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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 975
Date: Saturday, April 06, 2002 11:52 PM

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There are 25 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Re: Re: radiator fan removal & replacement
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

2. Need Some Club Advice
From: "tmpintnl" <tobyp_at_dml_katewwdb.com>

3. Re: Door Black sticker
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

4. Re: interior lights problem
From: "Payne" <bpayne_at_dml_macnet.com>

5. Re: Door Black sticker
From: "Rustproof" <Rustproof_at_dml_prodigy.net>

6. Re: Major interior lights problem and electrical woes...
From: "Adam Price" <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>

7. Re: random comment
From: "Adam Price" <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>

8. Warm up fuel pressure regulator Part #102353
From: ulttgater1_at_dml_aol.com

9. Memphis Name Badge
From: "Murray Fisher" <murrayf_at_dml_hscis.net>

10. Re: Warm up fuel pressure regulator Part #102353
From: "davvet2" <davvet2_at_dml_yahoo.com>

11. Re: Memphis Name Badge
From: Holler <thehauntfactory_at_dml_att.net>

12. Re: Need Some Club Advice
From: Robert Brandys <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com>

13. Re: Rear Window Defroster. (was: random comment)
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>

14. HOT START HELL -- Nothing Works!
From: "Jason Jones" <jason_at_dml_pcupgraders.com>

15. Re: John Delorean and the Fiero??
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>

16. DMC_electrics Yahoo Group created
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

17. Re: Re: Warm up fuel pressure regulator Part #102353
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

18. Fuel Accumulator Installation Proceedure
From: "Jason Jones" <jason_at_dml_pcupgraders.com>

19. DeLorean in New Moby Music Video - "We are All Made of Stars"
From: DesignDayPlanner_at_dml_aol.com

20. CV BOOT change
From: "miami5606" <miami5606_at_dml_yahoo.com>

21. Female needs room for Memphis
From: kkoncelik_at_dml_aol.com

22. Re: Memphis Delorean Show
From: wingd2_at_dml_aol.com

23. Re: interior lights problem
From: "carnut4849" <gmfm1_at_dml_att.net>

24. Re: Door Black Sticker
From: GPD Services H.C. <gpd-servi-hc_at_dml_mailvault.com>

25. Re: random comment
From: "Payne" <bpayne_at_dml_macnet.com>





Message: 1
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 11:14:41 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Re: radiator fan removal & replacement

David,

You are correct when you say that dropping the roll bar may affect front
alignment. On the other hand if the front wheel position is not changed
(turning the steering wheel)during the procedure than the bar should return
to its original position when re-attached to the frame.

Regards,
DMC Joe/Help Club dmchelp_at_dml_att.net
Information & Store http://shopping.oraclesmallbusiness.com/dsvstore
DeLorean Website Directory www.dmc.tv

----- Original Message -----
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 11:44 PM
Subject: [DML] Re: radiator fan removal & replacement


> DMC Joe is corrrect in that you can remove the fans by dropping the
> sway bar by removing the brackets at the frame. This would remove the
> need to remove the radiater. The drawback to this shortcut is the
> possibility of affecting the alignment. I don't know how large the
> possibility is but it is there. IMHO a 20 year old radiater is on
> borrowed time anyway so replacing it is good insurance. Dropping the
> sway bar and getting an alignment is probably OK too since most cars
> never had a good alignment and could use it anyhow. In any case the
> only good cure for noisy fans is replacement or at least rebuilding
> the old ones with new bearings. Even if you could get them quieter
> they will probably draw too much current and now you risk a meltdown
> of your electrical system! The cooling fans are one of the largest
> electrical loads in the entire electrical system of the car. Only the
> starter and the rear defogger are bigger and neither runs as long!
> David Teitelbaum
> 10757
> Still waiting for my recall!!!!!! But my Jeep has just been recalled!
>
>
> --- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Walter Coe" <Whalt_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> > > Removing the front mounts for the roll bar will allow the bar to
> drop away
> > > from the bottom of the fan assembly allowing easy access and
> removal of
> > the
> > > fan and radiator assembly.
> >
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 04:56:00 -0000
From: "tmpintnl" <tobyp_at_dml_katewwdb.com>
Subject: Need Some Club Advice

