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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 985
Date: Saturday, April 13, 2002 6:29 AM

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There are 15 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. RE: Leather interior question
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_att.net>

2. Re: Leather interior question
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

3. RE: white house/ Deloreans at work
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>

4. Re: Re: Window Track Tricks?
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>

5. Re: Leather interior question
From: "Joseph Molino" <foxmul_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>

6. Re: Search for Delorean Owner
From: Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>

7. Philly DMC?
From: "bmxc" <ben_at_dml_benmaxwell.com>

8. leather interior - binnicle repair
From: "marvin" <marv_at_dml_printeddrinkware.com>

9. Original NCTs for sale - 1721.4 miles on them.
From: "Stragand, Dave" <dave.stragand_at_dml_ketchum.com>

10. Re: Wet Driver Side Floor
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com

11. Spring Social info...
From: "Dan RC30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>

12. Re: leather interior - binnicle repair
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

13. RE: crutchfield delorean
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>

14. Re: Window Track Tricks?
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com

15. Need to buy a tow dolly
From: "Ralph Isenberg" <yugoman50_at_dml_hotmail.com>





Message: 1
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 08:14:09 -0500
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: RE: Leather interior question

Payne,
What was the business name?
Was his techniques franchised.  I'm curious if there would be a local shop
in my area.
Scott Mueller
002981

-----Original Message-----
From: Payne [mailto:bpayne_at_dml_macnet.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 8:02 PM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DML] Leather interior question


I had a hole in the drivers seat and many cracks from age.  A local guy near
me (Oregon) who restores interiors was able to patch the hole, fill the
cracks, and re-dye both seats to ther original color.  Nobody can even tell
there was a hole there and it's as strong as it ever was new.  I'm sure
anyone who does this type of work could dye it any color you like.  He also
claims he can fix the cracks in my instrument binnacle if I can remove it
for him.

payne






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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:16:26 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Leather interior question

You stated:
        "I also plan on getting the dash, binnacle and centre console
re-trimmed in full leather.."

Be aware that the trim items that have a rigid covering like the dash and
binnacle have virtually no clearance for additional covering. In other words
you will discover that when you attempt to re-install these components after
new trim is added the items will not fit in their original position without
trimming the excess materiel. Attempting to trim this materiel may result in
a sloppy apperance.

DMC Joe
Tech Information, DMC Joe Help Club, & Store
http://shopping.oraclesmallbusiness.com/dsvstore
DeLorean Website Directory www.dmc.tv




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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 08:49:16 -0400
From: "Marc A. Levy" <malevy_at_dml_paramanet.com>
Subject: RE: white house/ Deloreans at work

My small building of maybe 250 people has 2 DeLorean owners...


> -----Original Message-----
> From: K Creason [mailto:dmc4687_at_dml_mindspring.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 9:16 PM
> To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [DML] white house/ Deloreans at work
<SNIP>
> 
> What other places host more than one 12? (besides those multi-owners'
> garages)
> 



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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:01:20 -0400
From: "DMC Joe" <dmcjoe_at_dml_att.net>
Subject: Re: Re: Window Track Tricks?

You said:
        "I checked it out myself and ended up elongating the holes that the
guide rail bolts to and repositioned the guide rail."

In 9 out of 10 cases a "running off the track" condition is related to a
miss-aligned motor drive cable. The factory did a great job in the constancy
and accuracy of the guide rail mounting position. Proper alignment of the
motor regulator is the secret to smooth window operation. Yes, you may have
corrected your problem by modifying the mounting holes but I don't recommend
that other owners do this.

The window guide rail mounting holes are elongated from the factory and
leave plenty of room for adjustment. My recommendation to anyone
encountering the "running off the track" problem is do not attempt to adjust
the rail guides unless you are absolutely certain that an adjustment is
necessary.

DMC Joe
Tech Information, DMC Joe Help Club, & Store
http://shopping.oraclesmallbusiness.com/dsvstore
DeLorean Website Directory www.dmc.tv



> Dear Steve,
>      My driver side window popped off the track within the first few
> months back in 83. The dealer said I needed new plastic guides and
> about a $400.00 repair. I checked it out myself and ended up
> elongating the holes that the guide rail bolts to and repositioned
> the guide rail. > Gary Masie



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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 07:05:35 -0400
From: "Joseph Molino" <foxmul_at_dml_bellatlantic.net>
Subject: Re: Leather interior question

I had a huge crack in my dash as well.  I had it reskinned in black leather
and it looks great.  It was in expensive.  I did it because I didn't want to
deal with the headache of dash removal.  It sounds like a huge deal.  I am
sure if I have to get back there someday, I will just replace it with
oem dash but for now it looks awesome.

by the way who was driving on Madison Ave, NJ and then went down Route 287
South  at 7:00 p.m. on Wednesday night.  Anyone on the list?

