and current.
John Hervey
 



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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 23:36:08 -0000
From: "dmc812001" <dmc812001_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Delorean for Sale

Hi All,
I have asked many questions of you all in the past couple of months 
regarding my Delorean, but now i am at a crossroads. I have some 
financial obligations that have put me in a position to think about 
selling my car #2801. I figured i would see if any of you are 
interested, as I do not want to sell this car, but may have to at 
some point. Here are the stats, if interested email me personally.
1981 Delorean 
has most upgrades and runs and looks great. No dings or dents, all 
original except tires. Has AT, factory stereo/cassette, AC/ pwr 
windows(they work), pwr locks(need work), interior is practically 
perfect with no rips or tears. Car now has 21000 original miles and 
is used as a daily driver. Just spent around $5000 on fuel system and 
upgrades to solenoids/fuses,all struts replaced, etc.. I love this 
car and anyone that takes her will too.she has both the guigario side 
stripe as well as the grey/silver DMC racing stripe.If you are 
interested please contact me by email and i we'll take it from there.
Thanks.
Steve T.
#2801




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