Hello List - This request may be a little of the beaten path, but we 
need some help up here in the Northwest.  Some of you may have caught 
on that I am an officer with the Pacific Northwest DeLorean Club, 
based in the Seattle area.  As a club, we are struggling with 
attendance at most of our functions, and we just can't figure out 
why.  We offer tech sessions during the year, long drives, brunches, 
picnics, parties, and 3-day weekends at beautiful locations.  We also 
support several large parades, and organized car shows.  The big 
Question - How do we get more people to show up and have fun with 
our "core" group?  Is it just our club, or do others have a similar 
problem?  Last year, we even bought brunch for all who showed up at 
the Embassy Suites for a wonderful Sunday Brunch.  Seven or eight 
cars showed up, out of over a hundred cars in the club!  If anybody 
out there has any experiences with this phenomenon, and has found the 
answers ... please let me know!  It may benefit other clubs who have 
representatives on the List.  Thank you so much for your thoughts and 
ideas.

Toby Peterson  VIN 2248
VP - PNDC
Winged1




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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 23:42:06 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Door Black sticker

Tom,

Good question. I checked all of my files and was not able to locate a part
number. We routinely paint that section of the door with a spray on flat
black finish. Maybe James can shed some light on this mystery part.

Regards,
DMC Joe/Help Club dmchelp_at_dml_att.net
Information & Store http://shopping.oraclesmallbusiness.com/dsvstore
DeLorean Website Directory www.dmc.tv

----- Original Message -----
From: "Watkins Family" <watbmv_at_dml_megalink.net>
To: "DMC News list" <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 11:02 PM
Subject: [DML] Door Black sticker


> I found a site selling the door trim black sticker that is behind the
> door panel but I forgot to bookmark it.  Anyone know what this part
> number is and if it is widely available?
>
> Tom
> #5732
>
> http://www.geocities.com/outatime81





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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 20:50:51 -0800
From: "Payne" <bpayne_at_dml_macnet.com>
Subject: Re: interior lights problem

Boy do I feel stupid.  I've now had my car just over a year and just today I
realized that I have a rear cargo light.  Boy is that nice!  I think I'm
going to go put stuff there just so it can be illuminated.  Just one
quesiton though.  Is it supposed to be linked to the door switch like the
front dome light?  Mine's either off or on regardless of the door position.
payne

> i didn't know i had one until i looked ALL OVER for it when i first got my
> car!!  it's under the rear window, kind of in the parcel shelf.  find the
two
> middle cargo net hooks, then look in the center of them on the underside
of
> the lip.  should have an identical light like the front map light.  when
you
> find it, you'll feel really stupid!
>
> later,
> Andy





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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 00:59:02 -0500
From: "Rustproof" <Rustproof_at_dml_prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Door Black sticker

Those stickers are available at: thelastplaceyoulooked.com

Rustproof
vin #1559

----- Original Message -----
From: "Watkins Family" <watbmv_at_dml_megalink.net>
To: "DMC News list" <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 11:02 PM
Subject: [DML] Door Black sticker


> I found a site selling the door trim black sticker that is behind the
> door panel but I forgot to bookmark it.  Anyone know what this part
> number is and if it is widely available?
>
> Tom
> #5732
>
> http://www.geocities.com/outatime81
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 23:18:11 -0800
From: "Adam Price" <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Major interior lights problem and electrical woes...

All your cars are better than mine on this subject.

When I first got my car all the lights worked fine, then I had a problem 
with the courtesies fuse popping.. Never found out why either..

Then my battery was draining while car was shutdown, discovered that the 
passenger side courtesies switch was actually pushed too far into the side 
of the dash where it attaches so the door lights were constantly on!

So now, even with the courtesies fuse in (it doesnt pop anymore, but i 
usually leave it out) my interior lights dont work and when i flip them to 
turn on, my door ajar light comes on instead..

Also my door lights dont come on anymore for either door...

And just last week I discover that my left front turn signal bulb pops all 
the time. I replace the bulb, it works fine for a day or so, but eventually 
the bulb is blown! I am going to check my 3 big diodes that are related to 
the courtesies.. are these diodes linked to anything else? I assume they 
are, possibly the turn signals??

Crap. Adam. 16683 delorean of doom

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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 23:24:07 -0800
From: "Adam Price" <acprice1_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: random comment

So I have had my delorean for about 7 months now, all through a cold rainy 
winter in Oregon with all sorts of frost building up on car windows and 
such.. After the car warms up a bit, the rear window is instantly 
defrosted/defogged by the engine heat. So why do we even need a rear defrost 
anyway!?! I've never even tried to turn mine on, its unecesary.