Joseph Molino
2850

----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Gutkowski" <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
To: <dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 4:58 AM
Subject: Re: [DML] Leather interior question


> Hi Payne
>
> I had a chat with the guy who does interior repairs for my garage, and
> what he told me makes sense. He said he can repair the cracks in the
> dash, but they wouldn't last long. The reason the dash has cracked in
> the first place is that the vinyl has dried out and does not flex with
> the movement of the car as it should. Repairing the cracks by filing
> them in would not get to the root cause.
>
> Some people may remmeber Paul Salsbury has located the original firm
> responsible for trimming the DeLorean interior (and more specifically
> the seats). He negotiated a price for complete leather re-skinning of
> the seats, and it's my top priority in my car. I also plan on getting
> the dash, binnacle and centre console re-trimmed in full leather (being
> black, it's a bit easier). Ironically it works out cheaper than buying
> new parts, and despite the "unoriginality", having the work performed by
> the original suppliers is quite attractive. I also expect it to help the
> awful road noise I get.
>
> Martin
> #1458
>
> Payne wrote:
>
> >I had a hole in the drivers seat and many cracks from age.  A local guy
near
> >me (Oregon) who restores interiors was able to patch the hole, fill the
> >cracks, and re-dye both seats to ther original color.  Nobody can even te
ll
> >there was a hole there and it's as strong as it ever was new.  I'm sure
> >anyone who does this type of work could dye it any color you like.  He
also
> >claims he can fix the cracks in my instrument binnacle if I can remove it
> >for him.
> >
> >payne
> >
>
>
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 11:19:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christian Williams <delorean_at_dml_framezero.com>
Subject: Re: Search for Delorean Owner

Yeah, i'm in the valley. Steve Jobs doesn't own a DeLorean (that I know
of), but I did see him on the highway one day. He had the same look of
amazement that just about everyone has when they see our cars. Maybe even
moreso.

Rendy, I didn't notice your first post. If you've got any questions or
want to get together, just send me an email.

-Christian



> didn't someone on the list say that steve jobs (from apple computers)
> had a delorean? or maybe they just got a compliment from him - i
> can't remember!
>
> illyana
>
>
> >Hi Everyone!
> >
> >Is there any Delorean owner around Silicon Valley, California?
> >I thought it may be a good idea to have this info when help is needed.
> >
> >thanks!
> >
> >rendy cheng
> >



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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 21:12:37 -0000
From: "bmxc" <ben_at_dml_benmaxwell.com>
Subject: Philly DMC?

Friend of mine saw somebody's car on a flatbed this past week on City 
Line Ave. in Philadelphia... 

He thought it was mine... Is there another Philly DMC tooling around 
looking for a home?

-ben
06976




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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 10:28:24 -0400
From: "marvin" <marv_at_dml_printeddrinkware.com>
Subject: leather interior - binnicle repair

I had my  binnicle repaired 2 times by an expert in the upholstery repair business. He has been doing this kind of work for years for used car dealers. . He said that was the first time he failed. The original binnicle, if in the sunlight for many years, will crack and fade. No fill-in product seems to work properly whether silicone or otherwise. I removed mine from the dash (not hard to do) and had an auto upholsterer that specializes in custom car interiors, upholster the binnicle in grey vinyl with the standard DeLorean double row of stitching across the top edge. He put on a thin layer of material to eliminate the cracks from showing through. It looked absolutely great and did not look like a cheap fix. Cost me $75.00.  

Marvin Stein
Printed Drinkware Company
924 Dundas Street
London, Ontario, Canada, N5W 3A1
tel: 519 - 434 - 1666
fax: 519 - 434 - 7071
email: marv_at_dml_printeddrinkware.com
web: printeddrinkware.com


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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 09:57:46 -0400
From: "Stragand, Dave" <dave.stragand_at_dml_ketchum.com>
Subject: Original NCTs for sale - 1721.4 miles on them.

( Please contact Dave off the list regarding the tires.  Moderator )



Hi All,
 
I have two rear and one front NCT off of my car for sale to someone who might need them.  They are in really nice shape, having less than 2000 miles on them, and (important!) they were stored off the car with no air in them, so no flat spots.  They still have nearly full tread on them, and the sidewalls are clean and free from cracks or cuts.  I can ship FedEX ground, which is one of the cheapest I've found for shipping tires -- probably around $10 ea. to the majority of areas in the U.S.   Pics will be available upon request.
 
