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Subject: [DML] Digest Number 1327
Date: Thursday, January 02, 2003 4:01 AM

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There are 12 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. JZD Address
From: "Dave Swingle <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>

2. Spring Event: Delorean Midatlantic Door Adjustment Social
From: "David Teitelbaum <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>

3. Re: biggest speaker possible in rear speaker holes
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com

4. Re: Dakota Dash
From: "content22207 <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>

5. Florida
From: "geek321y <tecno_at_dml_mpinet.net>" <tecno_at_dml_mpinet.net>

6. Re: biggest speaker possible in rear speaker holes -- VERY LONG!!!
From: kayoong_at_dml_aol.com

7. What a weird coincidence
From: "supremeadmiralsenn <StadnickAd_at_dml_usa.irene.net>" <StadnickAd_at_dml_usa.irene.net>

8. Re: biggest speaker possible in rear speaker holes
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>

9. Re: Florida
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

10. Re: biggest speaker possible in rear speaker holes
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com

11. Re: Re: Re: Alternator-wiring
From: Jan van de Wouw <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>

12. Steering rack replacement
From: "ksgrimsr <knut.s.grimsrud_at_dml_intel.com>" <knut.s.grimsrud_at_dml_intel.com>





Message: 1
Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 15:32:38 -0000
From: "Dave Swingle <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>" <dswingle_at_dml_enteract.com>
Subject: JZD Address

As usally happens this time of year, this topic is coming up again. 
The DML will not post JZD's address (any more than we'd post any of 
YOURS) without his permission. At this time we have neither his 
address nor permission. If we get both we'll let you know. 

Dave S




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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 00:32:05 -0000
From: "David Teitelbaum <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>" <jtrealty_at_dml_webspan.net>
Subject: Spring Event: Delorean Midatlantic Door Adjustment Social


For all Delorean owners in the Northeast the Delorean Midatlantic 
Group is holding their annual Door Adjustment Social and Spring Tour. 
Set aside April 26-27 2003 as we are planning it to be a 2 day event. 
The first day will consist mainly of a Tech Session with Rob Grady of 
P. J. Grady inspecting cars and pointing things out to owners. For all 
members (including new ones that sign up at the event) there is the 
FREE door torsion bar adjustment (if required) and whatever else can 
be done time and parts permitting. Saturday evening will be a guest 
speaker on the history of the Delorean (someone who was intimitly 
involved but never before in front of the public). Sunday will be a 
road tour ending at a major shopping venue for the ladies. If anyone 
has any suggestions or ideas on how to improve this event please 
contact me. Also if anyone wants to volunteer to help with any portion 
of the event it would be appreciated. More details will follow in the 
comming months, just set the date aside and hope for good weather!
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757
Delorean Midatlantic Technical Editor and now in charge of the Spring 
Social!




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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 20:13:42 EST
From: Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: biggest speaker possible in rear speaker holes

List,

so if it is possible to have both my pods and my dash speakers hooked up, how 
would i do that?  of course i would need a bass-blocker to keep the low end 
out of the dash speakers, but how would i wire it so that my head unit can 
handle running four speakers on the fronts instead of two?  i am not 
knowledgable in playing with ohm loads and such - i would assume i need to 
drop the load so the two speakers are running at 2ohms each if i am running 
4ohm on just the kicks?  i believe the dash speakers are 4ohm also.

how do i wire this to make it work?

Andy

Soma576_at_dml_aol.com
1982 DeLorean DMC-12 VIN#11596
Fargo, ND 58102


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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 07:42:23 -0000
From: "content22207 <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>" <brobertson_at_dml_carolina.net>
Subject: Re: Dakota Dash

Contact Louie G (louie AT delorean.com). Not only could he shoot you
some pics, but describe the pros & cons as well. Not long ago he was
willing to give his digital dash to anyone who would do labor to swap
their analog gauges.

Bill Robertson
#5939

>--- In dmcnews_at_dml_yahoogroups.com, AJL521_at_dml_a... wrote:
> Does anyone on the list have any pics of a Dakota Digital dash.  I was 
> thinking that it would be a nice addition, but I wanted to see it first.
> 
> Thanks
> Andrew
> 4194




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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 08:15:43 -0000
From: "geek321y <tecno_at_dml_mpinet.net>" <tecno_at_dml_mpinet.net>
Subject: Florida

Looking for people in the FL area with DMC and do they know any body 
that services them in florida..