Adam


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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 07:37:28 EST
From: ulttgater1_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Warm up fuel pressure regulator Part #102353

I just bought a brand new 102353 pressure regulator/accumulator for $125 
(includes shipping). The part on the DMC website cost $195 (not including 
shipping)and it was a rebuilt part. I used the Bosch part number to the parts 
store and no problem matching. The part arrived in a Volvo original parts 
box. brand new. 
jerry brown 
#5213 



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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 06:20:54 -0800
From: "Murray Fisher" <murrayf_at_dml_hscis.net>
Subject: Memphis Name Badge

Does anyone on the list make or know of a source for making the plastic
engraved name badges?
I know we get a name badge when we get to Memphis, but I would like to make
up a special one similar to my Ham Radio badge.  I fly R/C planes and
helicopters and wanted a badge with the outline of a chopper on it.    At a
local hamfest a couple had a equipment for the usual engraving but also
facilities for taking a drawing or photo and engraving anything you brought
in to them.  I brought in this photo of a chopper and they made up the
engraved version of it with my name and city.  I have a PC board setup 3
inches square,with a circle in the form of a "roulette wheel" with 10 LED's.
This will run for 48 hours on a 9 volt battery.   Anyone any ideas where to
get the same thing done except with a DeLorean Logo?

Murray
Vin: 05962
Lic: DMC-XII


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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 16:10:40 -0000
From: "davvet2" <davvet2_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Warm up fuel pressure regulator Part #102353

Jerry,

What is the Bosch part number ?

Also, where can I find the Bosch part numbers for parts on the car?

I'd like to add them to the database I have that Knut made.

By the way, thanks to Knut for all the work that went into building 
the database.

JC




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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 13:59:40 -0800
From: Holler <thehauntfactory_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Memphis Name Badge

Any local trophy/engraving shop should be able to do this for you.
Oliver
Vin:10694 (time machine)

Murray Fisher wrote:

> Does anyone on the list make or know of a source for making the plastic
> engraved name badges?




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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 13:04:46 -0600
From: Robert Brandys <BobB_at_dml_safety-epa.com>
Subject: Re: Need Some Club Advice

TOBY

We belong to the Camaro, Oldsmobile, Nash, Metropolitan, Delorean and 
 British Car Union clubs.  We have been with some of these clubs for 
almost 15 year and during this time we have tried many things.
All of these clubs have the same problem of getting people to attend 
events. There is ususally a core of people who make it to most things, 
with others at an unpredictable schedule.

One thing we found is that too many events can cause attendance 
problems. Most of these clubs schedule 6 events or less per year.  The 
other thing we do is schedule events in locations where specific people 
are targeted for attendance.

BOB




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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 20:58:03 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: Re: Rear Window Defroster. (was: random comment)

I believe that it was said before that the Rear Defroster was 
installed mainly due to DOT regulations. So hopefully someone can 
clear that one up. But, I can tell you that I have had to use it. If 
the engine is warm, and you have to drive thru flood water, the 
engine compartment will instantly steam up. So then the Rear 
Defroster will definately come in handy! After this, it always clears 
up the rear glass before the quarterpanel glass on the sides.

The Defroster works the same on front engine cars as it does on rear 
engine ones. It's WHEN they get used that makes the difference. Front 
engine cars always have a rubber seal that prevents the steam from 
escaping, and the rear glass has no heat source to quickly fog or 
clear it.

Except for possibly the louvers that may be holding the steam in, 
I've always wondered if MR-2, & Fiero owners have had the same thing 
happen to their cars...

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"



--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Adam Price" <acprice1_at_dml_h...> wrote:
> So I have had my delorean for about 7 months now, all through a 
cold rainy 
> winter in Oregon with all sorts of frost building up on car windows 
and 
> such.. After the car warms up a bit, the rear window is instantly 
> defrosted/defogged by the engine heat. So why do we even need a 
rear defrost 
> anyway!?! I've never even tried to turn mine on, its unecesary.
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> _________________________________________________________________
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 16:14:49 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
From: "Jason Jones" <jason_at_dml_pcupgraders.com>
Subject: HOT START HELL -- Nothing Works!

Hello all thanks for all your great help over these last couple months with
my New DeLorean.  After replacing the Fuel Pump, Fuel Filter, Cleaning the
tank, and now replacing the fuel accumulator my D STILL will not start after
I drive it for > 15min and try to start it again >15min.   The Cold Start
Valve trick does seem to work but I really need a permanent solution.  I am
ALL out of ideas.  Does anyone have a suggestions at this point?



Thanks



Jason 

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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 21:23:54 -0000
From: "therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas_at_dml_lvcm.com>
Subject: Re: John Delorean and the Fiero??