Make an offer, or offer a trade.  
 
-Dave
VIN #05927
http://www.projectvixen.com
dave.stragand[at]ketchum.com


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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 14:51:24 EDT
From: Delorean17_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Wet Driver Side Floor

Hi,
    Check and make sure the little hood stops that the hood rest on when 
closed have sealant around them.  That was my problem.  If you washed under 
the wheel wells water can also come in where the speedometer cabled enters 
the car.

good luck
David Phelps



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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 11:19:38 -0400
From: "Dan RC30" <Danrc30_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Spring Social info...

I forgot to add that a Back to the Future Pinball machine will be at the Social as well. It will be for sale too, so if you've been looking for one of these, now's your chance!!!

Remember, today (4/12) is the last day for the hotel!!! ;)

---Dan


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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 19:36:37 EDT
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: leather interior - binnicle repair

In a message dated 4/12/02 6:07:04 PM Central Daylight Time, 
marv_at_dml_printeddrinkware.com writes:


> I had my  binnicle repaired 2 times by an expert in the upholstery repair 
> business. He has been doing this kind of work for years for used car 
> dealers. . He said that was the first time he failed. The original 
> binnicle, if in the sunlight for many years, will crack and fade. No 
> fill-in product seems to work properly whether silicone or otherwise. I 
> removed mine from the dash (not hard to do) and had an auto upholsterer 
> that specializes in custom car interiors, upholster the binnicle in grey 
> vinyl with the standard DeLorean double row of stitching across the top 
> edge. He put on a thin layer of material to eliminate the cracks from 
> showing through. It looked absolutely great and did not look like a cheap 
> fix. Cost me $75.00.  


A previous owner to my car had something similar to this done with my 
binnacle as well.  i can feel under the vinyl/leather that the binnacle is 
cracked underneath but the covering perfectly matches my car's black interior 
and looks extremely factory.  it even shines the same way!  it is stitched 
and wrapped in an OEM style. it looks great and i would recommend it to 
anyone!

Andy

Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102


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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 18:47:51 -0400
From: "Kevin Abato" <delorean_at_dml_abato.net>
Subject: RE: crutchfield delorean

Same...I called for info about speakers that I wanted to CUSTOM mount in my
car (Didn't want or need their facts on the car), and when I finally
mentioned that it was for a Delorean, they told me the same thing.  "Oh...we
dont have any information on that car."  My Reply: "Then why was one
pictured in your spring 2001 catalog?"

Response:  "Ughhh....was there really?.  I dunno."



-----Original Message-----
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com [mailto:Soma576_at_dml_aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 9:33 AM
To: dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DML] crutchfield delorean


In a message dated 4/10/02 10:42:24 PM Central Daylight Time,
ionicdesign_at_dml_execpc.com writes:


> a couple of years ago i saw a delorean in a issue of crutchfield audio
> magazine saying
> how nice crutchfiled helped him is this person on the DML? if so nice
> picture.
>
> mark
>

Mark,

i inquired about this when that issue came out and no one stepped forward.
ironicly, i called crutchfield once asking about speaker recommendations and
when i said it was for a DeLorean, they told me they have no information for
that vehicle and that means they will not help AT ALL.  they were very rude.

andy

Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102


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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 18:06:15 EDT
From: jwit6_at_dml_cs.com
Subject: Re: Window Track Tricks?

In a message dated 4/10/02 10:59:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
stevepeck1_at_dml_yahoo.com writes:

<< While fiddling with my child-of-Satan window motors and before 
 getting things back in place, I discovered that the front bottom edge 
 of the white plastic window track was off the track.  After lots of 
 tiwsting and a little bleeding, I got things back on track.
 
 But after assembling everything, it popped off again.  this time, 
 totally off the track.
 
 Is there any fix/trick to this?
  >>
I think that after  many years the plastic window track brackets begin to 
physically warp and distort so that keeping them on the track becomes a real 
challenge since they're not really shaped the way they need to be in order to 
function properly. I actually had to bend and reposition the metal bracketry 
supporting the plastic track bracket to get my windows to stay on track and 
work reliably...
Jim



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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 00:55:55 -0400
From: "Ralph Isenberg" <yugoman50_at_dml_hotmail.com>
Subject: Need to buy a tow dolly



A friend is coming from Wisconsin to North Carolina in a few weeks and is 
looking to buy a tow dolly anywhere between these two points. Can anyone 
help?

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