Tecno(AT)mpinet.net




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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 08:46:56 EST
From: kayoong_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: biggest speaker possible in rear speaker holes -- VERY LONG!!!

[MODERATOR NOTE: This is an extremely long post. With Kayo's permission I moved it to the tech archive of the www.dmcnews.com web page. Direct link is at the bottom of this post.]

------

I was hesitant about posting my experiences and my findings on this "thread."

Several months ago I post a thread asking if anyone had any experience with 
McIntosh or Sinfoni amplifiers in a DeLorean.  In short, there were only two 
DeLorean owners who had responded.  One person has asked me to post my "info" 
regardless, as to share info.  In short I did purchased the Sinfoni 120.4x 
amp and I love it against many amps I had or heard and I have heard many 
sound systems.... McIntosh amps are no slouch or losers and both of these 
company's amps are not cheap and they are the best amongst others amps in the 
industry. 

www.sinfoni.com 
www.mcintoshlabs.com    
www.ampman.com/products/details.asp?id=8

Anyway, I hope I can add some insights on this subject of "sound 
reproduction" for it can be very subjective with controversy.

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Continued at:

http://www.dmcnews.com/Techsection/audio_kayo.html



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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 17:21:39 -0000
From: "supremeadmiralsenn <StadnickAd_at_dml_usa.irene.net>" <StadnickAd_at_dml_usa.irene.net>
Subject: What a weird coincidence

I was in Books-A-Million the other day looking for a book about 
DeLoreans. I told the salesgirl that it might have 'John DeLorean' in 
the title.  Immediately some old lady walks up to me and says she 
used to live by him when helived in NJ! How weird is that?!




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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 17:44:54 +0000
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster_at_dml_delorean.co.uk>
Subject: Re: biggest speaker possible in rear speaker holes

Get speakers with the same impedance otherwise the power delivered will be uneven in
favour of the speaker with the lowest impedance. It's also easier to work out the
impedance "seen" by the head unit. If you have two 8 ohm cones wired in parallel, the
head unit will "see" 4 ohms. The actual calculation is:

(A x B) / (A + B)

You wire them to the same terminals on the head unit.

This is getting a bit non-delorean, so mail me direct if you need any more help

Martin
#1458
#4426

Soma576_at_dml_aol.com wrote:

> List,
>
> so if it is possible to have both my pods and my dash speakers hooked up, how
> would i do that?  of course i would need a bass-blocker to keep the low end
> out of the dash speakers, but how would i wire it so that my head unit can
> handle running four speakers on the fronts instead of two?




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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 14:39:20 EST
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: Florida

Florida is a big state. Where are you. I know people all over Florida.
John Hervey
www.specialTauto.com


<< Looking for people in the FL area with DMC and do they know any body 
 that services them in florida..
 
 Tecno(AT)mpinet.net
 
  >>



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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2003 14:44:29 EST
From: dherv10_at_dml_aol.com
Subject: Re: biggest speaker possible in rear speaker holes

Andy, There is a difference in 4 ohms resistance and 4 ohms impedance that 
speakers run on. If the total ohms of impedance doesn't match the output 
impedance  of the unit your installing, it will sound bad. You can't really 
measure impedance with an ohm meter. You just have to hook it up the way the 
manufacture says to match.
John Hervey
www.specialTauto.com



<< so if it is possible to have both my pods and my dash speakers hooked up, 
how 
 would i do that?  of course i would need a bass-blocker to keep the low end 
 out of the dash speakers, but how would i wire it so that my head unit can 
 handle running four speakers on the fronts instead of two?  i am not 
 knowledgable in playing with ohm loads and such - i would assume i need to 
 drop the load so the two speakers are running at 2ohms each if i am running 
 4ohm on just the kicks?  i believe the dash speakers are 4ohm also.
  >>



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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 01:15:22 +0100
From: Jan van de Wouw <jvdwouw_at_dml_home.nl>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Alternator-wiring

On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 22:28:10 EST, John Hervey <dherv10_at_dml_aol.com> wrote:

> The brown / yellow wire (Light wire) is energized via the main relay
> when the key is turned on and the battery light lights. If it's working.
> Then when the alternator starts turning it sends and opposing voltage
> back to the light and turns it off.