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "Brian McCool" <bjmccool_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> I thought the list might get a kick out of this. I came across an 
old
> article by a Forbes journalist that apparently thought John 
Delorean still
> worked at GM in the early eighties, and even convinced them to make 
the
> Fiero.
> 
> http://biz.yahoo.com/fo/020128/0128flint_1.html

Gotta love rumor journalism! Within the annals or automotive history, 
JZD is always going to be an easliy recognizable name, with a well 
known history with GM. Notably his employment dates! So for a 
reporter (working for Forbes of all people) to write about the auto 
industry, and not even know about John DeLorean's business happenings 
durring the 1980's, or an oil chrisis... I'd have to say that I'm 
slightly less than confident in this reporters business advice and 
findings.

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"




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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 23:16:19 +0100
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: DMC_electrics Yahoo Group created

Hi all

In response to Walt's request below, and the general volume of e-mails I've been
receiving privately about my fan-delay box and general electronic/electrical
issues, I've created a Yahoo Group for those who want to continue the discussion
- and for any future electronic projects (eg my next project is wiring up a
remote starter for my 5-speed, with remote locking, alarm and door launchers,
all off the one keyfob.) Other suggestions have included a new interior light
dimmer. We also have a replacement transmission computer "on the boil"..... so
if you're interested, stop over here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dmc_electrics/

... of course all results will be shared with the DML :-)

Martin
#1458

Walter Coe wrote:

> Hey, can y'all send me carbon copies of your delay box discussion?  I had a
> bunch to say about that before.  For convenience, maybe we should start a
> second discussion group that is unmoderated.  <snip>
>
> Walt




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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 23:26:01 +0100
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Re: Warm up fuel pressure regulator Part #102353

All Bosch parts carry their part numbers on them. You may not be able to read some of
them, and some may have been superceded, but most places will be able to cross-reference
to the new stuff (eg fuel pump).

I don't know how accurate it is, but a good starting point is here:

http://www.dmc12.com/crossref.htm

Martin
#1458

davvet2 wrote:

> Jerry,
>
> What is the Bosch part number ?
>
> Also, where can I find the Bosch part numbers for parts on the car?
>
> I'd like to add them to the database I have that Knut made.
>
> By the way, thanks to Knut for all the work that went into building
> the database.
>
> JC




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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 16:17:45 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
From: "Jason Jones" <jason_at_dml_pcupgraders.com>
Subject: Fuel Accumulator Installation Proceedure



Since I had to replace the Accumulator I documented my work so others have
an idea of what to do.  Feel free to visit  http://jason.kitcarmagazine
com/DeLorean/FuelAccum.htm for a step by step guide and pictures of the
procedure.  Hope this helps someone... now if I can just figure out why mine
still has a hot start problem....





Jason 

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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 17:30:54 EST
From: DesignDayPlanner_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: DeLorean in New Moby Music Video - "We are All Made of Stars"

Good Afternoon Group - 

Being in my mid-thirties I have yet to totally give up MTV although I do 
admit to watching it much less since college.  Ahhhh...College....that is a 
story for another day.

Moby's recently released video for "We are All Made of Stars" contains a 
short segment showing a wide shot zooming-in on a guy seated in a Delorean.  
The drivers side door is open.  I have only seen it once and will pay more 
attention the next time I see it.  This is Moby's first single off of his 
upcoming album titled "18".  Not really a Moby fan, but more so now.

Rich
Formerly #1560
Looking for a D to Start the Dream Again


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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 22:57:05 -0000
From: "miami5606" <miami5606_at_dml_yahoo.com>
Subject: CV BOOT change

Like people have told me it is a snap job to change the boots.
Remove the bolts the hold the shaft on THe shaft will drop right down.
just remove the bearing cover by tapping it out it should just pop 
out.
Remove the lock ring that holds the bearing to the shaft and slide 
right out.
Clean slide the new boots on and repack bearing.
Put your keeper right on and your done cover bolts.
I have a few pics on the misc. file.
The only thing that I did not get is the torque values to the bolts 
on  the shaft.
Is this important.
I also put some anti sieze compound.
Anyone know the torque?

The boots I got from local vender BAP imports for 9.99 each.