I guess this is the same effect as with the modification for the side
marker lights to double as both SML and indicators...

> If the battery light bulb doesn't come when you turn the key on, then
> there is something wrong in the wiring or the regulator isn't grounded
> properly for the light wire use.The bulb # ( 161 )  has the proper
> resistance and acts like a ballast resistor to keep from burning up
> the regulator. Hooking a straight brown wire or straight voltage up
> to the regulator will render it useless in about 30 seconds or less.

Now I'm totally confused; doe you use the SENSE or LIGHT terminal on the
alternator? I.e. hooking up the light (from the car) to the SENSE terminal?
The light does light when the ignition is turned on and goes off when the
engine is running.

The car we are talking about had the alternator replaced by some shop
and it all worked fine up untill a couple aof days ago. Then the car
didn't charge anymore and got stranded. Some one from "Wegenwacht",
the Dutch equivalent for the "AAA" tracked the problem down to lack
of input on the SENSE-port of the Alternator and put in a temporary
wire from the starterpost to the SENSE-terminal...

Could it be that the alternator has some sort of ballast resistor inside
the regulator? I still don't understand why there even IS a sense-wire,
since it connects to the output of the alternator anyway...

>> At Idle without any accessories running we got 13.4V at the starter-post,
[snip]
> 13.4 long shot could have been battery voltage or a damaged regulator
> trying to hold on. You have to have RPM's to maintain the voltage.
> There is very little to no current till the alternator reaches about
> 1500 RPM on the rpm gauge.

I guess that's OK then; I just remembered that this car idles
at about 2000 RPM as it is awaiting a new Idlespeed ECU.

> Replace the bulb and check connections

The bulb is OK; it DOES light AND goes off at the right moment...

>> without the sense-wire there's no charging either!
>> But I'd hate to burn up the regulator; should I put
>> in a resistor of some sort?

I just checked the wiring schematic for my Nissan 100NX;
it has the Sense-wire going DIRECTLY to the output,
not even switched by a relay. While I was doing this I
went along and checked the schematic I had lying around
from my previous Ford Escort; same hookup...

I think I'll go check what car the alternator was originally
built for and/or what type of regulator it has and/or how it
should be connected in it's original application...
Maybe there's a resitor allready inside?

Your input really IS appreciated,
all the best for 2003,

JAN van de Wouw
Thinking Different...   Using a Mac...
Living the Dream...   Driving a DeLorean...

#05141 "Dagger" since Sept. 2000

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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 00:09:36 -0000
From: "ksgrimsr <knut.s.grimsrud_at_dml_intel.com>" <knut.s.grimsrud_at_dml_intel.com>
Subject: Steering rack replacement

I had a chance to replace my steering rack over the holidays and I 
thought I would share my experience with you in the event some of you 
are considering the same procedure.

In my case, my steering had gotten a bit sloppy due to excessive 
backlash in the steering rack plus the lower ball joints being shot. 
I'll only talk about the steering rack replacement here and save the 
fun with the lower ball joints for another time. The effect of the 
steering rack being shot was that the car tended to follow ruts in 
the road and there was a little bit of play in the wheel. The overall 
experience was that the steering was not very precise and generally 
seemed sloppy.

I purchased a reconditioned steering rack from DMC (Houston). When it 
arrived, I was surprised at how well the unit was packed. It arrived 
in a sturdy wooden crate with foam inserts keeping the rack snugly in 
place. The reconditioned rack consisted of the rack itself plus new 
tie-rod ends. I was pleased to see that the tie-rod ends included the 
newer style flexible black rubber grease boots -- the older style 
beige plastic grease boots all seem to have brittled such that they 
tend to split as soon as they are tightened to the steering knuckle.

Replacement took a little over an hour plus a trip to the alignment 
shop. 

Details on the process are on the DMCNews website at

http://www.dmcnews.com/Techsection/steeringrack.html

After I was done my car again has the kind of precision steering that 
contributes so much to the overall handling/feeling of the drive.

Happy driving.

		Knut





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