Good luck HUgo Vin#2800




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Message: 21
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 20:40:57 EST
From: kkoncelik_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Female needs room for Memphis


OK guys this is for the female portion of the DML
although I am sure you all want to help out LOL

I have a friend in Phoenix area (Female) that wants to come to the show.
She is looking for someone to share a room with and cut her costs.
Also if someone needs a ride partner she may be interested (OK guys you can 
volunteer for this one) depending if she can get the time off of work other 
than that she was going to fly.
Also she needs a driving partner
Yes she's cute

Not the french judge though

Anyone interested please e-mail privately <A HREF="mailto:marre387">marre387</A>


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Message: 22
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 21:29:03 EST
From: wingd2_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Memphis Delorean Show

   I was talking with Ken the other day and he was telling me the events at 
the Memphis Delorean Car Show are filling up fast. He was also telling me 
some pretty interesting facts about the show so far. He said that quite a few 
people who already have hotel reservations have NOT registered for the show 
yet, and on the opposite side, many of the people who are already registered 
for the events do not show up on his hotel listings...... very interesting 
indeed. Having a hotel reservation does NOT automatically guarantee you of 
being able to attend all the show events, only registering for the show gets 
you into the events. Ken has limits which are set by the Memphis Fire 
Marshal, as to the number of people who will be allowed into some of these 
events. If you have a hotel room reserved and are planning on attend the 
show, I'd recommend getting your registration sent in pretty quickly.  

   Only 66 days left to the BIG event !!!!  --- www.deloreancarshow.com ---

   Ken also reminded me that as of May 1st, anyone who registers after that 
time incurs a $5 late fee and also no longer gets a FREE event Tee Shirt 
(worth $8) or a FREE event Delorean Lapel Pin. That amounts to about $15 per 
person.

   This kinda sounds like a commercial for Ken's Memphis Delorean Car Show, 
and I guess that's what it ended up turning into, so great - sign up NOW !!!!!

   Marty

   


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Message: 23
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 02:55:40 -0000
From: "carnut4849" <gmfm1_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: interior lights problem

Hello everyone,
     Both of the interior lights should go on when you open the 
doors. However, you have to set them to go on. The light is a three 
position switch. When it is flat or level it is off. Flip the light 
one way and it goes on and stays on till you flip it back. If you 
flip it the other way from flat, it will go on when you open the 
doors. Try this to see if it will work. If it still doesn't work, it 
seems that there is an electrical problem.
     Also, when the lights work with the door switches, if you get in 
or out and close the door quickly, the lights are supposed to stay on 
for awhile. This is controlled by the white module in the relay 
compartment. Sometimes the capacitor in the module needs to be 
changed to get it to work. I had to do that to mine. By the way, if 
you keep the doors open for a period of time and then close them, the 
lights will probable not stay on. I have heard some owners say that 
they feel that the white module helps to drain the battery.
Good luck,
Gary Masie
 --- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., Soma576_at_dml_a... wrote:
> Hey all,
> 
> I'm having issues with my interior lights.  when i first bought the 
car, the 
> lights didn't work correctly and the rear light was broken.  i 
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Message: 24
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 22:03:16 -0500 (EST)
From: GPD Services H.C. <gpd-servi-hc_at_dml_mailvault.com>
Subject: Re: Door Black Sticker

I got mine from DeLorean Motor Company in Texas, 111494 and 111495 are
the numbers on my invoice, they call it a 'door finisher'. Warren told
me they were newly available.

Justin

--- In dmcnews_at_dml_y..., "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_a...> wrote:
> Tom,
> 
> Good question. I checked all of my files and was not able to locate a
part
> number. We routinely paint that section of the door with a spray on
flat
> black finish. Maybe James can shed some light on this mystery part.
> 
> Regards,
> DMC Joe/Help Club dmchelp_at_dml_a...
> Information & Store http://shopping.oraclesmallbusiness.com/dsvstore
> DeLorean Website Directory www.dmc.tv
> 


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Message: 25
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 19:58:36 -0800
From: "Payne" <bpayne_at_dml_macnet.com>
Subject: Re: random comment

I've noticed the same thing.  Oregon winters have never been a problem for
me.  Even though the rear defroster works fine the engine heat always defogs
it right away.  Oh well. I'm still impressed by the amount of options our
cars had from the factory.  Even though it's now twenty years old, for the
most part it's still quite modern and very comfortable.

payne

> So I have had my delorean for about 7 months now, all through a cold rainy
> winter in Oregon with all sorts of frost building up on car windows and
> such.. After the car warms up a bit, the rear window is instantly
> defrosted/defogged by the engine heat. So why do we even need a rear
defrost
> anyway!?! I've never even tried to turn mine on, its unecesary.
>
> Adam
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